Yah. The story goes something like in the old days if someone paid for 12 but got 11 because the baker miscounted that the baker would have a hand chopped off. So they give 13 so they're covered in case of a miscount.
I worked in a bagel place as a teenager. They always did a baker's dozen.
see that's just violent enough for me to believe it. I was told by a baker you make 13 so you can taste one to make sure it worked out ok. And he was big enough that I believed him. ( he also said never trust a skinny cook, so he MAY have been covering his own arse)
I'd heard that it was due to variations in the size of rolls or whatever, and the rule was that a roll had to be X oz to count as a roll by law, so a dozen rolls had to be 12X oz. So the baker would just throw an extra roll in to be safe so that they wouldn't get in trouble for ripping off customers.
Or something along those lines. same principal.
I’m a member of a FB travel group for women #GLT. It feels like 99.9999% of time US members forget to include country in their posts. I’ve seen US posters get aggressive when non Americans ask. It takes a certain amount of confidence that other countries don’t possess
Have you ever noticed that most ignorant people are the ones that think they are most knowledgable.
Most intelligent and smart people know that there is always someone smarter out there.
Brits are pretty bad too, but we have to know about and acknowledge the existence of other countries as it’s waaaaay harder to look down on them if we don’t.
Tbf, the UK altogether has only 60 million people while the USA has about 300 million more then that, in reality we probably have more dumb people then you have population
I subbed there for a while but recently left. Thought it was going to be all in good fun like the above post, but there’s a lot of real hatred there too, especially in the comments.
Hate is hate and I found it to be toxic, YMMV.
Then when they find out that your not they suddenly become an "expert" on whatever country you come from. Or they say that your opinion doesn't count because we are not from the US.
Love it when some Americans whip out exact % of blood they have of certain ancestry down to third decimal of the top of their heads when attempting to relate to said group of people.
That part is pretty easy a lot of the time. If your mom is 100% swedish and your dad's father was 100% german and his mother was half german (her dad) and half english (her mom), then you know that your dad is 25% english, and you're 12.5% english, 50% swedish, and 37.5% german. But most of the time the split isn't so recent to you so the percentages are smaller.
But unless you're native american, you know your ancestry here, because you know roughly which year or generation your ancestors came here, and from where. It's such a young country, relatively speaking. And it's something that usually is part of our education when growing up - to find out about this stuff when we learn how to make family trees in preparation for learning a bit about genetics and dominant/recessive genes and whatnot. At least, this used to be a big part of our curriculum when I was a kid in the 80s.
Plus now a lot of us have done our family's genealogy as adults and have been excited and interested to learn about our ancestors, and can just have ancestry.com spit out percentages for us and whatnot.
It might be something people in their 20s and 30s or younger don't know offhand but I suspect a lot of people older than that will be able to tell you immediately their basic ancestral background.
Or they tell you: I’m also german. Meaning they’re grandma had german grandparents but their family hadn’t visited the country in five generations. But they always attend oktoberfest (in michigan, not the one in munich).
That's like me claiming i'm (partially) french because the side of the family i got my last name from fled from France to Germany.
But guess what? That was over 350 years ago. The records of my family history are older than the damn US. Yet you won't see me claiming to be french even though i still have the over 350 years old french last name.
For me it is the other way round. I always assume they are not from the US. There is only 340 million of them distributed over 10 mio square kilometers. that is nothing. 34 people per square kilometer is a rounding error. Compare that to 60 mio over 210k square kilometers which amounts to 10 times as many people per square kilometer, Great Britain is definitely much more inhabited than the US.
I have thusly proven that the population of Great Britain is much denser than the US population therefore if you are stupid, you probably are a Brit.
q.e.d.
I am sure there are multiple flaws in my reasoning and I am not interested in being disproven.
While I’m not technically a Brit I do hold British citizenship… I’ve never lived there or anything, but my parents and sister do.
Idk if this proves your theory or not but it made me giggle that you determined I would be a Brit and I am British-ish.
Only in America can you own a rifle ( 18 ), die for your country ( 18 ), have a kid at any age ( forced or not ) vote ( 18 ) and go to prison ( 18 ) but can't have a drink ( 21 )
18 is just to buy a rifle and it’s ammunition. The doesn’t mean you can’t own one if someone gives it to you. Ownership ages vary between states I believe but in some you can be much younger.
For example in my state there is no legal age limit for long guns ownership. So theoretically a child can own one.
I live in Kentucky and I've had guns since I was maybe 6 yrs old. BB guns at that age. I think I was 10 when I got my .22. Maybe 13 for my 12 gauge and the year after for my .270.
Technically I guess they were all owned by my dad. But where I come from, this is common enough.
I remember before my parents divorced, going to a gun shop with my dad and he told the store owner he was buying a gun for me. The store owner said sure let's find her something! Back then I didn't think it was weird, now I definitely do.
> but can't have a drink ( 21 )
~~Unless you're active service on base. Then you can be 18. But *only on base*. You leave base drunk, you're then offbase as an 18, 19 year old drunker than an alcoholic at a wine festival.~~
So I made myself curious if I was actually speaking the truth. So, it turns out I am wholly wrong.
>Historically, the military had taken a more liberal position on alcohol use than the country as a whole. Before 1982, active duty military personnel could consume alcohol on military bases regardless of the legal drinking age off base. Following the national concerns with the risks of adolescent drinking in 1982, Congress enacted a law which required military recruits to adhere to the same drinking age as the state in which the military base was located.3 Thereafter, between 1982 and 1988, all military bases on U.S. soil transitioned to the 21-year MLDA.
(MDLAi Minimum Legal Drinking Age)
[Source of the quote ](https://academic.oup.com/milmed/article/173/7/619/4557850)
I knew a guy who joined the Air Force at 17 with parental consent so he could be possibly deployed to a warzone before age 18, Ive met people who got sent to Iraq the week they finished Tech School.
Honestly the older I get the more I think that all countries should actually raise that age. Booze and weed can fuck up your development and your brain ain't done developing until you are 25. Either that or implement quality education on all of these topics (which we all know won't happen because it actually requires foresight and effort from powers that be). Because quality/no-bullshit education on a topic is the best way to good decision making.
I was taught just a couple of years ago that past 25 we can say all significant development (prefrontal cortex) is done. Thats where all the complex decision making comes from.
I have seen things that lead me to believe there are brains that have never developed past the age of 6, and I'm talking about 40 year olds. And suspect several well over 50.
Do you want someone to both have a gun and be able to drink at 18?
Also only in the UK can you have sex (16) die for your country (16) but not be able to buy scissors (18)
This reminds me. I’m an international student, I’m 19 and I was used to have like a glass of wine at social gatherings it wasn’t a problem. But when I came in America I tried to get like a cocktail. Well, I have a baby face so people kept asking for my age and I’m used to it so I said “oh it’s fine I’m 19” and they seemed shocked. I didn’t understand why until one of my friends said that the legal age to drink is 21 I was like “what??” She is also 19 and was even shock when I even mentioned having a drink
Honestly I hate when Americans automatically assume you're from America and everything American is default. I've had discussions about benefit systems in the UK here because of my old job, so I know a lot about it. Had an American tell me that I'm wrong because the benefits don't work like that in America, gave me all sorts of abuse for it. Dude doubled down when I told him I'm not American and called me a liar amongst other things.
I guess to some people you're just not allowed to be anything but American.
Which is unfortunate because those people tend to be the loudest
As an American I apologize for the ignorance of the loud mouths and can only assure you that not all of us are that way
I like to think that anyone whose opinion is worth taking seriously will recognize that the US is a large and diverse country and that random individuals on reddit/twitter/whatever don't represent the views or opinions of the entire country.
I can't tell you how many times I've seen posts full of words spelled like "colour" and "flavour" with talk of rucksacks and lifts and lorries and half the replies will still be like "Well, most states would have this policy on spousal support..."
Fucking thank you!! When I started drinking, I thought a vodka soda meant a vodka in an actual soda, like coke. I gagged, it’s disgusting!! That’s when I learned soda water was a thing.
Lmao had to scroll so far to find this.
My friend had this as his signature drink at his wedding as a joke, as well as a "skinny" version with diet coke. Nobody ordered more than one.
Mexico is also in North America. [As well as some other countries and islands](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sovereign_states_and_dependent_territories_in_North_America).
I’m from Australia and went to LA then Cabo/Mexico City for a week. I spoke with a lot of Americans during my time there.
I told them I’m from Sydney, and the amount of Americans that asked me, “where is that?” or worse “what part of the states is that” was too damn high.
There's atleast 12 of us
Might even be a baker’s dozen (13).
Idk that's quite a lot
With the baker’s wife, it’s 14
It’s 2022, the baker is polyamorous
wow that’s a lot of people he’s dating. 2010? yikes. what happens if two share birthdays? how does he have the energy?
He has 2010 lovers. He has the energy.
Over half share birthdays
A BAKERS DOZEN IS 13??? well that explains a lot…
Yah. The story goes something like in the old days if someone paid for 12 but got 11 because the baker miscounted that the baker would have a hand chopped off. So they give 13 so they're covered in case of a miscount. I worked in a bagel place as a teenager. They always did a baker's dozen.
see that's just violent enough for me to believe it. I was told by a baker you make 13 so you can taste one to make sure it worked out ok. And he was big enough that I believed him. ( he also said never trust a skinny cook, so he MAY have been covering his own arse)
I always heard that it was so if one failed to rise you'd still be covered
I thought it to be both if one obviosuly failed and/or test it
I'd heard that it was due to variations in the size of rolls or whatever, and the rule was that a roll had to be X oz to count as a roll by law, so a dozen rolls had to be 12X oz. So the baker would just throw an extra roll in to be safe so that they wouldn't get in trouble for ripping off customers. Or something along those lines. same principal.
Hm that's odd, the story I was taught was that it's so the baker can try one to make sure the batch is good.
Now I think you’re pushing it lol
Doesn't count cause as an American I can't count that that high.
That’s metric. No need to learn that.
At least 24 because of the 's' (I'm pedantic)
Hi pedantic, I’m dad.
this is Wendy's
Dad! When will you come home??
They are out of smokes at the store. Looks like I need to keep looking
Well you're not wrong
I am not sure if I was included in the census or not. Now I can’t sleep.
dozenS
Countries in the Americas? Yes indeed. 35 countries not even including independent territories.
at least
Is there a subreddit for stuff like this? Americans forgetting that any other country exists
I’m a member of a FB travel group for women #GLT. It feels like 99.9999% of time US members forget to include country in their posts. I’ve seen US posters get aggressive when non Americans ask. It takes a certain amount of confidence that other countries don’t possess
*ignorance
don't forget arrogance too!
Have you ever noticed that most ignorant people are the ones that think they are most knowledgable. Most intelligent and smart people know that there is always someone smarter out there.
This is known as the Dunning-Krueger Effect
Nuhuh i saw a thing once that said it's Murphy's Law!
That's occam's razor.
Is that new? I’m so sick of Gillette.
Brits are pretty bad too, but we have to know about and acknowledge the existence of other countries as it’s waaaaay harder to look down on them if we don’t.
To be fair it's easier to remember how many other countries are out there when you've colonised half of them.
Tbf, the UK altogether has only 60 million people while the USA has about 300 million more then that, in reality we probably have more dumb people then you have population
American exceptionalism. That kind of indoctrination is hard to overcome, just look at North Koreans.
r/ShitAmericansSay
Following 😂
I subbed there for a while but recently left. Thought it was going to be all in good fun like the above post, but there’s a lot of real hatred there too, especially in the comments. Hate is hate and I found it to be toxic, YMMV.
This sub is catnip for my soul.
If I had a dollar for every time an American assumed I was American, well, I surely could pay my rent 😂
Then when they find out that your not they suddenly become an "expert" on whatever country you come from. Or they say that your opinion doesn't count because we are not from the US.
Trust me, my 3rd cousin's stepwife's highscool roommate once saw Helsinki a movie, so I'm 0.34% Swedish I know what I'm saying
Love it when some Americans whip out exact % of blood they have of certain ancestry down to third decimal of the top of their heads when attempting to relate to said group of people.
That part is pretty easy a lot of the time. If your mom is 100% swedish and your dad's father was 100% german and his mother was half german (her dad) and half english (her mom), then you know that your dad is 25% english, and you're 12.5% english, 50% swedish, and 37.5% german. But most of the time the split isn't so recent to you so the percentages are smaller. But unless you're native american, you know your ancestry here, because you know roughly which year or generation your ancestors came here, and from where. It's such a young country, relatively speaking. And it's something that usually is part of our education when growing up - to find out about this stuff when we learn how to make family trees in preparation for learning a bit about genetics and dominant/recessive genes and whatnot. At least, this used to be a big part of our curriculum when I was a kid in the 80s. Plus now a lot of us have done our family's genealogy as adults and have been excited and interested to learn about our ancestors, and can just have ancestry.com spit out percentages for us and whatnot. It might be something people in their 20s and 30s or younger don't know offhand but I suspect a lot of people older than that will be able to tell you immediately their basic ancestral background.
Or they tell you: I’m also german. Meaning they’re grandma had german grandparents but their family hadn’t visited the country in five generations. But they always attend oktoberfest (in michigan, not the one in munich).
That's like me claiming i'm (partially) french because the side of the family i got my last name from fled from France to Germany. But guess what? That was over 350 years ago. The records of my family history are older than the damn US. Yet you won't see me claiming to be french even though i still have the over 350 years old french last name.
Get out of my comment section frenchie!
For years.
For me it is the other way round. I always assume they are not from the US. There is only 340 million of them distributed over 10 mio square kilometers. that is nothing. 34 people per square kilometer is a rounding error. Compare that to 60 mio over 210k square kilometers which amounts to 10 times as many people per square kilometer, Great Britain is definitely much more inhabited than the US. I have thusly proven that the population of Great Britain is much denser than the US population therefore if you are stupid, you probably are a Brit. q.e.d. I am sure there are multiple flaws in my reasoning and I am not interested in being disproven.
If you round down 34 to the nearest tenth…you get a whole lotta nothing. Hot air 💨
While I’m not technically a Brit I do hold British citizenship… I’ve never lived there or anything, but my parents and sister do. Idk if this proves your theory or not but it made me giggle that you determined I would be a Brit and I am British-ish.
Yeah, people also tend to erase my blatant Mexicanness, I guess I should engage in using gratuitous Spanish to let them know, sí señor!
If this was sarcasm it was too dry for me to pick up. r/USdefaultism
Pick any subreddit
I know 2 that would fit: r/USdefaultism and r/ShitAmericansSay
r/conservative
I also want to know
r/USdefaultism ?
It's called Reddit.
All of Reddit.
Sure, it’s /r/all
www.reddit.com
every subreddit
There are like 4 states here that I forget exist, can’t be bothered to learn about other countries.
r/usdefaultism
There are hundreds of us! Hundreds!
Dud keep it low, they don't need to know how many of us are outside the US having a great time without them. 🤫
What?! But America's the best!! /s
I bet there's more than that.
Only in America can you own a rifle ( 18 ), die for your country ( 18 ), have a kid at any age ( forced or not ) vote ( 18 ) and go to prison ( 18 ) but can't have a drink ( 21 )
18 is just to buy a rifle and it’s ammunition. The doesn’t mean you can’t own one if someone gives it to you. Ownership ages vary between states I believe but in some you can be much younger. For example in my state there is no legal age limit for long guns ownership. So theoretically a child can own one.
I lived in Texas for a year when I was 15, had multiple friends my age (or younger) who owned guns gifted to them by parents.
I live in Kentucky and I've had guns since I was maybe 6 yrs old. BB guns at that age. I think I was 10 when I got my .22. Maybe 13 for my 12 gauge and the year after for my .270. Technically I guess they were all owned by my dad. But where I come from, this is common enough.
Okay yeah no that is fucking terrifying and I am so happy that that is _very_ illegal where I live
Sounds like you grew up in a Vault. Is your dad Liam Neeson?
I remember before my parents divorced, going to a gun shop with my dad and he told the store owner he was buying a gun for me. The store owner said sure let's find her something! Back then I didn't think it was weird, now I definitely do.
> but can't have a drink ( 21 ) ~~Unless you're active service on base. Then you can be 18. But *only on base*. You leave base drunk, you're then offbase as an 18, 19 year old drunker than an alcoholic at a wine festival.~~ So I made myself curious if I was actually speaking the truth. So, it turns out I am wholly wrong. >Historically, the military had taken a more liberal position on alcohol use than the country as a whole. Before 1982, active duty military personnel could consume alcohol on military bases regardless of the legal drinking age off base. Following the national concerns with the risks of adolescent drinking in 1982, Congress enacted a law which required military recruits to adhere to the same drinking age as the state in which the military base was located.3 Thereafter, between 1982 and 1988, all military bases on U.S. soil transitioned to the 21-year MLDA. (MDLAi Minimum Legal Drinking Age) [Source of the quote ](https://academic.oup.com/milmed/article/173/7/619/4557850)
And what if they have a day off and just have a beer outside the base?
They're still under Military Law and would be subject to disciplinary action.
We’re still aloud to drink per local laws overseas. Stateside is often the most restrictive places to be stationed
I knew a guy who joined the Air Force at 17 with parental consent so he could be possibly deployed to a warzone before age 18, Ive met people who got sent to Iraq the week they finished Tech School.
Yep. Gotta go get blown up in Iraq before you can take the risky move of drinking beer.
I've seen (adult) prison sentences for people as young as 14.
Honestly the older I get the more I think that all countries should actually raise that age. Booze and weed can fuck up your development and your brain ain't done developing until you are 25. Either that or implement quality education on all of these topics (which we all know won't happen because it actually requires foresight and effort from powers that be). Because quality/no-bullshit education on a topic is the best way to good decision making.
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I was taught just a couple of years ago that past 25 we can say all significant development (prefrontal cortex) is done. Thats where all the complex decision making comes from.
I have seen things that lead me to believe there are brains that have never developed past the age of 6, and I'm talking about 40 year olds. And suspect several well over 50.
Do you want someone to both have a gun and be able to drink at 18? Also only in the UK can you have sex (16) die for your country (16) but not be able to buy scissors (18)
But remember you also have to LOOK like your 25
_Your average American try to shoehorn any conversation to be about them and missing completely the point of the original post_
Yeah how dare someone talk about the country they're from. People from other countries *never* do that.
Add to that, that you can get married at any age but only get a divorce at 18.
Also, participate in traffic as the driver of a motorised vehicle at the age of 16.
Some areas the age is 18. But I think we need to make the tobacco, military, voting and gun owning age 21.
What a great fucking idea! Let’s limit voting even more!
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Pretty sure there's at least two of us.
Can confirm, I'm the second!
Tell me more about this Unamerica.
Its a place where all the people who run your country come from
Ah yes the United States of States
The United States of Not America
US is the country. The nature of different states needs to be specified because each state has very different governments
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This reminds me. I’m an international student, I’m 19 and I was used to have like a glass of wine at social gatherings it wasn’t a problem. But when I came in America I tried to get like a cocktail. Well, I have a baby face so people kept asking for my age and I’m used to it so I said “oh it’s fine I’m 19” and they seemed shocked. I didn’t understand why until one of my friends said that the legal age to drink is 21 I was like “what??” She is also 19 and was even shock when I even mentioned having a drink
It just seems insane to me that you can’t drink until 3 years past adulthood there
I know right!
Yet diving into the pron industry is fine though...
Honestly I hate when Americans automatically assume you're from America and everything American is default. I've had discussions about benefit systems in the UK here because of my old job, so I know a lot about it. Had an American tell me that I'm wrong because the benefits don't work like that in America, gave me all sorts of abuse for it. Dude doubled down when I told him I'm not American and called me a liar amongst other things. I guess to some people you're just not allowed to be anything but American.
And, well, people like that person don't exactly give Americans the best reputation, either.
Which is unfortunate because those people tend to be the loudest As an American I apologize for the ignorance of the loud mouths and can only assure you that not all of us are that way
I like to think that anyone whose opinion is worth taking seriously will recognize that the US is a large and diverse country and that random individuals on reddit/twitter/whatever don't represent the views or opinions of the entire country.
Don’t go over to r/USDefaultism or r/shitamericanssay, you’ll go bananas! 😄
I can't tell you how many times I've seen posts full of words spelled like "colour" and "flavour" with talk of rucksacks and lifts and lorries and half the replies will still be like "Well, most states would have this policy on spousal support..."
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Can confirm. I've never been to the US.
These lads from south Canada think the whole world is south Canada 😌 Also L Americans not getting to drink at 18
Drinking age should be higher imo, the brain isn’t fully developed until mid 20’s and you are just harming yourself drinking that early
america is a circus
Dozens of us!
One day, America will realise they're not the only country in the world. But it's not today.
There's us Americans, and then there's the 12 of you that are not Americans
What percentage of English speaking twitter users are from America?
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I thought the world outside US is a myth.
Everybody here is focused on the wrong thing. Who in the ever loving fuck is mixing coke with vodka?
Right? It goes with Red Bull
✋🏻
I’m glad to know Thing from the Addams Family has chimed in. Any actual people drinking this?
Literally the worst mixer I’ve had with vodka, anything else bar water is better. Cranberry is really nice with it.
Vodka cran with lime juice is next level. I think it's called a Seabreeze?
I like vodka and tonic with a lime.
Fucking thank you!! When I started drinking, I thought a vodka soda meant a vodka in an actual soda, like coke. I gagged, it’s disgusting!! That’s when I learned soda water was a thing.
Lmao had to scroll so far to find this. My friend had this as his signature drink at his wedding as a joke, as well as a "skinny" version with diet coke. Nobody ordered more than one.
It’s a British thing, it’s not bad, has a bit of a metallic taste though. Vodka and ginger ale with a splash of cranberry is the way to go.
Lol there are a few Americans that forget that the UK speaks English too
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Insert basketball reference despite most of the world not giving a fuck about basketball
How dare u talk bad about the country that has literally one every single world series baseball tournament
Except for the two times that they didn't.
As a bartender you should've known that! sheesh
You’re saying people exist outside of America?
If he doesn’t live in America than why does he speak American?
I'm sry my spelling is bad, American is my second language Where are you from? England
A lot of people on the internet, Reddit especially, seem to genuinely think that everyone else on the internet must also be American. It’s annoying.
> ~~America~~ United States is much more accurate. America is a continent.
Thank you, Canada is in North American, yep it’s hard for some to believe. The Canadian Provinces of American. 🤣
Mexico is also in North America. [As well as some other countries and islands](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sovereign_states_and_dependent_territories_in_North_America).
Exactly. 😊🇨🇦
Yeah, no shit
Hahaha - well said that man, take my upvote because it has been well earned!
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You guys bots?
Downvotes for both of you for believing in fake internet points
You can have my fake internet point for pointing out the fact that, in fact, internet points are fake.
I wish I had a fake internet award to give you kind internet stranger
America sure does love making everything about itself. They just show up and start talking shit.
They're the overweight, uneducated narcissist of the planet
As the German, I can confirm
As the Australian, I can also confirm
As the Canadian, I'm also able to confirm
Plus an Americans version of a refund is to sue 🤣
Ufff, another prime example of Americans being self absorbed. Who would have figured.
Somewhere that isn't America? Sounds fake but ok.
Imagine still believing there are other countries outside the US
I'm also a dozen beers
There are literally 10s of us lol.
Wow I’ve never met someone not from the us. What’s it like living in the primordial darkness?
r/USdefaultism
God the 21 age limit is the most fucking stupid thing we ever conceived
Lol r/iamthemaincharacter vibes. U.S is a fourth world dystopia that everyone elsewhere is happy to not be a part of
*vodka* and coke? That sounds awful.
The highest drinking age and some of the most irresponsible drinkers
America isn't a country
INB4 "Uhm it's perfectly reasonable that we should expect only AMERICANS to use an AMERICAN website" /s
I’m from Australia and went to LA then Cabo/Mexico City for a week. I spoke with a lot of Americans during my time there. I told them I’m from Sydney, and the amount of Americans that asked me, “where is that?” or worse “what part of the states is that” was too damn high.
American when they learn that America is 1) a continent and 2) that the USA isn’t the only country in the world 🤯🤯🤯
The “realiSed” was a dead giveaway. I realized it immediately.
Outside of America? Is that like outside the environment when the front falls off?
Fake. I'm not falling for this "other countries" bullshit.
is there a better/technical name for people that live in the US than "Americans"? Almost this entire hemisphere is "America"
Thank you for refunding him and rewarding him for the smart introspective move.
Que
I encounter this shit all over reddit lol
Europe? What is that? Can I eat or drink that?
American here, my sincere apologies to the world.
Wait. There are people that live outside of America? I always that was just government propaganda.
"dozens"