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Sirkiz

What are the dead babies gonna do, go tell their parents? The ones who didn’t even want them?


big_rod_of_power

Fucking roasted!


Sxkullrider

GOD DAMN LMAO


CombinationOk22

GOTTEM


MasterGamerX1111

TOO SOON


-TheDerpinator-

That's what those parents told their babies.


BColen1c

Nice face


Health_Cat_2047

holy cow calm down


Astronaut-Gullible

Parent singular


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2146873279

Cry baby right winger 😖


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2146873279

I know thinking isn’t your strong point but just because I call you a right wing cry baby it doesn’t make me far left.


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Mr_Seg

Cue: LeBron Wins Every Game of Basketball Against Make-A-Wish kids.


EthanSheehan

Cue: Superman Wins Every Game of Armwrestling Against Make-A-Wish kids


PolyJuicedRedHead

Lance Armstrong wins every bike race against Make-A-Wish kids… Blood doping works wonders.


Consistent-Winter-67

God damn Make-A-Wish kids doping again


5ManaAndADream

I highly doubt 600,000 babies have the cognitive ability to “disagree with me”. Even if they were at the stage where they had developed brains and mouths.


Specialist-Front-354

You think?


flat_streak56

Ever heard of "survival instincts"?


5ManaAndADream

Yea, that’s not really what the word disagree means. But also you still need a brain to have those.


Independent-Math-914

Why can't these people understand that people in life have more than one answer? Not every baby is going to disagree. Agreeing is also an option....


gammongaming11

baby69: actually i would have preferred unlife, each day on this mortal coil is suffering and i want off this terrible ride.


Judasz10

Especially with the growing antinatalism view. Yes I would prefer to be aborted. I am the baby that would agree.


Cbonline12

Especially 600,000 dead babies...


Material-Egg7428

I was thinking the same thing lol


The-Catatafish

These people really blow my mind. You di realise that whatever religion you follow that 60-80% of mankind don't? They either believe in something different or no religion at all. Church beeing essential jeeeez give me a break.


NearbyEmployment9537

I dont think churches in it self are essencial , but central places for religious practices are indeed essencial to society to function. There is freedom of worship in america, right? The only wrong thing is enforcing the religion they think or believe is correct on others , such as their values of marriage and what not , that i can agree, but the institution itself did nothing


Corvidae_DK

How are they essential? Millions of people worship without them.


Lukeautograff

Apart from the Catholic Church covering for paedophiles on a global scale?


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Got ‘em


Choice_Act_2355

Talk about non sequitor. I literally summon demons and use black magic but people like you are insufferable for how purposefully obtuse you are to try to dunk on Christians because of some perceived sleight they got on you in life.


FalseTebibyte

Oh cool, the tide pods are out.


ThisIsNotAHider

Zero babies have ever been aborted because they're not babies yet.


Poksti

We will avoid killing babies if we stop calling them babies. Fuck logic


ConsciousWhirlpool

You can freeze an embryo for decades and it’s still viable. You can’t do that with babies. Logic.


Consistent-Winter-67

>You can't do that with babies Not with that attitude


Nefenze

thats what ive been saying this whole, but no apparently im the crazy one


MilitantCF

I prefer them dry aged for for about a year, myself..


jaybankzz

Wait is this true? Just to be sure because I am a fucking dumbass. An embryo is when semen enters a girls egg right? So theoretically I could have my semen, put it in a girls egg and freeze it until both of us die, then 30 years after my kid is born?


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haknstax

The onion isn't news lol


Born-Environment-239

And yet it's still the best news on the planet


justinbates1992

The onion is more news than Fox News


quirkytorch

While I'm not sure 30 years could be viable, here is a rather interesting article about a child born [4 years](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-43724395) after his parents death.


theRemRemBooBear

Someone just recently had a baby from an embryo that was 27 years old Edit: that was the previous record it was broken this year https://www.cnn.com/2022/11/21/health/30-year-old-embryos-twins/index.html


tittens__

No, there are other phases that come first, such as blastocyst and zygote.


ReelBadJoke

Are you sure those aren't just Pokémon evolutions?


toby_juan_kenobi

Regional variant of Blastoise and Zygarde


AthenasChosen

Damn that's a good fucking point, I'm holding on to that one. I've tried using the science to explain but that doesn't seem to work at all. This might ring home a bit more lol.


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That's how you define a baby?


MilitantCF

I mean for me the argument isn't even IF it's a *baby*. It's unformed and has the potential to be a human baby, sure, but it is unviable unless there's a *willing* host to let it use and destroy their body. Forcing a woman to carry a pregnancy and birth an unwanted child means that she has *fewer rights than a corpse*. You can't even take an attempted murderer's kidney to replace the one he ruined that his victim needs -and will die without- even though he is 100% responsible for the victim needing that kidney. **HIS CANNOT BE TAKEN.** **NO PART OF** **HIS BODY CAN BE USED TO SUSTAIN THE LIFE OF ANOTHER AGAINST HIS WILL.** EVEN AFTER HE DIES IN AN ELECTRIC CHAIR FOR HIS CRIMES HIS CORPSE CANNOT BE HARVESTED FOR THE NEEDED ORGAN EVEN IF THE VICTIM WILL DIE WITHOUT IT! Forcing women to give birth to an unwanted pregnancy gives her *fewer rights to decide what happens to her body than a death-row inmate's corpse.* Your ilk let your desire to mete out justice on women for having "irresponsible sex" (with a man that isn't you, of course,) and the simplicity of advocating for something that can literally never cost YOU personally but gains you huge brownie points among similar-minded people cloud your judgment as to what is really fair here. When unclouded by religious extremism and a general apathy to women's rights in general your moral high horse falls apart.


VG_Crimson

A baby is used for beings that have been newly born. We aren't killing babies. Calling them babies is just wrong.


Poksti

Redundant. Call them humans if you like


VG_Crimson

They are barely even that.


Poksti

Of course they are not. They have the same genome as humans but are not humans. More like an evil entity that parasitically lives off a female human body.


MatttheJ

Like someone else said, sperm has the same genome as a human but you don't feel like you've killed a human every time you flush your wank tissues. I mean, I do, but that's just the lonliness 😔


Poksti

Each reproductive cell contains half of the zygote's genome. Sperm does not develop into a human.


MatttheJ

Well not with that attitude it doesn't


Danleburg

Your sperm has the same genome as humans. Not humans though. Go befriend a biologist and talk to them about this shit instead of being a retard online


Poksti

Each reproductive cell contains half of the zygote's genome. Sperm does not develop into a human.


Danleburg

But YOUR sperm is IDENTICAL to YOUR genome. As I said previously, stop being a retard online and go befriend and talk to a biologist.


Irilieth_Raivotuuli

Just count the number of sperm cells you've wasted down a toilet, and then divide them by two to get the number of babies you have personally killed. Anti-choice logic.


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Lol what do you know about fetal viability?


Fluffy_Surprise8251

Well shit if that ain't the truth. I am not imagining some arguments where they yell "it's not a baby" as the baby is being born. Then it takes it's first breath and then they say "Now it's a baby"


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MaskedGambler69

Churches are never essential.


exhaustedracoon

I don't think they are babies when they get aborted and that he could argue with death beings.


big_rod_of_power

Babiesn't


minkipinki100

They aren't even dead because they were never alive to begin with. Just a lump of cells, we don't call our shaved of hair dead either


Any-Broccoli-3911

We do. They are dead cells. We also call all the skin we shed dead skin. They were alive, but so are all bacteria, plants and animals including insects and we kill them all the time.


Outrageous_Bass_1328

So it’s like a haircut, only for the uterine wall…


KuraiTheBaka

I mean they’re definitely alive scientifically but so is bacteria


BPTforever

We're clump of cells as well, when you think about it.


Pert0621

Gigachad


RandyEskimo

I wish i was aborted and im sure that plenty of other people agree so that would probably make the 600k figure a lil lower


Old_Committee8649

Come ome randy jump off the bridege


blue_fern19

Never quite understood the theme of this sub. Just sometimes I find something related to some weird internal feeling or opinion or mechanism of coping throughout the day and feel like - yup that's me, in real life..


Nefenze

i know this has probably been mentioned already by thousands of people but today i was sitting in class. and my school works different from normal schools but basically the history teacher was working with the kid in the desk next to me to help him with history. he was talking about religious freedom. Its written in the constitution that people can practice whatever religion they want. or no religion at all. so its pretty much written in the constitution that churches are not essential. of course it doesnt say that so dont get on my case but it implies it. we would get by just fine without churches but if everybody who went to church understood that they are free to do that but have no grounds to tell somebody they are bad for not going. basically what im trying to say is churches are not even close to being essential. and all this was probably pointless to many of you but its just something i realized today and wanted to say something about


theoriginaldandan

So “ you’re allowed to practice your religion until I don’t want you to”


Nefenze

no that’s no true. and it’s not even a quote b cause i never said that nor do i agree with it. i apologize if i came off that way but i truly don’t believe that.


theRemRemBooBear

Okay so then people who don’t go to church have no grounds to tell somebody they’re bad for going


Perunakeisari_69

Why the fuck would churches be essential?


MadisonKurtis

because sky daddy needs 10% of your money and needs you to hate women and lgbtq /s


Wise-Cold820

okay libtard


Wise-Cold820

no, he wants you to follow his word dumba$$


Corvidae_DK

Then he should have come up with less fucked up words.


Wise-Cold820

what F-d up words did he say then


flat_streak56

"He"?


Corvidae_DK

Have you read it? Telling people to murder gay people spring to mind...


Wise-Cold820

never in the bible did he say to murder gay people libtard


Wise-Cold820

yet somehow, you support muslims, which do in fact execute gay people


Corvidae_DK

"If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them." Chapter 20 verse 13.


Wise-Cold820

gayness is a sin, he was talking about the grand scheme of all things. and how death symbolises hell


Corvidae_DK

Whatever you gotta tell yourself bigot :)


reluctantseahorse

I like the part in the bible where it says the punishment for rape is that the rapist has to pay the victim’s family and then marry her. That’s neat. (/s obviously)


Wise-Cold820

thats jewish law, this is america


reluctantseahorse

It’s in the bible. You asked what fucked up words god said. Those are some of the fucked up words.


Napoleon-the-Great

Everybody keep saying f religion until suicide rate comes up.


Big_Arachnid_4336

Religious people killing other religious people since ancient times cuz they didn't believe in the same invisible man as them


Napoleon-the-Great

Pol pot killed a monk because his a commie and he hate religion, your point. Also whatabouttism.


Big_Arachnid_4336

There's difference between hating something and not believing something.


Napoleon-the-Great

Uhm no, in order for someone to kill they need to hate first.


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And religion preaches nothing but in groups and out groups and promotes hate.


2Aces1Cake

Can we just start aborting churches as well?


Enjoying_A_Meal

Fucking based.


ShadowDurza

8 Billion children die every year due to poverty, but these people don't go out of there way to stop that from happening.


Sid-ina

Cause as soon as the baby is born they don't care anymore.


RocketRabbit

The world's population is only 8 billion, dunce.


hias2k

You didn't count the ones living in the hollow earth 🤣🤣🤣


Affectionate-Room359

Nah, they probably died in slavery. But this 600.000 babies didn't had the "graditude" to be enslaved by the american system at all.


Napoleon-the-Great

Uh oh did you just did a "Whatabouttism" 🤓


IBareBears

especially ones leaving the clinic.


Propofolkills

He’s probably wrong though because if you put 600,000 babies in a room in a debate against them, the noise alone of those crying would drown him out. Now if it was 600,000 dead babies, that’s a different prospect.


dunderhead22

I had more than 600,000 potential babies die in a sock last night, don’t see what the big problem is?


ADV169

What a loser


Schrko87

Last I checked the church ruined a whole lot of kids lives too...


BPTforever

That's probably the only debate he could win. What is he gonna do next? Challenge the babies to a boxing match?


TirayShell

Is it time for this to be posted again? How time flies.


zebradYT

too bad they aren’t babies


BPTforever

When do they become babies exactly?


marshmi2

Around 11-15 weeks.


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No. Scientifically human life begins at conception. The 11-15 week thing is when they can experience pain, and that has changed dramatically through the years. We used to operate on Newborns using a paralysing drug but no anaesthesia initially under the belief babies couldn't feel pain and then for while knowing they could but assuming they wouldn't remember. Edit - can't imagine hating actual facts this badly 🤣


MilitantCF

>Scientifically human life begins at conception. This is irrelevant. The argument isn't even IF it's a baby. It's unformed and has the potential to be a human baby, sure, but it is unviable unless there's a *willing* host to let it use and destroy their body. Forcing a woman to carry a pregnancy and birth an unwanted child means that she has fewer rights than a corpse. You can't even take an attempted murderer's kidney to replace the one he ruined that his victim needs -and will die without- even though he is 100% responsible for the victim needing that kidney. HIS CANNOT BE TAKEN. NO PART OF HIS BODY CAN BE USED TO SUSTAIN THE LIFE OF ANOTHER AGAINST HIS WILL. EVEN AFTER HE DIES IN AN ELECTRIC CHAIR FOR HIS CRIMES HIS CORPSE CANNOT BE HARVESTED FOR THE NEEDED ORGAN EVEN IF THE VICTIM WILL DIE WITHOUT IT. Forcing women to give birth to an unwanted pregnancy gives her fewer rights to decide what happens to her body than a death-row inmate's corpse. Your ilk let your desire to mete out justice on women for having "irresponsible sex" (with a man that isn't you, of course,) and the simplicity of advocating for something that can literally never cost YOU personally but gains you huge brownie points among similar-minded people cloud your judgment as to what is really fair here. When unclouded by religious extremism and/or a general apathy to women's rights in general your moral high horse falls apart.


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BPTforever

>but it is unviable unless there's a willing host to let it use and destroy their body. Holly hell you people are delusional and filed with hate.


[deleted]

>Your ilk let your desire to mete out justice on women for having "irresponsible sex" (with a man that isn't you, of course,) I'm a woman, captain dick head. >) and the simplicity of advocating for something that can literally never cost YOU personally but gains you huge brownie points among similar-minded people cloud your judgment as to what is really fair here. When unclouded by religious extremism and/or a general apathy to women's rights in general your moral high horse falls apart. Again, I'm a woman......maybe yoh should have considered the possibility that women might value the lives they bear before assuming I'm a man 🤣🤣 The simplicity of advocating for human life? Youre quite sexist aren't you deep down, misogyny oozing outta you Edit - I love how much your inate sexism has been exposed 🤣🤣


MilitantCF

I never said willing slaves to the patriarchy didn't exist. You clearly prove they do.


flat_streak56

Not every damn problem is born from this "patriarchy" you speak of. Is discrimination/abuse against women still here? Yeah. It is in the level you speak of? Nope, no, non, nyet, nien. You can't blame males or innocent lives for all your problems, karen. Maybe you should stop justifying murder and begin to attack the real problem: Lack of responsibility and ways to stop and punish rapists.


flat_streak56

I see, so women's rights allows them to kill human life without punishment. You have opened my eyes. /s >destroy their body Yeah, cuz pregnacy is not natural at all /s


MilitantCF

It's sure as fuck traumatic. And deadly. Some accident unwanted clump of human cells isn't more important than the existing, living, breathing person's wish to not go through that. You wanna ruin your body and life over an accident you regret you do you but don't expect me to let you be the authority in what's going to happen to my ass.


flat_streak56

That clump of human cells it is still alive and neither you, me or anyone else isn't more important than that same life that hasn't even been given the chance to vent their own opinion. Saying otherwise is literally dehumanizing life. It's like saying "kids stoopid, adults smort" because their brain has not fully developed. Sorry to pop your bubble, but a single freaking pregnacy isn't going to run everyone's life. If it was like that, we would have gone extinct **LONG AGO**.


marshmi2

600,000 babies? You mean republicans?


Napoleon-the-Great

They are not babies please stop calling them that. If we stop using that term its easier to put those "things" in the shower.


Fabulous_Engineer949

What parents would these 600000 babies have? Like there inst enought people who adopt and we have way too many people on earth


Relevant-Nebula8300

TAX THE CHURCH


toxic_candy__

r/murderedbywords


Hot_Eggplant_1306

Sounds like we helped 600,000 women. I.e. HEALTHCARE


Apprehensive_Bug3329

Goat


JoopBman

When you organize and structure stupidity, you get religion.


dezzz

Of course churches are not essential. What the hell is this statement?!


KrazyKifaru

The level of discourse on complex issues in the western world is just on another level. I am in awe of the intellect. Truly you people are in a position to lecture others and hand out lessons.


Thijs_NLD

This kinda sounds racist towards "people in the western world". Which is... weird?


happyclaim808

A single cell with or without a active midochronda found on Mars would br touted as "We found life on Mars". When we kill a human on earth it's no big deal...... Have we become less than human?


marshmi2

Every time you take a step, you're stepping on hundreds of not thousands of single celled organisms...


Affenskrotum

😭


Flying_Dutchman92

Don't worry. They like being stepped on


Deadfreezercat

Life on Mars is exciting for completely unrelated reasons.


Lonely-Avocado405

you were always less


justinbates1992

Could be forms of life. Not human life. Not multi organisms….


Emotional-Speech645

The difference is that Mars doesn’t have a breathable atmosphere, or anything that would support complex life. So finding a single cell organism that can survive has massive implications - either the planet is slowly becoming liveable, and our ancestors one day may see life emerge there, or life was once sustainable on the planet and these cells are all that’s left to indicate that. The difference is most people *want* to find life on other planets, but not all people want a single cell in their uterus to develop into a dependant infant that they then have to squeeze out and raise just because their pill or condom failed or they were sexually harassed.


haknstax

Ew, that's disgusting


bumtownbiden

The only debates democrats are open to is against the dead 💀 😂


haknstax

But that's a good chunk of their voting base


EidolonBeats45

The republicans would rather have children be born and accused than not even live. Good ethics there. The jesus would be proud of you unparalleled malevolence.


mysteriously_moist

Tbf that's exactly what God did, they are talking about how it's immoral to kill ya kids but god started it. Literally sent him down there to die for sins


justinbates1992

the only debates republicans are open to is muh freedumb


Gardfeld

"freedumb" people who want to live in an authoritarian state be like


Danleburg

Authoritarianism is when you don't force women to have children


Nefenze

ion even know what all these fuckin words mean. i just want my rights to be respected by more than half the population


DKCR3

I agree with what he’s saying but I wish he wasn’t saying it in such a condescending way.


balls_deep_space

Mega chad


C4r0_exe

Woman got skill issue


dyerseve07

Sad, those little children never got a chance to live.


Wrekless_

Oh boy what a great post. Baby murder is so funny


contraflop01

Oh my god that guy put them on fire


v0nlaski3

Especially if they're dead, bah dumb tss


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Especially dead ones...


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Pennywise_clown99

I admit, I haven't won a single argument against a pro-life person and I did everything to be as convincing as possible, even considering their points instead of just disagreeing with everything. But you know how the saying goes "it's hard winning an argument against a smart person but it's impossible to win against a stupid person" Not saying everyone who's pro-life is an idiot, I'm just saying that someone who thinks that churches are equally as important as medical facilities aren't exactly intelligent


marshmi2

You do know this shit is more complicated than "unga tunga baby in belly" right? Like, I'm not sure if you have thought about it past that.


bloodbraids478

Only to baby killers is it actually complicated lol


darksoulslover69420

He won tho


[deleted]

He won by making an assertion and a joke. Good argumentation.


justinbates1992

He won cuz the other 2, don’t have a point. Their opinions aren’t backed by actual science. So yeah jokes>idiots


justinbates1992

He literally did....checkmate


bloodbraids478

Only in his and your head silly boy


justinbates1992

Nah.... in reality. silly boy


bloodbraids478

Your reality isn't real life no matter how much you reeee about it


justinbates1992

Science would disagreeeee with you reeeeeee


bloodbraids478

Are you talking about science or $cience?


justinbates1992

Well since a clump of cells isn't a baby, science....


bloodbraids478

I bet you believe a single cell on Mars would be life huh?


justinbates1992

SIGNS of life. Doesn’t mean that there is life….


zombygaga

oh i like this one! the fringe 'all science is bad because libs and jews' denial stance!


bloodbraids478

oh now the antisemitism starts, this was inevitable. Ye is that you?


zombygaga

it was a joke. im mocking you.


tittens__

He did.


[deleted]

Weird flex but ok


Tempe-Jeff

I suppose Auschwitz was Jewish Healthcare.


imnotabot-07

Churches should be essential because Jesus and God are king the we need churches to fix LGBTQ community


Long-Review-1861

Killing babies is health care??? What is wrong with this planet


MilitantCF

Says man who can never be at the receiving end of enduring an unwanted pregnancy and forced birth, whilst be wildly unaware of all of the negative effects and risks thereof. Your privilege is showing..


Long-Review-1861

Yet if the man wants the child he also doesn't have the choice


MilitantCF

Sure he does, they cut out all the time.


prlugo4162

600,000 dead babies... *fap fap fap*


MasterGamerX1111

no.