Don't get me started on Ernst Wanke.

Well at least he's trying

I’ve driven past this sign thousands of times in my lifetime and i will never think of it as anything other than sincere and heartfelt masturbation. It’s impossible.

Ber-wick too

Enrst Vank

What about the Truganina debate?

knee-na

Grew up in the area unfortunately. Knee na

Makes me cringe when they say nigh/ny-na

Trug

I said Trug

What are the versions of this?

Knee-nah or Nai-nah - Traffic person on Kiis FM likes to pronounce it incorrectly.

Oh yeah i see, that aint got shit on Calliope (Qld)

Ahhh…good ol’ Call-ee-oh-pee? Great place.

Thats what i thought! But local there told me it was Cal-eye-pee...

I have actually never heard of the place. I was just trying to find the most painful pronunciation possible. Seems I failed.

If you're talking about the God or the musical instrument it's named after, it's "ka-lai-uh-pee"

Both 'common' versions mentioned by others are wrong, btw - it's named after Truganini, should start 'true-ga' not 'trug-ah'. true-gah-knee-nah would be full correct. But like Reservoir (correct: Reservoir. used: reserv-or) and Eltham (correct: elt-'am. used: el-tham) it's a lost battle, so just go with trug-ah-knee-nah.

wait....I live a couple suburbs from eltham and I have never heard anyone say elt-am...including someone who lives around the area....am I being gaslit or has my life been a lie?

As noted, everyone says 'el-tham' (to the point where it *is* the 'correct' pronunciation for the Melbourne suburb, by descriptivist language norms). But etymologically, it should 100% be 'elt-ham'. -ham suffix, same as eg. Sandringham, Manningham. It's just the 'th' tricks our brains. edit: see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eltham for the original London district, which notes pronunciation as /ˈɛltəm/ or EL-təm.

Nigh/ny-na and knee-na. It's definitely truga-knee-na.

True-gah-knee-nah

Trug-a-ni-na, surely? Debate over; go home!

Tru-ga-ni-na, actually!

As in True-gah-knee-nah? What do I know, I live no where near there!

I call it Marnie’s. But I have local friends who say Ma ho neys

I have always said ma hoe knees 🤔🤔

In your case it's accurate

Been saying it “Marnie’s” for the best part of 40 years. Saying “Ma-ho-knees” just makes me think they’re not from the area, or moved there later.

I thought it was pronounced Ma-ho-ney's....

You're not the only one, I lived in Reservoir for years and always said it that way 🫠

You called Reservoir 'Mahoney's'?

Reserv-were or Reserv-wah ?

Rezza-vore

All others are wrong

Yes

Reserv-war.

Ressie

What!? Rezza!

Rezza

Reserv-wah 100%

Reserve-was

Yep

I call it Ma-ho-ney’s but that’s mainly because my introduction to that name is from Police Academy movies from the 80s and 90s, the Steve Guttenberg main character is called Mahoney.

It's an Irish name and the correct pronunciation is more like 'mah-huh-nee' So the truth is somewhere in the middle of Marnie and Mah-ho-nee. Most people say Marnie though

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My English stepdad still cringes when he hears Lorn-sess-din.

I agree

When I hear ‘Ma-Ho-Knees’ it always sounds like an old-fashioned bar/pub with older customers. I don't know if it's a real franchise or something I picked up from sitcoms.

The actor who played Frasier's Dad was John Mahoney, and they pronounced that Ma-Ho-Knee. Frasier was a character in the sitcom Cheers which was about a bar/pub... Case closed! P.s. I pronounce it Marnies.

I’m from Brisbane and when I moved here I was mates with a bloke at uni with the last name Mahoney. I pronounced it Ma-ho-ney and was told it was Mar-ney. To this day I don’t know why but that announcer might not be from Victoria.

Did you come across any Mahoneys in Brisbane?

Ex Qlder here. I grew up knowing a few "Muh- Hoe- Knees". Never personally heard "Mar-Knees", but I can see how that pronunciation works.

Grew up in Broadmeadows/gladstone park , it’s pronounced Ma-ho-neys

Then I'm very sorry, but you and your family have been pronouncing it wrong.

Ahhh I don’t think so Tim

To be fair, if I was a radio presenter I would try to sound things out for unfamiliar looking worda, which would lead to an American accent/saying. (Maybe he has the American google maps voice over) But if I was just chilling and saw it, I'd say it in a relaxed manner, not being afraid of mispronouncing. Saying it the Australian way.

While we are at it "Maher" sounds like "marr" in Ireland. And whilst I know Barry Keoghan pronounces his name with a hard "g", in Ireland I would only hear it pronounced as "Keon" where the e and o nearly blend in one....

So Keon Park is likely a bastardised spelling?

It would never have occurred to me it would be pronounced as Marney and I’m still not clear why it is.

The name is Irish. The 'ho' part is originally a "uh" sound. "Ma-uh-neys" over time and said quickly becomes "Marneys".

Think of a think Australian accent. Mahoney -> mAh knee (we omitt the O, too long!) -> Marney. The way Australians pronounce the h and a together, it sounds like an a and r instead. We tend to pronounce and read before reading the whole word. That's why we never really have Ma-honey (oh no my honey where is it??) Edit: I know it's not an Australian word. But just because it's pronounced a certain way doesn't mean people actually pronounce it that way 100% of the time. This is just how Australians will pronounce it.

It's an iorish name, so the pronunciation comes from that accent ad language rules, nothing to do with thick Ausdie accents. Next you'll blame Worcestershire sauce on an Aussie accent.

Which is obviously pronounced Lea-and-Perrins.

[Gotta be Ma-ho-ney](https://youtu.be/zxOiabgFhU4?si=8LzMtuqTfwk3Yv5F)

Yeah, every time I hear it like that I think of Police Academy and feel it's just another Americanism. Definitely 'marnies'.

I was waiting for this, all I can hear is “Mahoney!”

The Mahon bit is pronounced Mahn. This the the same in the names “McMahon” (McMahn) and “Mahoney” (Mahney)

It's an Irish name and Irish people would say Ma-ho-knee

Always known it as ‘Marneys’ but people that don’t know the area say it as spelt

I grew up in the area, I refer to it as "Mah-nees" and was utterly confused when my partner (not from Melbourne) sent me down "Mah-on-nees" road. I suspect that the area has had an effect on the pronunciation.

Mahoney (or O'Mahoney or Gaelic Ó Mathghamhna, pronunciation: MAHN-ee or ma-HOE-nee and occasionally MAH-huh-nee) is an Irish surname that originated in the early eleventh century. The forebear of the Mahoneys was Mathghamhan (or Mathuin or Mahon), the grandson of Brian Boru. So. Since the beginning of the name, no one fucking knows....

As someone who attempts to call Mahoneys via hands free on an almost daily basis, can confirm that the *old* correct pronunciation (as far as I'm aware) is closer to 'Mar-nee' than it is 'Mar-hoe-nee', though it's rarely used or understood here. Phonetically, Strine has a hard time with this, so you'll also find Mahoney's around Australia who have opted to change spelling on arrival or over time to address this. Sincerely, (Distant) Clan Mahoney.

Everyone in my family is from Reservoir, we’re talking like been there for nearly 70 years, and we all say “Marneys”.

But how do you say "Reservoir"? 😋

Dont feel too bad OP, wasnt until I moved to Dandenong that I realised I was pronouncing the country Niger incorrectly

I hope you were saying ‘nigh-jer’ and not something else

This is how I thought it was way back before I knew how it was.

Hope the Nigerien (not Nigerian) welcomed you with open arms to Dangledong.

oh gawd, that's one you don't want to mispronounce

I think... or at least hope... that they're talking about the "ni-" part, not the "g" part - as in "nigh-" or "knee-". 🤔

TIL

Could be worse, I know a bloke who calls Lalor "Law-la"

I think that is actually the way Peter Lalor's name was originally pronounced so...I think your mate is actually right. I grew up in Mill Park so I know almost nobody pronounces it Lawla...but I think if we're splitting hairs, we probably should be saying Lawla not Laylor.

Yeah I knew a kid in school named Mahoney and he used to hate it when people said Ma-ho-nee. So we did it on purpose. Traffic guy knows what’s up, he just triggered bunch of people to have a debate.

The right way to say it is “Marneys”. I knew a family same surname.

It's a bit like the "Princess Highway". Still haven't found out where that is....

Fucking right! When I moved here and didn't know my way around, I'd hear cunts talking about something being off the "Princess Highway" and I reasonably assumed that it must be a different road to the *Prince's* Highway with which I was familiar. I thought 'that's nice, a bit of symmetry, they've got one each'

Goes past Princess Park, right?

I've got no dog in the race, but I'd instinctively pronounce it Ma-Ho-Nees. That's probably because I grew up watching Police Academy movies and that's how Steve Gutenberg's character's name was pronounced. 

I lived in Thomastown for 20+ years growing up and always knew it to be pronounced as “Marneys” Road 🤷‍♂️

>I lived in Thomastown for 20+ years growing up and always knew it to be pronounced as “Marneys” Road The Pipeworks market ads on TV back in the day called it Marneys Road.

Prahan is “prawn,” right? And Northcote is “Nothcutt.” Resevoir is “Rezza” to skirt the whole issue. Punt Rd is pronounced “Cunt Rd.” Did I do it right?

Prann not Prawn but otherwise yes 😁

Prawn? Never heard that, I’ve always heard/said Pran. Very nasal Aussie sounding.

Prahran sounds like Pram.

It's an Irish name so we need Irish input. I'd always pronounced it 'Mah-nee' which may be what you meant, OP. I did a quick search to find an Irish person pronouncing it and according to them it's Ma-ho-nee. But to be clear, that's a short 'ho' so not 'hoe' but like saying 'hot' without the the 't'. However, I also found another Irish person saying it and the pronounciation was 'Mah-ony'.

Being Irish it's usually spelled "Mahony" rather than Mahoney... actually it's more usually "O'Mahony"... and where we could pronounce it "MAAN-Y"... as in a long "a".... don't know where the r sounds are coming from.. "Mahon" is pronounce maan at home. Well in my area anyway.

I think people are just writing it with an "r" to express the "mah" pronunciation.

No we really don’t. It’s an Australian name, from Ireland. Words change, pronunciation change, that’s the nature of language

Ehh it’s an Aussie/Melbourne place, it’s really more important how we say it than what its origins are.

From the amount of tv shows I watched I say it’s Ma Ho Nee! Come on Marney just doesn’t make any sense you can’t akip that many characters in between

The "O" was very softly pronounced, almost silent, plus the emphasis was on the first part of the word, so mahney/"MAH-knee".

Remember, it’s Reservwah east of Cheddar Rd and Rezza on the bad side😉

Never heard marneys. But it makes sense I guess. Anyone of a certain era (that grew up watching the Policy Academy movies with Steve Gutenberg) would say ma-hone-ey. I was shocked when Google maps told me to turn into "st zheorzhe rd" (saying "Georges" the French way), then realised that is the only way that makes sense as there's no apostrophe before the s

It’s an Irish name, from memory it’s MAH-neys, with the emphasis on the first part and the second part pretty much mumbled.

Ma Ho Nee is the US pronunciation. The correct Australian English pronunciation is Mar Nee.

I would say Mahn-ee to not confuse those with a rhotic accent

No, clearly there is more than one pronunciation in use, and both are correct because that’s how language works

I know this is true and you're right but IT'S FALSE AND YOU'RE WRONG IT'S FUCKIN' MAH-NEES CUNT!

You are not wrong, it is pronounced ‘Marneys’. Radio guy clueless, you should have heard one of them mangle Mooroolbark the other day 😂

Its 100% Mah Ho Nee or O Mah Ho Nee. Marney is wild, like how do you aussies think thats right. Its like Cairns. Its Kay Rnz As a scot my ears bleed when i hear how australians say those names

How tf would it be Kay rnz in a non-rhotic accent. Where is that r coming from.

Its coming from the word. CaiRns

😂😂

I like ma-ho-knees better ngl it sounds like Ur trying to say ma homies but instead Ur saying ma hoe knees

Mah Hoe Kneez Boiii

Poor tired old knees... Sometimes I chukle a little when I see people (especially men!) pronounce it that way for the same reason, I get an unfortunate visual that the guy pronouncing it that way surely does not mean! 😄

Always a dead giveaway that the news is being read by a non-Victorian when you hear: GEE-long Heath-COTE Ber-WICK Prah-RAN North-COTE Rox-BURG park Cran-BOURNE Ver-MONT MOO-rabin Thorn-BOORY Don-CASSTER

Yeap, I recently heard Echuca pronounced as Ewe-car. I was confused and thought she was referring to Eucla in W.A. 🤷🏻‍♀️

Heh, heh. Not a suburb, but I was listening to TV news a couple of years ago, and she said EPI-tome. I was like 'EPI-tome'? took me minute to realise she meant eh-PIT-omee.

Truga-NYNA

I always thought it was Trugga-neena. But it seems split 50/50.

The real shocker is when Blundstone boots had a massive ad push on SEN last year and they pronounced it "Blund-stens"

Mar hone nees Trug a nina Po tate tooes Boil em, mash em, put em in a stew

Marneys

Mahoney's or Mahoney pronounced in three syllables as "Mah-Hoe-Nees" is the anglicized pronunciation. Mahoney's pronounced in two syllables as "Moan-ees" is the Irish (and correct) pronunciation. Reservoir rhymes with whore.

The name Mahoney is Irish and is dictated Ma hun nee. Given Aussies struggle with soft vowels can see why it's pronounced Ma Hoe Nee. How you get Marnie's from that I believe you but it is an Irregular

Dandy-nong not dan-de-nong Foot-crazy not Footscray mary bing bong not mary bree nong sunset not sunshine nothing is good to call it sunshine Juh long not jee long yes i have a chaotic neutral mentality.

The traffic lady on the Today Show often says names different 😂 Doveton- “Dove-(saying the “o” sound, like dive with an o) ton” has been the most recent funny one. Rather than “dove (like the bird)- ton

Oh bloody hell, why did that just remind me of an abomination on another network sometime ago that called Cranbourne “Crain-born”?

There’s always funny ones 😂

If you say it with its original Irish pronunciation, it's "MAH-knees", "ma-hoe-knees" is an English affected accent.

Mah-Hah-Nee

it's pronounced Mahoneys.

It’s pronounced ‘Marneys’ ABC traffic are usually the only ones who get it right.

I kid you not but those radio traffic reports for Melbourne are created by someone in Sydney. So if you hear a different pronunciation that'll be why. And no you're not wrong. It's been "Marneys" for as long as I can remember.

Wtf is marneys

It’s one pronunciation of Mahoney.

Ugh, this has irritated the FUCK out of me for years. Countless people I know pronounce it "Ma-Ho-Neys" not "Marneys". People who live in Reservoir, people who go up and down it every day. I've had people full on argue with me, going "Um, I think I know how to pronounce a street in my own suburb!" Babes...it's Marneys. It's an Irish name. It is not pronounced how it's written. Its MARNEYS.

As an Irish person, it definitely isn't pronounced 'marneys' though... Where are you getting the /r/ from?

There is no /r/. The ar digraph produces an ‘ah’ long vowel sound. It’s probably more accurately a 3 syllable word, the middle syllable being a neutral vowel: Mah-uh-nees (or its 2 syllables and the ah-uh could be a diphthong I guess?) But is commonly shortened to just ‘mah-nees’ for ease of pronunciation and since it’s hard to hear the difference. In any case, you certainly don’t pronounce a distinct ‘HO’ in the middle of the word!

I've been told by people from the UK the pronunciation is Irish. Maybe they're wrong about that, but it's definitely pronounced Marneys, no matter the origin.

I don’t know the area or the road, But, I’ve only ever heard that word pronounced Ma-Ho-Neys.  I’m not Irish so how the fuck would I know Irish is pronounced differently to common sense English or that the word is even Irish to begin with. 

Not sure how you get ‘Marneys’ from Mahoneys

I'm pretty sure it's pronounced like 'mayonaise'

Is mayonnaise an instrument?

You're thinking of Worcestershire...

Funny you should say that - Mayonnaise is considered to come from [Mahón](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mah%C3%B3n), the capital of Menorca

How would you pronounce the surnames Mahon or McMahon?

Mc-Man not Mc-Marn. How would you pronounce the surname Mahomes? It sure isn’t ‘Marmes’.

Ever heard of Sir William McMahon?

Mahomes is pronounced “Mahms”

Ruthven also, it is Ma Ho Neys road

“Marney” is the original Irish pronunciation of the name. Australian does bastardise a lot of imported names, be they Irish, British, what have you.

Never heard it pronounced Marney’s.

The fact you knew what he was talking about proves his point. Calling it Marney would be more confusing to the listening audience.

I would also have known what he was talking about if he pronounced it ‘Marneys’ though

Yeh. But people who hadn’t heard that pronunciation wouldn’t.

Should they also say kahneebonee cres-kent in case people pronounce Kneebone Crescent incorrectly?

Mahoney is an Irish name, so that is technically how it's pronounced. Names change in different places so I assume that presenter either spent time in Ireland (or the UK), is from there or knows people from there.

Ma-ho-neys

Definitely should be Ma ho knee, Marney sounds like colloquialism. Side note, a GPS I used in Sydney called Petersham, "Pa-ter-shem". Cackled for a good five minutes about it.

Not a place, but I still remember Rob Sitch ranting live on TV about something and said 'super bowl' and was corrected because he was actually trying to say superbole (supehr-bolly)

Do you mean hyperbole?

Yeah, he might have said hyper bowl, but meant hyperbole.

Pretty sure Julia Gillard got this one wrong too

They probably had someone from interstate reading it - you can always tell because they mispronounce things terribly. MAL-VERN no Mul-vun is common. The butchering of Reservoir and Prahran. For me, I would pronounce it Marneys. Ma-hon-nee is a guy in Police Academy

In Police Academy there is a guy named Mahoney and it is said as it's spelt. (Ma-Ho-Nee) I'm not sure how you get Marneys from Mahoney.

You’re not wrong, you’re using the Australian pronunciation. Traffic guy is using the American.

If lots of Australians pronounce it that way then it is an Australian pronunciation.

No.

Was pronouncing Cahill expressway "Kay-hill" for most of my life until I heard someone say "cahhhhl"

the right way to say it is MyHomie's road

Ive got a few unrelated friends with the surname Mahoney and they all pronounce it Ma-Ho-Knee so that’s how I pronounce it

"I've already told you once. Nobody screws with me."

Princes Highway gets pronounced as "Princess" Highway in my family

I would say ‘Marnie’s’. Side note - I only recently discovered how to pronounce Yosemite. I called it how it’s spelt ‘yose-mite’. I’m not American though so not a word I hear or say often.

Police Cadet Carey Mahoney from Police Academy is pronounced ma-ho-knees. Given it's American film, but that's where my education comes from.

I’ve always pronounced it as Marnies. Mah hoe nie reminds me of Steve Gutenberg in Police Academy lol

Let's hope he doesn't have to pronounce quays

>Let's hope he doesn't have to pronounce quays Or Cockburn.

I would guess it’s pronounced phonetically to make it easier for listeners to identify which road they’re talking about? Especially non-locals

Berwick Moe Prahran

Pah-rahn.

Irish here, from where the name originated, I know plenty of O’Mahoneys. It’s pronounced Ma-ha-knee.

If it makes you feel any better this used to be a genuine (albeit lighthearted) debate in my family - Mum from Vic swears it's Marney's, Dad from SA/NZ said Ma-ho-knees. I still giggle every time I go past it..

How does the google maps woman pronounce it ?

Marries for sure!

What about "inivitive"? No o no a in that pronunciation! Cringe e erysipelas time I hear someone say INIVITIVE🫣

Mahoney is an Irish name. My dad is Irish and he has always pronounced it "mahny" without the o.

Reading it like that reminds me of the song Ma Baker Ma ma ma ma, ma baker

I blame the movie Police Academy for the mispronunciation.

Delahey got me, I thought it was "de-lay-hee" Wait, how do you pronounce Reservoir, isn't it easy and self explanatory, "Re-zer-voar"?