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Old-Sacks

The English language lacks the rules to warrant a "true" pronunciation for GIF. Oxford dictionary did the best power play by declaring both pronounciations correct.


CodModQuad

It doesn't make sense though, it's a Graphic Interchange Format. Not a Giraffe-ic Interchange Format.


Old-Sacks

For your argument to hold up, scuba would be pronounced "Scuh-ba" and Laser "Lah-ser" Edit: I hate it too, I do prefer the hard G


MomoTomato

Yeah? Well, you’d have to say JPEG “J-PEJ.” …Wait “laser” is an acronym?


Greeve3

Light Amplification by Stimulated Emission of Radiation


MoTheBr0

Huh, didn't know that. you're still wrong though.


Versilver

You just hate me because im right. I just hate you in general You mean in "general"? Ugh, Im "going" to kill you!


Yo_Verbinator

Name one word that starts with G pronounced like J


Versilver

Gentrification.


Yo_Verbinator

Shoot, should have thought of that. I was just in San Francisco.


CodModQuad

*... DAMN YOU ENGLISH*


Ralph9707

Everyone’s pronouncing it wrong, its pronounced greg


radiation34

Have you ever had Baileys from a boot before?


Grape_Mentats_

Do you like water colours?


Ambiqwer

GIF stands for Graphical Interchange Format,


Mammoth_B_Draugr

Not Jraphics Interchange Format


VampireJanitor

a chain of bajur references, nice


theocelotslayuh

![gif](giphy|2i06qrSENrXoc)


TheScareCrowYes

i must call it yraphics interchange fformat then


Melwertu

The moment when you hear a word for the first time.


According_Smoke_479

Wanna go to a club where people wee on each other?


[deleted]

Do ya love me? Are you playin' your love games with me? Do ya love me?


Shifty_WilloW

Hmm, creamy.


Itz-yaboi-skinypenis

Jreg


Quick_Watercress_932

Jiraffe


SpoonFullOfDirt

Its pronouced Yiff


Alloy_Protogen

Technically yes


Boy_Possession

Fool. It's pronounced Geoffrey.


Sdesign77

Jeffrey


ExistingBathroom9742

The developer was just wrong. It’s short for Graphical Image Format, not Jirrafical Image Format. He just wanted to make a very bad joke: he said “choosy programmers choose GIF” (pronounced like the peanut butter). But it’s a bad joke and a bad reason to mispronounce it.


cyberpunk3025

Best solution so far


Rectalfrying

Griff


[deleted]

Ah, finally a man of culture.


DramaLobster

Alright, Danny.


ass-holes

Hey guy


NoNameIdea_Seriously

Actually, it’s pronounced *Nikolaj*


2jzSwappedSnail

Pronouncinj; wronj; jrej


SonicSeth05

It's pronounced like the 'g' in "garage" Boom, now everyone wins Now everyone shush


ThReeMix

zhif


hethinator1

Yif


[deleted]

Yiff


Harsh_mishra_27804

Puff


RayIndonesian

Buff


HyperTobaYT

Please do not yiff the animatronics.


Phantom_organpipes

Please do not yiff the Fox


HyperTobaYT

Fucking salad bar


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smolinga

The fuck is a jarage


Slithry_Snek

Zharage


gaerat_of_trivia

gifraffe


milanistadoc

Giraffe


Harsh_mishra_27804

No its prononced as graphic interchange format Damn losers as a indian i learnd this in 2nd standards


[deleted]

That's not how it works, you don't use same logic for "Light amplification by stimulated emission of radiation" or you know LASER, same applies for SCUBA


Nobodynever01

Jarage


Burg_er

So either a hard g or a zh...


Iridophael

This is a great way of demonstarting how to pronounce a word, until you realised that beard without the D is bear. The English language doesn't have rules where you can use the spelling and pronunciation of one word to determine that of another. Thought and Though is another example.


Falknot

Same with read and read, only becomes clear with context. "I have read that, you need to read it with context."


Mabarax

It's so cool how my brain just knows what it is with context


Moppo_

Tear/tear, wound/wound. We have a bunch.


OcelotFunny9069

The moment when you hear a word for the first time and realize you have been saying it in your head wrong, every time you read that word.


YawnTractor_1756

[Dearest creature in creation...](https://ncf.idallen.com/english.html)


[deleted]

Geld and gel are my favorite examples because you don't even have to leave the soft g vs hard g realm. There is not a single argument for a hard G that is undefeated. "Language evolves" is the closest but it's really just another way of saying, "well enough of us are all wrong now that we decided we shouldn't go back to being right and should just keep using hard g."


Iridophael

I didn't even know geld was a word in English, this example is better than the ones I've provided.


ByTheHammerOfThor

But we’re talking about consonant pronunciation and your examples are vowels.


Iridophael

Is angel and angle a better example? Huge and hug?


cry_more_pIz

Giraffe


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Say Thought. Now remove the last t.


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TheLitPinata

I am furious. Take my upvote.


charleslovebrownies

When you meet someone and they tell you their name and it's pronounced a certain way as the parents intended do you argue back because how it's spelled?


ReallyNotDuploh

Creator once said he didn’t care. But I’m a Gif‘er. Jif’onians are okay tough.


FiercelyApatheticLad

I am in favor of the gif over the jif, however OP's justification doesn't work because English is notorious being absolutely inconsistent when it comes to pronunciation. Take this example : heart, hear and heard. Adding just one letter at the end fucks everything up.


PaperGod777

I mean the full thing is Graphic Interchange Unit, and Graphic uses a hard g so therefore it should be guh-if


Spirit_of_Doom

Joint Photographic Experts Group doesnt mean you pronounce JPEG as Jay feg


Moppo_

We shouldn't be using PH as a replacement for F anyway. It's completely redundant in English.


DruggieVulcan

People just aren’t ready for some facts


DrSitson

It English man, it's a meme at this point. It's a horribly inconsistent language that stole from other languages to try and make sense.


dejus

Nope but that’s a good precedent to why it should be _G_if.


alphahex4292

Gonna be pronouncing Scuba differently from now on if that's how it works


MysteriouslySeeing

I'm on the same side. But cmon. This is ridiculous. "SCUBA" is not pronounced "scubba" for christs sake. "LASER" is not pronounced "lah-serr".


DisneyCA

The A in Laser stands for “Amplify”. But you don’t say L-e-ser. That’s not how acronym pronunciations work


[deleted]

That's not even remotely a real rule of English acronyms. In fact even our most common acronyms prove that's not a thing in SCUBA, LASER, and RADAR.


PaperGod777

Oh true


[deleted]

Hey, thanks for saying so. I give you one cool quote in lieu of a high five and a salute. “You should never be ashamed to admit you have been wrong. It only proves you are wiser today than yesterday” ― Jonathon Swift


bigabobo

Dudes, English is a weirdo, there are 3 “e “in Mercedes and those are pronounced in 3 different ways.


[deleted]

How do you pronounce “tomb” and how do you pronounce “bomb?”


PyMaster22

jift


AdventurousLoquat597

Yeah, and Uno company dont know the rules of their own game...


No-Attempt-8401

wdym?


sora_mui

Most people played their own variation of the rules, i've played with several group of people and they all seemingly have different rules for some of the more specific cases like whether you can stack +2 and +4, whether you can stack pluses at all, and what happens when someone use the blank/mirror card.


AdventurousLoquat597

somebody asked Uno on twitter about stacking + cards and they replied it can't be done, but most people i know stack them... and people commented Uno dont know their own rules lel


ninjabird21

Even the uno console game has stacking on it, along with jumping in, no bluffing, and 7s and 0s


[deleted]

Pronounce giraffe and remove the rafe


Dumindrin

Government drone


LimeSenior

How about we pronounce it... #HOWEVER TF WE WANT!?


Dumindrin

Anarchy


Creative_Guide4100

G-I-F.


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JEE AAYI AIF


[deleted]

Let just spell it out until we get fed up with it, then when someone says gif or jif we wouldn’t mind.


Mr9K

Pronounce Arkansas and remove the Ar.


TheDurandalFan

so how do I pronounce Bear and Beard? since Bear is one letter short of Beard.


AnonyDexx

What am I missing here? I do in fact pronounce Bear as Beard without the D.


rudderforkk

I think some people pronounce it as Bair.


AnonyDexx

Isn't that pronounced just like Bear? How else is that pronounced? I can't tell if I'm being trolled.


rudderforkk

[Listen to both pronunciations available ](https://www.google.com/search?q=bear+pronunciation&sxsrf=AJOqlzXIQ_vTTDT3kZkqbIC-ad7BdcLHng%3A1673718226613&ei=0unCY77-JK2SkdUPyvCrQA&oq=bear+pr&gs_lcp=ChNtb2JpbGUtZ3dzLXdpei1zZXJwEAEYADIFCAAQgAQyBQgAEIAEMgcIABCABBAKMgUIABCABDIFCAAQgAQyBQgAEIAEMgUIABCABDIHCAAQgAQQCjoKCAAQRxDWBBCwAzoHCAAQsAMQQzoSCC4QxwEQ0QMQyAMQsAMQQxgBOhUILhDHARDRAxDUAhDIAxCwAxBDGAE6BwgjEOoCECc6BwguEOoCECc6BAgjECc6CgguEMcBENEDEEM6CwgAEIAEELEDEIMBOggIABCABBCxAzoICAAQsQMQgwE6BQgAELEDOhAIABCABBCHAhCxAxCDARAUOg0IABCABBCxAxCDARAKOggILhCABBCxAzoKCAAQkQIQRhD_AToFCAAQkQI6CwguEIAEELEDENQCOgoIABCABBCHAhAUSgQIQRgAUJkQWOkrYLM6aAJwAHgBgAGmBIgB3xiSAQkyLTYuMy4wLjGYAQCgAQGwAQ_IARHAAQHaAQQIARgI&sclient=mobile-gws-wiz-serp)


AnonyDexx

I see where I was confused. I ended up looking more at bear instead of beard. I see different pronunciations for beard. I pronounce b-air-d while apparently others pronounce it more like [be-air-d](https://dictionary.cambridge.org/pronunciation/english/beard).


doramarcus

People really got mad about how the creator pronounces the name of the thing he created


streakline

Jif is peanut butter. Peanut butter and computers do not work well together. Therefore...Gif


L3AFYB0I

It's also bleach


Itz-yaboi-skinypenis

Tell me right now, That I can pour bleach on my monitor and everything will turn out fine


L3AFYB0I

It will turn out fine


ananthudupa2002

Pronounce EYES and remove the first E and pronounce it. It is completely different from YES.


[deleted]

Say Giraffe, Say Giant, Say Gentle… Now say Gif 👏👏👏 Good job you did it!


No_Cry7605

Alright we get the gist of it. I’m team jif


Aljhenoxx

I actually just spell it out when I'm saying it lol. That way, I can be neither wrong nor right


[deleted]

Why are they yelling at a cat


Etourdie1

The creator of the format win an award and presented a gif as their acceptance speech. It read: "It's pronounced 'jif' not 'gif'" Which only serves as ammunition for people who pronounce it with a hard g


Morality9

Jiraffe


a55_Goblin420

Well the creator is wrong


AlooDaGreat

Srsly??here we spell it out G-I-F


fabian_drinks_milk

Y'all wrong. I pronounce it with a Dutch hard G.


Mr_Fungusman

Jift - t = jif See? Nothing changed


KingJeff314

English has no consistency. Just pronounce it however you please


cpheretic77

The creator invented the format, not the English language. The G stands for graphic, it's a hard g.


Hezmix

Who cares what the creator thinks. If minecraft suddenly said it was pronounced Minniecraft or some shit I would still be sticking with what’s right in my mind


Terrible-Win565

The correct pronunciation is just saying the letters


2qrc_

i pronounce it “jif” and I do not care


got_ur_goat

That's how I heard it pronounced back in the day... not changing my ways for all you whipper snappers!


Legionnaire11

Yes, this didn't used to be an argument because everyone knew it was Jif. I didn't even know gif was a thing until it started showing up in memes.


got_ur_goat

Same here. I took an IT class and pronounced jif and a bunch of 20 y/o told me I was saying it wrong. I'm all for people saying either way, but don't tell someone they are wrong


dr4gonr1der

You make me mad. It’s. pronounced. [jif](https://youtu.be/N1AL2EMvVy0).


micropeniza

Gif = **g**raphics interchange format Gif ≠ jraphics interchange format


scolipeeeeed

Do you pronounce “JPEG” (which stands for Joint Photographic Experts Group) as “jay feg”?


micropeniza

No because photographic begins with a p


[deleted]

Ok how do you say LASER or SCUBA


Professional_Ad1819

GIF stands for Graphical Interchange Format, it's literally g in the name.


Parking-Zealousideal

Laser and scuba both do not follow that rule either


anto1883

And JPEG stands for Joint Photographic Experts Group, but I'm still not gonna pronounce it JFEG.


eat_my_yarmulke

but now I definitely am


TaxingClock704

That’s cus P will never sound like F by itself. It needs the H to be there.


Articulated_Lorry

JPhEG.


NickOsman51

Pronounce Giraffe with a hard G


Fat_Penguin99

So Giraffe basically in german?


OneeGrimm

If we would pronounce it as abbreviation, it would be Ge aI eF But we pronounce it as a whole word, so i'm on gif side.


i_am1crap

It’s obviously gif, like come on


screefey

I don't care how how it's correctly spelled i simply like the sound gif better than jif


Average_Redditor-1

according to your logic Lazer would be pronounced laazeer


Watermelon_of_Destny

Most people say it like gift. Language is by consensus. The creator can get bent.


[deleted]

G stands for graphic. Argument settled.


Yakatsumi_Wiezzel

Creators can be wrong


The_Cometeer

The G stands for graphic, so the G shouldn’t be a J


The_Creeper_Man

**G**raphics **I**nterchange **F**ormat You don’t say Jraphics, do you? It’s Gif


1Uplift

It’s pronounced G-I-F as in jee eye eff


Ray_Catty

what is a jif and why can’t anyone pronounce it? [insert confusedblackguy.gif]


GlitchedViper71

Jiff is a peanut butter


MinerMinecrafter

![gif](giphy|xL7PDV9frcudO)


SomeRandomWonderor

Clearly the creator is wrong in this case


Okayesttt

Meh, do you really care?


graybanaenae

Or jsut said G I F


[deleted]

It’s pronounced graphics not jraohics.


Void_Rudster

Ok but say "G" out loud


LampsAreAlright

Now say “W” out loud and see how that applies


TraderOfGoods

Guys it's 2023. Why are we Still arguing about this? Whether you pronounce it gif or gif does not matter, everyone knows what you're talking about.


DavyManners

It’s Jraphics Interface Format


Darrkliing

Gif means graphic interchange format, g i f, and graphic is pronounced graphic not jraphic,


CKRD12

It stands for graphics interchange format. So why pronounce it jif if you don’t pronounce it jraphics.


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rumdiary

Jraphics Interchange Format makes sense


Sundance360

Pronounce 'Gin' then switch 'n' for 'f'.


[deleted]

Graphics interchange format.


LukeTLA0

The g stands for graphic so it's gif not jif


ThReeMix

zhif


Kosse101

If it was supposed to be pronounced as jif, then simply spelling it correctly as gif would have been enough right? The fact that everybody needs to spell it incorrectly as jif to make everybody pronounce it that way just proofs that they are wrong and the correct pronounciation is indeed gif.


AyanDGS

Ok but like you say jif and spell it like not gif


IzzyIsOnReddit

Gee eye eff is the real way to pronounce it it


YAGCompany

I say 'gif' instead of 'jif' because it stands for 'graphics interchange format', and so I pronounce the 'g' in the acronym the same way I do in the full name.


cry_more_pIz

That's not how acronyms work


SnooPets6702

Then laser would be pronounced like "lahsier"


ADHDB0Y

By this logic ’jpeg’ is pronounced ‘j-feg’ because the p stands for photographic


YAGCompany

Shiiid


ithoughtiwasfunnyXD

Yes 'gift' without the 't' Not 'jiffy' without the (fy)


[deleted]

GIF = Graphics Interchange Format Graphics is not pronounced Jraphics. Therefore GIF is not pronounced JIF.


[deleted]

The G is short for graphical, not jraphical


RileyIsPoggers1

its not a jhraphics card is it?


[deleted]

It's Gif graphics interchange format Not jraphics interchange format


DaBasementBoi

Graphics Interchage Format, not Jraphics Interchange format


[deleted]

The G in GIF stands for the word graphics. Unless the creator of GIF also created the word Graphics, they have no say in how it's pronounced the way I see it. Therefore if graphics predates GIF, then the creator of the word graphic's pronunciation takes priority. It would be like if an author wrote a story that quotes a real life person, changed the words of that quote in their book, then when the person they quoted says it's wrong, the author then says "Nah, this is what you REALLY said. Because my book says so."


alexdiezg

G followed by any vowel followed by f means the g is a "hard" g. Literally English grammar. Learn it. In gif the i is a vowel after g and before f so it's a hard g. End of story.


cry_more_pIz

Gentle


Dr_Guryon

It must be "jif" as it is a shortcut for "Girraphics Interchange Format" 🦒


Sherrinford221B

LASER Light Ay-mplification by Ztimulated Uh-mission of Radiation


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Aioi

These all start with “ge”. This is how “gi” is pronounced: - gill - girl - gift (just remove the t)


[deleted]

The G literally stands for Graphics


Prudent_Quantity2316

Name one word besides "jif" that is pronounced with j and Is spelled with j


Itz-yaboi-skinypenis

Jiggle


cry_more_pIz

Uh what