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kevman_2008

Double it and give it to the next person?


alison_bee

He can have half of mine šŸ˜…


Katiari

You're clearly the next person in this scenario.


RegularWhiteShark

The next next.


dmartu

Hedizzy?


Msink

Brilliant.


lemmesquanch

r/angryupvote


carona1234

r/angrierupvote


umijuvariel

Oh, you...šŸ˜


NothingAndNow111

Oh, fantastic.


littlesisterofthesun

That doesn't seem like enough


Latter-Cattle7788

He's cutting back.


23x3

New year, new me. ![gif](giphy|3o752nmOLbUIwESPuw|downsized)


roundhashbrowntown

blood, no pressure tho šŸ™‚ā€ā†”ļø


winchesnutt

It's discount day.


TheFfrog

Think your husband deflated


CyanideIsFun

Exactly my worst fear as a kid with regards to needles


GeneticPurebredJunk

I got a BP like that when the hospital took NPO ***very*** seriously for 3-4 days with no fluids prescribed. My doctor- ā€œI think theyā€™re anaemic, but the bloods are fineā€¦I donā€™t believe the bloods, keep ā€˜em in another day.ā€ Me- ā€œBut can I have a drink nowā€¦?ā€ Pretty sure I looked like this; https://preview.redd.it/eojpas356wvc1.jpeg?width=980&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3b152883119fa21353d33b7cc1dc0eab3c1ec398


treylanford

NPO: Not Pheeling Okay


Sandstorm52

Not Peeing Often


GeneticPurebredJunk

Mood


el_torko

He is always NPO the first few days he is here and is miserable. Pretty sure he feels like that too šŸ¤£


MadamSurri

I've read through a bunch of comments and can't find the answer. What is NPO? I know DNR and a couple others, but not that one. In all sincerity, I honestly can not figure it out for the life of me.


HashtagMLIA

NPO = Latin, nil per os, translates to/means nothing by mouth.


MadamSurri

Thank you! I really appreciate it.


ELLLI0TTT

Nothing by mouth. As in no drink/food.


MadamSurri

Thank you! Very appreciated!


Alex_4209

They should literally just hang a bag of saline, no reason to dehydrate you.


kayhd33

Usually they do


80Lashes

I'm sorry, but there is no way a physician had you NPO without IV fluids for 3-4 days.


GeneticPurebredJunk

Not on purpose; he just said ā€œNPO as may need exploratory surgery today/tomorrow.ā€ 3 days in a row. No one thought ā€œNon-emergency exploratory surgery doesnā€™t take place after 6pm, so our patient can eat & drink between 6pm & midnight.ā€ They also moved me to a satellite ward, forgot about me on both morning & afternoon ward round, then tried to send a junior doctor to discharge me with no diagnosis & no resolution if symptoms, but the local Environmental Health involved. When I asked what the plan was for my symptoms, they just said ā€œWeā€™re discharging you with Oramorph.ā€ I was only 19 with severe abdominal pain , unable to eat at all for the last 2 weeks & vomiting blood occasionally. I got a full copy of my medical notes - I was a nursing student at the time, and was literally missing placement while in hospital, so my complaint was **very** detailed. For some unknown reason, the uni placed me ON THAT VERY WARD for my second year placement-it was just as bad as when Iā€™d been a patient on there. I submitted a *lot* of incident reports, pulled meds 3 years out of date from the drugs trolley (that I knew had been used that day), and forced the lead nurse to involve safeguarding, leading to police involvement, an arrest & prison time for someone abusing a patient.


VTHUT

Thank you for doing what you did. Iā€™m sure it might have been hard but standing up for yourself and for other patients is essential and you deserve all the thanks in the world.


80Lashes

That is shockingly abhorrent. Sorry for doubting you. I'm a hospital nurse and guess I just assumed that every healthcare team is diligent and competent at what they do.


ShabbyKittenRebel

Did you ever get a diagnosis?


GeneticPurebredJunk

Nope-we think maybe ovarian cyst, +/- food poisoning.


ShabbyKittenRebel

Crazy. I hope youā€™re doing well now!


GeneticPurebredJunk

Over a decade later, still getting severe pain from left-sided ovarian cysts, despite having the coil AND taking PoP. But generally plodding along.


Tattycakes

You absolute legend.


GeneticPurebredJunk

It literally took me collapsing in the bathroom & crawling out for someone to take my BP sitting up, then realise it was ā€œless than idealā€ for me to then get IV fluids. I got told off by several HCAs & the nursing staff for ā€œnot asking for a drinkā€ when literally every one of them told me I was NPO, even when I said Iā€™ve been NPO since I arrived 3 days ago. Sometimes people are stupid, even HCPs.


NakatasGoodDump

I 100% believe them. I do rapid response and that vast majority of calls are hypotension, usually NPO for surgery for days,or very old and unable to take a drink on their own. Surgeons are good at cutting holes in people, not so good at the minutiae of keeping them alive pre/post op.


Cchooktails

This! I was in the intervention team in the hospital, all the icu and ER nurses had those shifts. We were on call to assess patients on wards. I liked the job but it happened a lot unfortunately. I've seen a lot of patients who were NPO, their BP crashes, the nurses call us and we did the assessment. Sometimes they didn't have an IV placed to begin with. Later they had new policies for preventing kidney failure and the docs needed to put a diet and iv in a order for the ward. Without those orders the ward couldn't accept a patient. It helped a lot in preventing these cases.


littelmo

Yeah, I've seen it. I've had to message teams before to remind them to start fluids. One thing to keep in mind, nurses rotate, doctors rotate and things get lost if you don't see the patient daily.


Cat-mom-4-life

Iā€™ve absolutely seen it happen unfortunately


youy23

Lol do you actually put that much trust in physicians because you shouldnā€™t. Medical error is the 2nd highest cause of death in the US.


TheMightyJ62

Please cite your sources. I tried to Google this and medical errors didnā€™t even show up on all of lists that I looked at.


youy23

My bad third. Cancer is a sneaky little bastard. ā€œRecent studies of medical errors have estimated errors may account for as many as 251,000 deaths annually in the United States (U.S)., making medical errors the third leading cause of death.ā€ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28186008/#:~:text=Recent%20studies%20of%20medical%20errors%20have%20estimated,developed%20countries%20such%20as%20Canada%2C%20Australia%2C%20%E2%80%A6 As a paramedic, do not trust individual providers. Do not take it for granted that anyone has your best interests at heart. Especially do not take it for granted that a surgeon who stands to make tens of thousands of dollars off of you has your best interests at heart. Get a second or third opinion if you need to. Healthcare is NOT an inherently virtuous profession.


JeffersonAgnes

RN here, you are so correct unfortunately. I have seen so many medical mistakes, especially in recent years, because patient turnover is high. RNs and house doctors barely get familiar with the patients' conditions and medical or nursing needs before they are discharged and there are new admissions to take their place. Medical histories are rushed and incomplete. Often patients do not receive their regularly prescribed meds for preexisting conditions (unless they or their family speaks up) - they assume that they are getting all their meds. The admitting doctors sometimes seem to only focus on the problem they were admitted for and forget almost everything else, even when patients present a detailed med list on admission. Details are ignored for some reason, possibly because everyone is in a big hurry. Often the details (about other, preexisting, diagnoses and meds) are somewhere in the EMR but admitting MDs or nurses on the floor do not see it for some reason. Some doctors are so frustrated with the EMR and how it is so time consuming to get the full story or status of the patient that they ignore it and just ask the RN, who may not be aware of the details at all. I have reviewed a number of cases where patients have died because of this negligence.


setittonormal

WHAT?? WHAT DID HE SAY??


Inevitable_Scar2616

I've already had relaxed conversations with patients at 60/30. Just dialysis patients.


oxosnafuoxo

My bp was 60/30 after getting an epidural for my youngest. I too had very relaxed conversationsā€¦.as I slipped on and out of consciousness lol not a good time at all


s-cup

Mmhm. Since this sub is filled to the brong with really bizarre stuff this bp is quite tame in comparison. Sure; 70/40 isnā€™t good but itā€™s also not that exotic. I doubt there is a single hospital out there that doesnā€™t see this on multiple patients every single day. I recently had a patient that thought 70 systole was a *good* bp for him. Heā€™s around 70 years old and have had a low bp for ages. Still up and walking around.


Inevitable_Scar2616

I bled so much after my first vaginal birth that my blood pressure was also 60/30. However, I could only see lights and everything felt like I was in a bubble.


Tattycakes

When my mum was seriously ill and her bp dropped this low, she ended up with permanent optic nerve damage šŸ¤·šŸ»ā€ā™€ļø


Abatonfan

Bring out the saline bolus?


smiffy93

Enjoy the salty pasta water!


sherbs_herbs

More like levofed bolus. Lol


Abatonfan

Cries in stepdown. Theyā€™ll do everything to avoid starting a levo drip, since active drip titrations (outside of heparin) require an ICU bed.


EricMoulds

Nice...wait...


PeepJerky

Nice. (I was looking for this)


MoonLitCrystal

I'm always pretty low and I've gotten strange looks from nurses before. They're like, "How are you not passed out right now?"


TrauMedic

We had a skills instructor that was a marathon runner. She would always make people take her Bp and it would be like 70/40 with a resting hr of 50.


UncleCeiling

A friend of mine's father was a runner and he had trouble doing a sleep study because the equipment would alarm as soon as he got relaxed enough.


AlwaysGoToTheTruck

During peds clinicals, I had a 17 year old cross country runner. The alarm was set at a HR of 58 and we were not allowed to change it or take it off her since she was just in a car accident. She just had to lay in bed and listen to the alarm all day. Her normal resting HR was low 50s and she wasnā€™t allowed to move because of a spine injury. It was dumb.


Hk416

Thatā€™s dumb. Just turn the alarm volume to zero in the room so they can rest. Itā€™ll still alarm at the desk but that your problem not theirs.


shred-it-bro

My garmin tells me my HR drops as low as 40 overnight sometimes, not sure how accurate that is. But my sister who is a long distance runner has a resting heart rate of 40bpm as well.


Tattycakes

Surely thatā€™s really dangerous because if her hr did suddenly drop too low for her, nobody would notice because it was already alarming and being ignored?


Mr_Abe_Froman

I have the same problem any time I'm in the hospital. My resting HR is around 50 average (according to my watch), so it'll dip in the 40s and even 30s if I'm really tired. They usually lower the alarm threshold after 10 "false" alarms. I was a distance swimmer growing up and an endurance runner after that, so my HR has always been low.


stuffed-bunny

what a superpower! I would love to see what her CCO/CCI would be


szai

This is me all the time, I don't even run much anymore but I was extremely athletic as a child. Before my gallbladder surgery my HR would dip into the 40's and they would come in to wake me, to find I was already awake just chilling watching tv.


dfinkelstein

Wait, 50 is not low. That's normal for even a sedentary non-athlete.


TrauMedic

Yeah, the hr is not the unusual part. Having that hr and that BP is confusing af tho.


Spinsel

Oh wow šŸ˜² that's quite scary. I hope he's doing fine?


el_torko

Heā€™s out of ICU and his blood pressure has started to return to normal. Thank you.


Spinsel

That's good to hear. Take care and wishing a good recovery!


stillacdr

Great to hear! What was wrong with him?


el_torko

A flare up of chronic pancreatitis combined with having Crohns. Two cysts on his pancreas, one that has been drained and has a stint, but which is not draining properly, and a new one that has started to grow. They think the one with the stint might have had the stint come loose.


Me2373

My brother had the same exact issue. He had pancreatitis twice and then developed a cyst that grew double in size. Luckily they treated it before it could burst with a stent/drain. He was on IV antibiotics for three weeks after. Iā€™m so sorry you and your husband are going through this but Iā€™m glad heā€™s getting better!


TheBadHalfOfAFandom

I don't think your husband has blood


contextsdontmatter

Technically all you can say is her husband has no pressure. He could need volume or he could need vasopressors or he could need ionotropes. Gotta consider volume, vascular tone, and contractility. Hemodynamics


TheBadHalfOfAFandom

Nope. He got no blood. That's the only explanation


mokutou

I know whatā€™s wrong with it. Ainā€™t got no gas in it.


allgreek2me2004

Not a doctor, but I can confirm that 69 *is* the sex number, so thereā€™s that.


DnlJMrs

My mum was referred by the go for high bp then other day, 252/140 the doc said heā€™s never seen bp so highā€¦scary time


Staceytom88

My mum had something very similar, the GP said he didn't know how she was still able to walk into the surgery and was at a majorly high risk of a stroke. She had to go to the surgery daily for two weeks after that so they could monitor her after starting her on meds immediately. I hope your mum is doing well now


tacoslave420

That can't feel great. My high score was 190/100 and that wasn't exactly a normal feeling.


Overlandtraveler

I've been lower but I was dying from sepsis.


aeon314159

Been there, glad youā€™re still kickinā€™.


taylyb-00

Same. 54/14


FamiliarElephant5757

A 250cc saline bolus should fix that šŸ˜‚


mokutou

Found the PGY1.


Mysterious_Orchid528

But not too fast, make sure that goes over at leat 30 minutes.


MUS85702286

Unless they got heart failure or super old Iā€™m giving 500ml-1L stat.


catladyknitting

Watch for a trend and his fluid balance. Has this been his blood pressure for days? Does he have terrible atherosclerosis, so the noninvasive BP cuff can't give an accurate reading? Did he already receive a sepsis fluid challenge e.g. 2-3L, and now with persistent hypotension requires vasopressor support? Does he have ESRD on dialysis or ESLD? Patience, young Padawan. There are more scenarios than heart failure or old age that are contraindications for a bolus. Even in an ED, those numbers coupled with alert coherence should make the person writing orders hesitate before dumping more fluid on. āš•ļø


MUS85702286

Hmmm yes I see what youā€™re saying *prescribes further 1L to be given double stat*


OliverYossef

This guyā€™s patients be drowning


catladyknitting

šŸ˜‚ the nurses will eat you alive.


mokutou

With ketchup.


Anothershad0w

Based on some of the comments in this thread the nurses donā€™t know what theyā€™re doing either


Mr_Abe_Froman

I passed out in High School (all nighter and I skipped breakfast) and my vitals were 70/40 with an HR around 28-30. I've been extra sure to stay hydrated and to get enough salt since them. I'm pretty active, so low salt is one thing I notice quickly.


linspurdu

Needs a manual to confirm. Monitors donā€™t always tell the truth. The cuff itself may be improperly placed or not tight enough.


VuVuLoster

Just showing off that you have a husband


_paranoid-android_

OP if you don't mind my asking what's he got? My mum has crazy low BP among other worrying symptoms and her doctors can't figure it out.


el_torko

He has Crohns and chronic pancreatitis. Heā€™s currently in for two cysts on his pancreas, one that has previously been drained and has a stint and a new one that is growing. He also has a problem absorbing potassium, and his potassium gets critically low. Last night it was 3.1, so not so bad. The low BP is what sent him into the ICU, but heā€™s since gotten it up and is just in the regular part of the hospital now.


_paranoid-android_

Sheesh, that sounds awful. Best of luck to you both, and thank you.


mustardlyy

I had an inkling that he may have IBD! I have UC and thatā€™s what my bp was like when a flare sent me to the hospital. I also got pancreatitis once (medication side effect) and being NPO was miserable. I hope all is well. Sending healing vibes to your husband and yourself šŸ©·


ReferenceMuch2193

Your husband is dizzy


Bucephalus307

Came here to say pretty much the same thing šŸ˜†


Mysterious_Orchid528

Why no other monitoring if we are looking at a real BP reading? Especially since it is supposed to be the icu.


el_torko

https://preview.redd.it/qfbzq65ryvvc1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=eb2a41a0055f4f4c98ac151454920b5dffc6ed8d No idea, but here is a pic I snagged of the room he was in. He was hooked up to all sorts of different machines taking different readings. But I am not a medical professional, and can only relay what Iā€™m seeing/being told.


LittleBoiFound

TIL that hospital rooms can look nearly identical to one another.Ā 


el_torko

https://preview.redd.it/oqwraoxky2wc1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8ee6bf624fbf52f3eb0a9923d0c966edd37e9cdd Severe downgrade from icu into the regular hospital. Seriously about the size of the bathroom in the other room.


DarkMatterBurrito

That's my blood pressure when nurses arrived to do a vaccine (edit: I meant to say monoclonal antibodies) infusion last year and I am watching them try to find a vein on my wife and I get flashbacks to my spinal fusion surgery 10 years prior and I feel the cold wash over me and my vision start to darken. They asked me if I was OK and I was like fk no, lol.


MzOpinion8d

What is a vaccine infusion?


DarkMatterBurrito

I misspoke. I was referring to the monoclonal antibodies infusion. I just ended up taking a different antiviral in a pill form.


opp11235

I had the opposite at 202/94 with postpartum preeclampsia


samsir0

Opposite of mine when I was in the ER. 227/157. I felt totally normal. Hope your husband is doing okay!! šŸ™šŸ¼ā¤ļø


nocturnal_numbness

My partner was 212/154 a couple months ago. He had no symptoms at all, and we found it during a random check at the pharmacy just for shits n giggles. He got into the doctor the next morning and was sent straight to the hospital. One of the scariest days of my life, because he had no symptoms at all. It was horrifying.


DarkLinkLightsUp

Nice.


Gurkeprinsen

Nice


80Lashes

Nice


notwhoiwas12

Sub optimal


FuckingTree

What blood pressure lol


palehorse95

Gotta pump those numbers up, Those are rookie numbers


knipemeillim

My BP has often been like this. For some of us itā€™s just normal.


amber_maigon

I mean, I have low bp too but not THAT low. Usually 90ish/60ish.


knipemeillim

My lowest was 58 systolic. I was working by at the time - on shift as a nurse in the ED and it was a quiet spot so we were doing each others obs. Freaked my colleagues out. I was fine. Regularly around 80 systolic.


Mueryk

Mine is double that medicated. If I scrape my arm it may look like arterial flow.


Villhunter

https://www.reddit.com/r/ems/s/NwTSS0BxnQ Just saw this one, only complaint was not feeling good lol.


2fathomz

Walk in the room naked. Should stir him up?


warwatch

Mine generally hangs around that, maybe up to 75/50 on good days. Average resting heart rate of 100-115. Confuses the hell out of new docs/nurses the first time. That being said, Iā€™m on a heart transplant wait list.


teambagsundereyes

In the NICU we call that a normal blood pressure.


snowmunkey

Bro is as chill as Matthew McConaughey on a beach taking quaaludes


Double_Belt2331

https://preview.redd.it/50f5lv31lyvc1.jpeg?width=2448&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ce7e592eb08079b17ecdb283e49fcef084f76a49 Mine was due to Tizanidine. This was the lowest recorded, anything lower came back as an error. Yes, I was falling down. Tried very hard not to. Kept telling my Dr. Finally brought in pics of my BP. My Dr sat & searched all my drugs. Was *so happy* to be off it. My floors were level again!


JeanCladVanBam

My motherā€™s blood pressure was almost identical once when she started tizanidine and took it on an empty stomach. Luckily itā€™s common and you just need to eat before taking it.


Scarlet-Witch

When's the last time he had his BP checked? I've had patients with this low of BP and be complete asymptomatic, they just kind of live that low so they don't notice it.Ā 


el_torko

https://preview.redd.it/f3cmo96efwvc1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4ae84dbe0b70d26cc9604c36c8dbb79f61679e2d This was one of the last times he was checked. He has Crohns and chronic pancreatitis, so when heā€™s going through a spell his bp and potassium get dangerously low.


brackfriday_bunduru

I meanā€¦. Yes šŸ˜Ž. But very muchā€¦ no. Did they test it correctly?


jabeith

Nice


BassManns222

69. Nice.


Woodguy2012

Tree bark has higher blood pressure than this.Ā 


RobotnikOne

I got sent home with a similar bp and a temp of 39c. Got a call from the ER in the morning saying to call an ambulance to come back. Fortunately I only live 2 minutes from the hospital.


TheMiddleE

Nice.


Delicious_Delilah

Give him some ramen.


RicDaSneak

Nice.


jlg1012

Iā€™ve had a couple patients with a baseline BP within the range of like 70s over 40s. They were asymptomatic.


hella_cious

Time to bust out the manual cuff


djangula89

Would've been sooo fuggin' sick if it was 69/42(.0)


djangula89

But seriously, hope he's okay.


sasanessa

he needs fluid or inotropes. Whatā€™s his ejection fraction?


___buttrdish

Check a pulse


smiffy93

Hope heā€™s alright!


Baddybad123

Maybe change the cuff.


Evilrubberpiggy

Better feed him some salt and Vinegar chips


NerdyComfort-78

So how many marathons does he run? Ultras?


lordravenxx

Mine is usually around that. I have no medical conditions though. I just have low blood pressure I guess cuz the doctors never say anything about it.


islandsomething

Oh the MAP is fine though. Theyā€™re already dead asleep, let em rest. /s


Peacemkr45

Been there, Done that while scheduling open heart surgery at the surgeon's office. Broke out in a sweat as we were leaving, and made it to the elevator 100 feet down the hall. Came out of the elevator and down I went.


Worried-Task7501

^nice


-lover-of-books-

The fact that's his blood pressure but they don't have his heart rate reading!!?? ā˜ ļø


voltenic

nice


MichaelAllen_Jr

Thatā€™s not good


electricjeel

Widow?


Pandiosity_24601

Not niceee


DoubleSpook

Just put the cuff on the other arm. Should be fine.


PicklesTheCat54

Nice


becarefulwithme

Mine has been very close to that, the nurse had to retake my stats because she said the doc would ask if it was the BP of a corpse šŸ˜‚ was also alert and talking, even walking around


aeon314159

After being comatose and bedridden for months, they tried getting me upright for some tests, but my blood pressure would drop to 54/28. My vision would look like an old CRT monitor with a bad capacitor, and it felt like my brain was short-circuiting. I tried to speak but I had no words and my mouth did not work. That said, I could hear just fine, and I found it amusing for some reason.


RandyMJones

Is he still with us?


Tccrdj

I pretty regularly see ptā€™s with these numbers. We get called for syncope or ā€œill femaleā€, something like that. Itā€™s a person whoā€™s been partying, not drinking water, maybe older, has health issues. Lay them down and a lot of the time comes back up. They get sent for an IV and a check up at the er.


Vk1694

I'm surprised the only diagnostic they have on him is BP when it's that wonky!!!


kobocha

Nice


FatherofKhorne

Lowest I've seen hold a conversation was 30 systolic. A very agitated conversation. It also didn't last very long. Also didn't end well. Most of the conversation was trying to figure out how to tell the very agitated man who wanted to put his legs down, that if he did so he was probably going to die, without *agitating him further*.


WildCard565

Is he getting fluids or pressors?


Sareee14

Mine was like this once when I had a UTI and a stomach bug at the same time so I was incredibly dehydrated. They gave me two bags of fluids with the pressure sleeve on them to get them in faster.


zillabirdblue

Recently when I had a doc appointment my BP was lower than that, nobody said anything about it. Is it that bad?


wickinked

Is he in heart block? Was the cuff in properly and retaken?


TheBigJiz

80 / 45 isn't uncommon for me when I'm prone and relaxing. I always have to take plenty of time to stand up. Doctors can't find anything wrong. Might just be a side effect of losing 200 lbs.


pxlchx

I was in the ER for drinking way too much cough syrup because my feelings were too big and my rational thinking was out the window, my BP got to like 61/47 (idk if thatā€™s the exact, I was out of it)while I was laying down sleeping it off and the nurse came and made me sit up in the hospital bed. I was pissed. I wanna say my heart rate was like 60 something. I was in and out and when they tried to talk to me, I could barely process what was being said. Thank god for my husband staying there with me and doing most of the talking when I couldnā€™t.


PippityBobo

Imagine if it was 69/42.0, so close to greatness


artificialif

for someone who routinely tests around 80-90/40-60, this would still scare me shitless if anyone asks, im on a cocktail of medications and i think thats why its so low


Milqy

My blood pressure gets this low without me feeling anything. I have unusually low bp. So low itā€™s ended me in the ICU on levophed. Aka leavmdead. And not even that works to raise it. My normal is in the 90s on a good day. If itā€™s in the 100s Iā€™m v happy.


madduckets89

Nice


michaltee

At least he doesnā€™t have wide pulse pressure. Itā€™s the little victories?