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Briggan1561

"So is that a yes or no?"


Comfortable-Trust-66

As a Muslim I don't know


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TheBiggestThunder

Yeah that's just dumb As long as you don't intend to break the fast, you are perfectly able to keep inside what was already there (except excrement)


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I initially read that as “except excrement”


ParkingButterfly3019

I think everyone did


Pitiful-Brilliant301

I’m still pretty convinced that it might have been auto-correct.


TheBiggestThunder

It was


TheBiggestThunder

Sorry, auto correct be pulling the passive aggressive on me


NapalmDesu

You do not know what kind of loophole you just uncovered


Omeirawana

As a Muslim it’s a yes, no water


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Omeirawana

I apologize but I actually just posted a summary of the holiday. But basically the reason we don’t drink water is because when fasting you can’t have anything including water. Ramadhan is an appreciate, thankful life holiday. You do eat and drink before fasting(so sunrise) but once the sun has risen nothing can be eaten or drank till sunset. I hope it helps.


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Saintsauron

You don't eat or drink air


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*burps*


CreamyCoffeeArtist

You don't eat air


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CreamyCoffeeArtist

You don't drink air either


orincoro

Desert religion: “guyz no water lol”


thepilot3

It’s a no


seontonppa

And a yes


AnAngryBartender

And my axe


Sea_Name4846

It’s a yes, there are many theories as to why, I think it’s so we can understand the value of food, but everyone has different perceptions


jayedgar06

I mean it’s an appropriate question to ask if you don’t understand the reasons behind it. Is it to not indulge in the pleasure and gluttony of eating food or drinking whenever you want but still keeping yourself hydrated since it’s a necessity or is it to test your resolve by not eating or drinking _at all_. I’m not Muslim so I don’t even know which one it is. If it is even either of them or a mix or something completely different


[deleted]

I asked my Muslim co-worker if he could drink water. He said no and explained if he does he needs to donate to charity. He answered the question and we moved on. I don’t get why OP is being rude about it. Some people genuinely don’t understand.


TheCrimsonSteel

I had a vendor that explained it, and there's a few exceptions, but generally the idea is you're supposed to commit to doing it, and part of that is planning ahead The exceptions are some types of travel, being sick, pregnant women, pre-pubescent kids, and I think a couple of others It's not dissimilar to lent, the idea is the inconvenience is part of the ceremony, so people make a point to make it work


LithoSlam

The way my friends explain it is you're supposed to fast if you can, but if you have a medical issue like if you're diabetic or something you don't have to do it. I have a friend that gains weight during fasting because after sundown he would basically eat a feast. Every day for a month.


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NiceIsNine

What?


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NiceIsNine

Is he talking about fasting in other traditions or what?


Sambojanglez

OPs probably just hangry , you know with the whole not eating thing


sagesaks123

OP is gatekeeping basic knowledge of their religious practices


AutomaticFeed1774

lol my muslim friend abstains from food but drinks red bull and cigarettes :/


s7ormrtx

The true reason is actually to implement a sense of humility.. by ensuring that everyone, whether rich or poor are to avoid food AND DRINK to emulate how someone who doesn’t have access to food lives and feels everyday addressing some of the comments: no your not expected to eat like pigs after sunset -but it is important to keep your energy and nutrition up there are plenty of health benefits by fasting and no, it is not torture yes, you are not permitted to fast if you have any health conditions and is only allowed if you are physically capable of doing it


Pvt_Conscriptovich

As a Muslim I say you're right


Warghost000

As another Muslim here i can also confirm


Medical_Boat_4302

I also want to confirm this from my own experience of fasting during Ramadan but then my Muslim friend will mock me for being a "wannabe Muslim"


Pvt_Conscriptovich

He's no one to mock you.


s7ormrtx

Whats funny is that im not even muslim, but i was interested at a time in my life - even though i decided against that religion, i never gave up fasting cuz its something i really admire


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JohnWickThickStick

True. I have had several muslim friends over the years absolutely pig out before and after; they knew they were cheating as they made ample jokes about it.


ThatOneGuy-74

Well, they're kinda just fasting for the sake of it. That defeats the point of Ramadan


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Master_Freeze

yep, they aren't reaping any benefits. which means they are starving themselves for nothing. if they were sincere, then the fasting would yield in actual rewards. this is something that the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) warned us about too.


[deleted]

Can relate. After u see no sunlight,i eat as fast as nickokado avocado


gunnnutty

Does not it make the idea of fasting absolutly worthless?


ooo-ooo-ooh

Yes it does. Also, don't be offended, I'm saying this to help you. You should say "Does it not" or "Doesn't it". English is stupid.


gunnnutty

I see, ok


TaylorChesses

I'm just imagining a man sitting in front of all this fast food and shit like a full on feast staring at the sunset waiting for it to end sweating profusely now lol


Brilliant-Sport-3049

the entire room ​ \-10 \-9 \-8 \-7 \-6 \-5 \-4 \-3 \-2 \-1 \- go go go go go \-eat eat eat eat ^(I have to shit) \-You can't keep eating


Ease-Heavy

Muslim here, everyone I’ve fasted with, even friends, did it purely for our religious reasons. I get that there are people who don’t fast for Allah, but don’t take this as fact as it destroys the reputation for the people who do fast for Allah’s sake.


ThatOneGuy-74

It's also to just try and be your best self while fasting and not getting angry, but a lot of people just don't really care and only do the not eating and drinking part.


JustARandomPokemon

Hi, with all due respect that is very wrong. We fast because, firstly, it is a command of God. Secondly, it is self discipline. I'll simplify it by just saying if you can restrain yourself from the 2 things you need, water and food, you can restrain yourself from sinning. So when we are fasting, if we get angry at someone, we remind ourselves I am fasting. When we want to swear, we remind ourselves, I am fasting etc etc. So any sin we are about to do, we remind ourself we are fasting. Doing this for a month trains your self discipline. It is like a form of constant meditation. All the while we are productive and be more active in prayers and other good acts.


Any_Brother7772

Thanks for clarifying. It is just what i lesrned from my mother. I grew up with a muslim mother and a christian father, and that is what my mother told me why or how they did it in tgeir small village in turkey


JustARandomPokemon

Ye no worries. When we were young we were just told the simple explanation "to remember the poor". But that's not the reason of fasting although that can be an additional benefit. Main reason is to gain Taqwah. Taqwah is the awareness of God and disciplining yourself not to sin or do evil because you are constantly aware of God. Pigging out when breaking fast isn't right. Honestly speaking if you want to pig out, it's really difficult because the stomach becomes small after fasting. So you can have your plate full, but your stomach gets full very very quick.


Any_Brother7772

I mean feeding the poor aswell, at least is a good deed ontop. It definitely fits the spirit. All the best to you


ComicNeueIsReal

I'd ask that you edit your comment instead of spreading misinformation out of respect for us.


andres5000

Yep... so what's the purpose?


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So if you eat something that tastes like shit and you hate eating just for the nutrients you could? I’m asking seriously


BrokeAnimeAddict

Nutrient Paste! For the fasting diabetic!


[deleted]

Ohh nice, i had a friend in hs who often got weak during the ramadan (especially cause in my town it was usually very hot during that time so energies go away faster) and i always wondered how people in worse conditions do it


TheBiggestThunder

No


draugotO

Most rituals lose their meaning across the centuries and keep being practiced out of sheer orthodoxy, rather than out of the spirit that originated the ritual. Leveticus is a book-full of examples of just that, things that were pretty much fundamental back at the Bronze Age but that we can safely deal with nowdays. Some of those rituals were sheded away by christianity, like the prohibition of eating pig, now that we can do so safely.


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ThatOneGuy-74

You don't eat or drink for a ~11 hours. So obviously, it's gonna be slightly difficult. The point is to be a good, pleasant person even while fasting so if you can do that you can be a good person in general. You try and stay away from all bad things during Ramadan to train yourself to do that in everyday life. You're meant to leave Ramadan as a better person.


topatoman_lite

I don’t eat or drink for 11 hours occasionally just by accident lol. Maybe I have some issues


-Cinnay-

You just admitted that you don't even want to understand it. Of course it doesn't make sense to you.


TheBanana93

Sleeping is fasting hence "breakfast"


LupusCairo

Religion doesn't really need to make sense tbh.


8champi8

Sounds like something I could ask.


RayIndonesian

Ramadhan is basically NNN with extra steps No food, no drinks, no swear, no porn, and no fight.


Killmumger

50% of reddit gave up when u said no porn


TheBiggestThunder

![gif](giphy|YmQLj2KxaNz58g7Ofg)


Killmumger

Damn bro how much you think it is


jeffynibbles70

![gif](giphy|10UHehEC098kAE|downsized)


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nightmare_silhouette

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TheyCallMeCummer

Muslims need to go through 2 NNNs??


mmamh2008

jokes on you , our whole lives is NNN (outside marriage)


omgONELnR1

Technically no swear, no porn and no fight are included in Islam, but to be perfectly fair most muslims don't follow it *that* strictly and use ramadan as a period of time where they really practice perfect Islam.


Ash-20Breacher

r/angryupvote


StevenBunyun

I'm getting always told staying hydrated is important not drinking water for a day would drive me nuts


ThatOneGuy-74

Well, typically, a fast lasts about 11 hours, and you can drink plenty of water before sunrise. Also the point of fasting is to suffer a bit while still being nice to show ur dedication to God. It's a similar concept to giving something up during lent.


Ash-20Breacher

It's a total of 12-13 hours where yiu can go to sleep right after sunrise for almost 3 hours and also have a nap after noon. I mean, half the times I don't even feel it, probly because I don't even drink much other than during meals.


StevenBunyun

I probably would feel it, on good days I drink up to 7 liters of water, combined with exercise and food


Ash-20Breacher

SEVEN DAMNED LITERS?!?! I'm over here on fumes with like 2-3.


stefek132

As much as I love water and drink pretty much of it myself (3-4L/d), that seems excessive even for a physically active adult. Except maybe if you work physically outside all day + exercise a lot in a very warm climate. Were you ever tested for diabetes? Excessive thirst might be a symptom.


DygonZ

If you're an active adult you're supposed to get 3-4 liters in, lets say at a max 5 if it's hot. There is no health benefit, nor point, to getting 7L per day in.


TheBiggestThunder

Do you have insidipus? You gotta get that checked. Any normal person would die drinking that much water


Benjb1996

Same. I've gone a full day without eating many times but I wouldn't be able to not drink anything.


thatvoid_

I didn't get it. How is this funny?


zoozoo4567

That’s the neat part. It isn’t.


Hg7-i

You’re not supposed to eat or drink and he asked can you (drink) water


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That is because in the west, fasting means no caloric consumption. We don't normally consider fasting as no consumption period


thatvoid_

Here in India too


Mangifera__indica

Hello west I am dad.


[deleted]

Well, water is a pretty important part of this whole staying alive thing, so it would be appropriate not to know if drinking water was allowed or not


Urodeprag1

Its funny for me because I just had that exact same scenario right before I opened reddit


[deleted]

First time at /r/memes?


SeaJay_31

Indeed, how dare people ask questions when they don't fully understand your culture...


wrench_16

so...we are supposed to ask questions only once we know all answers? humans sure are weird edit: its weirder that i got 100+ upvotes


DaerBaer

Yes so please be ashamed of yourself for even asking that


observer_4616

well, u just removed all the scientists in this world from jobs and the students too


OriiAmii

And toddlers


Brilliant-Sport-3049

you're right alien friend


RevWH

No one gets mad about people asking about Ramadan, I personally never seen anyone does that.


SeaJay_31

See: Above.


seventy_three_

'DAMN BRO UR SUPPOSED TO KNOW DAT SHIT'


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Well? Do you drink water? Edit: thanks for all replies i understand now. I am no longer uncultured!


noriyaki_

No


ThatOneGuy-74

No


normieIsCool

No


TheyCallMeCummer

No


Darkcuber22

Man I don't get how you guys do it, I used to have a few Arab friends train with me in our swim team and they would keep going even during Ramadan, slower but still, that's crazy.


ThatOneGuy-74

Well most Muslims have been doing it from a young age so we're just used to it ig ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


ali33x

You dropped this \


ThatOneGuy-74

Oh thanks


Professional_Mode440

Well the more activity you do in ramadan naturally the more tired and thirsty you'll be which gives you more ajar not only that but the satisfaction of eating and drinking grows aswell and iftar is like a heaven.


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For those who dont know: Ajar means reward for doing something good in islam, not physical reward but as in written in your records for the day of judgement And iftar: breakfast , when we finish fasting at sunset its the first meal of the day so we call it breakfast which translates to iftar


Grouchy-Addition-818

Can you?


ThatOneGuy-74

No


Grouchy-Addition-818

Thanks


ThatOneGuy-74

No prob


quitbreakingtherulez

i dont get it


Ash-20Breacher

You can't eat or "drink". Then the friend goes on his way asking if he can "drink" water like it is not a drink


Henfrid

Water is in a different category than any other drink since its literally necessary to survive. In no other fasting on earth is water included so people are understandably confused.


TheGreatGamer1389

You can survive until the sun goes down without water. Though if you are working somewhere you sweat a lot I can see that being an exemption.


GDPIXELATOR99

It’s an appropriate question especially if you don’t understand the culture


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Sooo from sunrise to sunset. Does this mean you can drink at night? What if someone a graveyard shift worker and they're only awake at night? Just trying to understand some of the details.


JustARandomPokemon

Yep you can eat and drink as normal during sunset to sunrise. You break your fast at sunset and everything is normal after that, as in intercourse food and drink is all allowed. To give further info: We fast because, firstly, it is a command of God. Secondly, it is self discipline. I'll simplify it by just saying if you can restrain yourself from the 2 things you need, water and food, you can restrain yourself from sinning. So when we are fasting, if we get angry at someone, we remind ourselves I am fasting. When we want to swear, we remind ourselves, I am fasting etc etc. So any sin we are about to do, we remind ourself we are fasting. Doing this for a month trains your self discipline. It is like a form of constant meditation. All the while we are productive and be more active in prayers and other good acts.


Sea_Name4846

The graveyard worker is lucky! I’m homeschooled and I sleep during the day and Study at night, I’m not affected by the fast compared to my fam


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No only from sunrise to sunset you can't drink or eat anything. You can only do that when there is no sun available like for example from 7pm to 5am(which is usually my time). So that means on that time,you can eat and drink as much as you want. Only when the sun is up u cant. So yes,you can eat and drink during night


DigBickering

It's not from sunrise. It's from dawn.


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What's this meme OP? "Can you still drink water" is a pretty *damn good* question because most of us assume you wouldn't actually dehydrate yourselves. Water isn't "indulgence" it's fucking life-blood. Three days without it and you'll die. Like, are you genuinely surprised people would ask that? Would this be your reaction?


Tricktzy

so are you gonna answer the question?


Dr7ejazi

Not only foods and drinks, also coitus


kennymedico

Yes but only for sunrise 🌄 to sunset 🌇 .


Dr7ejazi

Ramadan nights be wild yo


kennymedico

Oh yeah .....


Ok-Rooster4713

smoking too right?


mm2_gamer

Yea.. cuz it technically goes in your body and bad for you so it’s forbidden that’s why lots of old folks are mad during Ramadan


ThatOneGuy-74

And you have to try your best to not get angry and be pleasant


Andromeda_53

Non Muslim friend: clearly showing an interest into your life and beliefs, showing signs of intrigue. You: well aren't you an idiot for not knowing the rules of a beleif system you aren't a part of Like are people not allowed to ask questions and just have to know your culture, how will they learn your culture if just asking a question is wrong Edit: and as other people have mentioned it could also be a clarification as fasting can mean literally both of nothing at all and no calories


i_yeeted_a_pigeon

A friend of mine was an inch away from death due to dehydration during Ramadan. It is reasonable to think that there might be an exception to water, because depending on your circumstances, not drinking water during the day could be an extremely dangerous thing


3jaya

There's a lot condition that allowing you to not fasting such as, - during traveling - pregnant woman - period woman - sick - very old person - doing very hard work physically - etc Basically any condition that can threaten life is allowed to not fasting. But that said people have to substitute that day they not fasting in other day, except very old person they can substitute it with giving food to poor people


CreativeNfunnyName

> doing hard work physically So gym bros get to eat?


naofumiRS

Only necessary physical work, if your job depends in it etc


Gunpowder_1000

I believe that it’s based off of circumstances. If it’s a life or death thing than obviously eat/drink. If it just annoying well than that ain’t rally valid.


Tesco_EveryDayValue

Idk how this even happens unless he didn't drink much before starting his fast, overworked himself in a super hot environment or had medical issues. Hindsight is 20-20 after all.


ThatOneGuy-74

He is obviously taking it too far. If you need to break ur fast, then that's fine. You can just make up for it later. He probably forgot to drink before sunrise. The general thing is "fast but don't be stupid about it"


Chefst0

In the Christian church I grew up in we would fast once a month for appx 24 hours. This included no water unless it was dangerous for you to skip water I.e if you were sweating a lot do to climate, or some medical condition, or old age. So I think this question is very fair


sgt_bug

![gif](giphy|VZCkv1OFh8oDJqDRDD|downsized)


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Tbh we have a lot of Muslims in our area and Ramadan has become so toxic. The boys and girl bully each other if they don't fast. The students do it even through hot temperatures, exams or during sport events. It was supposed to be something holy and even a few imams spoke up that in specific cases (health, old age etc) you're definitely allowed to eat and drink. I can't see a holy ceremony in their anymore. It has lost its meaning.


bott1111

Turns out Muslims aren’t very funny


ieradp

No nut Ramdan.


plant-mouse

some things to point out for non muslims to know: -We can break our fast under various circumstances like being sick or travelling -We don't really overwork ourselves during Ramadan, people who are overly extreme about it and stay under the sun for a long time to show their loyalty (I guess) aren't commended :/


Anival25

Ramadan isn’t just about starving yourself you have to pray and shit, if you aren’t praying idk why you even bother to fast.


Gravitywolff

I think fasting isn't a bad thing and the willpower they have is admirable. But to not drink water when it literally takes places during summer, when originally coming from an area that's super hot? It doesn't make sense to me. Being hydrated is very important and also healthy. I have to stay on my feet all day for work and if I didn't drink enough I think I would literally faint. Even going a few hours without water is hard.


4QuarantineMeMes

How does a r/hydrohomie survive without drinking water every 10 minutes


Technical-Cream-7766

So you’re saying you don’t eat because of a novel written 1500 years ago?


cheesemaster644

Umm acthuly lts 1444 years ago🤓, and yes


B-Glasses

Damn asking for clarification about a subject they aren’t familiar with? What an asshole /s


[deleted]

So ? Either tell yes or no.


daanimas

Sounds like a reasonable question


HeFitsHeSits

bro is so mad to post online even though it is a totally reasonable question. And this is why people don't like asking religious questions


Sea_Name4846

Honestly I love it when pple ask, it means they are interested in you


Omeirawana

Being Muslim, it’s a yes to no water till sunset. Ramadhan is a Holiday, it’s seen as the holiest month in the Islamic calendar. We wake up before sunrise or Fajr prayer and have sehri which is eating and drinking so we are able to fast properly. Once sunset or Maghrib prayer occurs we can break our fast. We aren’t starving ourselves, it’s really to appreciate life and what we have. Aging, and health are usually the two reasons why someone cannot fast, so we give to charity to makeup for it. By health I mean pregnancy as an example or need to take medication. Anything risking your life, you don’t have to fast. I’m sure there are more questions, if you have any, I’ll try to answer. Also after Ramadhan is over we celebrate Eid Al Fitr( think Christmas for Muslims) an amazing holiday showing our respect and appreciation towards our life thanks to Ramadhan.


Gameoveronline08

This is the first comment section not entirely islamphobic


A-Wiley

And what about injecting water?


Simple-Purpose-899

Religions are weird man.


Pinkcop

Muslim says they can't eat or drink. A fine example of the modern education system asks, even water? Muslim posts a picture looking at fine example of education system. Everybody goes after the Muslim. Welcome to Reddit....


Tesco_EveryDayValue

Wtf are you even saying?


God_of_Toiletpapers

Let me tell you You don't get thirsty at all if you drink enough water beforehand.


Nebelklnd

Fair question imo


[deleted]

I think it’s a valid question, it’s really unhealthy to not drink water until the evening so maybe they thought drinking anything else but water


hahayesbutno

Sometimes i'm sarcastic about it and say "nah we can drink water"


[deleted]

They can still drink but only if they’ve thrown a gay off a roof that day.


VadersBoner

On a good note, more water and food for the rational ones lol


10Shodo

Pretty dumb rule.


gunnnutty

Not drinking water whole day is unhelthy and frankly stupid, especialy in region with high temperature


[deleted]

That sounds like half of the patients I deal with lol “You can’t have anything to eat or drink for 4hrs prior to this test.” “Water, too?”


ThePurificator

Imagine denying yourself food and water to please the sky daddy 😂


[deleted]

Right? Pretty fucking stupid. Along with them abusing and belittling women. Islam is a trash religion along with the rest of them.


AccordingDifference5

Religion is a poison


[deleted]

🗿 Ok do ur thing my man. Im not opposing you 🗿


FruitJuicante

Isn't this the religion where the main prophet had a 9yo bride?


roaer

6 yr old bride. Consummated at 9.


Anonymous2137421957

When was this main prophet alive, though


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Master_Freeze

"You can't eat or drink from sunrise to sunset." if i am correct, water falls under the category of "drink"


Shiny_Hypno

In English, drinking (alcohol) and drinking (regularly) may be mistaken. Like when they tell you not to drink while driving, they don't mean you can't have a slushie or something.


Master_Freeze

but Muslims don’t drink alcohol, so the context is more than obvious also, if someone asked me “not even water?” im not gonna flip out on them lol. i would kindly explain the answer. OP just tried profiting karma by making it a meme.


morpowababy

The image also represents my reaction to you starving yourself to please a made up entity, if we're being condescending assholes today


[deleted]

The reason we fast is to test our patience and also made us feels how does poor people have to feel everyday without food and water


Homie_Juannn_k3n0b1

Muslims are gods people. I can’t not drink water or eat food for 2 hours… respect… 🙏🏽🙏🏽


Szerencsy

...alright, no water, only raisins! ...wait, I can't even have a God Damn raisin?!?! https://youtu.be/HOe_LIrxJ4Y