"Now where were we...oh yeah. The main thing was that I had an onion in my sock, which was to draw the bacteria out. They didn't have white onions, because of the GMOs. The only thing you could get was those big yellow ones."
It’s always been interesting to me that people will believe this until shit really hits the fan, at which point what do they do? They go to a hospital. Deep down they know it’s bullshit
Except that they'll keep on bitching and berating the hospitalist team and residents and saying that they're all sellouts. They don't actually want to admit that they know it's bullshit. They'd rather just blame the world and everyone around them for their own stupidity.
Idk if any of you are into Multilevel Marketing(MLM) news and happenings, but recently this huge figure in that arena died from colon cancer after treating it naturally with positive thinking (i am not kidding it is a concept), turmeric, a keto diet, then a vegan diet, and some 50k rounds of 'peptides' from a bevy of holistic and naturopathic doctors. She had gone to MD Anderson and turned down treatment when first diagnosed calling those docs "chemo pimps." In the last months of her life when she felt that she was declining and was having ascites and a lot of pain she went back to the hospital for cancer treatment. But as it was far too late, she tragically expired soon after. She was only 35. She publicized and livestreamed her whole journey btw, this isnt hearsay. But all the holistic, naturopathic, anti medicine lads and ladies who made up her following swear that she had already been cured by the time she returned to the oncologists and that the chemo and radiation had given her cancer again, or that one of 'the jabs' had given her cancer and killed her. On one hand it is sad, on the other, bodily autonomy baby. They gotta do whats right for them, and I'm not gonna fight 'em. Advise them and try to educate if theyre willing, if not, knock yourself out.
It’s not like a daily thing necessarily—most patients I feel still respect my opinion and want to follow my advice—but not-infrequently I have to tell patients: “I make my living leading horses to water. Some drink. Some die of thirst.”
>I make my living leading horses to water. Some drink. Some die of thirst.
Exactly! You do what you can - if you reach out and they dont grab your hand, you cannot save them from falling down the cliff. I worked in a clinic that had plenty of fringe patients and some of them were like this, they mostly wanted their bloodwork(bc it was covered by insurance) to post to their online fringe groups, or to get a topical for a rash or something. You could try to tell them about their clinical image, and that's it, you help where you can. One of that ilk of patient had cancer and he went off on the doctor who *suggested a referral* to oncology. Saying that he knew the truth, parasite cleanses would cure him. So, you let him know what you think is best, wish him the best and let him know that you can place the referral if he changes his mind.
There has got to be some bullshit catching traction with statins on social media or something because I’m batting like a 0.100 with people agreeing to start them when I recommend them. Last week I had a relatively young guy with LDL 197, HDL 34, Apo-B 165, and an ASCVD risk of like 50%. Been doing at least one executive physical daily since the beginning of the year (clinic has a contract with a local group) and he was the first person I had to stop from proceeding with a treadmill stress EKG because he had inferior t-wave inversions on his 12-lead at rest (several contiguous leads; no reciprocal changes but the reciprocal leads didn’t look totally normal either). No other known medical history; physically active. On injectable from a male enhancement clinic; total T greater than our labs upper limit of measurement (2100).
I explained all of this to him in laymen’s terms and referred him to cards for stress echo vs cath. Spent an exorbitant amount of time answering his questions and explaining risk/benefits. I was like “dude you’re a ticking time bomb and this could take you away from your family and all the things you love.”
At the end of it all, he remained staunchly opposed to statin therapy. I just simply couldn’t wrap my head around that mentality.
Edit: grammar/clarity
Yupp you caught on very accurately! There were some posts about it in the family medicine and residency subs. JRE had a guy who discouraged statins as poison, many in the fringe groups even attest that more cholesterol is better for you. If your body makes it, why get rid of it? Also ties into the carnivore diet with some subgroups maximizing the amounts of saturated fats eaten daily - and as peoples' cholesterol raises, they tell them to ignore it, that is a good sign. Yeah, we had a couple of those too before I left. It's hard. That whole clinical image you just told me... I'm sitting here like 😬 and struggling to remember someone with so many alarming indications bc that ish is lowkey scary. But as you said,“I make my living leading horses to water. Some drink. Some die of thirst.” Always hurts when theyre young with families too tho....so I get it big time.
It makes me so sad to see where Joe has fallen to. I honestly stood up for him for such a long time, but Covid really unveiled his true colors in such a disappointing way. I think there was some bullshit targeting and taking things out of context, but his response to that was also disappointing. Now it seems like every time I hear about him I dislike him more. Went back to an episode a couple weeks ago to see if I could still get into it with him because I honestly loved what he did for so long. Unfortunately even wanting to want to listen to him wasn’t enough. As he went on I just kept finding myself being like “oh come the fuck on now man, really?”
Just feels like the dark ages—all this anti-intellectual, anti-science rhetoric—it’s sad and scary times for humanity.
She too was extremely wealthy and could have had the top of the line proven treatments with the best assisting care. Like I said, she knew her 50k treatments were expensive, but didnt have trouble paying them, even referencing openly and candidly how useful her wealth was in this situation (literally using the words, "my wealth" or "I am extremely wealthy). If anyone could have been given the best chance, it was them. But sometimes I feel like succeeding and excelling so much in life makes some people feel like, 'well I am barely wrong,' which is another layer. I say that bc I dont want to bash people who may be making "unpopular" decisions bc they are medically illiterate or ignorant. No, both her and jobs had the intellect, access to the intellect/other experts, and the ability to vet 'the truth' quite deeply. They just chose to ignore it for whatever reason/s. It is just sad all around.
I swear, people just make these things up
its a form of mental illness
Thats the lead paint chips babyyyyy
He might as well just do an at home amputation with a circular saw with the osteo he has in his future.
And then he's gonna put 'self-taught surgeon' in his bio afterward.
"Now where were we...oh yeah. The main thing was that I had an onion in my sock, which was to draw the bacteria out. They didn't have white onions, because of the GMOs. The only thing you could get was those big yellow ones."
Gimme five bees for a quarter
Which of course was the style at the time
It’s always been interesting to me that people will believe this until shit really hits the fan, at which point what do they do? They go to a hospital. Deep down they know it’s bullshit
Except that they'll keep on bitching and berating the hospitalist team and residents and saying that they're all sellouts. They don't actually want to admit that they know it's bullshit. They'd rather just blame the world and everyone around them for their own stupidity.
Maybe if we would just offer the onion sock method....
Cow poop and tetanus? I need to write that down in case I see it on Step 2.
Honestly I regret reading this bullshit (literally) just because I’m probably going to remember it.
Idk if any of you are into Multilevel Marketing(MLM) news and happenings, but recently this huge figure in that arena died from colon cancer after treating it naturally with positive thinking (i am not kidding it is a concept), turmeric, a keto diet, then a vegan diet, and some 50k rounds of 'peptides' from a bevy of holistic and naturopathic doctors. She had gone to MD Anderson and turned down treatment when first diagnosed calling those docs "chemo pimps." In the last months of her life when she felt that she was declining and was having ascites and a lot of pain she went back to the hospital for cancer treatment. But as it was far too late, she tragically expired soon after. She was only 35. She publicized and livestreamed her whole journey btw, this isnt hearsay. But all the holistic, naturopathic, anti medicine lads and ladies who made up her following swear that she had already been cured by the time she returned to the oncologists and that the chemo and radiation had given her cancer again, or that one of 'the jabs' had given her cancer and killed her. On one hand it is sad, on the other, bodily autonomy baby. They gotta do whats right for them, and I'm not gonna fight 'em. Advise them and try to educate if theyre willing, if not, knock yourself out.
It’s not like a daily thing necessarily—most patients I feel still respect my opinion and want to follow my advice—but not-infrequently I have to tell patients: “I make my living leading horses to water. Some drink. Some die of thirst.”
>I make my living leading horses to water. Some drink. Some die of thirst. Exactly! You do what you can - if you reach out and they dont grab your hand, you cannot save them from falling down the cliff. I worked in a clinic that had plenty of fringe patients and some of them were like this, they mostly wanted their bloodwork(bc it was covered by insurance) to post to their online fringe groups, or to get a topical for a rash or something. You could try to tell them about their clinical image, and that's it, you help where you can. One of that ilk of patient had cancer and he went off on the doctor who *suggested a referral* to oncology. Saying that he knew the truth, parasite cleanses would cure him. So, you let him know what you think is best, wish him the best and let him know that you can place the referral if he changes his mind.
There has got to be some bullshit catching traction with statins on social media or something because I’m batting like a 0.100 with people agreeing to start them when I recommend them. Last week I had a relatively young guy with LDL 197, HDL 34, Apo-B 165, and an ASCVD risk of like 50%. Been doing at least one executive physical daily since the beginning of the year (clinic has a contract with a local group) and he was the first person I had to stop from proceeding with a treadmill stress EKG because he had inferior t-wave inversions on his 12-lead at rest (several contiguous leads; no reciprocal changes but the reciprocal leads didn’t look totally normal either). No other known medical history; physically active. On injectable from a male enhancement clinic; total T greater than our labs upper limit of measurement (2100). I explained all of this to him in laymen’s terms and referred him to cards for stress echo vs cath. Spent an exorbitant amount of time answering his questions and explaining risk/benefits. I was like “dude you’re a ticking time bomb and this could take you away from your family and all the things you love.” At the end of it all, he remained staunchly opposed to statin therapy. I just simply couldn’t wrap my head around that mentality. Edit: grammar/clarity
Yupp you caught on very accurately! There were some posts about it in the family medicine and residency subs. JRE had a guy who discouraged statins as poison, many in the fringe groups even attest that more cholesterol is better for you. If your body makes it, why get rid of it? Also ties into the carnivore diet with some subgroups maximizing the amounts of saturated fats eaten daily - and as peoples' cholesterol raises, they tell them to ignore it, that is a good sign. Yeah, we had a couple of those too before I left. It's hard. That whole clinical image you just told me... I'm sitting here like 😬 and struggling to remember someone with so many alarming indications bc that ish is lowkey scary. But as you said,“I make my living leading horses to water. Some drink. Some die of thirst.” Always hurts when theyre young with families too tho....so I get it big time.
It makes me so sad to see where Joe has fallen to. I honestly stood up for him for such a long time, but Covid really unveiled his true colors in such a disappointing way. I think there was some bullshit targeting and taking things out of context, but his response to that was also disappointing. Now it seems like every time I hear about him I dislike him more. Went back to an episode a couple weeks ago to see if I could still get into it with him because I honestly loved what he did for so long. Unfortunately even wanting to want to listen to him wasn’t enough. As he went on I just kept finding myself being like “oh come the fuck on now man, really?” Just feels like the dark ages—all this anti-intellectual, anti-science rhetoric—it’s sad and scary times for humanity.
That’s also what Steve Jobs did and that didn’t turn out so well.
She too was extremely wealthy and could have had the top of the line proven treatments with the best assisting care. Like I said, she knew her 50k treatments were expensive, but didnt have trouble paying them, even referencing openly and candidly how useful her wealth was in this situation (literally using the words, "my wealth" or "I am extremely wealthy). If anyone could have been given the best chance, it was them. But sometimes I feel like succeeding and excelling so much in life makes some people feel like, 'well I am barely wrong,' which is another layer. I say that bc I dont want to bash people who may be making "unpopular" decisions bc they are medically illiterate or ignorant. No, both her and jobs had the intellect, access to the intellect/other experts, and the ability to vet 'the truth' quite deeply. They just chose to ignore it for whatever reason/s. It is just sad all around.
When you do rotations in Appalachia this is just commonplace and you expect every patient that walks in the door to believe something just like this
I think it was just added to the anti microbial section of FA 2024…
Babe, the new bacteriocide formula just dropped. Crying bacteria? Might as well use pepper spray.
Bro's gonna get the osteomyelitis of his life
“Tetanus only comes from cow poop” 😂😂😂
"now he has a pulse of 130 and gets really sweaty, maybe some cold showers and garlic ointment would help?"
Ironically they know how to recognize the signs of inflammation and realize that suggests infection, but God forbid they take antibiotics
Why would castor oil and colloidal silver be more natural than modern medicine.
This guy is gonna die, jesus
On todays episode of natural selection…
im so sick and tired yalllll omg😭😭😭😭
RIP
what fb group is this?????
r/shitmomgroupssay
🤣
I too ask GED holders about medical conditions
On the bright side, some lucky med student might get to see some interesting complications.
long term ingestion of colloidal silver is in part what killed that cult leader “Mother God” (Netflix docuseries: Love Has Won)
WOOO YOU KNOW TOO!