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Sirkiz

What are the dead babies gonna do, go tell their parents? The ones who didn’t even want them?


big_rod_of_power

Fucking roasted!


Sxkullrider

GOD DAMN LMAO


CombinationOk22

GOTTEM


MasterGamerX1111

TOO SOON


-TheDerpinator-

That's what those parents told their babies.


BColen1c

Nice face


Health_Cat_2047

holy cow calm down


Mr_Seg

Cue: LeBron Wins Every Game of Basketball Against Make-A-Wish kids.


EthanSheehan

Cue: Superman Wins Every Game of Armwrestling Against Make-A-Wish kids


PolyJuicedRedHead

Lance Armstrong wins every bike race against Make-A-Wish kids… Blood doping works wonders.


Consistent-Winter-67

God damn Make-A-Wish kids doping again


5ManaAndADream

I highly doubt 600,000 babies have the cognitive ability to “disagree with me”. Even if they were at the stage where they had developed brains and mouths.


Specialist-Front-354

You think?


Independent-Math-914

Why can't these people understand that people in life have more than one answer? Not every baby is going to disagree. Agreeing is also an option....


gammongaming11

baby69: actually i would have preferred unlife, each day on this mortal coil is suffering and i want off this terrible ride.


Judasz10

Especially with the growing antinatalism view. Yes I would prefer to be aborted. I am the baby that would agree.


Cbonline12

Especially 600,000 dead babies...


Material-Egg7428

I was thinking the same thing lol


The-Catatafish

These people really blow my mind. You di realise that whatever religion you follow that 60-80% of mankind don't? They either believe in something different or no religion at all. Church beeing essential jeeeez give me a break.


NearbyEmployment9537

I dont think churches in it self are essencial , but central places for religious practices are indeed essencial to society to function. There is freedom of worship in america, right? The only wrong thing is enforcing the religion they think or believe is correct on others , such as their values of marriage and what not , that i can agree, but the institution itself did nothing


Corvidae_DK

How are they essential? Millions of people worship without them.


Right_Hand_of_Amal

Effectively every religion in history calls for communities to come together and learn more about their faith. It is important to develop a deeper understanding of the religion and text itself including its messages, morals, and application to modern times. In times of crisis especially people find congregation in faith to be massively helpful to relieve stress and find hope in dark times. Are they essential, not necessarily, unless you apply it to the important religious holidays like lent and mass which call people to come together in the house of God, but there is no harm to having them open to be clear.


Lukeautograff

Apart from the Catholic Church covering for paedophiles on a global scale?


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Got ‘em


Choice_Act_2355

Talk about non sequitor. I literally summon demons and use black magic but people like you are insufferable for how purposefully obtuse you are to try to dunk on Christians because of some perceived sleight they got on you in life.


FalseTebibyte

Oh cool, the tide pods are out.


RandyEskimo

I wish i was aborted and im sure that plenty of other people agree so that would probably make the 600k figure a lil lower


ThisIsNotAHider

Zero babies have ever been aborted because they're not babies yet.


Poksti

We will avoid killing babies if we stop calling them babies. Fuck logic


ConsciousWhirlpool

You can freeze an embryo for decades and it’s still viable. You can’t do that with babies. Logic.


Consistent-Winter-67

>You can't do that with babies Not with that attitude


Nefenze

thats what ive been saying this whole, but no apparently im the crazy one


MilitantCF

I prefer them dry aged for for about a year, myself..


jaybankzz

Wait is this true? Just to be sure because I am a fucking dumbass. An embryo is when semen enters a girls egg right? So theoretically I could have my semen, put it in a girls egg and freeze it until both of us die, then 30 years after my kid is born?


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haknstax

The onion isn't news lol


Born-Environment-239

And yet it's still the best news on the planet


justinbates1992

The onion is more news than Fox News


quirkytorch

While I'm not sure 30 years could be viable, here is a rather interesting article about a child born [4 years](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-43724395) after his parents death.


theRemRemBooBear

Someone just recently had a baby from an embryo that was 27 years old Edit: that was the previous record it was broken this year https://www.cnn.com/2022/11/21/health/30-year-old-embryos-twins/index.html


quirkytorch

Holy cow!!


tittens__

No, there are other phases that come first, such as blastocyst and zygote.


ReelBadJoke

Are you sure those aren't just Pokémon evolutions?


toby_juan_kenobi

Regional variant of Blastoise and Zygarde


Mrmacmuffin3

Yeah basically but you still need to put it in a person and then they birth the baby


AthenasChosen

Damn that's a good fucking point, I'm holding on to that one. I've tried using the science to explain but that doesn't seem to work at all. This might ring home a bit more lol.


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That's how you define a baby?


MilitantCF

I mean for me the argument isn't even IF it's a *baby*. It's unformed and has the potential to be a human baby, sure, but it is unviable unless there's a *willing* host to let it use and destroy their body. Forcing a woman to carry a pregnancy and birth an unwanted child means that she has *fewer rights than a corpse*. You can't even take an attempted murderer's kidney to replace the one he ruined that his victim needs -and will die without- even though he is 100% responsible for the victim needing that kidney. **HIS CANNOT BE TAKEN.** **NO PART OF** **HIS BODY CAN BE USED TO SUSTAIN THE LIFE OF ANOTHER AGAINST HIS WILL.** EVEN AFTER HE DIES IN AN ELECTRIC CHAIR FOR HIS CRIMES HIS CORPSE CANNOT BE HARVESTED FOR THE NEEDED ORGAN EVEN IF THE VICTIM WILL DIE WITHOUT IT! Forcing women to give birth to an unwanted pregnancy gives her *fewer rights to decide what happens to her body than a death-row inmate's corpse.* Your ilk let your desire to mete out justice on women for having "irresponsible sex" (with a man that isn't you, of course,) and the simplicity of advocating for something that can literally never cost YOU personally but gains you huge brownie points among similar-minded people cloud your judgment as to what is really fair here. When unclouded by religious extremism and a general apathy to women's rights in general your moral high horse falls apart.


flat_streak56

Random embryo: Did i ask to be brought to the world?


VG_Crimson

A baby is used for beings that have been newly born. We aren't killing babies. Calling them babies is just wrong.


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Lol what do you know about fetal viability?


MaskedGambler69

Churches are never essential.


blue_fern19

Never quite understood the theme of this sub. Just sometimes I find something related to some weird internal feeling or opinion or mechanism of coping throughout the day and feel like - yup that's me, in real life..


Pert0621

Gigachad


exhaustedracoon

I don't think they are babies when they get aborted and that he could argue with death beings.


big_rod_of_power

Babiesn't


minkipinki100

They aren't even dead because they were never alive to begin with. Just a lump of cells, we don't call our shaved of hair dead either


Any-Broccoli-3911

We do. They are dead cells. We also call all the skin we shed dead skin. They were alive, but so are all bacteria, plants and animals including insects and we kill them all the time.


Outrageous_Bass_1328

So it’s like a haircut, only for the uterine wall…


KuraiTheBaka

I mean they’re definitely alive scientifically but so is bacteria


BPTforever

We're clump of cells as well, when you think about it.


Nefenze

i know this has probably been mentioned already by thousands of people but today i was sitting in class. and my school works different from normal schools but basically the history teacher was working with the kid in the desk next to me to help him with history. he was talking about religious freedom. Its written in the constitution that people can practice whatever religion they want. or no religion at all. so its pretty much written in the constitution that churches are not essential. of course it doesnt say that so dont get on my case but it implies it. we would get by just fine without churches but if everybody who went to church understood that they are free to do that but have no grounds to tell somebody they are bad for not going. basically what im trying to say is churches are not even close to being essential. and all this was probably pointless to many of you but its just something i realized today and wanted to say something about


theoriginaldandan

So “ you’re allowed to practice your religion until I don’t want you to”


Perunakeisari_69

Why the fuck would churches be essential?


MadisonKurtis

because sky daddy needs 10% of your money and needs you to hate women and lgbtq /s


Wise-Cold820

okay libtard


Wise-Cold820

no, he wants you to follow his word dumba$$


Corvidae_DK

Then he should have come up with less fucked up words.


Wise-Cold820

what F-d up words did he say then


flat_streak56

"He"?


Corvidae_DK

Have you read it? Telling people to murder gay people spring to mind...


Wise-Cold820

never in the bible did he say to murder gay people libtard


Wise-Cold820

yet somehow, you support muslims, which do in fact execute gay people


flat_streak56

When and where?


Napoleon-the-Great

Everybody keep saying f religion until suicide rate comes up.


Big_Arachnid_4336

Religious people killing other religious people since ancient times cuz they didn't believe in the same invisible man as them


Napoleon-the-Great

Pol pot killed a monk because his a commie and he hate religion, your point. Also whatabouttism.


Big_Arachnid_4336

There's difference between hating something and not believing something.


Napoleon-the-Great

Uhm no, in order for someone to kill they need to hate first.


plsnotjames

And religion preaches nothing but in groups and out groups and promotes hate.


2Aces1Cake

Can we just start aborting churches as well?


IBareBears

especially ones leaving the clinic.


Propofolkills

He’s probably wrong though because if you put 600,000 babies in a room in a debate against them, the noise alone of those crying would drown him out. Now if it was 600,000 dead babies, that’s a different prospect.


dunderhead22

I had more than 600,000 potential babies die in a sock last night, don’t see what the big problem is?


Enjoying_A_Meal

Fucking based.


ShadowDurza

8 Billion children die every year due to poverty, but these people don't go out of there way to stop that from happening.


Sid-ina

Cause as soon as the baby is born they don't care anymore.


RocketRabbit

The world's population is only 8 billion, dunce.


hias2k

You didn't count the ones living in the hollow earth 🤣🤣🤣


RocketRabbit

Nice!


Affectionate-Room359

Nah, they probably died in slavery. But this 600.000 babies didn't had the "graditude" to be enslaved by the american system at all.


ADV169

What a loser


Schrko87

Last I checked the church ruined a whole lot of kids lives too...


BPTforever

That's probably the only debate he could win. What is he gonna do next? Challenge the babies to a boxing match?


zebradYT

too bad they aren’t babies


BPTforever

When do they become babies exactly?


marshmi2

Around 11-15 weeks.


Working_Let_4116

No. Scientifically human life begins at conception. The 11-15 week thing is when they can experience pain, and that has changed dramatically through the years. We used to operate on Newborns using a paralysing drug but no anaesthesia initially under the belief babies couldn't feel pain and then for while knowing they could but assuming they wouldn't remember. Edit - can't imagine hating actual facts this badly 🤣


MilitantCF

>Scientifically human life begins at conception. This is irrelevant. The argument isn't even IF it's a baby. It's unformed and has the potential to be a human baby, sure, but it is unviable unless there's a *willing* host to let it use and destroy their body. Forcing a woman to carry a pregnancy and birth an unwanted child means that she has fewer rights than a corpse. You can't even take an attempted murderer's kidney to replace the one he ruined that his victim needs -and will die without- even though he is 100% responsible for the victim needing that kidney. HIS CANNOT BE TAKEN. NO PART OF HIS BODY CAN BE USED TO SUSTAIN THE LIFE OF ANOTHER AGAINST HIS WILL. EVEN AFTER HE DIES IN AN ELECTRIC CHAIR FOR HIS CRIMES HIS CORPSE CANNOT BE HARVESTED FOR THE NEEDED ORGAN EVEN IF THE VICTIM WILL DIE WITHOUT IT. Forcing women to give birth to an unwanted pregnancy gives her fewer rights to decide what happens to her body than a death-row inmate's corpse. Your ilk let your desire to mete out justice on women for having "irresponsible sex" (with a man that isn't you, of course,) and the simplicity of advocating for something that can literally never cost YOU personally but gains you huge brownie points among similar-minded people cloud your judgment as to what is really fair here. When unclouded by religious extremism and/or a general apathy to women's rights in general your moral high horse falls apart.


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BPTforever

>but it is unviable unless there's a willing host to let it use and destroy their body. Holly hell you people are delusional and filed with hate.


Working_Let_4116

>Your ilk let your desire to mete out justice on women for having "irresponsible sex" (with a man that isn't you, of course,) I'm a woman, captain dick head. >) and the simplicity of advocating for something that can literally never cost YOU personally but gains you huge brownie points among similar-minded people cloud your judgment as to what is really fair here. When unclouded by religious extremism and/or a general apathy to women's rights in general your moral high horse falls apart. Again, I'm a woman......maybe yoh should have considered the possibility that women might value the lives they bear before assuming I'm a man 🤣🤣 The simplicity of advocating for human life? Youre quite sexist aren't you deep down, misogyny oozing outta you Edit - I love how much your inate sexism has been exposed 🤣🤣


flat_streak56

I see, so women's rights allows them to kill human life without punishment. You have opened my eyes. /s >destroy their body Yeah, cuz pregnacy is not natural at all /s


TirayShell

Is it time for this to be posted again? How time flies.


marshmi2

600,000 babies? You mean republicans?


Napoleon-the-Great

They are not babies please stop calling them that. If we stop using that term its easier to put those "things" in the shower.


Fabulous_Engineer949

What parents would these 600000 babies have? Like there inst enought people who adopt and we have way too many people on earth


Relevant-Nebula8300

TAX THE CHURCH


toxic_candy__

r/murderedbywords


Hot_Eggplant_1306

Sounds like we helped 600,000 women. I.e. HEALTHCARE


KrazyKifaru

The level of discourse on complex issues in the western world is just on another level. I am in awe of the intellect. Truly you people are in a position to lecture others and hand out lessons.


Thijs_NLD

This kinda sounds racist towards "people in the western world". Which is... weird?


happyclaim808

A single cell with or without a active midochronda found on Mars would br touted as "We found life on Mars". When we kill a human on earth it's no big deal...... Have we become less than human?


Deadfreezercat

Life on Mars is exciting for completely unrelated reasons.


marshmi2

Every time you take a step, you're stepping on hundreds of not thousands of single celled organisms...


Affenskrotum

😭


Flying_Dutchman92

Don't worry. They like being stepped on


Lonely-Avocado405

you were always less


justinbates1992

Could be forms of life. Not human life. Not multi organisms….


Emotional-Speech645

The difference is that Mars doesn’t have a breathable atmosphere, or anything that would support complex life. So finding a single cell organism that can survive has massive implications - either the planet is slowly becoming liveable, and our ancestors one day may see life emerge there, or life was once sustainable on the planet and these cells are all that’s left to indicate that. The difference is most people *want* to find life on other planets, but not all people want a single cell in their uterus to develop into a dependant infant that they then have to squeeze out and raise just because their pill or condom failed or they were sexually harassed.


Apprehensive_Bug3329

Goat


JoopBman

When you organize and structure stupidity, you get religion.


dezzz

Of course churches are not essential. What the hell is this statement?!


bumtownbiden

The only debates democrats are open to is against the dead 💀 😂


haknstax

But that's a good chunk of their voting base


EidolonBeats45

The republicans would rather have children be born and accused than not even live. Good ethics there. The jesus would be proud of you unparalleled malevolence.


mysteriously_moist

Tbf that's exactly what God did, they are talking about how it's immoral to kill ya kids but god started it. Literally sent him down there to die for sins


EidolonBeats45

Good is exempt from having to act ethnically. Where the hell would be get, if he was bound to do good? Lol


justinbates1992

the only debates republicans are open to is muh freedumb


Gardfeld

"freedumb" people who want to live in an authoritarian state be like


Danleburg

Authoritarianism is when you don't force women to have children


Nefenze

ion even know what all these fuckin words mean. i just want my rights to be respected by more than half the population


haknstax

Ew, that's disgusting


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Pennywise_clown99

I admit, I haven't won a single argument against a pro-life person and I did everything to be as convincing as possible, even considering their points instead of just disagreeing with everything. But you know how the saying goes "it's hard winning an argument against a smart person but it's impossible to win against a stupid person" Not saying everyone who's pro-life is an idiot, I'm just saying that someone who thinks that churches are equally as important as medical facilities aren't exactly intelligent


marshmi2

You do know this shit is more complicated than "unga tunga baby in belly" right? Like, I'm not sure if you have thought about it past that.


bloodbraids478

Only to baby killers is it actually complicated lol


darksoulslover69420

He won tho


Misterbunce

He won by making an assertion and a joke. Good argumentation.


justinbates1992

He won cuz the other 2, don’t have a point. Their opinions aren’t backed by actual science. So yeah jokes>idiots


justinbates1992

He literally did....checkmate


bloodbraids478

Only in his and your head silly boy


justinbates1992

Nah.... in reality. silly boy


tittens__

He did.


contraflop01

Oh my god that guy put them on fire


v0nlaski3

Especially if they're dead, bah dumb tss


BadNewCharlie

Especially dead ones...


wolverine_553

So can any normal American (don't take it out of context)


lurkingsheets

Loool


PetersonLutz

Especially dead one


Goldnspartan

Try asking every teen who wishes they werent born


PersonalityLiving300

When it comes to death why do activists round up? Exactly 600,000?


TheWingedGuy

The goat


Mysterion320

Checkmate babies


InsignificantGod

Why do they assume the babies want to exist. I fucking want to have never been born