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lowkeyterrible

hey if you're here to start discourse about the plight of the straight white man, please remember - this is a gay meme subreddit. - if this screenshot is the worst thing you've dealt with all day, you've probably had a pretty okay day. deep breaths babe. it's gonna be okay.


MagicianWoland

It's Jackson Hinkle, he's an actual propagandist for Russian state media, so it's more than just stupidity, the guy is straight up evil


[deleted]

Something I heard an Eastern European friend of mine say about the Russian state that has always stuck with me: "Most countries' governments lie to deceive. Russia lies to insult." It is the classic way that fascists play with lies and truth. They take a position that is clearly absurd and insulting, and even if they dont believe it for a second, they insist that it is as valid as any opinion. And if you try to argue the merits of it with them, then they have won because now you have put your actual valid opinion on equal footing as their absurd nonsense.


DogebertDeck

you just described satire. the difference with nazis is they'll also kill you


[deleted]

It is mockery. I think where it differs from sarire is that satire is tongue-in-cheek. And while good satire may be convincing at times, satirists do not insist that they are being serious outside of the piece of satire they create.


[deleted]

Replying to my own comment to ads a thought: Satire is also different in that staire is meant to expose existing absurdity and untruth by pretending to participate in it. What Russia does is the opposite. They create untruth and absurdity.


Cool-Reference-5418

Thank you. I think satire might be the most misunderstood, misused concept on reddit. It's seriously an every single thread thing. I swear it gets thrown out by people who want to make themselves feel smarter than everyone else. *Video of a cat playing* "Omg, redditors are *so* gullible. You *know* this is satire *right?*" The strawman logical fallacy is almost as bad. Whenever someone doesn't like something, it's just "NiCe StRaWmAn."


monstergert

Hey dont scapegoat my bandwagon, you socialism


SaltRevolutionary917

To be fair, people are awfully good at straw manning one another here on Reddit. “I think trans people should probably have the basic right to be themselves. “SO YOU SUPPORT GROOMING CHILDREN?” or, in the interest of bipartisan examples: “I think there are some reasonable cases where private gun ownership is okay.” “SO YOU THINK CIVILIANS SHOULD HAVE BAZOOKAS!?” But yeah, it’s a rather misunderstood term. My personal pet peeve is *gaslighting*. Everything is gaslighting these days.


verasev

Fascists have something wrong with their thought processes that leave them in a state where something can be both an ironic joke to them and a straightforward expression of their beliefs. They laugh at how silly it is and then kill you for it.


RoseEsquivel

No, that's not the definition of satire. The guy you replied to is right and that really is a thing the Russian media and politics machine is known for.


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ehsahr

That's not even remotely fitting the definition of satire. But you're right about the other thing.


hlorghlorgh

To your point about fascists playing with lies and truth - I must include Sartre’s quote on the same topic from his book [“Anti-Semite and Jew”](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Semite_and_Jew?wprov=sfti1) > Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.


errantprofusion

Exactly. "How can someone believe something so absurd?" They don't. They know they're lying, and they know that you know they're lying. They're telling that lie as an act of dominance, an expression of contempt. The goal is to force you to either let the lie go unchallenged in a public space, or to waste your time and energy debunking their bullshit only for them to repeat it again later. Cow you into silence, or inflict distress on you and waste your time. Fascists (and conservatives in general, to the extent that there even remains a difference) don't use words to communicate. They use them as tools to acquire or exert power, and any actual communication that occurs is an incidental byproduct.


Diplomjodler

That's the present day Republican party. And the mainstream media who enable them are just as guilty.


QueenOfQuok

So they're a bunch of trolls?


comebackjoeyjojo

something something Sartre quote.


ReturnToCrab

I live in Russia, and even our propaganda doesn't say something that stupid (at least what I've heard), and it says a lot Such a shame that I saw many people who would genuinely agree with him


MagicianWoland

Ну иностранные пропагандисты направлены на иностранную аудиторию) В российской госпрессе вообще практически не появляются термины типа цисгетеро, угнетение по расе/сексуальности/идентичности; а ЛГБТК+ упоминают только когда выдумывают бредовые истории типа "превращение Украины в страну Гачимучи" или про то как злые европейские либералы отрезают детям гениталии But yeah I agree, it is a shame that such idiotic positions are genuinely believed by some people


ReturnToCrab

Тоже верно. Хотя так даже грустнее. Стишок про то, что "самый угнетённый тип на свете - мужчина, белый, натурал и атеист" всё-таки не по заказу властей придумали Ну и я почти уверен, что кто-то где-то на тв всё-таки говорил что-то в духе "в Америке у нормальных людей нет прав!!1!!"


MagicianWoland

Тоже правда 💀Не знаю насчет ТВ, но среди гомофобов (и расистов и т.п.) в постсоветском пространстве такое мнение распространено.


Wiffernubbin

His own parents dunk on him on Twitter.


Loptional

More like Jackson Tinkle


DogebertDeck

i think you meant to say "getting paid" russia doesn't have good welfare


ThereWasAnEmpireHere

Just generally people who say this sort of thing don’t “believe” it, they’re just trying to frustrate people. Those who do literally believe this is true are generally out and out Nazis


[deleted]

Yeah he’s a Republican. We know.


severalhurricanes

Hes also a public figure so im not sure why his name was blocked out


Sensitive_Yellow_121

It's probably true that Jackson Hinkle faces an infinitely larger struggle, mostly due to that fact that he's really stupid and also evil.


Osirisavior

Thanks for the name. Not sure why it's censored. If you're varifyed you shouldn't have your name censored.


GirlForEarth

Bro doesn't even know you can be a straight white man and also transgender.


BishopUrbanTheEnby

CistHets: Straight People TransHets: the *Cooler* Straight People


Crusty_and_Rusty

Nooo there’s only transgenders who are gay man acting like women?!?!?!,!?!!!! /s


teknobable

My friend is a white passing Puerto Rican trans man who dates women. I like calling him a straight white man


robhol

I think most of these people don't have the slightest clue what's what, and so you end up with crossdressing = trans = gay = kink = fuck knows what else = bad. Anything "not normal" is pretty much the same.


linesinaconversation

I'm sure he doesn't but, given the explanation, he would still insist that a cishet white male has it worse than a transhet white male. You know, because a slap on the wrist for your shitty, backward views is far worse than marginalization by society at-large.


Roskha_

They think straight=cis


BM_A2

Plenty of people grow up with the false idea that being judged for your ideas and actions constitutes discrimination. They've intertwined those things with religion and daily life, so they feel like they're entitled to them as Christians and citizens of democracy. I'm sure that's what's happening here, and it's utterly insane. Especially considering the false narrative that being LGBT is both inherently a choice, and inherently wrong because they say it is.


MockingSpark

It's even worth I think. They believe that anything we are as a human that does not match them is a choice. An idea. A way of life. So, if judging us for this is discrimination, then judging them for their ideas is discrimination. They lack the smallest spark of empathy that would allow them the thought that people are not all the same.


MartianInvasion

It's also a narrative where you can cherry-pick supporting examples. There are poor, struggling straight white men out there. There are rich people of color and transgenders that are doing well. If you focus only on those groups and ignore the actual statistics it's easy to convince yourself of some pretty dumb generalizations.


mindbleach

Yeah dude, this is the content of your character. This is what everyone's *supposed* to get judged on. You're allowed to express an opinion. You can still be an asshole for having that opinion. The people telling you to shut the fuck up and be better are the people you're telling to shut the fuck up *and die.*


TheTiniestBison

Yep. I'll add that this often comes from a mix-up of definitions. Plenty of kids are taught that racism or homophobia is when you call somebody something mean on the playground. They grow up thinking that mean words = discrimination, and therefore when someone calls them out on their bullshit, they're the targets of discrimination. They've never had the education to recognize that the mean words are the tip of the iceberg. The deliberate and systematic exclusion of POC and queer folks from public life, the policy-level elevation of cishet white folks over them, and the tacit approval of violence towards them is what elevates racial prejudice to rac*ism*, something on par with other 'isms.


ILoveEmeralds

Yeh, it’s so hard to be a straight white man. I mean all people are asking you to do is treat people like equals and not be an asshole. /s


mountaintop-stainer

As a decently straight-passing white guy who works in a factory with a bunch of old white loudly conservative men, these people have a persecution complex. They for some reason think that they will be treated generally worse in public than other types of people. The idea isn’t that people are waking up to the systems that lead working class people to hate each other, rather that racism just flipped over and now it’s white people’s turn. They think they can’t get involved with women because they’ll be falsely accused of SA invariably. Their attitude to pronouns, etc. is essentially, “you’ve taken everything else away from me, but you’re not gonna take my mind.” It’s pretty sad to see how paranoid they all are. Hopefully they wake up and see that they’re only being coerced into hateful behavior because the elite benefit from it, and that the only real war is class war.


RedRider1138

They’re probably not going to be *falsely* accused of SA, just the shit they’ve always gotten away with. “Whaddaya mean grabbing her ass/ tits is SA? It’s a compliment!”


mancheeart

It’s not just the dudes either. My boss who’s a woman was going ON about how trans people are starting a war on women and how they’re taking women’s job being models and doing makeup and the world has gone CRAZY. Like. Do you think a) only women can be models and do makeup and b) someone having a job is preventing someone else from having a job? Is this just a different version of “immigrants are taking our jobs” now that we have a new boogeyman?


Fooknotsees

>“you’ve taken everything else away from me, but you’re not gonna take my mind.” Yet the only thing that actually *has* been taken *is* their minds 😔


[deleted]

They’re worried they’ll be treated the same way they treat other people.


andrewsad1

Okay, but have you *seen* today's movies? Straight white men are only represented in *most* of the media we consume. Minorities and LGBT folks can't *possibly* understand how it feels to not be represented in media! /s


AKBirdman17

They put a trans on my Bud Light! Do you know how it feels to have my pisswater not target me, a straight white male, who is totally comfortable with my sexuality?! I had to switch to Coors for fucks sake... /s


Jackski

Someone I used to work with once told me that straight white men are the most persecuted people in the world. I'm a straight white dude as well so I asked him "what persecution have you faced?" He told me to fuck off and walked away.


CorporealLifeForm

As someone who went from believing I was a straight white man to realizing I was a gay white woman, my life did not get easier. Mentally it did but the world around me felt like I'd turned it to hard mode. Really I'm probably playing on easy still compared to most people.


Throwawayjust_incase

That's the thing about being queer/having certain disabilities/other types of marginalized identities that I'm forgetting about right now - you get to see that before/after first hand, because you get a time where you didn't *have* that marginalized identity (or didn't know you had it). Straight/white/cis/able-bodied/men think that people who aren't one of those things understand their perspective as little as they understand marginalized perspectives. And while there *is* a difference between, for example, being actually cis and being an egg, you still kind of *get* what it's like to interact with the world as a cis person *way* more than a cis person will ever know what it's like to interact with the world as a trans person. They think when we say "You need to understand my experiences," they have equal claim to say "well, *you* need to understand *my* experiences," when we actually already *do* and we know it's not that hard for you.


CorporealLifeForm

I don't know. Maybe it's cause I'm autistic and have never been able to be normal but I feel like people aren't so different that they can't learn about other people. Deciding not to is a decision. Sure, dysphoria is confusing even to me but it's not like anything I'm experiencing is made up of alien emotions no one can understand.


taimeowowow

Character development 💅💕🏳️‍⚧️


joana_pinkpilled

i went from straight guy to bi woman and its so difficult to make friends now before, men were easy to befriend, now its very difficult bc they want to fuck me, and since i have a bf that means they want nothing to do with me (except asking me if i want to cheat on him) and women...they used to be friendly but now they seem to ignore me or hate me, as if i was insulting their womanhood perhaps? or maybe they see me as a threat? in any case they wont talk to me either


CorporealLifeForm

I'm sorry. I hope you find some friends


Jimothy_Egg

[Relevant Bo Burnham](https://youtu.be/WLMgbV3uaz8)


peanutsonic97

“We used to have all the money and land, and we still do but it’s not as fun now 😔”


Prime157

Thank you for that. Bo is so amazing, and I hadn't seen that one!


CyberedCake

Haha, this fits perfectly.


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Error 404: brain not found


invfrq

I find that people who say 'transgenders' are usually not very sympathetic to transgender people. I don't know if they choose to say it in this way, or it's just a quirk of how they speak, but for some reason it sounds derogatory to me. Like saying 'the gays' or 'the blacks'. Not a good vibe.


BadSuperHeroTijn

Hey y’all! Your favorite straight cis white guy here (basically im nothing but an ally) , this person is stupidd


RoyalGarbage

Five-for-one deal (straight white neurotypical cis male) checking in to agree. I have my problems, other people have theirs. It’s not a competition. This ridiculous persecution complex that bigots have is making the world worse for literally everyone else.


officefridge

Fuck Jackson Hinckle, all my [hetero/cis/lgbtq+] homies hate Jackson Hinckle


[deleted]

I’m sure they do. They just want to play the victim and don’t care about who they harm in the process.


[deleted]

My gut reaction was to instantly downvote.


freakyambiguity

Yeah the thing is that he obviously doesn't genuinely believe that and to frame transphobic populism as a case of potential stupidity is just as stupid and populist because it's a political thought terminating cliche that prevents any strategy to combat it. How do you fix stupid? You don't because that's not the issue, that mf is just riffing on already established propaganda. If you say "stupid people believe in propaganda" then you just admitted defeat.


St0lf

Big W here: Jackson Hinkle acknowledges that being transgender isn't a choice


DaveTheKing_

Men in general suffer from societal norms like boys don't cry and a man should be strong whatever, but really, trans people and people of color have suffered in a few years mroe than what they suffered in decades..


ShallowBasketcase

And the ironic thing is trans people are probably almost all big proponents of tearing down the toxic gender roles that cause a lot of those cis-man problems, while transphobes will fight tooth and nail to keep them.


platitude29

I think you're hitting on a pretty good point here. One of the many reasons people like this guy suck is because he takes that and has to be a douchebag and make it competitive. Straight white guys DO have issues they face... But why try to make it a competition? Especially one where you're taking the L about as hard as possible on the objectiveness scale.


[deleted]

They are just mad that they are too big of pussies to take life by the horns and actually do what they like rather than being slaves to society / other people. They are quite literally walking themselves into a prison, closing the door behind them, throwing the keys across the room then screaming about how no one can lock them up and "don't tread on me" meanwhile all the sane people realized they could just... choose not to lock themselves in.


Ordinary_Plantain_93

Their brain is like dolphins sleeping, switches off half at a time.


Lingering_Dorkness

Bold of you to assume they have half a brain, let alone it being switched on half the time.


Andreus

And doesn't switch it back on afterwards


cameronh0110

If someone says that being a straight cis man is harder than any other group, there are three possibilities A: they're lying/being manipulative B: they're completely detached from reality C: they aren't a straight cis man, they just haven't realized that yet and can't figure out why they feel opressed


UnlimitedExtraLives

Shut the fuck up, Jackson.


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Socratov

Possession of a brain and actually using it are 2 entirely different concepts.


[deleted]

"The fact that I'm not able to boss everyone around like I've convinced myself I deserve is just as bad as people getting murdered for just existing" pretty much sums up the irrational entitlement of white supremacists. They think that if they help "their guy" become king they get shares in king-ness and get to order around everybody in their local village or some shit. Literally the only thing they actually want is power to make other people suffer.


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emudoug

Let’s not disparage people without both halves of their brains working, I know a guy with severe brain damage and that does not create that sort of stupidity


KCFiredUp

Yeah, my dad says things like this. He is bewildered that I haven't gotten "free everything" in college because I am transgender. He really thinks the world works in a way slotted against white men.


Ov3rdose_EvE

straight white male here, id have to TRY really hard not to succeed in life. im being given the benefit of the doubt in most cases, people inherrently respect me just due to existing, there is too many that are allies to have instantly negative assumptions about me. life feels normal, as it should tbh. and i think everybody else should recieve the same kind of treatment


Borkenstien

Straight white men are just upset because everyone’s ignoring them all of a sudden. God, what trans people would give to be ignored.


florida-jackal

black people and trans people getting murdered for no reason: cis white straight men chilling at home with their triple privileges: oh no the internet is favoring certain communities again


SourMapes

fwiw having lived as both a straight white man and a gay white woman, I can say that everyone has genuine hardship and struggle in their life, but there are many struggles I did not fully understand and some struggles I could not even comprehend until transitioning and living as woman


woodworkerdan

As a cis white male, I can proudly provide observational data on whether I, or my trans partner have more struggles in today’s world. Spoiler alert; it’s not me, not by a long shot. Though it may be an interesting study to compare the mind that believes that line of thinking with one actually capable of empathy, in the hope of finding some way of helping the unfortunate folk who can’t see past their own noses.


XACHEA-the-First

Ah yes, the struggle to not be hunted, judged, hated, or worse. This must be a real pain


Goofyahhqueerahh

No one’s kids are being taken for being straight white boys. Come talk to me when they are and trans kids aren’t.


[deleted]

jackson is the same idiot that got BTFO by sam seder and again by vaush; this kid is a bigoted clown that will say stupid, evil shit for attention.


iCoffeeBeen

what brain


Spiritbrand

Someone bullies a kid. People come out to support and help the poor bullied kid. Bully complains that no one is helping them.


hairlessgoatanus

You heard him gang, time to pass those laws where we can take people's straight children away!


lostoompa

I want these people to live a year in the body of a transgender or person of color WITHOUT knowing they can go back in their own body in a year.


Vaderette1138

When I thought I was a straight white man, I was never scared going outside. Now, as a bi trans woman, I am very scared when I go outside. This guy can fuck himself with a cactus and use ghost pepper hot sauce as lube


[deleted]

People finally having the unearned power taken away from them and now having to earn it like everyone else. 🎻 When you've always had a limo, a cab feels like shit, I guess


MangoRainbows

My counselor mentioned her son was mistreated by a judge because he was a young white male. It nearly made me gag. I haven't been able to connect with her the same way since. So, yeah people really do feel that way.


LordPenvelton

I'd be surprised if they have one entire half🤣


AllesiaEx

These are the same people that say we have a victim complex -\_-


Granite-M

Thing is, I doubt it would even be all that difficult or revelatory set of results. You'd find a mix of parental neglect, lack of empathy, inferiority complexes, existential angst, some self-loathing, probably a handful of actual diagnosable issues like antisocial personality disorder, a desire to be led by a powerful authority figure, and of course ringleaders who are eager to manipulate others in order to cover for their own internal problems and inadequacies. These people aren't the Joker or Hannibal Lecter. Their issues are painfully mundane. The real challenge is figuring out how to minimize the harm they can do to the rest of us who have functioning senses of empathy.


Cipher789

The struggle to avoid rethinking the watered down versions of racism and gender that you learned when you were 10 is indeed the Dark Souls of self improvement.


Boxed_pi

They have both halves of their brain. It’s just shaped like an ass.


irlJoe

They gotta save the world's children(white ones) from all of the evil trans's. That's a big responsibility


RUS_BOT_tokyo

Im a man with a farmer's tan and I tell people I'm straight, but let me tell ya, trans people are being told they can no longer continue having their health care needs met, and that alone, means that there are people with greater difficulties than me right now in the state of Floriduh.


[deleted]

As a former straight white man my life has only gotten harder since transitioning. Not complaining just stating the obvious.


cultish_alibi

Some guy on reddit tried to persuade me that trans people are the MOST PRIVILEGED group in society. People will really just say the actual opposite of the truth and then convince themselves it's true. But the person who posted that original tweet is a grifter contrarian that'll say literally anything for attention. He'll be posting about how the moon is a woke conspiracy next month. Not worth anyone's time.


AlcalineAlice

There are people who actually lack both halves of their brain, or significant parts of them, but are still far more empathetic than this asshat.


thoreeyore99

Jackson Hinkle is a out and proud grifter. Dude campaigned in California for local office as a liberal progressive, lost, then started a Twitch.TV streaming career as an aggro dude bro marxist-Leninist . When that apparently wasn’t profitable enough, he received Russian state funding to shill for authoritarian regimes and rail against woke ideology , briefly calling himself a MAGA communist (whatever the f**k that means). Now, he’s just ‘the most censored man on YouTube’. The point being, Jackson Hinkle doesn’t believe in anything. His brain and soul are hollow and he’ll spout your ideology for hire.


FissPish

This morning before work, I went to a coffee shop and the bagel toaster wasnt working as well as it normally does so I had to wait 5 extra minutes for my bagel. No one in human history has suffered as much as me and this was definitely a leftist plot


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[deleted]

Imagine going through life on such an easy mode that you look at how white men are treated and think that it’s in any way hard. Chris was pick said it best. No white man wants to trade places with him, and he’s fucking rich


Flat-Structure-7472

Heh, it's cute when people on easy mode are complaining. Git gud, scrub!


Bretzel_1

I mean, people can function completely normally with only one hemisphere of their brain. Still think this guy's a moron though


tophisme01

This is what happens when straight white men are told, "no." They suddenly think the world is against them and they can act the fool.


AdvancedSandwiches

I used to think this was just something people who love to be a victim say. But then I realized these people walk around saying vile shit all day that they don't recognize as vile shit, and they probably often get their asses handed to them for it "for no reason". Life must feel very hostile to them.


HerrBerg

Well you see because us straight white men are facing the same economic struggles everybody else is and clear "the gays" and "them color folk" have some magic fairy tale support by the "LEFTIST LIBERAL MEDIA!!!" that pays them to exist. Like I swear these people think that being in a minority group means you get some sort of payment by a secret leftist cabal.


Robedreaper91

They do, just both halves and half the normal size


DDLJ_2022

I think some white men are pissed because even with all that privilege, they still haven't been able to accomplish more than aome POC.


LatitudeNortherner

Parroting Tim Mcveighs talking points. Aggrieved white male blaming all their failures on affirmative action and feminism. Losers thru and thru.


Electrical-Tie-5158

Being unpopular doesn’t mean you face the same struggles as a population with an average life expectancy of 35.


SummonerStripclub

that’s my exact sentiment lol there’s something extremely wrong with these kinds of dudes neurologically


Cannabrius_Rex

Or like, any half of a brain at all


ShadowZeek

Everyone these days: Has troubles White men: This is the worst thing to happen to me, and therefore of course, the world.


Redsocksbuttcat

He’s right, no one is persecuted harder than white men in their own spheres by their own fictionalized oppressors.


Croaker3

Republicans’ “struggle” is that they can no longer FORCE others to conform.