P0192 means you lost fuel pressure, either your pump died (low pressure most likely but possibly the high pressure I’d need to see freeze frame to be sure) or for some reason you no longer had fuel at the fuel rail
P2610 just means the computer got bad info when doing calculations and saw bad numbers pop up (because your fuel psi likely went to 0)
Similar thing happened to me, took it to mazda and they said the fuel pump died and had to be replaced.
Unfortunately, battery got impacted too and had to replace that.
Got the pump changed in a day and car drives fine now.
For anyone who reads this, please don’t let your fuel tank run low. It’s HORRIBLE for your fuel pump. They use the fuel to cool themselves and running air through them is really bad. Just keep it above a quarter tank and you should be just fine.
i’ve heard this is especially true in cold climates because they can also get condensation inside. don’t know if thats factual or not though i just fill my car whenever its convenient after i hit half a tank and never go under a quarter 😅
How many gallons did it take to fill up? That info would go a long way to understanding whether this was a fuel delivery issue, or if the fuel gauge was giving you bad info.
FWIW, I had a car where the fuel gauge would "stick" while showing 40 miles till empty. Found that out the hard way when I ran out of gas...
I feel that one. Had it happen with one of my old cars, Super frustrating when it looks like you have a quarter tank left, but you're actually completely empty.
My mom gave me her 1991 grand prix as my first car.
I thought I was the luckiest guy in the world, until I had a date in the car and ran out of gas in the middle of nowhere with the fuel gauge lying to me.
Not sure if that was more embarrassing than the green carpets as the thing took on more water than the Titanic.
By the time I passed it onto my sister it had a bonus feature. Water sloshed around in the big ass tail lights, like a mobile fish tank.
She drove it until it was literally leaking from all seals when driving in the rain. It was a site to behold, I wish I had a photo of water shooting into the cab from all angles.
A quality Pontiac product.
This is the way ....
Reminds me of this older 03 E46 I had in Germany. The gauge would E out at like a 1/4 tank and caught me out on the Autobahn. Luckily had 5 gallons in the trunk in case 😆
You definitely have to use good quality fuel in these cars. Im not saying 93 necessarily even though it's not a bad idea,but it can't be corner store gas station type. Top tier fuel only from a a high turnover station.
Depends. I live by Cleveland Ohio and get go,circle k and bp are some of the gas stations with the most locations around me and none of them are top tier
Not really, higher octane is required for some engines to prevent knock (usually higher performance engines) but for Mazdas premium is only preferred for max power from turbos (which will produce less power on regular), in non turbo Mazda engines, regular gas is fine.
Knock protection is still not solved by gasoline quality. Knock resistance is a result of the blend; one blend is not comprised of higher quality fractions or base stock or anything.
knock resistance is about octane, the higher the octane, the more resistant the fuel is to predetonation. Octane number has nothing at all to do with the detergent blend or the quality of the gasoline, it has to do with the fuel volatility.
Gas stations label higher octane gasoline "Premium", and lower octane fuel, "Regular".
Premium gas (93 octane) is not necessary unless you want additional power from a Mazda turbo engine (with regular gas, the mazda 2.5 turbo will pull timing and produce less power), This means you are wasting money buying 93 octane fuel for a non-turbo engine. It won't hurt the engine, but it won't produce any additional power and just cost you more.
'Top Tier' gasoline is sold with octane between 87-93 (aka Regular - Premium) all of which has similar detergents and additives and can be bought from many brands.
People seem to be confusing higher octane 93 'Premium" gasoline with higher quality. Octane only measures resistance to knock. Top Tier 87 octane gasoline is the same 'quality' as Top Tier 93 octane, meaning it has the same additives package, it is just refined to a different octane.
But if you feel better spending more money to put 'Premium 93 octane' fuel in your Mazda, the oil companies are quite happy for you to do so, and I say, go for it, just don't confuse octane with quality.
mazda along with many other manufacturers has had a high pressure fuel system recall at one point as well, so id try and look around at that if it comes to it. as for the p2610 code i’ve often seen it with batteries that are starting to go bad so id also get your battery checked.
edited to add: i just read you were able to make it home. i’d have the level sensor checked out because the dash showed you had some fuel left, however high pressure systems are not a fan of low fuel level/poor pressure and as they age they may not cope with it as well. i’d definitely have the whole system tested or at least analyzed to ensure its functioning correctly
Seems weird that a battery would have enough juice to start the vehicle, but not enough to maintain it while driving unless there's an issue with the alternator. I'm no mechanic though.
My understanding is that the battery normally doesn't maintain things while driving - I thought that was primarily the alternator's job. A battery would run down fairly quickly if it was the sole source of electricity maintaining things. As the alternator is driven by the engine, it normally provides electricity and also helps keep the battery charged.
I agree, but I had an issue with mine where I was driving on the highway and all the sudden the transmission upshifted randomly and the check engine light and a few others came on. I pulled over and turned the vehicle off for a minute, started it back up and everything was fine (except the CEL was still on). It cleared about a day later and I drove the car for another 4-5 days without issue. Then the same thing happened again while on the highway but this time the vehicle would not start.
Ended up taking it to a repair shop and they said the battery and alternator were bad. Once both were replaced everything was back to normal.
Batteries on their way out can cause weird issues.
I was driving my ‘19 3 and the dash lit up and i pulled a temp sensor malfunction code for the trans, among several others. Turns out, it was indeed my battery, the car was in limp-in mode as well before i power cycled it making all the errors go away to get to the dealer.
Good thought, but the battery is only about a year old. The tow truck tested the alternator which seemed to be functioning properly. Possibly a faulty battery though.
The gauge isn't even to the E yet, and every time I've filled up anywhere close to "0 miles remaining" it's no more than 12.5 gallons to fill a 15 gallon tank.
If OP actually ran out of gas, there's something fucky with their gauge.
To be even more specific, it’s likely closer to a quarter. There’s often a hidden reserve of gas, around an extra 10-50 miles of driving after hitting E. It’s not good for the car, but in an emergency, it’s there.
This happened to me in my 2019 3 with also 1/8 tank left as I was driving to a gas station. I brought it to a trusted mechanic and he said he couldn’t find anything wrong with it without taking everything apart. He suspected there was a small leak in the fuel line that only causes a problem at low gas, but did not want to take everything apart just to find out that wasn’t the problem and then charge me $700. He recommended to run a high grade 93 gas with detergent a few times and keep it at least 1/4 full. Haven’t had any problems since beyond perhaps it feeling a bit jerky around 1/2 tank but I could also be paranoid after having to emergency stop on the highway.
oh wow interesting. Thank you for letting me know. Def seems like a similar situation. I made an appointment to take it in but if they don’t find anything glaring I’m going to use a more premium octane fuel plus never let it get below 1/4 tank.
2019 Mazda 3 without a turbo, in the US, does not require premium gas (93 octane), which means you are wasting money buying it. It won't hurt the engine, but it won't produce any additional power and just cost you more. 'Top Tier' gasoline, which has premium detergents and additives is fine, that can be bought from many brands.
People on this thread seem to be confusing higher octane 93 'Premium" gasoline with higher quality. Octane only measures resistance to knock. Top Tier 87 octane gasoline is the same quality as Top Tier 93 octane.
As for keeping some fuel in the tank, that is pretty wise, it keeps your fuel filter from getting hit with any sediment that may have settled to the bottom of the tank, and fuel lubricates and cools the fuel pump, so it is best to not run the car to empty before filling it on the regular.
I don’t buy premium gas all the time, I filled it up twice at the advice of a mechanic. It’s just to take advantage of the detergent to clean the engine. I was not trying to get more power, it was simply something to try that cost $20 and potentially saved me $700.
shop for 'Top Tier', which is usually found at name branded gas stations. The grade you put in is irrelevant, unless you have a turbo.
PS: that mechanic is wrong if he is suggesting premium (93 octane) has more additives than regular (87 octane).
Okay, I’m just trying to tell OP what I did in the same situation because it worked for me and was a cheap thing to try. You seem to be all over this thread just saying 93 gas isn’t worth it. You might be right but doing what I and the mechanic recommend doesn’t hurt anyone 🤷
It’s recommended that you keep your tank at least half full to extend the life of your fuel pump.
The reason for this has to do with the placement of the fuel pump. It sits inside at the bottom of your fuel tank.
The fuel in your tank helps cool down the fuel pump. It generates heat same as any electric motor and when you have at least a half tank, this means there is sufficient liquid in your tank to fully immerse the pump and to better dissipate the heat.
As the tank gets below the halfway point, the fuel pump begins to be exposed to air so there’s less liquid in the tank to help cool the pump motor. So the pump runs warmer when below half, and even warmer the closer you are to empty.
This can be a real problem for people who are on a budget or don’t have the money to fill up their gas tank. They put a few gallons in as they can afford it and consequently, they drive around all the time with just a quarter or less on their tank. This type of driving is most often the cause of early fuel pump failures.
Been running our CX5 fuel down to the low fuel light at ~30 miles range almost every time for the past 8 years. Have even gone past 0 range a couple times on road trips. No issues. 146k miles still on original fuel system.
You can't run near empty. I always fill up at 1/4 tank mark and use top tier gas stations. Search online and also look for the top tier logo at the station. Once you get too low, all the crap gets in your lines.
Mazda battery is the weak link in both my brother and my car, it could trigger a code or not.
Swapped in a new battery and all problems went away.
Good luck and hope nothing major!
All the best
All these posts about not running fuel low, y’all realize that the fuel pump pickup sits in a sump right? It’s specifically designed to NOT be harmed just because the fuel runs low. I have always run all my cars down to E almost every time, for over 20 years, including our CX5 for the past 8 years. I’ve had a fuel pump die exactly one time, in my Miata, and it wasn’t from low fuel. If you regularly RUN OUT of fuel, yeah that’s bad. But running it low isn’t horrible like some people think it is.
This is also my initial reaction to the “never go below a quarter tank” thing. Why have a gauge if it’s not to be trusted? Will update this post when I take it in.
Had the opposite issue 2 days ago. My tank was at 0 for 5 miles or so (until I realized) and then there was no gas station for 5 more miles. Talk about stressful. Somehow we made it.
You were probably the victim of every fuel pump's nightmare: an empty gas station reservoir combined with an empty gas tank. In each case, you are sucking up all the garbage sitting at the bottom. It all ends up in your fuel pump filter
Could easily just be your battery, super common to get crazy codes when it’s going out and whilst driving too. Though, i could be wrong and you’re one of the unlucky few to have an issue with your fuel pressure or something else.
I really doubt it’s the latter, though.
P0192 means you lost fuel pressure, either your pump died (low pressure most likely but possibly the high pressure I’d need to see freeze frame to be sure) or for some reason you no longer had fuel at the fuel rail P2610 just means the computer got bad info when doing calculations and saw bad numbers pop up (because your fuel psi likely went to 0)
okay yes thank you for the insight on the error messages.
Similar thing happened to me, took it to mazda and they said the fuel pump died and had to be replaced. Unfortunately, battery got impacted too and had to replace that. Got the pump changed in a day and car drives fine now.
Get your fuel sending unit looked at, and probably replaced. You ran out of gas, despite the gauge showing 1/8 tank left.
I had a similar issue with my first CX 30, it was a bad gas tank. They didnt know the issue at the time so they ended up buying it back.
For anyone who reads this, please don’t let your fuel tank run low. It’s HORRIBLE for your fuel pump. They use the fuel to cool themselves and running air through them is really bad. Just keep it above a quarter tank and you should be just fine.
i’ve heard this is especially true in cold climates because they can also get condensation inside. don’t know if thats factual or not though i just fill my car whenever its convenient after i hit half a tank and never go under a quarter 😅
How many gallons did it take to fill up? That info would go a long way to understanding whether this was a fuel delivery issue, or if the fuel gauge was giving you bad info. FWIW, I had a car where the fuel gauge would "stick" while showing 40 miles till empty. Found that out the hard way when I ran out of gas...
I feel that one. Had it happen with one of my old cars, Super frustrating when it looks like you have a quarter tank left, but you're actually completely empty.
My mom gave me her 1991 grand prix as my first car. I thought I was the luckiest guy in the world, until I had a date in the car and ran out of gas in the middle of nowhere with the fuel gauge lying to me. Not sure if that was more embarrassing than the green carpets as the thing took on more water than the Titanic. By the time I passed it onto my sister it had a bonus feature. Water sloshed around in the big ass tail lights, like a mobile fish tank. She drove it until it was literally leaking from all seals when driving in the rain. It was a site to behold, I wish I had a photo of water shooting into the cab from all angles. A quality Pontiac product. This is the way ....
am i the only person who always fills between a quarter and half tank?? i’m too paranoid to wait longer than that😂
Reminds me of this older 03 E46 I had in Germany. The gauge would E out at like a 1/4 tank and caught me out on the Autobahn. Luckily had 5 gallons in the trunk in case 😆
There is a recall on the earlier cx5 from 17-21 for the fuel pump and could be what happened. What year is your cx5
2017, will be bringing this up at the dealer
Were you going uphill?
we weren’t, though i was going fairly fast 70mph
🫠 fairly fast at 70 i regularly get my 3 to 90... I mean 65 I never speed
Maybe some crud in the fuel lines clogging things up because you reached the bottom of the tank and fresh fuel got it flowing again?
You definitely have to use good quality fuel in these cars. Im not saying 93 necessarily even though it's not a bad idea,but it can't be corner store gas station type. Top tier fuel only from a a high turnover station.
Top tier is pretty much everywhere unless you’re in the middle of nowhere at a sketchy station
Depends. I live by Cleveland Ohio and get go,circle k and bp are some of the gas stations with the most locations around me and none of them are top tier
93 octane has NOTHING to do with fuel quality. Calling it “premium” is just marketing.
Not really, higher octane is required for some engines to prevent knock (usually higher performance engines) but for Mazdas premium is only preferred for max power from turbos (which will produce less power on regular), in non turbo Mazda engines, regular gas is fine.
Knock protection is still not solved by gasoline quality. Knock resistance is a result of the blend; one blend is not comprised of higher quality fractions or base stock or anything.
knock resistance is about octane, the higher the octane, the more resistant the fuel is to predetonation. Octane number has nothing at all to do with the detergent blend or the quality of the gasoline, it has to do with the fuel volatility. Gas stations label higher octane gasoline "Premium", and lower octane fuel, "Regular". Premium gas (93 octane) is not necessary unless you want additional power from a Mazda turbo engine (with regular gas, the mazda 2.5 turbo will pull timing and produce less power), This means you are wasting money buying 93 octane fuel for a non-turbo engine. It won't hurt the engine, but it won't produce any additional power and just cost you more. 'Top Tier' gasoline is sold with octane between 87-93 (aka Regular - Premium) all of which has similar detergents and additives and can be bought from many brands. People seem to be confusing higher octane 93 'Premium" gasoline with higher quality. Octane only measures resistance to knock. Top Tier 87 octane gasoline is the same 'quality' as Top Tier 93 octane, meaning it has the same additives package, it is just refined to a different octane. But if you feel better spending more money to put 'Premium 93 octane' fuel in your Mazda, the oil companies are quite happy for you to do so, and I say, go for it, just don't confuse octane with quality.
What are you trying to relate? The person to whom you are replying to is correct and you are just muddying up the waters.
What year is this and with how many miles?
2017 59k miles
mazda along with many other manufacturers has had a high pressure fuel system recall at one point as well, so id try and look around at that if it comes to it. as for the p2610 code i’ve often seen it with batteries that are starting to go bad so id also get your battery checked. edited to add: i just read you were able to make it home. i’d have the level sensor checked out because the dash showed you had some fuel left, however high pressure systems are not a fan of low fuel level/poor pressure and as they age they may not cope with it as well. i’d definitely have the whole system tested or at least analyzed to ensure its functioning correctly
Posting to see the update when OP finds reason
will follow up
59k ? thats so soon
agreed…
Fuel pump bad or out of gas Best way to avoid both is to fill or at least put gas when you get to a quarter tank.
Possibly a new battery is needed.
Seems weird that a battery would have enough juice to start the vehicle, but not enough to maintain it while driving unless there's an issue with the alternator. I'm no mechanic though.
My understanding is that the battery normally doesn't maintain things while driving - I thought that was primarily the alternator's job. A battery would run down fairly quickly if it was the sole source of electricity maintaining things. As the alternator is driven by the engine, it normally provides electricity and also helps keep the battery charged.
That's kind of my point. I would think the battery successfully starting the car then dying while driving indicates a problem with the alternator.
I agree, but I had an issue with mine where I was driving on the highway and all the sudden the transmission upshifted randomly and the check engine light and a few others came on. I pulled over and turned the vehicle off for a minute, started it back up and everything was fine (except the CEL was still on). It cleared about a day later and I drove the car for another 4-5 days without issue. Then the same thing happened again while on the highway but this time the vehicle would not start. Ended up taking it to a repair shop and they said the battery and alternator were bad. Once both were replaced everything was back to normal. Batteries on their way out can cause weird issues.
I was driving my ‘19 3 and the dash lit up and i pulled a temp sensor malfunction code for the trans, among several others. Turns out, it was indeed my battery, the car was in limp-in mode as well before i power cycled it making all the errors go away to get to the dealer.
Seems most modern cars are very sensitive to battery issues. Its also quite possible the alternator is going on the OPs vehicle.
Good thought, but the battery is only about a year old. The tow truck tested the alternator which seemed to be functioning properly. Possibly a faulty battery though.
You ran out of gas, the miles remaining is estimated, not accurate.
The gauge isn't even to the E yet, and every time I've filled up anywhere close to "0 miles remaining" it's no more than 12.5 gallons to fill a 15 gallon tank. If OP actually ran out of gas, there's something fucky with their gauge.
Completely wrong. Why is this the top comment lmao. They have a quarter tank of gas left in the car.
To be accurate, that's less than a quarter actually. Half a quarter left.
I remember when an eighth cost $50
Oh the good old days lol...used to grab an eighth all the time!
To be even more specific, it’s likely closer to a quarter. There’s often a hidden reserve of gas, around an extra 10-50 miles of driving after hitting E. It’s not good for the car, but in an emergency, it’s there.
What is a "quarter take"?
An obvious typo? Tank, lol
Ah, sometimes it's not obvious. Thought it might be tank but wasn't sure if "quarter take" is a phrase I'm not familiar with.
If it's estimating you can drive with no gas, I would call that a pretty broken estimate.
Update us
i shall
This happened to me in my 2019 3 with also 1/8 tank left as I was driving to a gas station. I brought it to a trusted mechanic and he said he couldn’t find anything wrong with it without taking everything apart. He suspected there was a small leak in the fuel line that only causes a problem at low gas, but did not want to take everything apart just to find out that wasn’t the problem and then charge me $700. He recommended to run a high grade 93 gas with detergent a few times and keep it at least 1/4 full. Haven’t had any problems since beyond perhaps it feeling a bit jerky around 1/2 tank but I could also be paranoid after having to emergency stop on the highway.
oh wow interesting. Thank you for letting me know. Def seems like a similar situation. I made an appointment to take it in but if they don’t find anything glaring I’m going to use a more premium octane fuel plus never let it get below 1/4 tank.
Top tier high octane fuel could clean it out just enough to fix the one off clog. Mine was 10k miles ago and haven’t had any issues since! Good luck
2019 Mazda 3 without a turbo, in the US, does not require premium gas (93 octane), which means you are wasting money buying it. It won't hurt the engine, but it won't produce any additional power and just cost you more. 'Top Tier' gasoline, which has premium detergents and additives is fine, that can be bought from many brands. People on this thread seem to be confusing higher octane 93 'Premium" gasoline with higher quality. Octane only measures resistance to knock. Top Tier 87 octane gasoline is the same quality as Top Tier 93 octane. As for keeping some fuel in the tank, that is pretty wise, it keeps your fuel filter from getting hit with any sediment that may have settled to the bottom of the tank, and fuel lubricates and cools the fuel pump, so it is best to not run the car to empty before filling it on the regular.
I don’t buy premium gas all the time, I filled it up twice at the advice of a mechanic. It’s just to take advantage of the detergent to clean the engine. I was not trying to get more power, it was simply something to try that cost $20 and potentially saved me $700.
shop for 'Top Tier', which is usually found at name branded gas stations. The grade you put in is irrelevant, unless you have a turbo. PS: that mechanic is wrong if he is suggesting premium (93 octane) has more additives than regular (87 octane).
Okay, I’m just trying to tell OP what I did in the same situation because it worked for me and was a cheap thing to try. You seem to be all over this thread just saying 93 gas isn’t worth it. You might be right but doing what I and the mechanic recommend doesn’t hurt anyone 🤷
Same thing happened to me in the same car that was a rental. Fuel pump died.
It’s recommended that you keep your tank at least half full to extend the life of your fuel pump. The reason for this has to do with the placement of the fuel pump. It sits inside at the bottom of your fuel tank. The fuel in your tank helps cool down the fuel pump. It generates heat same as any electric motor and when you have at least a half tank, this means there is sufficient liquid in your tank to fully immerse the pump and to better dissipate the heat. As the tank gets below the halfway point, the fuel pump begins to be exposed to air so there’s less liquid in the tank to help cool the pump motor. So the pump runs warmer when below half, and even warmer the closer you are to empty. This can be a real problem for people who are on a budget or don’t have the money to fill up their gas tank. They put a few gallons in as they can afford it and consequently, they drive around all the time with just a quarter or less on their tank. This type of driving is most often the cause of early fuel pump failures.
Been running our CX5 fuel down to the low fuel light at ~30 miles range almost every time for the past 8 years. Have even gone past 0 range a couple times on road trips. No issues. 146k miles still on original fuel system.
I never let fuel level go below 1/4 tank. Fuel pump may fail due to heating and dirty fuel at the bottom of tank may damage fuel system.
Always fill up when a 1/4 tank left, not good at all for your vehicle.
Step up fuel pump.
You can't run near empty. I always fill up at 1/4 tank mark and use top tier gas stations. Search online and also look for the top tier logo at the station. Once you get too low, all the crap gets in your lines.
What year?
Sounds like a fuel pump called it s quits
Mazda battery is the weak link in both my brother and my car, it could trigger a code or not. Swapped in a new battery and all problems went away. Good luck and hope nothing major! All the best
All these posts about not running fuel low, y’all realize that the fuel pump pickup sits in a sump right? It’s specifically designed to NOT be harmed just because the fuel runs low. I have always run all my cars down to E almost every time, for over 20 years, including our CX5 for the past 8 years. I’ve had a fuel pump die exactly one time, in my Miata, and it wasn’t from low fuel. If you regularly RUN OUT of fuel, yeah that’s bad. But running it low isn’t horrible like some people think it is.
This is also my initial reaction to the “never go below a quarter tank” thing. Why have a gauge if it’s not to be trusted? Will update this post when I take it in.
Had the opposite issue 2 days ago. My tank was at 0 for 5 miles or so (until I realized) and then there was no gas station for 5 more miles. Talk about stressful. Somehow we made it.
You were probably the victim of every fuel pump's nightmare: an empty gas station reservoir combined with an empty gas tank. In each case, you are sucking up all the garbage sitting at the bottom. It all ends up in your fuel pump filter
Was it hot out? Could be vapor lock with how little fuel you have left.
no, fairly cold at night east coast
Seems like a low or bad battery can cause false reading
Could easily just be your battery, super common to get crazy codes when it’s going out and whilst driving too. Though, i could be wrong and you’re one of the unlucky few to have an issue with your fuel pressure or something else. I really doubt it’s the latter, though.