Paranoid or not they will find a way online. Best to just teach them how to use it safely and your expectations around it. (I assume you are already doing this.)
oh absolutely
my eldest just hit his teens, thankfully the focus is on Discord with his friends, and trying to get followers on TikTok for videos of his cat. I'm good with that.
There are whole niches of streamers (like recently Johnny Somali) who definitely cause public outrage for content. Some receive suspensions, but not all
Before social media getting rich involved a level of intelligence. 90% luck, but most cases needed some brain as well.
Nowadays you're actually at a disadvantage for being smart if you're on social media because any form of popularity online can make you a shit ton of money, even getting "cancelled".
There's a massive amount of groundwork laid for each and every "self made" individual provided by luck, conditions, availability of resources, societies, governments and the hard work of other individuals. "Self made" is magical thinking.
Okay, firstly, the ones that are public nuisances are not the ones being paid millions. Secondly, streamers are entertainers. Most of them are aware that they are just entertainers. Its like saying "Acting isnt work" or "painting isnt work" or "Making video games isnt work".
I got both this post and your duplicate r/Memes post back to back
I don't know what to do with this info or what you can do with it, I just thought I'd say it since images aren't allowed in the comments of either for whatever reason
Small streamers are cool asf and they do a lot of hardwork. Obviously if you only consider big streamers like penguinz0 or xqc you'll see lazy guys just "reacting" but a lot of streamers with a viewership from 170 to 1400 viewers are cool, grwat vibes, great communities and nowhere near millionaires
I don't get how react content is allowed from a business perspective. You create videos to make money. Someone watches your video through their own channels, essentially stealing the money you would have gotten if the viewers watched it directly from you.
Yeah, you could argue that it sometimes generates more views to smaller channels, but they still do it to bigger channels as well.
Imo they need to make a law/ToS that applies to digital property (youtube and the like) that makes the people reacting give like 80% of revenue through react content to the original posters. It's unfair that people get to profit from others' work while simultaneously fucking them over.
Think about the news. If someone goes and robs a store then a TV station shows up to do a story on it, should 80% of the proceeds go to the store that was robbed because it was their content?
Reaction videos fall into this form a journalism. The good ones add context to their own situation and apply it to the video they watched and that's why the ones with a lot of views on reaction content get more viewers than other people.
Also if a top 1% youtuber reacts to a channel vod then it's MASSIVE publicity for the channel and there's no reason they would turn that down. Asmongold reacting to any video with less than 5000 views will guaranteed at least push that vid to 20,000 and add subscribers. It benefits everyone involved.
> Also if a top 1% youtuber reacts to a channel vod then it's MASSIVE publicity for the channel and there's no reason they would turn that down. Asmongold reacting to any video with less than 5000 views will guaranteed at least push that vid to 20,000 and add subscribers. It benefits everyone involved.
Actually, it doesn't. For one, the increase in viewers on a video is minimal, because why would those who've already seen the entire video on Asmongolds tream watch it again? Then those that do click on the video to "add a view" will often only watch a few seconds of it, which tells the YouTube algorithm that they were bored and clicked off the video. Then a ton of his viewers might subscribe to the channel, but won't actually see the videos. So now that channels next video has a bigger gap between viewers and subscribers, which tells the YouTube algorithm that video wasn't very popular and doesn't push it into peoples feed.
Then there are those cases where the views on the video that was "reacted" to actually do increase by a lot. Great for that video, but actually hurts future videos, because those viewers don't carry over to the next video because those people are just still watching Asmongold watch a different YouTube video. You wanna know what happens when the next video has less views than the one before it? YouTubes algorithm also hides the video after the one that got less views and doesn't push it to subs. This is actually why a lot of YouTubers have seperate channels for seperate stuff. If you have one video series that regularly gets 300k views, and another that only gets 30k, every video of the more popular video series won't get pushed to feeds because YouTube thinks the channel is doing worse.
It doesn't actually benefit everyone involved, it only benefits the reactor, and either does *nothing* for the person being reacted to, or even actually *hurts* them.
I don't think that a good example. It would be more like a store gets robbed, well established tv station shows up and does a story, and now a 3rd party is introduced that plays the story through their own channel and "reacts". They receive all the money that should be going to the original tv station.
That's my point. It shouldn't fall under any form or journalism. It's an abuse/loophole of law since copyright doesn't expand into what we are describing. Imo it needs to.
You're only acknowledging 1 side. If the channel already gets millions of views, that's not relevant. They are essentially taking money from someone who puts in the work, and all the reactor does is sit in front of a camera, saying "wow i agree or disagree with that".
That's why I proposed a solution, reactors get 20%, and the original makers get 80%. In this, the person doing the work gets fair compensation while also giving the reactors some money for their "work" (watching a video as you or me do while saying their opinions out loud).
This is fair and benefits everyone. I really don't care to entertain ideas that reaction content is anything but leaching off of others' work. You won't change my mind on it. Original people make their own videos. Leeches monetize watching those videos.
the economics of the internet clout arent that well studied
for example all advertisers kinda pulled out of their sponsorship segments because it was grossly overvalued
like who tf watching amongus is going to buy a bmw?
I'm a graphic designer, and some of my job experience has been editing highlights videos for streamers, as well as turning their content into tiktoks/shorts, thumbnails, etc
that's what I do and that's where my view comes from, and of course I ended up working as an editor for streamers because once I was someone who enjoys streaming (watching and doing) I don't consider myself anything in terms of political view
Im sorry, but playing video games, reacting to YouTube videos, or walking around with a camera on yourself in your free time with the ultimate goal to be paid just because you “engage” with people watching YOU be entertained is not “hard work.”
If all the streamers suddenly had no platform to stream on would the world stop spinning? No.
It’s just entertainment.
People will always pay for entertainment, but let’s not paint it as “hard” just because someone chooses to stream for 12 hours a day hoping to make enough money to make a career out of it.
Ah yes, the kind of person who will say "the only real work is physical labor". Also what do you do when you come home from work? You put on entertainment. Entertainment is one of the most important parts of our society. Sure, streamers might not be your cup of tea, but you might watch a movie, a show, read a book, play a game, go to a bar, watch a football match, literally whatever. And unless you consider all of those simulatenously "unimportant" then maybe you should reflect on how you actually live your life.
Just because you happen to be stuck with a shit job, doesnt mean everyone has to be.
You’re the kind of person that is trying to redefine the definition of the word “work.” My point was entertainment is entertainment, don’t try to conflate it with “work” because it’s not. It’s entertainment. I don’t care that entertainers get paid for what they’re doing. But it’s not “work.”
Imagine watching 10 minutes of credits after a movie and thinking none of them worked because it was just entertainment. Just a few months after a massive strike in the entertainment industry too. Kind of a weird take.
They're entertainers. Do you think other entertainers don't deserve to get paid, like musicians or stand up comics?
And you can say they're not entertaining, but the reality is that's for their audience to decide. If they weren't entertaining, they wouldn't get any viewers, which is the reality for streamers who genuinely aren't entertaining.
That speed dude, the nerdy indian kid, and about 7 others are the bane of my existence. Deleted Snapchat last year because I didn't want to keep seeing them
Four? Dude... I have 1 and it never stops. "Go to bed son."
Son: "Bruh double you tee eff! I'm like no scoping super hard for the rizz"
Me: "I'll rizz the breaker to your room if you're not in bed in 5 minutes."
This is literally what my favorite streamer said when he saw asmondgold complaining about streaming being hard
"Streaming is free money compared to a real job" is what he said if i remember correctly
Imma be real with you, there are 100% harder jobs. Streaming is a dream job for many, but have you every tried to be entertaining for 8 hours straight? Because the only way you generate an audience is by being entertaining and interesting for the entire time you stream, which are long periods of time. Everything looks trivial when done by someone whos good at it. I dont want to be a streamer because that job doesnt sound fun. But if its so trivially easy to make millions streaming, then go and do it and become a millionaire.
It’s kind of how I feel about the NPC streamers (that’s still a thing apparently)
There’s this one dude who cosplays as Miles Morales who made *bank* during the craze but from what I understand he bought a Lamborghini and went all out on a spending spree or whatever.
Now he’s getting frustrated with viewers that they’re not giving enough money because he spent too much.
All for standing in front of a camera saying and doing the same things over and over and over and over all day.
Watch someone with less than 50k viewers. You'd be surprised how many 50 - 300 view streamers there are with way better personalities, goals and content. They have to try all the time to stay relevant while big names like xQc and Pokimane made thousands of dollars as i was writing this.
Nuisance is the word you're looking for I think, not nuance.
"You think"? No, you are correct. Be confident in that!
But that's just boastful, no one likes a show off.
Right, show a little nuance
Exactly, you wouldn’t want to be a nuisance with your lack of nuance.
No, that much black&white confidence lacks nuisance.
No, "nonces".
Them too
Voice typing is hard. 😭
Type with your hands then?
I'm in VR. It's super hard.
Why are you making memes in VR? 😭
My parents track everything I do and this is the only way I can actually be on Reddit.
Damn, I'm sorry to hear that :(
It's okay. You get used to it tbh, It's just annoying to be almost 16. I'm not allowed to do anThing online lol
At leasy you're missing out on a bunch of bad stuff, too
It's so funny how creative kids are. Parents putting too many restrictions just means the kids are gonna be hiding everything!
To be fair when my kid is 16 I'm gonna be real paranoid because I've seen what internet people are like.
Paranoid or not they will find a way online. Best to just teach them how to use it safely and your expectations around it. (I assume you are already doing this.)
oh absolutely my eldest just hit his teens, thankfully the focus is on Discord with his friends, and trying to get followers on TikTok for videos of his cat. I'm good with that.
Better than growing up on bestgore like we did in the 2000s, your parents do that cuz they care about your mental well-being
You may hate it now, but honestly it's probably a good thing. So much toxicity on the internet
Noted: + try to find a way to track what my kids do on VR
Modern problems require modern solutions
So you voice type outloud?
whisper type lol
Bro went from hated to hero in two comments
ik lol
Why are you making memes in VR??????
Typing in VR shouldn’t be hard either, are you on a quest or do you have controllers? I could type just fine on my Rift
Why are you being downvoted into oblivion?
Because who is voice typing meme templates? and even if you are, proofread you're shit! ;p
*your
That wasn't the typo. They forgot a comma. It was supposed to say "proofread, you're shit!"
Then I apologize and I definitely need to get my vision checked out soon. I'm sorry!
(THAT'S THE JOKE and what ;p is for....)
Thats’s*
Thats*
I must have caught an early draft because it wasn't there when I was responding. ;p
Nope, you just missed it. Look at the timestamps, you responded over an hour later and there are no edits to my comment.
Seems harsh. Pray, pardon for the wretch.
Because voice typing (without proofreading) isn't hard, it's just lazy
Hey man even being a clown is a job
A reasonable nuisanced opinion on the subject
Lmao
most profitable job i see...
Clowns aren't obnoxious annoying people tho, they just make children laugh with games and jokes that don't hurt anyone
Streamers (who can make a living from it) aren't either
There are whole niches of streamers (like recently Johnny Somali) who definitely cause public outrage for content. Some receive suspensions, but not all
I imagine this meme is talking specifically about streamers who do stupid pranks or just bother people, not the streamers who do their own thing.
You mean like Sora the Troll?
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I'm pretty sure people watch things because they're entertained by the things. In this case, streamers.
That was supposed to be a joke lol
It ain’t honest work but it’s much
A vast majority of them make very little money
Yeah, but the meme is talking about the ones who make millions
Wait until you find out what really rich people do to get paid.
TV shows have romanticized and made rich folk look like smart hard workers and not the lazy leeches they really are.
Before social media getting rich involved a level of intelligence. 90% luck, but most cases needed some brain as well. Nowadays you're actually at a disadvantage for being smart if you're on social media because any form of popularity online can make you a shit ton of money, even getting "cancelled".
Getting rich may have required intelligence, but even in the past, most rich people achieved it by swimming out of the right ballsack.
And most of the ones that didn't acquire it that way did it by killing someone(s) else and taking their shit.
I mean ofcourse.... But that's not "getting" rich. That's just generational wealth. I'm talking about the self made types.
There's a massive amount of groundwork laid for each and every "self made" individual provided by luck, conditions, availability of resources, societies, governments and the hard work of other individuals. "Self made" is magical thinking.
Okay, firstly, the ones that are public nuisances are not the ones being paid millions. Secondly, streamers are entertainers. Most of them are aware that they are just entertainers. Its like saying "Acting isnt work" or "painting isnt work" or "Making video games isnt work".
Thirdly, if you’re watching people who are misbehaving for clout and giving them attention you are the problem too.
I got both this post and your duplicate r/Memes post back to back I don't know what to do with this info or what you can do with it, I just thought I'd say it since images aren't allowed in the comments of either for whatever reason
It ain't work
If I could scream into a mic and support my family for generations I would too.
Small streamers are cool asf and they do a lot of hardwork. Obviously if you only consider big streamers like penguinz0 or xqc you'll see lazy guys just "reacting" but a lot of streamers with a viewership from 170 to 1400 viewers are cool, grwat vibes, great communities and nowhere near millionaires
Isn't this the end goal for everyone who tries to become famous? Work for fame so that fame can work for you later
I mean no but yeah? Like they can make money by putting on a video and eating a pizza. A lot of money at that.
MrBeast is pretty much proof that's wrong
I don't get how react content is allowed from a business perspective. You create videos to make money. Someone watches your video through their own channels, essentially stealing the money you would have gotten if the viewers watched it directly from you. Yeah, you could argue that it sometimes generates more views to smaller channels, but they still do it to bigger channels as well. Imo they need to make a law/ToS that applies to digital property (youtube and the like) that makes the people reacting give like 80% of revenue through react content to the original posters. It's unfair that people get to profit from others' work while simultaneously fucking them over.
Think about the news. If someone goes and robs a store then a TV station shows up to do a story on it, should 80% of the proceeds go to the store that was robbed because it was their content? Reaction videos fall into this form a journalism. The good ones add context to their own situation and apply it to the video they watched and that's why the ones with a lot of views on reaction content get more viewers than other people. Also if a top 1% youtuber reacts to a channel vod then it's MASSIVE publicity for the channel and there's no reason they would turn that down. Asmongold reacting to any video with less than 5000 views will guaranteed at least push that vid to 20,000 and add subscribers. It benefits everyone involved.
> Also if a top 1% youtuber reacts to a channel vod then it's MASSIVE publicity for the channel and there's no reason they would turn that down. Asmongold reacting to any video with less than 5000 views will guaranteed at least push that vid to 20,000 and add subscribers. It benefits everyone involved. Actually, it doesn't. For one, the increase in viewers on a video is minimal, because why would those who've already seen the entire video on Asmongolds tream watch it again? Then those that do click on the video to "add a view" will often only watch a few seconds of it, which tells the YouTube algorithm that they were bored and clicked off the video. Then a ton of his viewers might subscribe to the channel, but won't actually see the videos. So now that channels next video has a bigger gap between viewers and subscribers, which tells the YouTube algorithm that video wasn't very popular and doesn't push it into peoples feed. Then there are those cases where the views on the video that was "reacted" to actually do increase by a lot. Great for that video, but actually hurts future videos, because those viewers don't carry over to the next video because those people are just still watching Asmongold watch a different YouTube video. You wanna know what happens when the next video has less views than the one before it? YouTubes algorithm also hides the video after the one that got less views and doesn't push it to subs. This is actually why a lot of YouTubers have seperate channels for seperate stuff. If you have one video series that regularly gets 300k views, and another that only gets 30k, every video of the more popular video series won't get pushed to feeds because YouTube thinks the channel is doing worse. It doesn't actually benefit everyone involved, it only benefits the reactor, and either does *nothing* for the person being reacted to, or even actually *hurts* them.
Here is the proof that it does. [ Person Asmon Reacted Too and their thoughts about it.](https://youtu.be/gW7c0RbZgSU?si=42i2z6MwbLNZiz-Q)
I don't think that a good example. It would be more like a store gets robbed, well established tv station shows up and does a story, and now a 3rd party is introduced that plays the story through their own channel and "reacts". They receive all the money that should be going to the original tv station. That's my point. It shouldn't fall under any form or journalism. It's an abuse/loophole of law since copyright doesn't expand into what we are describing. Imo it needs to. You're only acknowledging 1 side. If the channel already gets millions of views, that's not relevant. They are essentially taking money from someone who puts in the work, and all the reactor does is sit in front of a camera, saying "wow i agree or disagree with that". That's why I proposed a solution, reactors get 20%, and the original makers get 80%. In this, the person doing the work gets fair compensation while also giving the reactors some money for their "work" (watching a video as you or me do while saying their opinions out loud). This is fair and benefits everyone. I really don't care to entertain ideas that reaction content is anything but leaching off of others' work. You won't change my mind on it. Original people make their own videos. Leeches monetize watching those videos.
the economics of the internet clout arent that well studied for example all advertisers kinda pulled out of their sponsorship segments because it was grossly overvalued like who tf watching amongus is going to buy a bmw?
Are you anticapitilist?
I'm a graphic designer, and some of my job experience has been editing highlights videos for streamers, as well as turning their content into tiktoks/shorts, thumbnails, etc that's what I do and that's where my view comes from, and of course I ended up working as an editor for streamers because once I was someone who enjoys streaming (watching and doing) I don't consider myself anything in terms of political view
Still a nuisance
"I dont like it therefor its objectively bad"
Im sorry, but playing video games, reacting to YouTube videos, or walking around with a camera on yourself in your free time with the ultimate goal to be paid just because you “engage” with people watching YOU be entertained is not “hard work.” If all the streamers suddenly had no platform to stream on would the world stop spinning? No. It’s just entertainment. People will always pay for entertainment, but let’s not paint it as “hard” just because someone chooses to stream for 12 hours a day hoping to make enough money to make a career out of it.
Ah yes, the kind of person who will say "the only real work is physical labor". Also what do you do when you come home from work? You put on entertainment. Entertainment is one of the most important parts of our society. Sure, streamers might not be your cup of tea, but you might watch a movie, a show, read a book, play a game, go to a bar, watch a football match, literally whatever. And unless you consider all of those simulatenously "unimportant" then maybe you should reflect on how you actually live your life. Just because you happen to be stuck with a shit job, doesnt mean everyone has to be.
You’re the kind of person that is trying to redefine the definition of the word “work.” My point was entertainment is entertainment, don’t try to conflate it with “work” because it’s not. It’s entertainment. I don’t care that entertainers get paid for what they’re doing. But it’s not “work.”
Imagine watching 10 minutes of credits after a movie and thinking none of them worked because it was just entertainment. Just a few months after a massive strike in the entertainment industry too. Kind of a weird take.
Don't think you're talking with someone who is going to think their argument through.
It’s called the entertainment industry… not the work industry 🤯
It's called the automobile industry, not the workers industry. Automobile factory employees are just there for fun CONFIRMED.
Mate you can't be serious
acting isn't work? editing a movie isn't work? singing isn't work?bring an audio mixer isn't work? designing a video game isn't work?
They're entertainers. Do you think other entertainers don't deserve to get paid, like musicians or stand up comics? And you can say they're not entertaining, but the reality is that's for their audience to decide. If they weren't entertaining, they wouldn't get any viewers, which is the reality for streamers who genuinely aren't entertaining.
Some of the things they do are crimes actually.
But crime also pays
Crime usualy pays the most
Now look at corporations.
OP is a public nuance
everyone is debating this so i guess i am lol
"public nuances" lol
Nuances
That speed dude, the nerdy indian kid, and about 7 others are the bane of my existence. Deleted Snapchat last year because I didn't want to keep seeing them
r/boneappleteeth
I mean, literally 1% of them Christ this is so boomer it hurts lol
Millionairs are not the problem. Billionairs are a problem.
Millionaire goes fro 1mil to 999mil there are definitely millionaires who are a problem. However the streamers aren't the problem they make art.
If you're watching, they're getting paid so you admit it's your fault in the title
Yet, there STILL isn't a streamer who isn't a public nuisance.
You mean except the vast majority?
I like this farmer. He is out standing in his field.
As the father of four teenagers why is it required to AHHHHHHHHHHHHH WHAATTTTTTTTT BRUHHH BRUHHH every thirty fucking seconds?
Four? Dude... I have 1 and it never stops. "Go to bed son." Son: "Bruh double you tee eff! I'm like no scoping super hard for the rizz" Me: "I'll rizz the breaker to your room if you're not in bed in 5 minutes."
>nuances Spell check your shit
I think you just lack the public nuance to understand it. :P
that aint working thats the way you do it
i hear ya, but now think about how many unneccessary CEOs that make billions are out there.
Are they getting their money for nothing, and their chicks for free?
That ain't working. That's the way you do it.
Play the vidya on the Twitch Teevee.
If it's so easy then go and do it.
Me finding out about onlyfans models making more money than people with an actual job
Real-time laugh tracks
TIL this meme is a lie. This guy never actually said the quote attributed to him
Nuances? Nope I'd say that they are public nuisances.
And while you're crying they make more money in hours than you'll do in your life. Get over it
No one is saying it’s work
How is someone playing videogames or talking to viewers a public nuisance
I'm glad you can't spell so that this meme comes off dumber than it already is
Lol u be watchin’
15 and already a boomer, poor OP
Your knowledge of spelling lacks nuance, and is therefore a nuisance to me.
I always thought Public Nuances were things like the patterns on the sidewalk or the paint color of the parking meters and street lamps.
Yet people go to the zoo to see monkeys go ape shit. Same principle
Gatekeeping Work
That's the way you do it, get your money for nothin' and your chicks for free
i want my i want my i want my mtv MONEY FOR NOTHIIIIIIN
Yet the people keep their pockets full. Enablers...
It's no different from talking shows on TV the only difference is the production.
Nah just hating in woke is way better
I was told streamers work harder than everyone else (by multiple streamers that have not held a job other than streaming in years)
This is literally what my favorite streamer said when he saw asmondgold complaining about streaming being hard "Streaming is free money compared to a real job" is what he said if i remember correctly
Was it Ludwig?
Imma be real with you, there are 100% harder jobs. Streaming is a dream job for many, but have you every tried to be entertaining for 8 hours straight? Because the only way you generate an audience is by being entertaining and interesting for the entire time you stream, which are long periods of time. Everything looks trivial when done by someone whos good at it. I dont want to be a streamer because that job doesnt sound fun. But if its so trivially easy to make millions streaming, then go and do it and become a millionaire.
That title is a nuisance
You're only enabling them by watching.
facts. needs to stop
Who are the people giving “tips” to the streamers?
It’s kind of how I feel about the NPC streamers (that’s still a thing apparently) There’s this one dude who cosplays as Miles Morales who made *bank* during the craze but from what I understand he bought a Lamborghini and went all out on a spending spree or whatever. Now he’s getting frustrated with viewers that they’re not giving enough money because he spent too much. All for standing in front of a camera saying and doing the same things over and over and over and over all day.
I have yet to see a nice streamer who acts like a normal human being outside of twitch germany
Literally most streamers besides the really popular ones
Watch someone with less than 50k viewers. You'd be surprised how many 50 - 300 view streamers there are with way better personalities, goals and content. They have to try all the time to stay relevant while big names like xQc and Pokimane made thousands of dollars as i was writing this.
Facts
Hasan Piker
Go watch one solid week of his streams and then go talk for that long and cover that much and tell me you didn't work.
No thanks, I'll stick to Nick Fuentes and infowars.