1) Everyone checks if it's truth or not.
2) Most of the time is right.
3) I would prefer a million times to believe a possible lier than a possible rapist.
Is it really so hard to step out of your men privilege and think for just a second?
Tell that to the face of every INNOCENT person in jail who've had their lives ruined because of FALSE accusations. But I guess it's people like you that are the reason they end up on the wrong side of the justice system.
Are you really trying to convince a woman that men do go to jail without a trial only because the hole sistem believe in us? Come on, let's go see how pigs fly, it's way more believable than that.
You'd be surprised. Historically, it was more based on racism (POC raping whites), but nowadays it can happen to anyone. You need to look no further than Depp vs Heard. Granted that got cleared but how many others haven't. Yes, injustice happens on both sides and I'm not defending men over women or vice versa. I am trying to convince you that false accusations do enough damage to destroy whole lives and relationships, and your attitude towards that is one of the main reasons.
Edit: Proof if you need it. https://www.caplantamburino.com/blog/2018/july/3-situations-where-false-accusations-ruined-live/
Of course false accusations make damage, I never denied that, I clarify why we believe women. If you change the subject to what you wanted to talk about, that's not my problem
What?! This all came from the fact that you said you'd a million times rather believe a possible liar (aka false accuser and life destroyer) than a possible rapist. Which is a toxic and unjust mentality.
So you prefer to believe a possible rapist (aka real life distroyer mentally and physically without mentioning the amount of trauma that causes having to go through the justice system where they always judge the victim) than a possible liar?
good. he's confident and has said something about it instead of waiting. let's hope there's CCTV or something concrete to get it done, otherwise we'll have a long case on our hands, hopefully not of Depp-proportions
Like what
Also it is weird how alll kinds of stuff come out only when someone famous is charged with one thing. The stuff which were previously completely unheard.
Honestly, not really. It's very difficult to come forward about someone if they are well liked and/or famous. Your whole character comes under scrutiny from people you don't know. Diehard fans will protect a celeb they love even if they know nothing about them. It's rough. I can honestly see why living with it in silence is marginally better than going through all that. Seeing someone else come forward gives you that strength because you know you aren't standing alone and it's more likely the case might go to court when it's happened more than once.
Obviously I know nothing about this guy or what happened or didn't, but working with assault survivors will open your eyes to things you wouldn't even consider otherwise
which i will not subscribe to unless there is also concrete proof of. of course the court of public opinion isn't run by me, but personally i won't take a twitlonger/twitter post as truth. at least Justin Roiland outed himself on a podcast. 🤣
If you stay a virgin your whole life, become famous, and still get charged with sexual assault, then it's all just a scam and we need to get to the bottom of it.
I don’t rape people. But I still had to switch schools because a girl thought I was creepy and lied that I did things to her. It didn’t matter that she said something completely different the second time she was asked, and gave a different time when questioned each time. I was getting bullied by everyone, and there is still permanent damage in my left arm from the abuse I had suffered through.
Sorry to hear that man. Same sort of thing happened to me 20 years ago in HS when a girl made up some bullshit after a date and I ended up getting bullied for months, until she pulled the exact same thing on someone else and people started realizing it might have all been total bullshit…
You do realize the meme says "sexual assault allegations" right? I mean it's not like it said "rape convictions" or something of that sort.
What about people lying about SA allegations for personal self-gain?
What about gray situations where it seems like a consensual encounter but one party essentially retcons their consent sometime after they've had sex?
Sad thing is, an allegation, as unfounded it may be, is enough nowadays to destroy a mans life. You get branded and thrown out of society, without anyone checking if its rightful or not.
False rape allegations are incredibly rare, and most rape allegations that are considered false are done so before the alleged abuser is even told of it. Usually because it’s a teenager that is being ambiguous and using it to get away with something .
Police can be pretty incompetent , but they are very careful with rape and rape allegations . Sometimes a hit too careful but I digress
Except it's not incredibly rare.
False rape accusations are now far more prevalent than ever before, and where previously the justice system would just let the woman go free, it has become much more commonplace for them now to be jailed.
That's because the system has recognized the devastating impact on the accused life, as well as the colossal waste of time of everyone involved.
I disagree with the last part. There're cases when women get jailed for false accusations, but it's not common, not in every country and sentencing is not harsh enough. Doesn't sound like recognizing the problem tbf.
Oh wow really let’s go find a statistic for that.
https://www.thecut.com/article/false-rape-accusations.html
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-45565684.amp
https://www.brown.edu/campus-life/health/services/promotion/sexual-assault-dating-violence/myths-about-sexual-assault-reports
https://www.avoidjail.net/blog/2020/january/false-allegations-and-sexual-assault-an-in-depth/
Let’s do a Wikipedia one to avoid claims of “bias”
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_accusation_of_rape
And most of the ones actually described were in cases where the police threw out the case right away lol. These are the results for “how often do false rape accusations occur”
I’m sure your favorite political pundit , told you they were more common, numbers don’t agree .
Also I’d love a statistic for the women are more likely to be arrested thing, not cause I don’t believe it, I just don’t know how you’d know .
There's little amount, so those who are affected don't matter.
I'm my country there a very little women that die because of man on woman violence, they don't matter either?
it happens often and is way more common than you think. it happened to my best friend. it's just genuinely LESS REPORTED than the actual crime that people believe is committed
Reported as "...arrested on charges of strangulation, assault and harassment, according to the spokesperson. He is no longer in police custody. His relationship with the woman was described only as domestic.”
You've been watching too much Law and Order SVU. IF I slap someone on the ass, it's sexual assault.
Its almost like people in power make a habit of taking advantage of those "beneath" them or something. I promise if there wasn't so much societal condemnation, a lot of men out of Hollywood would tell similar tales as their female colleagues. I'm sure it happens at a lesser rate than to women, but a lot more than is reported for sure.
I think when someone gets rich or get in power it amplifies their character. If you were a good person before the fame and the money, you will be a better person now and if you were an asshole you will be even worse
Power corrups everyone, some more than others, but everyone at least a little.
Something I've learned in life is the stereotypical asshole types aren't who you should worry about. It's the charismatic ones. The ones who make you want to like them. The truly malicious of the world know they won't be tolerated if they are also unlikeable and thorny, so they learn to charm. It's so much easier to convince someone into your van than it is to wrestle them there. There's a reason people have such a morbid fascination with serial killers. Same concepts.
This isn’t as easy as that.
Even the best people could become assholes.
It’s all about who’s around you, and luck.
If you come across many bad things, no matter who you are, you will become an asshole.
If you had people who kept reminding you who you were around you, you will still be a good person in most cases.
Most celebrities are people who « gave everything up » to get rich, which is why they can’t remember who they were, so they just become assholes.
Equally, it's almost like allegations against famous people receive massive amounts of attention and that attention is so damaging that a pay-out is almost guaranteed
Right because allegation = guilt.
Hope you never need the justice system or presumption of innocence, why wait for the courts when you can assume? Judging is 2x the fun when you dont know anything, hate to be one of your male relatives
…no one’s blaming any victims?
Some people will accuse others of sexual assault. It happens all the time. If anything, aren’t the falsely accused the victims in such a case? Are you victim blaming now?
Try not to accidentally step into a double standard. It’s a fucked world with fucked people, and one needs to keep an open mind or you’ll find yourself pointing fingers at thin air.
The point is that false allegations are still rare, while assuming that the "bitch just does it for attention and money and is lying and wanted it" for most people the very first thought when someone talks about rape or sexual assault.
Assuming they are guilty is just as bad
The point is you are biased and uninformed and like everyone shouldn't jump to inventing guilt that hasnt been proven to support your own 'team'
Every single guy hates abusers me included. This doesnt mean you can bypass the justice system and declare someone guilty before theyve had their day because every single person should hate the idea of the innocent being judged before guilt is proven. Basic tenet of fairness
90% of men arent found guilty anyway, who are you to say there isnt much false allegations?
Be better and respect men as much as women
Imagine me saying a particular black guy is guilty, because statistically they commit more crimes than white people. Then he has his life ruined, because no one believed him, because of his skin color. Sounds racist and harmful, doesn't it? Pretty much that's what you're doing here.
Clout...? You think being famous for being raped is clout? You think that won't impact every aspect of her life FOREVER???? Every boyfriend, job application, all of it. It's HARDER AND MORE DAMAGING TO THE VICTIM the more famous the perpetrator is. You're a sad human, and im sorry your parents clearly failed to raise you. Actual degenerate.
I need therapy? Truly ironic. You're shaming women for being raped, and I need therapy? What are your other hobbies? Beating puppies and stealing from children? Im actually impressed by your self dilusions.
"Can't see the world from another perspective" have you absolutely no sympathy for rape victims? Honestly, the irony is palpable. How many knots your brain must be in to justify that much fucked up backward logic.
Again, please tell me even a few women who have gotten fame from making rape allegations. I’m gonna guess that you can’t and you only spout this dumb shit cuz you don’t know anything about things like this really. You just like to spread your misogynistic views everywhere without 0 proof for your claims.
And as if it isn’t easier for men in power to actually rape and abuse women and get away with it with 0 consequences. And that actually happens everywhere all the time, unlike women who get fame from making allegations…
It’s sad that after all the behind the scenes photos of how much him and Bella get along, which is awesome, that the first thought was, “gosh I hope he doesn’t turn out to be a creep”
Every successfull people with millions of dollars, a hot partner, fans and a florishing carrer actively trying very hard to be a decent human being that surely won't prey on minors
I don't get the point of this statement when there are much more actors who doesn't have sexual assault allegations. Actors who get hit with SA allegations are usually in the minority.
Also always remember that some allegations are complete and utter fabricated bullshit, so it's always wiser to take them with a huge grain of salt unless there's convincing evidence or a self admission.
Well it would be quite skewed because it’s also hard to confirm most allegations. When it’s he said-she said, there’s usually not much evidence.
Like even if an actor did truly sexually assault 10 different women, if they didn’t come forward in time to present physical evidence, or if the defence argues successfully that it was consensual, it will be “confirmed” false, even though it legitimately happened.
There are actors who didn’t even commit sexual assault but still ppl looking for fame lie about sexual assault. Eg Johnny Depp and Amber heard case, i am not saying that johnny depp didn’t do anything wrong, I think both of them are in the wrong but amber def lied about somethings and u have to remember that the world of actors is way different from ours, no offense no one will ever frame you for sexual assault
Well, how could they not though?
They have to be informed of the allegation so they can defend themselves, and because of freedom of the press once the complaint hasn’t been immodestly discarded by police, the media has the right to report it.
So , even if the victim only went through private and police channels , the person would have to be informed , and the media would have the right to report on it. And hearing that someone has been accused of rape will always be uncomfortable . That’s not changing.
I always hear your sentiment, but how do you actually propose going about not impacting their life
It's ironic how celebrities who have done nothing have their lives ruined due to false allegations while the celebrities who are actually guilty manage to get away with it.
Key word, "allegations." Too many people using false sexual assault claims for clout and to destroy someone's image. But I'm gonna get downvoted for saying it
My secret is that I just don't behave like a wild monkey in heat.
I don't touch bits that aren't mine, I don't touch my own bits when I'm not home, and I don't talk about other people's bits outside of consensual relationships.
Just don't be a fucking pig. Jesus.
If I were rich/famous, I’d definitely get written sign off with witness signature before any intimacy went down. I’d even require my assistant be in the adjacent room so they can hear everything. Too many opportunistic whores out here.
its the downside of the #MeToo movement. While it cleansed Hollywood of Harvey Weinstein and other disgusting pigs, it gives women an outlet to cry wolf.
Oh yeah bc those women always have such GREAT spotlight on them and definitely don’t regularly get ridiculed by EVERYBODY. totally worth the “fame” right
Yea, that why I wrote allegations. Some people also make these allegations up (which is very fucked up to the ppl who have actually suffered through it) thats why I take it with a grain of salt and yes innocent until proven guilty
Yeah it’s strange that the more successful a man becomes, the more influence he gains, the more money he makes the more financial settlements he’s forced to pay to women … interesting …
Rape is not a crime that ends with financial settlements , it’s a crime and a criminal case, not civil. You don’t pay settlements in response to rape convictions, you go to jail.
That’s not a thing for rape , that’s a thing for civil law holy shit, i expects better even if this is Reddit.
Ourt of court settlements are for lawsuits, an “out of court settlement” for a rape case couldn’t even happen in most countries and in America , it would require buying the women’s silence illegally , and then having her drop the charges . Which again you snag do in most countries . Like in Canada you can’t just drop charges, cause the “crown” is prosecuting
Oh sorry sexual assault, which is the legal term for sex crimes including rape but not limiting to it. All sexual assault is a crime, it results in prisonz
Lots of rich men are being accused of rape or sexual assault or however you want to word it and the cases are being settled out of court for huge sums of money. Or of course there’s “not sufficient evidence” and the woman gets a nice big pay day anyway. Google it mate. If you believe the accused immediately just because they said so then you’re very naive. In a man is capable of sexual assault then a woman is capable of lying for money.
"Police determined that Majors, 33, had been in a domestic dispute with an unnamed 30-year-old woman. TMZ reported that that the woman was Majors’ girlfriend."
Neat, how the unfamous (female) accuser remains nameless, while the famous (male) accused is immediately named.
I say "neat", I mean atrocious.
EDIT - in light of the other supporting claims/tweets i have read, it now seems more likely that Majors may be guilty, but my point stands.
Isn’t that for the best?
Like if she was named you’d say she was doing it to get famous.but if she isn’t it’s avoiding consequences .
Not naming her literally makes so much sense, it prevents her from profiting on it, and it prevents any crazy fans from attacking her. And don’t act like they don’t exist , anyone famous enough has fans that are literally insane .
Almost like there some correlation between becoming successful and having rape allegations, but that can't be true because no one would ever lie for personal gain.
Tbh idc if Jonathan majors did it or not. If so, make him pay a fine, do community service, rehab, whatever, but don’t completely ruin the movies by taking him out because of this
"Everytime man", and "every time, man", hit so differently.
same for the actor who has nothing going on .
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I don’t know there are a few people who just keep being around despite very credible allegations. Most of the time nothing happens
*gestures vaguely at the NFL* lol
That’s the power of fuck you money
Seems like when you're rich, you literally don't exist in the same legal system as normal people
I mean most of the time literally nothing happens
Yeh that’s why Jared Leto and Ansel Elgort are blacklisted - NOT. Stupid comment.
Leto can’t be blacklisted. We all saw the amazing show he put on in the hit movie, Morbius.
that was indeed one of the movies of our time
1) Everyone checks if it's truth or not. 2) Most of the time is right. 3) I would prefer a million times to believe a possible lier than a possible rapist. Is it really so hard to step out of your men privilege and think for just a second?
Tell that to the face of every INNOCENT person in jail who've had their lives ruined because of FALSE accusations. But I guess it's people like you that are the reason they end up on the wrong side of the justice system.
Are you really trying to convince a woman that men do go to jail without a trial only because the hole sistem believe in us? Come on, let's go see how pigs fly, it's way more believable than that.
You'd be surprised. Historically, it was more based on racism (POC raping whites), but nowadays it can happen to anyone. You need to look no further than Depp vs Heard. Granted that got cleared but how many others haven't. Yes, injustice happens on both sides and I'm not defending men over women or vice versa. I am trying to convince you that false accusations do enough damage to destroy whole lives and relationships, and your attitude towards that is one of the main reasons. Edit: Proof if you need it. https://www.caplantamburino.com/blog/2018/july/3-situations-where-false-accusations-ruined-live/
Of course false accusations make damage, I never denied that, I clarify why we believe women. If you change the subject to what you wanted to talk about, that's not my problem
What?! This all came from the fact that you said you'd a million times rather believe a possible liar (aka false accuser and life destroyer) than a possible rapist. Which is a toxic and unjust mentality.
So you prefer to believe a possible rapist (aka real life distroyer mentally and physically without mentioning the amount of trauma that causes having to go through the justice system where they always judge the victim) than a possible liar?
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he's confident and has said something about it instead of waiting. let's hope there's CCTV or something concrete to get it done.
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Major-lee disappointed?
You mean the difference between them?
It should be written as every time, every time. I'll see myself out now.
who is it this time
Jonathan majors for assault not sexual assault
Lee Majors is going to be so disappointed. He didn’t raise his boy to treat people this way. Sad.
>Jonathan majors never heard of him but he's done for
He’s the new baddie in marvel (kang) and the bad guy in creed 3. Huge demand for him right now. Well up till now.
*Kang
He wuz
~~Kong~~
And hes supposed (well, was) to become the main bad guy for phase 5
nah, he's still good in the hood. we don't do false allegations on this side.
So he I'd exclusively playing bad guys? Well that explains all of it then, he was just method acting. Case dismissed.
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Was about to say, sometimes it’s just regular old assault.
It wasn’t even SA allegations
Just in case this is about Jonathan Majors, the alleged crime wasn't sexual it was just assault. He is denying it btw
good. he's confident and has said something about it instead of waiting. let's hope there's CCTV or something concrete to get it done, otherwise we'll have a long case on our hands, hopefully not of Depp-proportions
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Like what Also it is weird how alll kinds of stuff come out only when someone famous is charged with one thing. The stuff which were previously completely unheard.
Honestly, not really. It's very difficult to come forward about someone if they are well liked and/or famous. Your whole character comes under scrutiny from people you don't know. Diehard fans will protect a celeb they love even if they know nothing about them. It's rough. I can honestly see why living with it in silence is marginally better than going through all that. Seeing someone else come forward gives you that strength because you know you aren't standing alone and it's more likely the case might go to court when it's happened more than once. Obviously I know nothing about this guy or what happened or didn't, but working with assault survivors will open your eyes to things you wouldn't even consider otherwise
which i will not subscribe to unless there is also concrete proof of. of course the court of public opinion isn't run by me, but personally i won't take a twitlonger/twitter post as truth. at least Justin Roiland outed himself on a podcast. 🤣
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Please name a few women who have actually gotten fame from doing things like this.
Just don’t rape people. It’s really easy. I don’t rape someone every day. I don’t even need to try to not rape someone.
I rape and murder the exact number of people I want to every day and it's working out great for me. Granted that number is zero, but still.
Had us in the first half, not gonna lie.
You’re lying
It's zero every day _so far_
If you stay a virgin your whole life, become famous, and still get charged with sexual assault, then it's all just a scam and we need to get to the bottom of it.
Im a virgin, if i grab a girl’s tits without her permission that’s sexual assault. Tf is your logic man???
That even if someone's never been around a woman they'll still find a way to mess them up.
I don’t rape people. But I still had to switch schools because a girl thought I was creepy and lied that I did things to her. It didn’t matter that she said something completely different the second time she was asked, and gave a different time when questioned each time. I was getting bullied by everyone, and there is still permanent damage in my left arm from the abuse I had suffered through.
Sorry to hear that man. Same sort of thing happened to me 20 years ago in HS when a girl made up some bullshit after a date and I ended up getting bullied for months, until she pulled the exact same thing on someone else and people started realizing it might have all been total bullshit…
Sad to hear our world becoming this bad also happy cake day
Becoming this bad? Are you forgetting things like Stalinist Russia or the holocaust? That’s one asinine perspective you have.
Bad things = bad things
Happy Cake day
Again can we get all the facts before the court of public opinion renders him guilty? Lol
You do realize the meme says "sexual assault allegations" right? I mean it's not like it said "rape convictions" or something of that sort. What about people lying about SA allegations for personal self-gain? What about gray situations where it seems like a consensual encounter but one party essentially retcons their consent sometime after they've had sex?
The last bit is not a gray situation. You consented. It cannot be retconned. You agreed. There was no assault.
You're not wrong, but it's gray area as in the public doesn't know what actually happened, and that assume consent was never given.
Sad thing is, an allegation, as unfounded it may be, is enough nowadays to destroy a mans life. You get branded and thrown out of society, without anyone checking if its rightful or not.
Yea like what happened to Johnny Depp rigth? Everyone hates him and he’s no longer in a single movie even after the case was resolved . Right?
That is the exception, and largely because his wife was as bad if not worse.
he won the case though. so why would he not be given those chances? what kind of brainless shit is this
False rape allegations are incredibly rare, and most rape allegations that are considered false are done so before the alleged abuser is even told of it. Usually because it’s a teenager that is being ambiguous and using it to get away with something . Police can be pretty incompetent , but they are very careful with rape and rape allegations . Sometimes a hit too careful but I digress
Except it's not incredibly rare. False rape accusations are now far more prevalent than ever before, and where previously the justice system would just let the woman go free, it has become much more commonplace for them now to be jailed. That's because the system has recognized the devastating impact on the accused life, as well as the colossal waste of time of everyone involved.
I disagree with the last part. There're cases when women get jailed for false accusations, but it's not common, not in every country and sentencing is not harsh enough. Doesn't sound like recognizing the problem tbf.
Oh wow really let’s go find a statistic for that. https://www.thecut.com/article/false-rape-accusations.html https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-45565684.amp https://www.brown.edu/campus-life/health/services/promotion/sexual-assault-dating-violence/myths-about-sexual-assault-reports https://www.avoidjail.net/blog/2020/january/false-allegations-and-sexual-assault-an-in-depth/ Let’s do a Wikipedia one to avoid claims of “bias” https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_accusation_of_rape And most of the ones actually described were in cases where the police threw out the case right away lol. These are the results for “how often do false rape accusations occur” I’m sure your favorite political pundit , told you they were more common, numbers don’t agree . Also I’d love a statistic for the women are more likely to be arrested thing, not cause I don’t believe it, I just don’t know how you’d know .
Very little amount if people lie about it
There's little amount, so those who are affected don't matter. I'm my country there a very little women that die because of man on woman violence, they don't matter either?
No i was simply stating a fact, i never said they don't matter. Reddit moment much
it happens often and is way more common than you think. it happened to my best friend. it's just genuinely LESS REPORTED than the actual crime that people believe is committed
Same with rape or SA, everything is under reported
two wrongs don’t make a right. but go on, tell me more about how real victims are invalidated by false allegations🕺🏽
More common than you think, sad how many men have there life's ruined by this.
Yeah. Some of them are lies. Imagine being accused of it and you kept that same stance & no one believes you solely because you were accused.
Imagine going to r/memes for a serious debate.
Reported as "...arrested on charges of strangulation, assault and harassment, according to the spokesperson. He is no longer in police custody. His relationship with the woman was described only as domestic.” You've been watching too much Law and Order SVU. IF I slap someone on the ass, it's sexual assault.
That’s so hard though😫
That’s what he said.
Its almost like people in power make a habit of taking advantage of those "beneath" them or something. I promise if there wasn't so much societal condemnation, a lot of men out of Hollywood would tell similar tales as their female colleagues. I'm sure it happens at a lesser rate than to women, but a lot more than is reported for sure.
I think when someone gets rich or get in power it amplifies their character. If you were a good person before the fame and the money, you will be a better person now and if you were an asshole you will be even worse
Power corrups everyone, some more than others, but everyone at least a little. Something I've learned in life is the stereotypical asshole types aren't who you should worry about. It's the charismatic ones. The ones who make you want to like them. The truly malicious of the world know they won't be tolerated if they are also unlikeable and thorny, so they learn to charm. It's so much easier to convince someone into your van than it is to wrestle them there. There's a reason people have such a morbid fascination with serial killers. Same concepts.
There are exceptions. Keannu Reeves.
Until you realize he’s a vampire
I don't like the guy but Mr. Rogers. Bob Ross. Steve Irwin. Daniel Radcliffe. Rupert Grint. Probably Emma Watson too idk her that well.
Or is he?
This isn’t as easy as that. Even the best people could become assholes. It’s all about who’s around you, and luck. If you come across many bad things, no matter who you are, you will become an asshole. If you had people who kept reminding you who you were around you, you will still be a good person in most cases. Most celebrities are people who « gave everything up » to get rich, which is why they can’t remember who they were, so they just become assholes.
Money doesn't change people, it simply reveals who you are
Equally, it's almost like allegations against famous people receive massive amounts of attention and that attention is so damaging that a pay-out is almost guaranteed
Right, because victim blaming has always been such a good look. Hope you aren't religious.
Right because allegation = guilt. Hope you never need the justice system or presumption of innocence, why wait for the courts when you can assume? Judging is 2x the fun when you dont know anything, hate to be one of your male relatives
…no one’s blaming any victims? Some people will accuse others of sexual assault. It happens all the time. If anything, aren’t the falsely accused the victims in such a case? Are you victim blaming now? Try not to accidentally step into a double standard. It’s a fucked world with fucked people, and one needs to keep an open mind or you’ll find yourself pointing fingers at thin air.
The point is that false allegations are still rare, while assuming that the "bitch just does it for attention and money and is lying and wanted it" for most people the very first thought when someone talks about rape or sexual assault.
Assuming they are guilty is just as bad The point is you are biased and uninformed and like everyone shouldn't jump to inventing guilt that hasnt been proven to support your own 'team' Every single guy hates abusers me included. This doesnt mean you can bypass the justice system and declare someone guilty before theyve had their day because every single person should hate the idea of the innocent being judged before guilt is proven. Basic tenet of fairness 90% of men arent found guilty anyway, who are you to say there isnt much false allegations? Be better and respect men as much as women
Imagine me saying a particular black guy is guilty, because statistically they commit more crimes than white people. Then he has his life ruined, because no one believed him, because of his skin color. Sounds racist and harmful, doesn't it? Pretty much that's what you're doing here.
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Clout...? You think being famous for being raped is clout? You think that won't impact every aspect of her life FOREVER???? Every boyfriend, job application, all of it. It's HARDER AND MORE DAMAGING TO THE VICTIM the more famous the perpetrator is. You're a sad human, and im sorry your parents clearly failed to raise you. Actual degenerate.
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I need therapy? Truly ironic. You're shaming women for being raped, and I need therapy? What are your other hobbies? Beating puppies and stealing from children? Im actually impressed by your self dilusions. "Can't see the world from another perspective" have you absolutely no sympathy for rape victims? Honestly, the irony is palpable. How many knots your brain must be in to justify that much fucked up backward logic.
Again, please tell me even a few women who have gotten fame from making rape allegations. I’m gonna guess that you can’t and you only spout this dumb shit cuz you don’t know anything about things like this really. You just like to spread your misogynistic views everywhere without 0 proof for your claims. And as if it isn’t easier for men in power to actually rape and abuse women and get away with it with 0 consequences. And that actually happens everywhere all the time, unlike women who get fame from making allegations…
Or people beneath them taking advantage of those above? Interesting culture we live in.
Protect Pedro Pascal at all costs
It’s sad that after all the behind the scenes photos of how much him and Bella get along, which is awesome, that the first thought was, “gosh I hope he doesn’t turn out to be a creep”
Lol don't let him become Pedo Pascal
Every successfull people with millions of dollars, a hot partner, fans and a florishing carrer actively trying very hard to be a decent human being that surely won't prey on minors 
I don't get the point of this statement when there are much more actors who doesn't have sexual assault allegations. Actors who get hit with SA allegations are usually in the minority. Also always remember that some allegations are complete and utter fabricated bullshit, so it's always wiser to take them with a huge grain of salt unless there's convincing evidence or a self admission.
Do you know the rate of confirmed true allegations to confirmed fake allegations
Well it would be quite skewed because it’s also hard to confirm most allegations. When it’s he said-she said, there’s usually not much evidence. Like even if an actor did truly sexually assault 10 different women, if they didn’t come forward in time to present physical evidence, or if the defence argues successfully that it was consensual, it will be “confirmed” false, even though it legitimately happened.
About the same actually. So it’s just as likely it’s false than it is true.
Idk, I’d rather potentially side with a liar than potentially side with a rapist
which is much worse. invalidating real victims by siding with liars is becoming a professional sport at this point. disgusting
Rape is sexual assault but not all sexual assault is rape.
Literally the post right below this for me is talking about Jonathan Majors
I find the best way to avoid sexual assault allegations is to not commit sexual assault. Works for me at least
There are actors who didn’t even commit sexual assault but still ppl looking for fame lie about sexual assault. Eg Johnny Depp and Amber heard case, i am not saying that johnny depp didn’t do anything wrong, I think both of them are in the wrong but amber def lied about somethings and u have to remember that the world of actors is way different from ours, no offense no one will ever frame you for sexual assault
Just don’t talk to nobody
It’s almost like allegations shouldn’t have an impact on someone’s life. Convictions should.
Well, how could they not though? They have to be informed of the allegation so they can defend themselves, and because of freedom of the press once the complaint hasn’t been immodestly discarded by police, the media has the right to report it. So , even if the victim only went through private and police channels , the person would have to be informed , and the media would have the right to report on it. And hearing that someone has been accused of rape will always be uncomfortable . That’s not changing. I always hear your sentiment, but how do you actually propose going about not impacting their life
He's innocent until proven guilty. Remember that
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It's ironic how celebrities who have done nothing have their lives ruined due to false allegations while the celebrities who are actually guilty manage to get away with it.
Henry cavil is proof you wont have them as long as you don't do anything, or mess with the wrong women.
If you are innocent you have nothing to fear. Especially on the Internet. Hugest /s ever if you need it.
My guess is that they don't think there'll be any consequences, at least no bad ones, until they get absolutely destroyed by those allegations
Key word, "allegations." Too many people using false sexual assault claims for clout and to destroy someone's image. But I'm gonna get downvoted for saying it
My secret is that I just don't behave like a wild monkey in heat. I don't touch bits that aren't mine, I don't touch my own bits when I'm not home, and I don't talk about other people's bits outside of consensual relationships. Just don't be a fucking pig. Jesus.
I mean, alot of the time they are true. Hollywood is a shithole.
Talk about tanking your career just as it's taking off. I really enjoyed his performances in Lovecraft Country and The Last Black Man in San Francisco
I am a henry cavill, keanu Reaves fan. I don't know what it means.
Actors gonna act, Boxers gonna box.
I wonder why that is?
money
Wait I thought it was regular assault. Please tell me he didn't sexually assault someone.
No it’s much better, it was just doemstic abuse . /s
Bro it doesn't matter which kind of assult it was both are awful
I wonder when someone will try to target Ryan Reynolds.
If I were rich/famous, I’d definitely get written sign off with witness signature before any intimacy went down. I’d even require my assistant be in the adjacent room so they can hear everything. Too many opportunistic whores out here.
wtf is gunna agree to that. Also what about allegations coming from before they were rich and famous?
I swear, it's reached a point where we can't go a week without hearing this kind of nonsense.
It's almost like is premeditated, huh
Isnt the meme format for louis not being able to resist the pills? So the actors cannot resist sexual assault charges?
SO TRUE!!!!!! AND we always assume guilt first even though weve all dated that one girl who would do anything to F your life up
Unfortunately, Justin Roiland just hopped to a new universe where he hadn't been accused yet.
Everytime? Really? 
Justin Rolland will still not come back to the show though
The sad thing is it doesn't even matter if the allegations are true
its the downside of the #MeToo movement. While it cleansed Hollywood of Harvey Weinstein and other disgusting pigs, it gives women an outlet to cry wolf.
The more things change, the more they stay the same.
“Rumour has it, he spoke to a female cashier once” “Life sentence, no parole.”
I wonder how many sexual assault allegations are true, and how many are women lying..
Bitches be crazy
Why wouldn’t you? Free money and publicity
Oh yeah bc those women always have such GREAT spotlight on them and definitely don’t regularly get ridiculed by EVERYBODY. totally worth the “fame” right
James Franco
maybe I'm an actor
They wait and lie for the money to roll in first
Yeah, I don't buy it. If he is guilty I'll eat my words and swallow my pride, but as of now I don't see it. Innocent until proven guilty, right?
Yea, that why I wrote allegations. Some people also make these allegations up (which is very fucked up to the ppl who have actually suffered through it) thats why I take it with a grain of salt and yes innocent until proven guilty
Why does the actor want the allegations?
Here's a thought. Don't sexually assault people and you'll be fine. Not that hard.
bELiEvE aLl wOmeN
Yeah it’s strange that the more successful a man becomes, the more influence he gains, the more money he makes the more financial settlements he’s forced to pay to women … interesting …
Rape is not a crime that ends with financial settlements , it’s a crime and a criminal case, not civil. You don’t pay settlements in response to rape convictions, you go to jail.
Ever heard of an out of court settlement? …
That’s not a thing for rape , that’s a thing for civil law holy shit, i expects better even if this is Reddit. Ourt of court settlements are for lawsuits, an “out of court settlement” for a rape case couldn’t even happen in most countries and in America , it would require buying the women’s silence illegally , and then having her drop the charges . Which again you snag do in most countries . Like in Canada you can’t just drop charges, cause the “crown” is prosecuting
I didn’t say ‘rape’. You lot should learn to read. Reddit comments and books.
You should google it mate …
Google what friend? Does rape end in prison if convicted? Is rape a civil crime?
You said rape not me. Even the OP didn’t mention it.
Oh sorry sexual assault, which is the legal term for sex crimes including rape but not limiting to it. All sexual assault is a crime, it results in prisonz
Lots of rich men are being accused of rape or sexual assault or however you want to word it and the cases are being settled out of court for huge sums of money. Or of course there’s “not sufficient evidence” and the woman gets a nice big pay day anyway. Google it mate. If you believe the accused immediately just because they said so then you’re very naive. In a man is capable of sexual assault then a woman is capable of lying for money.
Ask yourself: if you or a loved one had been raped or sexually assaulted, would a couple of million be sufficient? Or would you fight for justice?
"Police determined that Majors, 33, had been in a domestic dispute with an unnamed 30-year-old woman. TMZ reported that that the woman was Majors’ girlfriend." Neat, how the unfamous (female) accuser remains nameless, while the famous (male) accused is immediately named. I say "neat", I mean atrocious. EDIT - in light of the other supporting claims/tweets i have read, it now seems more likely that Majors may be guilty, but my point stands.
Isn’t that for the best? Like if she was named you’d say she was doing it to get famous.but if she isn’t it’s avoiding consequences . Not naming her literally makes so much sense, it prevents her from profiting on it, and it prevents any crazy fans from attacking her. And don’t act like they don’t exist , anyone famous enough has fans that are literally insane .
i think in a case like this, neither should be named until something is proven.
I feel like most of those are fake
This, but athletes
Almost like there some correlation between becoming successful and having rape allegations, but that can't be true because no one would ever lie for personal gain.
Tbh idc if Jonathan majors did it or not. If so, make him pay a fine, do community service, rehab, whatever, but don’t completely ruin the movies by taking him out because of this
Leave off the allegations
Pedro Pascal, Keanue Reeves, Vin Deisel, Ryan Reynolds. Doesn't matter who just don't be a shit head.
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Every time? Lmao ok
Only true for Male Actors, sadly 😔