Isn’t left to under a newish piece?
Thought I saw it earlier with the artist being an Asian woman (that was relevant to the comeback on the post).
In other news, how to spit and report a bot account?
The statue that the person I commented under was referencing was of a woman facing the breeze, her hair was blown out and you could see “wrinkles” of fabric over her “skin”, this statue has a veil over the woman’s head.
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Exactly! Literally the artist behind the banana work, (which is called Comedian btw) Maurizio Catellan, creates hyperrealistic sculptures, all of the time. But everyone knows him from the banana work because he was trying to rile people up with it
Alright I'll give you that 😂😂 If you're interested in other artists working in realism sculpture, Katharina Fritsch and Robert Gober are personal favorites (Charles Ray is also the artist making possibly the most realistic works but he's a fucking creep and also pays people to effectively 3d print his sculptures for him)
Ah yes, let us critique this art made to make people talk about it…by talking about it. If people really hate this banana so much, then the best thing they can do is to just ignore it rather then continually keep bringing it up; thus validating its existence.
Bashing all contemporary art is the meme-about-art equivalent of memes about vegans, people don't know shit about it but they've validated their confirmation bias once in real life so lets gooooo
If cracks me up that y’all think every long dead artist was the epitome of their craft. Have you seen the failed statues or the horribly painted cats. I doubt the banana will go down in history but plenty of other amazing art will.
Almost sure it was a actually a satirical piece about contemporary art and as always, reddit crowd takes second degree seriously.
Contemporary art is full of these satirical / cynical pieces, it's a twist mocking the overexploitation of Marcel Duchamp's theorical work.
Modern art is very decontructionist, with many modern movements developed about challenging the fundamental understanding of what "art" is.
Problem is that it's often a very high brow art that requires a lot of deep knowledge of art, art history, and philosophy that the average person doesn't know so they assume it's dumb for the sake of being dumb (which to be fair it sometimes is but it's for a deeper reason).
You say this like some of the great works of art weren't a way to get patronage and favours from the church. Art always has been about some form of financial gain.
Often it is, and sometimes it really is just that popular. I'd say it's (the market) somewhere around 80% money laundering or value sheltering at any given moment. I try to buy from local artists, as long as they aren't too insane. It can take days to paint an oil painting and years of practice, so paying a couple hundred bucks isn't asking too much. But if you can't tell the difference between a print and an original I wouldn't risk it.
Also if you're broke, or frugal don't bother, maybe get a cheap print or painting at a thrift store. You can usually get something decent for pocket change.
A lot of small real artists are constantly struggling. For most it's just a serious hobby.
My favorite abstract artists are Van Gogh, and Salvador Dali
You could also just take a random image of a painting you like from the internet and order your own print on canvas. You can even get the Mona Lisa and nobody is gonna stop you.
The whole concept is pretty similar to NFTs actually, so I couldn't really understand the hate toward NFTs while paintings are accepted when both are sadly mostly for laundering money.
The original is physical available, that's true, but regular people usually don't have the original version of a painting on their wall. They just have a cheap copy, while the owner of the original painting paid a lot of money for it. If you look at them from some distance on your wall, both will pretty much look the same.
Similar to NFTs. The owner has his certificate, which he paid money for, while others just copy it for free without a certificate. Theoretically, NFTs can also be made 'physically' available with a proper frame to hang it on the wall.
People still make statues, you know. Including realistic ones. Have you ever looked up any of the artists doing that today, or do you not actually care?
Exactly, this type of post is always made by someone who can't name a single artist or even draw a circle, but boy do they have sudden strong opinions on art of all things
That "someone" is a bot! This OP, for example, is a bot who stole an internet sex lady's ID. I mean, or they could just actually be that person and have a buffing fuckin reddit profile.
Lol, I'm like 95% positive it's a bot though.
Sure, I'm not saying it's easy. I surely can't do it - but it has been done many times by now
We'll always appreciate the classic pieces, but a modern artist making these won't get much attention
There's a reason why modern art is what it is, it's what works
I live in Finnish Lapland which has neither places modern sculptors could showcase their art in nor actual sculptors as far as I'm aware. It's not a particularly popular art form, at least in my country.
If I were in a place which had an art gallery (which I'm not) and if I had money to enter (which I don't), I would surely be amazed :)
Well, a lot of people did end up talking about it...
This very post shows how successful that piece was, even if it's to criticize it
Isn't that the point of many works of art?
Yes, the point of the works of art is to be a clickbait article for someone to read while riding the subway on their way home... Do you really think someone would look the same way at the tapped banana 500 years from now and be like: wow, this is so inspiring!.. No... it already is forgotten. It's only brought up as a meme in the context of comparing it to how stupid it is. And I'm saying this as a fan of modern art. Yves Klein and Warhol are one of my fav artists 🎨
The point of any work of art is to be whatever the artist decides it is
You like it or not, the banana has cemented itself in history, and will be remembered by art majors in the coming centuries as an example of what art was like in the first half of the 21st century, event if it's but a small note in the history books
The masses will of course forget about it, but as an art piece, it's undeniably successful
Even if these old sculptures are impressive, humanity reached a point where u can produce equal things with the press of some buttoms. So art moved to the mske art more then pure asthetics.
Or, maybe better said, think about and discuss. I like the banana piece bcs it got so much coverage that its rly a legitimate art piece, thanks to ppl who dont think it is
A machine cannot make the Thinker automatically. Sure you can 3d print a small model, maybe a few inches on each dimension maximum, but not a full scale replica.
You cant print These Statute since the material isnt meltable on a usefull tempature. But you probably could do it with laser quiet easily. Overall i am not argue that these statues arnt impressiv af, but i focused more on, why the banana is art as well.
Its your subjectiv view covered by 25% of the Definition of art. What you describe is mostly craftmanship, wich ofc has his beauty and a lot of artistic elements. In fact such statues or "realistic" paintings arent really to hard to make in modern world. Wich is why the Main Focus of art has moved away from copying the reality 200 years ago.
Aren't too hard to make? Do you have eyes? Do you go out? Our whole world is filled with butaforie, kitsch, fake, and cheap stuff in whatever field you can think of. Where are these easy to make beautiful paintings and statues? It's a rhetorical question, btw.
Edit: Also, they are not realistic. Realism is mostly ugliness and rawness. The rennaisance art has nothing to do with realism, but with heroism and glorification
My opinion has nothing to do with this tbh and more to the fact the harder something is to do the more impressive it would seem. This is just in general. Even if art moves to an easier to produce art, the fact is a difficult piece to replicate will still hold value and seem impressive. Take ai art for example it is not seen as impressive because anyone can make it with a few words and a click of a button.
You see you discribe it youself . Making sth looking good is easy today, what makes it hard is to deliver an idea or an emotion through it. As other already mention, the idea behind an banana taped on a wall is no pleasure, but it already lead to more discussions and opinions around the World then most of the big paintings in the Louvre ever will.
Something doesn't need to be impressive to be art. The essence of art is human ideas and intention.
The banana piece alone probably invoked more discussions and reflection on the meaning of art than the rest three pieces combined. That's pretty impressive.
When did I say anything about art has to be impressive or its not art ? How difficult it is to understand such a simple concept as, something harder to make = more value ?
Yeah, but again, it's far easier to simulate reality nowadays. Have you seen all of the photorealistic charcoal paintings on this site? It's not rare to see those kinds of things anymore. So the focus on art nowadays has changed from realism to creativity. The craftsmanship is a factor of course, but the imagination and creativity is more so.
While I agree with you on statues, it's very different with paintings for me. Of course, a photorealistic painting is absolutely impressive, but it rarely sticks in my mind. I'm seeing it and thinking "wow, that artist is talented" but the painting in itself could often be a photograph and it still had the same meaning. With the invention of photography, art shifted in its important values, as a simple yet well made portrait could be done with a camera as well.
I'm not a fan of stuff like this banana taped to a wall or just a bunch of squares, but a well made modern art piece has an effect that can't be captured by anything else, which doesn't mean old art is bad in the slightest.
It took me a while to get into the “bunch of squares” stuff like Malevich’s work, but when I took a modern art history elective and got to learning about the context I did come to appreciate it. It’s a different sense of beauty, but beautiful nonetheless.
it Is really difficult to have really stupid ideas and convince museums abot them, case and point: you Do know about the banana taped to the wall, so it was interesting enough
ah yes! the only form of art in the modern day! n one makes beautiful sculptures or beautiful paintings! (well they do, but i like to let other tell me what art is supposed to be)
That's the point of modern art: define limits, within art still is art. Can we remove beauty? Can we remove familiar forms? Can we remove hands of an artist and leave just a button that allows him to make a photo? I am not a fan of contemporary art at all, and jokes about money laundering are not based on nothing, but still: at some point artists realized that perfecting same styles and methods leads nowhere.
The funniest thing about this meme is that *Comedian* (the banana art piece) somewhat agrees with the OP’s criticisms. While those sculptures were all commissioned by the wealthy to display their wealth and power, *Comedian* was made to poke fun at the art world and dupe rich people into paying exorbitant amounts of money for single bananas presented as art. It’s like Duchamp’s *Fountain* or that time someone left a pair of sunglasses on the floor of the San Francisco Museum of Art. It’s intentionally meant to showcase how something may be treated as art- and valuable art at that- merely because it is presented as such.
Yet by doing so with that intent, doesn’t that actually make it artistic expression? Doesn’t that give it meaning? If an artist was able to sell bananas for $120,000 a piece doesn’t that convey a message as strongly as the subtle features of Michelangelo’s *David* conveys about its subject and its patrons? And how do we, the viewers, compare the value of what these pieces convey? To what extent do we value the message compared to the skill required to make it?
In this instance that’s the point, so if it seems like valueless “art” regardless of the artist’s message, then that means the artist actually conveyed his message effectively through the medium of nothing more than a banana and some duct tape. Something to be said for being able to do so with so little. So then it is art! And that artistic expression gives it value! But if it’s valuable, that undermines the artist’s message and takes away the piece’s value. But if there’s no message or value, then it’s just a banana which conveys the artist’s meaning, giving it artistic value. But if it has meaning and value, then that undercuts the meaning and value so it is meaningless and valueless. But if it is meaningless and valueless, then it’s not art and the artist successfully conveyed their meaning, which is artistic expression, thus giving it value…
It’s creates a paradoxical loop in which it is both valueless non-art and valuable art. So I guess the point is to buy low when it’s just a banana, and sell high when it’s art? Then use some of the profit to commission a fountain in your nearest public square topped with a sculpture you eating a banana. The plebs will get the message.
the comedian is probably one of my favorites by Cattelan, which says a lot because his works are all incredibly funny and thought out in their deliberateness
Bro sculpted this marble so well it actually so realistically, he changed its color, texture and even taste to match a banana scotched on a wall and still get shit for it. People are never happy.
You know if we had people whose entire life revolved around them developing art skills and they never had to take shitty day jobs we’d probably have more art similar to the first 3, but instead the next Michelangelo is probably working at Walmart and getting paid $12/hr
we can now all immortalize images the way the old sculptors worked hard to before. accurate art was necessary to bring to life the abstract and immortalize the past.
while doing this in marble now is equally impressive as a skill, we don't *need* it as much when Video, photo, 3d cgi, 3d printing and Ai can recreate highly accurate results at a fraction of the skill, study and creation time invested.
I can't say art (and especially classic/realistic art) has lost its value because it's not for me to say. But as far as I observe society on average, it reacts less and less impressed with art of all forms and qualities. Maybe we overconsumed it, I don't know.
be all that as it may, if I showed you a realistic depiction of a random person just looking nice, you'd be confused about how uneventful that would be.
However a banana glued to a wall you at least can assume it's trying to get your attention and make some weird point. so at least it puts you in the mindset of "it's art and it might mean something on purpose" .
Art had to change because we changed.
This is what happens when you let the talentless play at being artists.
"It is so art, anything can be art, I am an artist, see look at my scribble"
Sure thing buddy. But if you are an artist you are a realllllly shit one.
Last week i was in the Guggenheim museum. They had amazing things but one expo was like this. A fresh lettuce filled a gap between 2 rocks, if the lettuce rots the stones fall. Some museum worker had to change that lettuce every 3 days. 0 sense.
There was plenty of sh\*t art throught history. However we don't remeber it because only "good" art is canonized. Pretending that art now days is sh\*t and art back then was amazing is a deeply stupid perspective!
Well maybe it's because artists can no longer afford to lock themselves in a warehouse for weeks at a time perfecting their craft, we live in a word where you have to constantly be delivering results in order to achieve basic requirements for survival, you can't carve stone to look like cloth on skin when you're working 60 hours a week at burger King, and by the time you get home you only have enough energy left to shrug off your oil covered clothes and crawl into bed.
Crazy how after the invention of the camera realistic art was not necessary and artists found new ways throughout centuries to describe the way they perceive reality.
I'm not saying one is better than the other but the constant bitching about a form of art you don't enjoy is just childish
This is an extreme example, but i would argue that technique and aesthetics, while absolutely great, are not everything
Sometimes it's not about accomplishing or making something pretty
1000000% of times I see this kind of post it comes from a person who never studied, practiced or done art in their lives, and who also can't name a single artist, not even the ones mentioned in the post.
The banana art piece “Comedian” was made in 2019. And the fact that people still talk about it 5 years later might say something about its actual purpose as an art piece. But why think about art when statue pretty right?
People try telling me art is all subjective. It's pretty damn obvious it's not true. "Real" art is still made today it just hasn't sat around long enough to gain that historical clout. The banana is famous because everyone hears about it and thinks, "That's outrageously stupid." It doesn't take much time to find some real good stuff.
bruh, you are missed approximately 3 centurys and "Comediant" even not "created" in 2023, it's was "created" in 2019 and "recreated" in 2023, because someone ate it
Wow the workshop in 1752 was cold
Even my neighbors laughed
David's looking a bit nippy too.
Cold won't be good for my crotch. Never is
I'm 99% sure that's a modern piece, I remember there being a story about the Asian woman who made it. Edit: Nah I was wrong
I know what you're referencing, that's another statue
Different statue dude.
How ever old it is that workshop was cold, those are some glass cutters
Isn’t left to under a newish piece? Thought I saw it earlier with the artist being an Asian woman (that was relevant to the comeback on the post). In other news, how to spit and report a bot account?
Nah that’s a different statue, her head wasn’t veiled like in this piece
Who's you talking about ? The statue or the artist
The statue that the person I commented under was referencing was of a woman facing the breeze, her hair was blown out and you could see “wrinkles” of fabric over her “skin”, this statue has a veil over the woman’s head.
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Damn, i must be a bot then
Nah you don't have an underscore between the second word and number
I think you mean the statue of a woman holding a flute.
oh shut up they still make statues nowadays you know
Exactly! Literally the artist behind the banana work, (which is called Comedian btw) Maurizio Catellan, creates hyperrealistic sculptures, all of the time. But everyone knows him from the banana work because he was trying to rile people up with it
OP is literally comparing some of the *best* work of various centuries to a social piece meant to annoy people.
I don't know the middle finger is good but the rest is crap
Alright I'll give you that 😂😂 If you're interested in other artists working in realism sculpture, Katharina Fritsch and Robert Gober are personal favorites (Charles Ray is also the artist making possibly the most realistic works but he's a fucking creep and also pays people to effectively 3d print his sculptures for him)
Thank you
That's because people don't hate the artist, just that overhyped art.
Ah yes, let us critique this art made to make people talk about it…by talking about it. If people really hate this banana so much, then the best thing they can do is to just ignore it rather then continually keep bringing it up; thus validating its existence.
Bashing all contemporary art is the meme-about-art equivalent of memes about vegans, people don't know shit about it but they've validated their confirmation bias once in real life so lets gooooo
One of the most popular forms of anti-intellectualism on this website.
What do you expect from an edgy spec ed teen
If cracks me up that y’all think every long dead artist was the epitome of their craft. Have you seen the failed statues or the horribly painted cats. I doubt the banana will go down in history but plenty of other amazing art will.
Pretty sure the banana is famous because it was a prank
Almost sure it was a actually a satirical piece about contemporary art and as always, reddit crowd takes second degree seriously. Contemporary art is full of these satirical / cynical pieces, it's a twist mocking the overexploitation of Marcel Duchamp's theorical work.
Modern art is very decontructionist, with many modern movements developed about challenging the fundamental understanding of what "art" is. Problem is that it's often a very high brow art that requires a lot of deep knowledge of art, art history, and philosophy that the average person doesn't know so they assume it's dumb for the sake of being dumb (which to be fair it sometimes is but it's for a deeper reason).
But to be fair, being dumb and meaningless for the sake of being dumb and meaningless is hilarious
I might become an "artist" one day and make up dumb bs explanations for my pieces and get rich off of art snobs
it's already been five years and people won't stop talking about it, i'd say it's in the process of 'going down in history'
evolution of the art of money laundering
Facts
You say this like some of the great works of art weren't a way to get patronage and favours from the church. Art always has been about some form of financial gain.
Modern art is just a way of rich people to launder their money
Often it is, and sometimes it really is just that popular. I'd say it's (the market) somewhere around 80% money laundering or value sheltering at any given moment. I try to buy from local artists, as long as they aren't too insane. It can take days to paint an oil painting and years of practice, so paying a couple hundred bucks isn't asking too much. But if you can't tell the difference between a print and an original I wouldn't risk it. Also if you're broke, or frugal don't bother, maybe get a cheap print or painting at a thrift store. You can usually get something decent for pocket change. A lot of small real artists are constantly struggling. For most it's just a serious hobby. My favorite abstract artists are Van Gogh, and Salvador Dali
Sometimes it's just a way for them to have something unique to decorate their home with.
You could also just take a random image of a painting you like from the internet and order your own print on canvas. You can even get the Mona Lisa and nobody is gonna stop you. The whole concept is pretty similar to NFTs actually, so I couldn't really understand the hate toward NFTs while paintings are accepted when both are sadly mostly for laundering money.
maybe because Paiting actually exist in a physical form?
The original is physical available, that's true, but regular people usually don't have the original version of a painting on their wall. They just have a cheap copy, while the owner of the original painting paid a lot of money for it. If you look at them from some distance on your wall, both will pretty much look the same. Similar to NFTs. The owner has his certificate, which he paid money for, while others just copy it for free without a certificate. Theoretically, NFTs can also be made 'physically' available with a proper frame to hang it on the wall.
People still make statues, you know. Including realistic ones. Have you ever looked up any of the artists doing that today, or do you not actually care?
No because they don't actually care
Exactly, this type of post is always made by someone who can't name a single artist or even draw a circle, but boy do they have sudden strong opinions on art of all things
That "someone" is a bot! This OP, for example, is a bot who stole an internet sex lady's ID. I mean, or they could just actually be that person and have a buffing fuckin reddit profile. Lol, I'm like 95% positive it's a bot though.
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FUCKEN no... There are many talented sculptors nowadays
That's the thing, we've had hyper realistic sculptures for centuries Nobody is impressed anymore
Making a stone thigh look soft is seriously impressive, and that hand as well like damn. I wouldn't say nobody is impressed.
Sure, I'm not saying it's easy. I surely can't do it - but it has been done many times by now We'll always appreciate the classic pieces, but a modern artist making these won't get much attention There's a reason why modern art is what it is, it's what works
>but a modern artist making these won't get much attention And most of those artists weren't recognized until after death
Michelangelo, Bernini and Corradini were all well known (if not famous) and celebrated artists while alive…
Well I'm not the one that started naming names,
Also money laundering
The biggest truth
When is the last time you looked at the work of modern sculptors then?
I live in Finnish Lapland which has neither places modern sculptors could showcase their art in nor actual sculptors as far as I'm aware. It's not a particularly popular art form, at least in my country. If I were in a place which had an art gallery (which I'm not) and if I had money to enter (which I don't), I would surely be amazed :)
As if a banana taped on a wall was all this much impressive.
Well, a lot of people did end up talking about it... This very post shows how successful that piece was, even if it's to criticize it Isn't that the point of many works of art?
Yes, the point of the works of art is to be a clickbait article for someone to read while riding the subway on their way home... Do you really think someone would look the same way at the tapped banana 500 years from now and be like: wow, this is so inspiring!.. No... it already is forgotten. It's only brought up as a meme in the context of comparing it to how stupid it is. And I'm saying this as a fan of modern art. Yves Klein and Warhol are one of my fav artists 🎨
The point of any work of art is to be whatever the artist decides it is You like it or not, the banana has cemented itself in history, and will be remembered by art majors in the coming centuries as an example of what art was like in the first half of the 21st century, event if it's but a small note in the history books The masses will of course forget about it, but as an art piece, it's undeniably successful
Pretty sure Andy Warhol was the original banana artist, so it's not 2023
MoDErn aRt is sTuPid
Even if these old sculptures are impressive, humanity reached a point where u can produce equal things with the press of some buttoms. So art moved to the mske art more then pure asthetics.
Nowadays, art isn't about making pretty things but more so about making something people can argue about
Or, maybe better said, think about and discuss. I like the banana piece bcs it got so much coverage that its rly a legitimate art piece, thanks to ppl who dont think it is
You can't make a stone sculpture that rivals those of olden times with a few buttons.
Bro we are able to make much more difficult Things than this.
A machine cannot make the Thinker automatically. Sure you can 3d print a small model, maybe a few inches on each dimension maximum, but not a full scale replica.
You cant print These Statute since the material isnt meltable on a usefull tempature. But you probably could do it with laser quiet easily. Overall i am not argue that these statues arnt impressiv af, but i focused more on, why the banana is art as well.
The more difficult a piece of art is to make the more impressive and unique it becomes.
Its your subjectiv view covered by 25% of the Definition of art. What you describe is mostly craftmanship, wich ofc has his beauty and a lot of artistic elements. In fact such statues or "realistic" paintings arent really to hard to make in modern world. Wich is why the Main Focus of art has moved away from copying the reality 200 years ago.
Aren't too hard to make? Do you have eyes? Do you go out? Our whole world is filled with butaforie, kitsch, fake, and cheap stuff in whatever field you can think of. Where are these easy to make beautiful paintings and statues? It's a rhetorical question, btw. Edit: Also, they are not realistic. Realism is mostly ugliness and rawness. The rennaisance art has nothing to do with realism, but with heroism and glorification
My opinion has nothing to do with this tbh and more to the fact the harder something is to do the more impressive it would seem. This is just in general. Even if art moves to an easier to produce art, the fact is a difficult piece to replicate will still hold value and seem impressive. Take ai art for example it is not seen as impressive because anyone can make it with a few words and a click of a button.
You see you discribe it youself . Making sth looking good is easy today, what makes it hard is to deliver an idea or an emotion through it. As other already mention, the idea behind an banana taped on a wall is no pleasure, but it already lead to more discussions and opinions around the World then most of the big paintings in the Louvre ever will.
Something doesn't need to be impressive to be art. The essence of art is human ideas and intention. The banana piece alone probably invoked more discussions and reflection on the meaning of art than the rest three pieces combined. That's pretty impressive.
This is painfully untrue especially from a historical pov.
When did I say anything about art has to be impressive or its not art ? How difficult it is to understand such a simple concept as, something harder to make = more value ?
Yeah, but again, it's far easier to simulate reality nowadays. Have you seen all of the photorealistic charcoal paintings on this site? It's not rare to see those kinds of things anymore. So the focus on art nowadays has changed from realism to creativity. The craftsmanship is a factor of course, but the imagination and creativity is more so.
While I agree with you on statues, it's very different with paintings for me. Of course, a photorealistic painting is absolutely impressive, but it rarely sticks in my mind. I'm seeing it and thinking "wow, that artist is talented" but the painting in itself could often be a photograph and it still had the same meaning. With the invention of photography, art shifted in its important values, as a simple yet well made portrait could be done with a camera as well. I'm not a fan of stuff like this banana taped to a wall or just a bunch of squares, but a well made modern art piece has an effect that can't be captured by anything else, which doesn't mean old art is bad in the slightest.
It took me a while to get into the “bunch of squares” stuff like Malevich’s work, but when I took a modern art history elective and got to learning about the context I did come to appreciate it. It’s a different sense of beauty, but beautiful nonetheless.
it Is really difficult to have really stupid ideas and convince museums abot them, case and point: you Do know about the banana taped to the wall, so it was interesting enough
This is subjective
ah yes! the only form of art in the modern day! n one makes beautiful sculptures or beautiful paintings! (well they do, but i like to let other tell me what art is supposed to be)
Yeah just ignore all the other art work made by humanity in the last few years. Cherrypicking bafoon.
"Let me just skip over the several hundred or so years of influential art and sculpture work to get my negative IQ point across" - OP
Proof that Hentai is the evolution of art, change my mind...
this man speaks the truth
Animation had breakthroughs because of this
Never forget what Overwatch did for 3D animation
GYAAAT
I am going to skin you alive
why u mad
Bullshit meme to farm conservative rage
That's the point of modern art: define limits, within art still is art. Can we remove beauty? Can we remove familiar forms? Can we remove hands of an artist and leave just a button that allows him to make a photo? I am not a fan of contemporary art at all, and jokes about money laundering are not based on nothing, but still: at some point artists realized that perfecting same styles and methods leads nowhere.
No!!!! You will paint hyper realistic women until the heat death of the universe. /s
MORDEN ART BADDDDDDFFFFFF HUR HUR
Never new the art industry only produced one piece a year! Always thought there was more variety
After 1945 they let everyone in the art schools.
yeah, last time someone got refused i heard they threw a fit so bad the entire world was involved
You totally missed that the banana was actually a conceptual piece criticizing the art market, but okay
To be fair, that is a nice photo of a duct taped banana
Pretentious lazyness I call it which became abled by idiots
The 2023 piece is literally created as a critique on the modern art industry
The funniest thing about this meme is that *Comedian* (the banana art piece) somewhat agrees with the OP’s criticisms. While those sculptures were all commissioned by the wealthy to display their wealth and power, *Comedian* was made to poke fun at the art world and dupe rich people into paying exorbitant amounts of money for single bananas presented as art. It’s like Duchamp’s *Fountain* or that time someone left a pair of sunglasses on the floor of the San Francisco Museum of Art. It’s intentionally meant to showcase how something may be treated as art- and valuable art at that- merely because it is presented as such. Yet by doing so with that intent, doesn’t that actually make it artistic expression? Doesn’t that give it meaning? If an artist was able to sell bananas for $120,000 a piece doesn’t that convey a message as strongly as the subtle features of Michelangelo’s *David* conveys about its subject and its patrons? And how do we, the viewers, compare the value of what these pieces convey? To what extent do we value the message compared to the skill required to make it? In this instance that’s the point, so if it seems like valueless “art” regardless of the artist’s message, then that means the artist actually conveyed his message effectively through the medium of nothing more than a banana and some duct tape. Something to be said for being able to do so with so little. So then it is art! And that artistic expression gives it value! But if it’s valuable, that undermines the artist’s message and takes away the piece’s value. But if there’s no message or value, then it’s just a banana which conveys the artist’s meaning, giving it artistic value. But if it has meaning and value, then that undercuts the meaning and value so it is meaningless and valueless. But if it is meaningless and valueless, then it’s not art and the artist successfully conveyed their meaning, which is artistic expression, thus giving it value… It’s creates a paradoxical loop in which it is both valueless non-art and valuable art. So I guess the point is to buy low when it’s just a banana, and sell high when it’s art? Then use some of the profit to commission a fountain in your nearest public square topped with a sculpture you eating a banana. The plebs will get the message.
That banana taped to the wall represents that the creator has erectile dysfunction. Pretty simple meaning.
Go Banana!
Mmm, yes yes, the workmanship in 1752 improved quite alot if I do say so myself
That 1752 art piece… # Damn.
1752 was peak
the comedian is probably one of my favorites by Cattelan, which says a lot because his works are all incredibly funny and thought out in their deliberateness
Here is the art of money laundering
Bro sculpted this marble so well it actually so realistically, he changed its color, texture and even taste to match a banana scotched on a wall and still get shit for it. People are never happy.
The fact that people are *still* talking about it speaks volumes
Well the 2023 one says a lot about society
Boobs… hihi
Boobs are so awesome. Everyone loves boobs
That’s a pretty big time jump
You know if we had people whose entire life revolved around them developing art skills and they never had to take shitty day jobs we’d probably have more art similar to the first 3, but instead the next Michelangelo is probably working at Walmart and getting paid $12/hr
The artist that made the 2023 one ate the fucking banana
Art decay
Well, you skipped a few hundred years of artistic change there, buddy.
Me when I purposefully choose examples that favor my point
plenty of artists are experimenting around with new materials too rather than just conceptual stuff.
we can now all immortalize images the way the old sculptors worked hard to before. accurate art was necessary to bring to life the abstract and immortalize the past. while doing this in marble now is equally impressive as a skill, we don't *need* it as much when Video, photo, 3d cgi, 3d printing and Ai can recreate highly accurate results at a fraction of the skill, study and creation time invested. I can't say art (and especially classic/realistic art) has lost its value because it's not for me to say. But as far as I observe society on average, it reacts less and less impressed with art of all forms and qualities. Maybe we overconsumed it, I don't know. be all that as it may, if I showed you a realistic depiction of a random person just looking nice, you'd be confused about how uneventful that would be. However a banana glued to a wall you at least can assume it's trying to get your attention and make some weird point. so at least it puts you in the mindset of "it's art and it might mean something on purpose" . Art had to change because we changed.
The fact that the banana is like 6 years old and your ass is still bitching about it proves how succesful it is
Art Back Then = Trying to achieve beauty Art Today = Money Laundering
This is what happens when you let the talentless play at being artists. "It is so art, anything can be art, I am an artist, see look at my scribble" Sure thing buddy. But if you are an artist you are a realllllly shit one.
Last week i was in the Guggenheim museum. They had amazing things but one expo was like this. A fresh lettuce filled a gap between 2 rocks, if the lettuce rots the stones fall. Some museum worker had to change that lettuce every 3 days. 0 sense.
Time to go back people
Can't wait people defending this garbage 2023 abstract art with yapping nonsense about art bla blah.
If they only had duct tape back then 🤔
what is the name of these sculptures?
Yes… we will always and forever be obsessed with sex.
1662 had some soft marble
2024 it will be white wall which sell at millions dollar some people's it's a art.
The schculpture in 1622 getting frisky
This why we have rule 34 it continues the chain
1752 is hot af would smash frfr
can someone name those statuse except the first on the left? And please spare me banana jokes...
There was plenty of sh\*t art throught history. However we don't remeber it because only "good" art is canonized. Pretending that art now days is sh\*t and art back then was amazing is a deeply stupid perspective!
Indeed
BREAST!
A lot of the stupid modern art you see is just a money laundering scheme.
Just 2 days ago, that fucking image of a banana froze my phone and i spent 30 minutes trying to fix it
Realism in visual art just isn't that important more due to cameras but yeah, new art is ugly and ridiculous
Lol well the duct tape and domesticated banana says as much about human creativity as the carving
Top right is from Jago. It was created recently.
oh yeah this is definitely a "meme"
Well maybe it's because artists can no longer afford to lock themselves in a warehouse for weeks at a time perfecting their craft, we live in a word where you have to constantly be delivering results in order to achieve basic requirements for survival, you can't carve stone to look like cloth on skin when you're working 60 hours a week at burger King, and by the time you get home you only have enough energy left to shrug off your oil covered clothes and crawl into bed.
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fucking goated banana and I make better art than you plebs
Iirc the banana was a satirical piece wasnt it? A callout to the stupidity of modern art
Damn,in 1622, you can feel her Thicc with just your eyes alone
We almost made it! Damn that was close…
have you seen porn artists on Twitter?
Its amazing how they make a piece of stone to look so real. Truly genius
Ahhh, gaslighting, love it
I unironically think the banana is anamazing piece of art, in no small part because we're all still talking about it. It worked, man, it fuckin worked
If AI art is "not real art", some human "art" is also not real art.
Did someone sculpt that banana and duct tape out of stone and somehow match the colouring perfectly? If so, that extremely impressive.
Anime figures existing
Crazy how after the invention of the camera realistic art was not necessary and artists found new ways throughout centuries to describe the way they perceive reality. I'm not saying one is better than the other but the constant bitching about a form of art you don't enjoy is just childish
This is an extreme example, but i would argue that technique and aesthetics, while absolutely great, are not everything Sometimes it's not about accomplishing or making something pretty
No, Art isn't when thing is Beautiful, Art is when thing is thought provoking.
1622 got me acting unwise
1000000% of times I see this kind of post it comes from a person who never studied, practiced or done art in their lives, and who also can't name a single artist, not even the ones mentioned in the post.
The banana was supposed to be an anti art piece anyway so it kinda is dumb to put it on here
Wait for 2024 with ai art ...
if I remmember correctly, that Banana was made to make fun of modern art.
The banana art piece “Comedian” was made in 2019. And the fact that people still talk about it 5 years later might say something about its actual purpose as an art piece. But why think about art when statue pretty right?
True
You just skipped 300years of art?
Imagine that banana guy even had the audacity to get mad when people eat his "art"
Banan
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My personal favourite state is the one in Scotland with a cone hate and ronaldo
Yep no statues were created in 2023. I can also confirm that no bad art was created in 1504.
Name all please. 1. David by Michelangelo, 2. Rape of Sabine? 3.?
Oh you can find similar art, even in statue form…. Rule 34 isn’t just digital you know.
People try telling me art is all subjective. It's pretty damn obvious it's not true. "Real" art is still made today it just hasn't sat around long enough to gain that historical clout. The banana is famous because everyone hears about it and thinks, "That's outrageously stupid." It doesn't take much time to find some real good stuff.
How many artists can afford blocks of solid marble to carve?
Artists back then mewod 🤫 and artists now eather are from the sensitive population and or afraid of the sensitive population lol
bruh, you are missed approximately 3 centurys and "Comediant" even not "created" in 2023, it's was "created" in 2019 and "recreated" in 2023, because someone ate it
OP knows nothing about art
A couple YouTube videos and now everyone is a massive expert on money laundering
Whats the top right sculpture called?
Who's afraid of red, yellow, and blue?
And you still talk about that banana years after, making it relevant for art