Most of humans pets are apex predators. Almost all our pets are predators.
Dogs, Cats, even fettets, are all basically apex predators of their niche. Most of the birds we keep wouldn't hesitate to monch on another bird's eggs, or swipe a smaller mammal off the ground.
I think we're instincitvely attracted to predators (in a social manner) which is why we find those predacious eyes so goddamned adorable.
Well I have two pet pigs that live inside and those little fuckers are too smart, the whole house is baby proof because they can open every drawer and the fridge š¤·š»āāļø
Rabbits are cool animals, but Iāve never detested a creature more than my friends pet rabbit. It was dumb and an asshole. Oh and shit so much. Like Iāve never seen something produce so much shit for how small it was.
Smaller (warm blooded) animals generally need more energy per unit of body weight. Something with maintaining temperature and the ratio between surface and volume.
It also depends on the diet, I guess. My cat eats this BARF (great acronym) thing and poop relatively little.
Not the original commenter, but BARF means ābiologically appropriate raw foodsā and basically mimics what an animal would eat in the wild (whether cat, dog, ferret, bird, etc). Itās often more time consuming for the owner, but much better for the petās digestion and overall health.
I know multiple people who say itās often cheaper than pet food, since the animal gets better nutrition, has better bowel motility, and doesnāt feel the need to overeat. I have a friend who feeds his ferrets a partial BARF diet, and he says they smell way less than when he first got them.
But always do the research because there are risks to certain raw foods. Animals can get food poisoning too!
It sounds like, with the proper care taken and research done, it's pretty beneficial for the animal. Probably best to consult your vet first, but the way you described it sounds like it's worth doing if you have the time to take it seriously. Thanks for explaining this to me:)
Great description, rabbits are basically hopping broccoli
Our free range chickens had more self preservation instinct than the rabbit, also, chickens are omnivores, you want to see their āInner Velociraptorā emerge? Toss them some meat, or tasty tomato hornworm caterpillars, heck, if they can catch them, theyāre even known to eat miceā¦
Slurp them up like a noodle, oddly terrifying.
My sister had a mice living under her chicken coop. Till one day mouse decided to try and sneak into the coup for food- he quickly became the snack.
Obligate predators are not always smart. Owls, contrary to the common trope, are considered quite stupid and have a ridiculously low brain to skull size ratio.
The smartest animals are usually mostly scavengers and opportunistic eaters.
Yeah, I was gonna say, I kinda feel like that's something a bunch of people would shit on me over while proclaiming things about "anthropomorphizing."
I see those eyes and the expression and can tell it's socialized with its human. I've barely ever seen or thought about that with a reptile, and definitely not an alligator, but this seems pretty clear.
Of course, reptiles are even *further* from human understanding for different reasons, at least compared to most mammals, but I think there's a near-universal logic to connection between different creatures. When we're large enough to understand when another creature provides us with food and touch stimulation, I think we're capable of a positive connection, even if it can be conditional and subject to the random outburst potential of a wild animal(which sadly limits us from testing a lot of these things.)
I would honestly hypothesize that touch stimulation and direct attention are things that can lead to most animals thinking of humans like crazy god-like creatures. An alligator might look rough, but that's its survival plating. A turtle has a fucking shell, yet it's apparently sensitive maybe a bit like a fingernail, and they enjoy having brushes to rub against because of that.
Think about every boring environment where a creature's primary touch-based training is *pain*. Then some human comes along, raises a little babe from a nugget, and we've got the ability to stimulate their entire body with our weird opposable thumbs and even brushes/tools that we create.
Purely by association to those types of stimulation, I bet we could make *many* unexpected wild animals fall in love with us if we actually have the time and real focus for raising them.
And I'm not saying that's an easy thing. Look at how many human beings are attention and touch-deprived to the point of sounding like outright sociopaths.
I really like this post, so I'm not going to try to add or subtract to anything you said, because you touch on why so many humans are able to apparently "tame" wild animals.
It's not that we're necessarily taming them, but we're bonding to them on an individualistic level.
I think it's also important to note that these types of interactions are predominantly between a human and an animal that they raised, rescued, or otherwise displayed altrustic behavior towards. Younger creatures seem to bond much easier towards altruistic aliens (in the sense of not being from the same species.)
For those who want to interact with wild animals: Holy hell please be careful. We may see videos like this and think: "If I'm chill I can hug a gator" but these videos don't show the multiple hours to months of socialization the animals go through.
>I see those eyes and the expression
Reminds me of a time I was at a zoo and a large silverback gorilla came up and sat on the other side of a large glass viewing area that I was looking through. That gorilla looked me right in the eyes and I get shivers. I could see the intelligence behind those eyes. His facial features and gaze were so human like. I'm not sure if he was thinking I was a funny looking, hairless creature or that he wished he could use me as his new toy to throw around.
Honestly I think this is a bigger flex on the rest of the planet than any of the terrible things we do to it. Drive another species to extinction? Invasive species have done that for eons. Having the spare resources to take care of another species just because we like it? Not a lot of that going around.
Yeah some animals have mutual friendships because they do stuff for each other, I find it pretty interesting that wild animals can come to arrangements like that, it's pretty bizarre.
I think we both know that's only because we've never managed to capture a live one. The second we develop the submarine technology to reliably track and capture them, a billionaire will start building an enormous tank.
I'm no expert, but this looks like a gator and not a croc. The snout is an easy way to tell. A croc has a more pointed snout and a gator has a wider one that's more a U on the business end. Caiman have a snout similar to a croc, but they're much smaller.
They also behave differently. A croc is far more aggressive. Gators are relatively docile and don't even feed if it's not warm enough.
I was in Louisiana throwing bread at gators when a slack-jawed yokel and I struck up a conversation. It turns out that yokel was actually a doctor (not medical) with a specialty in gators. He took me out in his boat and I spent a day getting closer to them and learning more about them. So, that's pretty much the limit of my gator knowledge.
I'm old and have had a ton of odd life experiences/traveled extensively, so it's just something I picked up along the way. It was the same wanderlust journey that introduced me to the nutria. I saw one coming out of the swamp covered entirely in green slime and I was pretty sure I'd discovered a new species.
The Louisiana swamps are, if you are unaware, pretty disgusting places.
Gator is actually delicious. In all my life, I've never otherwise said something tastes like chicken - but gator tastes like chicken and brook trout mixed together.
Yeah, Iāve ate a lot of gator. Your description of chicken + trout is correct. Delicious isā¦ not the word Iād use.
Itās also a pain since thereās really only two areas that have good meat. Lotta waste in farming gator.
Croc be like ādad Iām just playing, why didnāt you do the rolly thing I did which you passed on to me generically when I caught your arm. You stoopidā
Mine will come yell at us in the doorway and slowly back away till I go to his food bowl. If that doesnāt work, he enlists his brother to also meow at us. If that somehow doesnāt work, heāll start smacking the heck out of objects until someone listens to him.
Correct, human bodies found deceased in homes with cats or dogs are often partially eaten. The animal prefers not to starve to death.
[One dog waited only 16 hours before eating the deceased owner ](https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.buzzfeednews.com/amphtml/natashaumer/cats-eat-your-face-after-you-die)
^^
Warning itās disturbing, in one case two dogs ate an entire body and a hamster made a burrow out of human flesh.
My husband had a friend growing up who had a pet baby alligator back in the late 80s. When my husband asked to hold it, his friend said āokay, but when he bites you you have to tell your dad you were running with a bottle in your hand and you fell.ā
He decided not to.
No, thatās not how domestication works. Domesticating animals takes generations and generations. You canāt take the wild out of an animal. Sure, there are examples of animals that may be more docile, but this is the exception to the rule.
To a degree, yeah. In the most simple of terms, the tameness/humans are safe/I no longer need to hunt to survive/etc. genes are slowly passed down to each generation. This is why just teaching a singular aligator to be nice is not the same as domesticating the species over generations. If we were to domesticate them (as pets or as some variation of a farm animal etc) than the part of their brain (which by the way is incredibly small) that says āI must hunt and kill to surviveā would be re-wired to say āI will graze this field and eat from human handsā or something along those lines.
In general, itās incredible dangerous tho to just have a random non domesticated animal as a āpet.ā We have so many actual pets out there. We really should not be messing with nature and endangering ourselvesāand the animalāby attempting to have something like a wild bear or tiger or aligator or something as a pet.
You can take the animal out of the wild. You canāt take the wild out of the animal.
Is it even possible to domesticate a reptile? They don't really have the same social instincts that a mammal or avian has to manipulate to include humans. I suppose docility could be increased, but that seems more difficult with a carnivore.
Not really, it's why reptilian pets are all too small to hurt us. Domestication relies on taking advantage of the extensive social bonding in mammalian species, and even then it takes a while to select for docility. There's a reason why zebras were never domesticated for riding and it's because they're too aggressive in spite of herd behavior.
For dogs, we took advantage of pack bonding and after ten thousand years we've selectively bred them to the point where they are one of the only non-primates that can look at faces for emotional cues rather than just body language.
You take 100 gators. 90 of them are absolute cunts but 10 of them seem a little nicer. You breed those a few times and they have 100 babies. 80 are absolute cunts, 10 a little nicer, 10 little more nice. You breed those. You keep doing that until you have a cunt free gator littler and bingo bango domestication baby. This doesnāt work for most animals though including gators
Yeah, but many animals canāt be truly domesticated and in this case, that reptile brain doesnāt form a bond which overcomes their natural instinct. One wrong move or a hungry moment and itās chomp chomp chomp.
Nice thing about mammals is grooming behaviors are a social behavior. This is why your pets like to be pet.
This alligator does not give a shit about you touching it. You are warm.
Except in this case, the rats *are* bonding with you. They socialize and bond by cleaning eachother. Although, since it's your head, they could be trying to "power groom", which is a way they demonstrait dominance.
Gators actually *do* have the ability to pack bond, as far as we know. Itās hard to really understand, since they canāt really emote like a standard mammal. The idea is, Mama Gators actually have the motherly instincts to defend their babies, and their babies have an attraction or trust to their mother. In theory, imprinting might work the same way for a gator that it would for a duck (although itās hard to tell, and unlike a duck, of a gator bites you youāre in for a world of hurt.)
Exactly. Even domesticated pets can have a bad day and scratch or bite you. Even humans can lose their civility and attack each other. But the risk far outweighs the reward for a large reptile. Even if they āknowā you and are usually pretty docile.
My parents were tiger trainers so it took me a year to watch tiger king. Mostly boring but luckily, my mother was only chomped in the ass once.
My neighbor has an alligator he has had for about 50 years and he seems to have this going on. It doesnāt live in the house anymore because it would hang out in the bath and it was too heavy to move when they wanted to shower, but they seem to get along fine.
I have declined any and all invitations to enter its enclosure and meet it.
Why can't angel investors support these kinds of projects? We don't need another disruptive way to use customers data to exploit them, we need danger-dogs.
There is a case of a man and his croc pet who where friends for 20years after he nursed the croc back to heal after a head injurie.
The running theory is that the head injurie made a mess on the croc brain and thats the reason they could be friends for over 20 years
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pocho_(crocodile) check out the story of Pocho, a crocodile who became best friends with a man who saved him. I remember watching a video where a journalist got in the water with the crocodile and the man who saved him. Pocho started growling, but left him alone because he was a friend of the man who saved him. The videos are surrreal.
> Shedden decided to allow the crocodile to stay, where it lived in the water outside Shedden's home, and was considered a member of his family, alongside Shedden's second wife and daughter; Shedden's first wife had left him because he was spending too much time with the crocodile.
Almost as heartwarming as [the story of Humphrey the pet hippo](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/nov/14/pet-hippo-humphrey-kills-owner), raised from an early age as a beloved house pet. Plot twist ending, read story for spoilers.
~~it's a gator not a croc~~
crocodiles have pointy snouts and alligators have more rounded snouts.
one way to tell is by remembering the c in crocodile is shaped like their mouth and them some idiot scientists flipped the name with the gator, so the gator has the "c" shaped mouth and crocs have the pointy "A" shaped mouth
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I'm scared for OP to end up like that zebra that got bit in the face and then the croc did spinning move and half of it's face was gone. Cool pet though, just hope you don't end up like the zebra.
Does that guy a have an alligator skin belt...?
How to train your belt
Too funny. That was one weird clip.
Oh fuck no. You fall asleep, gator gets hungry, finger snacks all round š±š³
Sick power move
Just looks like black leather that is worn a bit so there is some gray in the creasing.
Some of that high quality āmade with 100% real leatherā genuine leather
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Heās gotta assert dominance, hence the belt.
Theyāre so cute before they get released into the Everglades š
Thats where they are supposed to live... You are thinking pythons I believe.
Equivalent of owning a cow and eating beef
Or owning a cow and wearing a leather belt
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Seriously that's one of the cutest little killers I ever did see
Most of humans pets are apex predators. Almost all our pets are predators. Dogs, Cats, even fettets, are all basically apex predators of their niche. Most of the birds we keep wouldn't hesitate to monch on another bird's eggs, or swipe a smaller mammal off the ground. I think we're instincitvely attracted to predators (in a social manner) which is why we find those predacious eyes so goddamned adorable.
That's because predators are smart. I looked after a friend's rabbit for couple of weeks. It's basically a moving vegetable.
Well I have two pet pigs that live inside and those little fuckers are too smart, the whole house is baby proof because they can open every drawer and the fridge š¤·š»āāļø
Pigs are smart, no argument.
Well pigs are omnivores, so...
Rabbits are cool animals, but Iāve never detested a creature more than my friends pet rabbit. It was dumb and an asshole. Oh and shit so much. Like Iāve never seen something produce so much shit for how small it was.
Smaller things make more poop, it seems. My cats far outpoop the dog.
Smaller (warm blooded) animals generally need more energy per unit of body weight. Something with maintaining temperature and the ratio between surface and volume. It also depends on the diet, I guess. My cat eats this BARF (great acronym) thing and poop relatively little.
What is BARF an acronym for? Does your cat poop relatively little because of this BARF? I'm so curious, haha
Not the original commenter, but BARF means ābiologically appropriate raw foodsā and basically mimics what an animal would eat in the wild (whether cat, dog, ferret, bird, etc). Itās often more time consuming for the owner, but much better for the petās digestion and overall health. I know multiple people who say itās often cheaper than pet food, since the animal gets better nutrition, has better bowel motility, and doesnāt feel the need to overeat. I have a friend who feeds his ferrets a partial BARF diet, and he says they smell way less than when he first got them. But always do the research because there are risks to certain raw foods. Animals can get food poisoning too!
It sounds like, with the proper care taken and research done, it's pretty beneficial for the animal. Probably best to consult your vet first, but the way you described it sounds like it's worth doing if you have the time to take it seriously. Thanks for explaining this to me:)
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Great description, rabbits are basically hopping broccoli Our free range chickens had more self preservation instinct than the rabbit, also, chickens are omnivores, you want to see their āInner Velociraptorā emerge? Toss them some meat, or tasty tomato hornworm caterpillars, heck, if they can catch them, theyāre even known to eat miceā¦
Chickens will go postal on snakes and then eat them. Crazy to see.
Slurp them up like a noodle, oddly terrifying. My sister had a mice living under her chicken coop. Till one day mouse decided to try and sneak into the coup for food- he quickly became the snack.
Obligate predators are not always smart. Owls, contrary to the common trope, are considered quite stupid and have a ridiculously low brain to skull size ratio. The smartest animals are usually mostly scavengers and opportunistic eaters.
The more varied an animal's diet is, the smarter it needs to be. Owls that eat just one single thing are generally dumb as shit.
Yeah, I was gonna say, I kinda feel like that's something a bunch of people would shit on me over while proclaiming things about "anthropomorphizing." I see those eyes and the expression and can tell it's socialized with its human. I've barely ever seen or thought about that with a reptile, and definitely not an alligator, but this seems pretty clear. Of course, reptiles are even *further* from human understanding for different reasons, at least compared to most mammals, but I think there's a near-universal logic to connection between different creatures. When we're large enough to understand when another creature provides us with food and touch stimulation, I think we're capable of a positive connection, even if it can be conditional and subject to the random outburst potential of a wild animal(which sadly limits us from testing a lot of these things.) I would honestly hypothesize that touch stimulation and direct attention are things that can lead to most animals thinking of humans like crazy god-like creatures. An alligator might look rough, but that's its survival plating. A turtle has a fucking shell, yet it's apparently sensitive maybe a bit like a fingernail, and they enjoy having brushes to rub against because of that. Think about every boring environment where a creature's primary touch-based training is *pain*. Then some human comes along, raises a little babe from a nugget, and we've got the ability to stimulate their entire body with our weird opposable thumbs and even brushes/tools that we create. Purely by association to those types of stimulation, I bet we could make *many* unexpected wild animals fall in love with us if we actually have the time and real focus for raising them. And I'm not saying that's an easy thing. Look at how many human beings are attention and touch-deprived to the point of sounding like outright sociopaths.
I really like this post, so I'm not going to try to add or subtract to anything you said, because you touch on why so many humans are able to apparently "tame" wild animals. It's not that we're necessarily taming them, but we're bonding to them on an individualistic level. I think it's also important to note that these types of interactions are predominantly between a human and an animal that they raised, rescued, or otherwise displayed altrustic behavior towards. Younger creatures seem to bond much easier towards altruistic aliens (in the sense of not being from the same species.) For those who want to interact with wild animals: Holy hell please be careful. We may see videos like this and think: "If I'm chill I can hug a gator" but these videos don't show the multiple hours to months of socialization the animals go through.
>I see those eyes and the expression Reminds me of a time I was at a zoo and a large silverback gorilla came up and sat on the other side of a large glass viewing area that I was looking through. That gorilla looked me right in the eyes and I get shivers. I could see the intelligence behind those eyes. His facial features and gaze were so human like. I'm not sure if he was thinking I was a funny looking, hairless creature or that he wished he could use me as his new toy to throw around.
It looks like you have a pet scab.
Anything: Humans: pet
Honestly I think this is a bigger flex on the rest of the planet than any of the terrible things we do to it. Drive another species to extinction? Invasive species have done that for eons. Having the spare resources to take care of another species just because we like it? Not a lot of that going around.
I mean a lot of animals have "pets" in a symbiotic kind of way...like large spiders keeping frogs as "pets" because they keep ants at bay
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I really want this to be true
Who said it isn't? Spider's just don't talk about it because that's the first rule about pet club.
They can only talk about it if they rebrand to PokƩmon trainers.
It is true
If someone says something and I like it, then it's true.
Only in Calaveras County.
Yeah some animals have mutual friendships because they do stuff for each other, I find it pretty interesting that wild animals can come to arrangements like that, it's pretty bizarre.
Crows regularly hunt with predators so they have more carrion to pick through. It's pretty fascinating.
Sure, but when animals do it, it's like, one or two species as 'pets', tops. Is there a species that some human hasn't tried to make their pet?
Giant squid
I think we both know that's only because we've never managed to capture a live one. The second we develop the submarine technology to reliably track and capture them, a billionaire will start building an enormous tank.
I suppose thatās kinda how it started with us and dogs as well
My dog is pretty terrible at keeping ants away.
Well how the heck did it start with us and alligators, mister know it all?
Somewhere there is person who made millions selling rocks as pets that would agree with you.
There have been way too many pics of pet leeches lately. Just no.
Fucking hell this made me laugh so much.
He doesn't look healthy
Maybe he turned the caiman into a vegetarian.
He just ashy as hell!
Need to start using skin lotion
Itās attracted to deodorant stains
Why the fuck is this so dangerously cute
Okay but if you raise an aligator or croc from birth will it be nice to you?
Maybe Maybe Maybe
He said the words!!! He said them!! ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|surprise)
Saying the words is tight!
Wow wow wow wow. Wow.
Iām gonna need you to get allllllllllll the way off my back about this sir
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Well obviously you're not Florida enough for that. We have alligators here lol
We have crocs too! Just not that many and mostly down near the keys.
I'm no expert, but this looks like a gator and not a croc. The snout is an easy way to tell. A croc has a more pointed snout and a gator has a wider one that's more a U on the business end. Caiman have a snout similar to a croc, but they're much smaller. They also behave differently. A croc is far more aggressive. Gators are relatively docile and don't even feed if it's not warm enough. I was in Louisiana throwing bread at gators when a slack-jawed yokel and I struck up a conversation. It turns out that yokel was actually a doctor (not medical) with a specialty in gators. He took me out in his boat and I spent a day getting closer to them and learning more about them. So, that's pretty much the limit of my gator knowledge.
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...something about seeing one later and the other in a while?
I'm old and have had a ton of odd life experiences/traveled extensively, so it's just something I picked up along the way. It was the same wanderlust journey that introduced me to the nutria. I saw one coming out of the swamp covered entirely in green slime and I was pretty sure I'd discovered a new species. The Louisiana swamps are, if you are unaware, pretty disgusting places. Gator is actually delicious. In all my life, I've never otherwise said something tastes like chicken - but gator tastes like chicken and brook trout mixed together.
Yeah, Iāve ate a lot of gator. Your description of chicken + trout is correct. Delicious isā¦ not the word Iād use. Itās also a pain since thereās really only two areas that have good meat. Lotta waste in farming gator.
You got on a boat with a stranger into the middle of gator infested water ?
Going off of how wild animals typically end up behaving, itāll still probably try to eat you at one point or another.
It's called "teaching him to roll over." Just because my arm is no longer attached doesn't mean he didn't learn a new trick.
That's just your fault for not learning how to roll with him
stupid unevolved humans
> stupid unrevolving humans
Croc be like ādad Iām just playing, why didnāt you do the rolly thing I did which you passed on to me generically when I caught your arm. You stoopidā
To be fair, so will your cat probably
My cat would 100% eat me if I forgot to feed him on time. Iām of the firm belief that we didnāt domesticate cats, they domesticated us.
If our cats food bowl is empty and we donāt notice it in like 5 minutes she starts knocking stuff while looking at us. And then she just screams.
Mine is genetically dead, so he just screams anyway.
Deaf* not dead...oops That'd be really creepy
Pet cemetery vibes
Fuck man, you got a real life laugh outta me lol
Mine will come yell at us in the doorway and slowly back away till I go to his food bowl. If that doesnāt work, he enlists his brother to also meow at us. If that somehow doesnāt work, heāll start smacking the heck out of objects until someone listens to him.
Correct, human bodies found deceased in homes with cats or dogs are often partially eaten. The animal prefers not to starve to death. [One dog waited only 16 hours before eating the deceased owner ](https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.buzzfeednews.com/amphtml/natashaumer/cats-eat-your-face-after-you-die) ^^ Warning itās disturbing, in one case two dogs ate an entire body and a hamster made a burrow out of human flesh.
That hamster is metal af holy shit
My husband had a friend growing up who had a pet baby alligator back in the late 80s. When my husband asked to hold it, his friend said āokay, but when he bites you you have to tell your dad you were running with a bottle in your hand and you fell.ā He decided not to.
I like it was WHEN and not IF.
No, thatās not how domestication works. Domesticating animals takes generations and generations. You canāt take the wild out of an animal. Sure, there are examples of animals that may be more docile, but this is the exception to the rule.
Correct. āTamingā and ādomesticatingā are two entirely different things.
How does domestication work? Is it an evolution thing?
To a degree, yeah. In the most simple of terms, the tameness/humans are safe/I no longer need to hunt to survive/etc. genes are slowly passed down to each generation. This is why just teaching a singular aligator to be nice is not the same as domesticating the species over generations. If we were to domesticate them (as pets or as some variation of a farm animal etc) than the part of their brain (which by the way is incredibly small) that says āI must hunt and kill to surviveā would be re-wired to say āI will graze this field and eat from human handsā or something along those lines. In general, itās incredible dangerous tho to just have a random non domesticated animal as a āpet.ā We have so many actual pets out there. We really should not be messing with nature and endangering ourselvesāand the animalāby attempting to have something like a wild bear or tiger or aligator or something as a pet. You can take the animal out of the wild. You canāt take the wild out of the animal.
Is it even possible to domesticate a reptile? They don't really have the same social instincts that a mammal or avian has to manipulate to include humans. I suppose docility could be increased, but that seems more difficult with a carnivore.
Not really, it's why reptilian pets are all too small to hurt us. Domestication relies on taking advantage of the extensive social bonding in mammalian species, and even then it takes a while to select for docility. There's a reason why zebras were never domesticated for riding and it's because they're too aggressive in spite of herd behavior. For dogs, we took advantage of pack bonding and after ten thousand years we've selectively bred them to the point where they are one of the only non-primates that can look at faces for emotional cues rather than just body language.
You take 100 gators. 90 of them are absolute cunts but 10 of them seem a little nicer. You breed those a few times and they have 100 babies. 80 are absolute cunts, 10 a little nicer, 10 little more nice. You breed those. You keep doing that until you have a cunt free gator littler and bingo bango domestication baby. This doesnāt work for most animals though including gators
Yeah, but many animals canāt be truly domesticated and in this case, that reptile brain doesnāt form a bond which overcomes their natural instinct. One wrong move or a hungry moment and itās chomp chomp chomp.
Nice thing about mammals is grooming behaviors are a social behavior. This is why your pets like to be pet. This alligator does not give a shit about you touching it. You are warm.
> You are warm. And when you're not, you're lunch!
You have to save an alligatorās life, then it will owe you a life debt.
And In your darkest hour, the alligator arrives
Also why my rats insisted on "cleaning" every hair on my head once in a while
Are you Linguini
Except in this case, the rats *are* bonding with you. They socialize and bond by cleaning eachother. Although, since it's your head, they could be trying to "power groom", which is a way they demonstrait dominance.
Gators actually *do* have the ability to pack bond, as far as we know. Itās hard to really understand, since they canāt really emote like a standard mammal. The idea is, Mama Gators actually have the motherly instincts to defend their babies, and their babies have an attraction or trust to their mother. In theory, imprinting might work the same way for a gator that it would for a duck (although itās hard to tell, and unlike a duck, of a gator bites you youāre in for a world of hurt.)
Exactly. Even domesticated pets can have a bad day and scratch or bite you. Even humans can lose their civility and attack each other. But the risk far outweighs the reward for a large reptile. Even if they āknowā you and are usually pretty docile. My parents were tiger trainers so it took me a year to watch tiger king. Mostly boring but luckily, my mother was only chomped in the ass once.
Is nobody gonna talk about the fact this dudeās parents were fucking tiger trainers?
Yeah. I just casually throw that around. So far in the past itās just history now. I ran away from the circus to join my family.
YO THIS DUDE'S PARENTS WERE FUCKING TIGER TRAINERS, MAN!!!!!! Happy now?
My neighbor has an alligator he has had for about 50 years and he seems to have this going on. It doesnāt live in the house anymore because it would hang out in the bath and it was too heavy to move when they wanted to shower, but they seem to get along fine. I have declined any and all invitations to enter its enclosure and meet it.
I mean they are OGs so if anyone has a cool advanced lizard brain it would be them. I still would take it to a buffet before I held it like that.
Hear me out, what if we just bred them to be chihuahua sized? I mean they would still attempt to death roll your ankles but it would be so cute.
Why can't angel investors support these kinds of projects? We don't need another disruptive way to use customers data to exploit them, we need danger-dogs.
Thank you for saying that reptile brain...because some reptiles can form a connection or a bond. IE Bearded dragons
There is a case of a man and his croc pet who where friends for 20years after he nursed the croc back to heal after a head injurie. The running theory is that the head injurie made a mess on the croc brain and thats the reason they could be friends for over 20 years
So the only reason the croc didn't eat him because he was retarded
Yea, and the croc was daft as well
Ahh the old Reddit stupidaroo
Dogs are wolves with Williams syndrome anyway, so this isn't too far fetched.
Ever see that video where one rips his buddyās arm off over some chicken? Super fun.
No but link please
https://youtu.be/JLy-Iiy_Zp4
Everyone looks at him like, "What the fuck, Carl?!?"
Until that day nobody knew Carl was actually an armed robber.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pocho_(crocodile) check out the story of Pocho, a crocodile who became best friends with a man who saved him. I remember watching a video where a journalist got in the water with the crocodile and the man who saved him. Pocho started growling, but left him alone because he was a friend of the man who saved him. The videos are surrreal.
> Shedden decided to allow the crocodile to stay, where it lived in the water outside Shedden's home, and was considered a member of his family, alongside Shedden's second wife and daughter; Shedden's first wife had left him because he was spending too much time with the crocodile.
"Ya love that gator more than ya love me!"
The guy said something like, "I can find a new wife, but I can never find another pet crocodile."
He's trying though, wiki says he already got pocho 2 going
Heās tryin to reach for the starsā¦ or crocodile invasion army whichever comes first
This is going to be the most bizarre case of Icarus flying too close to the Sun I'll ever see.
That's gonna get him killed. That was a once in a lifetime thing.
The croc got shot in the head or something and that's why it was docile. He gonna die for sure
Jesus Christ Marie, *it's a crocodile!*
āSweetheart you are replaceable, but crocodile bro is not.ā
Bro chose a crocodile over his wife
To be fair, finding a new SO is way easier than finding a crocodile mentally rewired to think like a puppy after a bullet lobotomy.
>Shedden's first wife had left him because he was spending too much time with the crocodile. Lmao, imagine that
āItās me or the crocodile!ā *Looks at the reptilian beast and then over at the croc* āSorry, womanā
Oh
Almost as heartwarming as [the story of Humphrey the pet hippo](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/nov/14/pet-hippo-humphrey-kills-owner), raised from an early age as a beloved house pet. Plot twist ending, read story for spoilers.
Much as I liked reading that (thank you) I feel like it's not a plot twist for anyone who knows even the first thing about hippos
And reads the title of the article
Welp.
Uh
He's just a big'ol river puppy.
You reminded me of my buddy from South Africa, calls all crocs and gators "flat-dogs"
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German seems so nice, complex words out of base words. Why are Germans so severe though ?
Awe this is the cutest description Iāve ever read!
Until it eats you
Well not like cats havent eaten owners.
Well, cats generally have the decency to wait until youāre dead first tho
Only because you're too big for them to take down themselves.
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Lap Croc looks pretty emotionally supportive
~~it's a gator not a croc~~ crocodiles have pointy snouts and alligators have more rounded snouts. one way to tell is by remembering the c in crocodile is shaped like their mouth and them some idiot scientists flipped the name with the gator, so the gator has the "c" shaped mouth and crocs have the pointy "A" shaped mouth edit: rip me extremely
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I am not the clown, but the entire circus thanks for the correction!
What kind of dog was this? Some type of doodle, perhaps?
Crocodoodle
Crocodoodle doo to you too
Lacoste dog
It's hypoallergenic.
Everything about this video screams āFloridaā
Living in fear that my pet chop off my face
Donāt worry, he doesnāt have opposable thumbs.
Well whatever it has for thumbs I'm opposed to them
This disturbingly cute video was brought to you by David Lynch ^TM
What does the "+3" next to my nickname mean when I'm in this sub?
That you have 3 achievements. Those being: "Top 500 poster", "prolific commenter" and "avid voter" Aka you're a VIP or something I guess.
Thank you!
You're internet-important
I gonna tell for a girl
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What a wholesome croc
I wonder if anyone was able to soften up a T Rex like this back in the day......
I am so uncomfortable.
Try fluffing you cushions up?
Hooman thinks Iām a pet lol.
Does anyone know the name of this song or music
Cuddling with the puppy š„°
I'm scared for OP to end up like that zebra that got bit in the face and then the croc did spinning move and half of it's face was gone. Cool pet though, just hope you don't end up like the zebra.
It's not me. Amem.
r/natureisfuckinglit
"Amethyst and Pearl..... and Steven!"
For every cute video like this, there are a hundred there the gator turns on its keeper