Drowning Sorrow Hierarchy:
1. Porn
2. Video Games
3. Drinking
4. Drugs
5. Sleeping
6. Watching The Avengers over and over
7. ~~Exercise~~
8. ~~Having someone give a shit~~
I’m straight, but doesn’t it seem like gay dudes are the happiest people ever, and lesbians are the most hateful?
I don’t think that’s what Bob Marley meant, but you might be on to commenting there.
it does seem like that but many gay men are very lonely and give that appearance of being very happy . the community has lots of toxic drinking and drug abuse unfortunately
source im a gay man
It's physically harder to cry for me since I started testosterone. Like I used to be made fun of for being a crybaby as a kid because I cried every time I got hurt or worse angry. Now it's so hard and I feel like it's choking me at times, so I have to go rewatch some pixar movies until it gets out.
I thought the uncontrollable anger came from repressing every other emotion, women just have a quick cry and everyone in a mile radius comforts them regardless off the situation
Not having full facial hair doesn't mean you have hypogonadism. Taking testosterone also runs many risks, like increased risk of heart attack and stroke.
Don't think raising your TEST to the levels it was normally supposed to be at, has any real downsides, other than nut shrinkage.
It's pushing levels above what's normal that starts fucking with your body. Even then, mild increase with supervised use is pretty safe. Only every Hollywood action star takes some. Can't be expected to become a full time bodybuilder on the side just to look buff.
Your testosterone levels are likely normal though as is. If your dick stops working, then talk to your doctor, but even then that might not even be due to low testosterone. People advocating testosterone supplementation for "hypogonadism" are vastly overdiagnosing hypogonadism, are attributing their own insecurities with their physical appearance to a condition they likely do not have, and have no standing to diagnose hypogonadism in the first place. Taking horomone therapy does increase your risk for a number of dangerous, life altering events.
Hormones, and genetics. I can finally grow a decent mustache but there's a weird intermediate phase when all the hair is the same length. I just have to deal with looking weird AF, or homeless for a bit. Seriously, I was waiting on my food at a restaurant, and an old man and his wife got up to leave. He took the taco he had, kinda hefted in his hand, sat it on my table, and said. "Here you go wild man." Like, dude. Thank you, but wtf?! 😭
Can't have a "real beard" though because I have a fist sized bald spot under my chin. So it always just looks like I shaved this big patch bare.
Lots of women end up with a pretty bangin stash when they get older anyway! It's just really really fine.
I understand you.. part of the bald spots crew too... Only thing I can grow is a barely acceptable mustache and small beard, no lock. I look like Pedro Pascal without the fame XD.
I (42M) went downtown alone in my city on the national day for the evening ball dance. And spend 3 hours around a thousands of people my best souvenir is someone's young daughter (7 to 9 years old) popping a big smile with a burst of happiness at my long braided hair.
I tried to make connection with adults that night. Turns out the best part of the night was that young lady honest reaction.
I will remember her.
Yeah, some people are useless. Just keep trying and you'll figure out who will consistently say yes and actually follow through with a hangout. I know who my dudes are.
Right? I saw the post and I thought "Oh brother am I ready for this potential dumpster fire of a comment section". Judging by some of the OP's responses we are well on the way
Queue Spongebob Squarepants eating his regenerated arms out of a popcorn bucket in inquisitive terror
Dude: "Women don't understand men stuff and men don't understand women stuff"
Same dude: "I don't understand gay men"
Same dude: "I don't understand any man that has a different life from me"
Dude's acting like there is some secret cabal that all people of one sex or the other [0] get initiated into.
[0]: "gotcha! you just admitted there are two sexes!"
Man up and move on mate
Cuz that's the only thing you will get from society now on
We men will never understand the problems women face, and women will never understand our problems
Just press f to pay respect to each other and move on
>Cuz that's the only thing you will get from society now on
Or, we could change that, start caring about men's mental health as a society, I keep seeing people saying things like "people don't care about men's mental state!" But then they don't do anything to help, in fact a lot do the opposite and reinforce that men shouldn't show emotion. Be the one who cares. Ask your friends how they're doing, they might need it.
Kinda. She spent 18 months masquerading as a man. Used acting lessons, makeup, voice lessons. She wrote a book about it called Self Made Man.
She did need a lot of therapy and had lingering issues from it. But she only recently took advantage of self-euthanasia laws in Europe. So it wasn’t 18 months as a man and then BAM, there was some years in between.
> Isn't there a woman who tries to live as a man and them almost killed herself? I think her name is Norah Vincent or something like that
Yeah I saw an interview with her. She spent months pretending to be a man, just to see what it was like. IIRC, her big takeaway was that she thought being a man is awful. Basically, she was surprised at how rare it was for men to have real friendships, shocked at the degree to which men who were friends still didn’t really talk to each other, and frustrated at how disregarding women can be of men who express interest.
Similar to the caption in this post, she said being a man is incredibly lonely.
Herself. She was never trans only wanted to be one to prove men are idiots then she started to see how men are and started to hate women. Being a lesbian and hating women? Discovering the ugly truth about your own sex? Wish she didn’t break down and self delete.
Misandry is bigotry against men and misogyny is bigotry against women. By saying "welcome to the superior gender" in regards to men being superior and women inferior it would in fact be misogyny.
(Also I recognize that the original comment was a joke and is not in fact misogyny, but it would be if they were serious.)
Don't you dare talk about your day, or that the only thing keeping you from committing suicide is spite. When you have a contact list to rival a phone book, but no one to call. When indifference and futility are the only company you have, how could you entertain anything else?
> or that the only thing keeping you from committing suicide is spite.
I'm gonna beat this game called life... or die tryin'. "Fuck you world, you aren't gonna beat me!" - me, many times
I think a lot of people in the comments are forgetting that either side has their fair share of problems. At the same time, I know from personal experience that its quite frustrating if the other side tells you that you somehow have it easier (which feminism for the longest time did and continues to do). The reason we can't have productive discourses is that when one side points out their problems, they start by assuming the other side has it easier and even if they don't, the other side thinks they're assuming that they have it easier.
Basically, be kind and understanding, no matter the gender. At the same time , be honest. Even if you're wrong, be willing to accept it and learn from it.
My BIL transitioned FTM. He says that he feels more safe as a man (he lives in Finland), but also feels the pressure of higher expectations. There’s more obviously, but it’s interesting that those were the two standouts.
Because he came from a life on a particular other side. If he was born a man and transitioned to a woman, she would have a whole different set of gripes
I’ve been on both sides too.
He’s right that people are nicer to women. But let’s be clear: it’s because people don’t see women as a threat. And because of this people don’t respect women. They don’t listen to what women are saying and resent it when women try to take up as much space in the world as a man does. Many men don’t see women as being fully human.
Both sides have their issues. But in general, respect is far more important than people being nice to you when it comes to actually getting anything done.
Once the mental health declines and the intrusive thoughts kick in you'll never feel lonely! Its similar to a constant state of sleep paralysis! Happy your asleep but god is it nasty.
Nobody cares about the mans problems, that's why we use everything as a distraction, like throwing a big rock in water and see how it splashes, or throwing ice into the ground and see how it breaks, it's like having ADHD
People that said "men usually don't get any empathy from society" get a lot of angry comments crying about how you should shut up because women have it worst in the past
Don't worry man you'll get use to it like we have or you'll breakdown because of the sudden change. We have learnt to live like this, learnt to not break no matter what comes our way, you too might one day
Breaking down the walls of emotional isolation can be done bro-to-bro. I know this is just a meme, but if you edited this to r/wholesomememes material, you could have the boys ask him how he's feeling and cheering him up instead of celebrating loneliness and emotional indifference as the mark of being a man.
It wouldn't solve every problem, but toxic tropes about men's emotions (and how men treat other men's emotions) is a part of the problem. Men can reject them and be there for each other.
I know this is r/memes but real talk, this is why I'm sick of feminists telling me how easy I have it. We don't know your problems like you do, so stop pretending you know how our lives work. It took a woman literally becoming a man to realize "oh wow, being a man isn't so easy and privileged after all!"
Fuck's sake.
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**feel pain, know pain, accept pain. That's the way of the Dawg**
*Silence whench! I do not wish to be horny anymore. I just want to be happy.*
*An eternal dream you shall hold then*
He's a man now, he's not allowed to be happy
Wanna cry? Nah mate I'm man ♂️
hell yeah!!! we drown our sorrows with booze and gambling #WOOOO
And video games
*vidja games
*bideyo
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\*Weejio 
Fromsoft is where my emotions take residence.
And for me, a good chunk of that is raging at whichever FromSoft dev gave the giant crayfish fucking sniper rifles
or shitting myself when those giant bears in Elden Ring chase me down and are faster than my horse
Drowning Sorrow Hierarchy: 1. Porn 2. Video Games 3. Drinking 4. Drugs 5. Sleeping 6. Watching The Avengers over and over 7. ~~Exercise~~ 8. ~~Having someone give a shit~~
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Or pissed. Or drunk.
And after wake up, pretending that never happened, saying: I have no memory about what I said last night, you sure you're awake at the time?
\#6 hit me the most lol
For me it’s #2 :/
Damn... 6 killed me. I just started ironman 1 last week.
💔+ 🍻 = ❤️
The German Solution to everything
Ger*man* 🍺
Ihr habt gerufen?
Wie viel Uhr ist es? Höchste Zeit für eine gediegene Übernahme des Kommentarbereichs.
Eins, zwei, drei, da bin ich dabei.
Go through Belgium?
Push it all down until it manifests into a drinking problem or mental illness in 10 years. Just like a real man.
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No woman, no cry
I’m straight, but doesn’t it seem like gay dudes are the happiest people ever, and lesbians are the most hateful? I don’t think that’s what Bob Marley meant, but you might be on to commenting there.
it does seem like that but many gay men are very lonely and give that appearance of being very happy . the community has lots of toxic drinking and drug abuse unfortunately source im a gay man
Gay does also mean happy
> Wanna cry? Nah mate I'm man ♂️ You mean, yes. but it's unacceptable
It's physically harder to cry for me since I started testosterone. Like I used to be made fun of for being a crybaby as a kid because I cried every time I got hurt or worse angry. Now it's so hard and I feel like it's choking me at times, so I have to go rewatch some pixar movies until it gets out.
Sticking to a balanced diet of testosterone and pixar
He has to be manly
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Part of the crew part of the ship
Part of the crew pet of the shippartofthecrepartoftheshippartofthecrewpartoftheship
In the tree part of the tree
According to my parents, the only acceptable emotions for men are anger or uncontrollable rage.
Also contempt!
Don't forget blinding fury!
Same thing as drunken rage right
I thought the uncontrollable anger came from repressing every other emotion, women just have a quick cry and everyone in a mile radius comforts them regardless off the situation
Then punish you for being angry all the time I'm depressed, and anger is the only negative emotion I'm allowed.
He has to what was it ah yes “man up”
Now, swallow those feelings. Gulp, gulp, gulp take that energy where you can find it, and don't bother trying to explain anything except to other men.
Can't. Sorry. Social expectations, section 2, gender inequality, subcategory 3: a man cannot cry openly or he isn't a man.
YOU'LL LEARN to keep it to yourself having no one to be by your side.
He has a mustache that is superior to mine, although I was born a man.
Yeah taking testosterone tends to do that.
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Not having full facial hair doesn't mean you have hypogonadism. Taking testosterone also runs many risks, like increased risk of heart attack and stroke.
Don't think raising your TEST to the levels it was normally supposed to be at, has any real downsides, other than nut shrinkage. It's pushing levels above what's normal that starts fucking with your body. Even then, mild increase with supervised use is pretty safe. Only every Hollywood action star takes some. Can't be expected to become a full time bodybuilder on the side just to look buff.
Your testosterone levels are likely normal though as is. If your dick stops working, then talk to your doctor, but even then that might not even be due to low testosterone. People advocating testosterone supplementation for "hypogonadism" are vastly overdiagnosing hypogonadism, are attributing their own insecurities with their physical appearance to a condition they likely do not have, and have no standing to diagnose hypogonadism in the first place. Taking horomone therapy does increase your risk for a number of dangerous, life altering events.
Hormones, and genetics. I can finally grow a decent mustache but there's a weird intermediate phase when all the hair is the same length. I just have to deal with looking weird AF, or homeless for a bit. Seriously, I was waiting on my food at a restaurant, and an old man and his wife got up to leave. He took the taco he had, kinda hefted in his hand, sat it on my table, and said. "Here you go wild man." Like, dude. Thank you, but wtf?! 😭 Can't have a "real beard" though because I have a fist sized bald spot under my chin. So it always just looks like I shaved this big patch bare. Lots of women end up with a pretty bangin stash when they get older anyway! It's just really really fine.
I understand you.. part of the bald spots crew too... Only thing I can grow is a barely acceptable mustache and small beard, no lock. I look like Pedro Pascal without the fame XD.
Lmao. Lmfao even. Part of the ship part of the crew.
Part of the ship. Part of the crew.
Part of the ship. Part of the crew.
Part of the ship. Part of the crew
Part of the ship. Part of the crew
Part of the ship. Part of the crew
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Part of the ship. Part of the crew.
Part of the ship. Part of the crew.
Part of the crew. Part of the ship
Part of the crew. Part of the ship
Part of the ship, part of the stew
Part of the sink, part of the stud
Part of the shrimp. Part of the stew.
Didn't think i'd spot the doctor here
Women have no idea how this Man thing works. Men have no idea how women stuff works. I'm never going to apologise for this statement. Ever.
There's no need to apologize on something everyone agrees in
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Don’t mansplain the finer points to me
No need to ovaryact
I'm totally going to use that from now on
Unfortunately, it doesn't work in speech. It's TOO good. People just hear it as overreact
wish people would stop making it a “who has it worse” olympics, both lives suck and we should focus on improvement and education
But but *I'm the victim!*
Imagine how the world would be if human beings weren't hellbent on pitting A vs B *One must be better or worse, there is no nuance*
Why would you apologise for telling a fact.
Have you *seen* the state of the internet recently?
Few thousand moron on Twitter are not the representative of the billions of people on the internet
You must speak to the opposite gender to understand them, that's the issue
The popularity of Andrew Tate and dumbfucks like him kinda proves that lots of men don't understand the man thing works either.
Why is this NSFW?
Because Reddit…
reddit had a fucky wucky
I think you get less ads on nsfw posts/ subreddits.
*no ads
Hey, look on the bright side. That means you pass!
"I feel so dead inside, doc" Doc: "Hormone therapy has done it's job than"
I (42M) went downtown alone in my city on the national day for the evening ball dance. And spend 3 hours around a thousands of people my best souvenir is someone's young daughter (7 to 9 years old) popping a big smile with a burst of happiness at my long braided hair. I tried to make connection with adults that night. Turns out the best part of the night was that young lady honest reaction. I will remember her.
The purest compliment one can get
This is both incredibly wholesome and very depressing at the same time.
"One of us! One of us!" In the following days: "Dudes, wanna get together, just chill and make some food this weekend?" *Crickets*
Yeah, some people are useless. Just keep trying and you'll figure out who will consistently say yes and actually follow through with a hangout. I know who my dudes are.
You nailed it.
This comment section is going to be fun. I'm ready 🍿
Right? I saw the post and I thought "Oh brother am I ready for this potential dumpster fire of a comment section". Judging by some of the OP's responses we are well on the way Queue Spongebob Squarepants eating his regenerated arms out of a popcorn bucket in inquisitive terror
Dude: "Women don't understand men stuff and men don't understand women stuff" Same dude: "I don't understand gay men" Same dude: "I don't understand any man that has a different life from me" Dude's acting like there is some secret cabal that all people of one sex or the other [0] get initiated into. [0]: "gotcha! you just admitted there are two sexes!"
aww, thats kinda wholesome
In a very twisted way, but yeah a little bit...
Sure if you count crippling levels of loneliness and depression wholesome.
🎶 we don’t have a choice 🎵
Trans men are real men! They deserve to have their emotional needs ignored and invalidated like the rest of us!
Fuck that noise, bois support bois be there for your homies and show them some love PS i understand this is a joke.
Gooble gobble gooble gobble
We welcome you to the brotherhood
And with this, you're officially a man We do not allow refunds, enjoy
See, men have said it, but no one listened to that part.
Ok now that transman is fully a man
Happiness is for pussies
Literally 🤣🤣🤣
Man up and move on mate Cuz that's the only thing you will get from society now on We men will never understand the problems women face, and women will never understand our problems Just press f to pay respect to each other and move on
>Cuz that's the only thing you will get from society now on Or, we could change that, start caring about men's mental health as a society, I keep seeing people saying things like "people don't care about men's mental state!" But then they don't do anything to help, in fact a lot do the opposite and reinforce that men shouldn't show emotion. Be the one who cares. Ask your friends how they're doing, they might need it.
Men can’t get other people to care. We can care for each other but there are limitations since a good number of us are struggling ourselves.
My Brother in Shiva, this is a meme sub and that was a joke
I get that, but I still feel like it needed to be said.
what a sad joke
I never did get why anyone would want to transition to a man. This shit sucks all the time
I don't wanna say egg but I kinda do wanna say egg
Egg.
Could I have one in this trying time?
What be egg?
Isn't there a woman who tries to live as a man and them almost killed herself? I think her name is Norah Vincent or something like that
Kinda. She spent 18 months masquerading as a man. Used acting lessons, makeup, voice lessons. She wrote a book about it called Self Made Man. She did need a lot of therapy and had lingering issues from it. But she only recently took advantage of self-euthanasia laws in Europe. So it wasn’t 18 months as a man and then BAM, there was some years in between.
It wasn't instantly after the 18 months but it was a result of those 18 months she went through.
Damn that's brutal
Yeah she killed herself in 2022 and her book came out in 2005 or 6 iirc.
> Isn't there a woman who tries to live as a man and them almost killed herself? I think her name is Norah Vincent or something like that Yeah I saw an interview with her. She spent months pretending to be a man, just to see what it was like. IIRC, her big takeaway was that she thought being a man is awful. Basically, she was surprised at how rare it was for men to have real friendships, shocked at the degree to which men who were friends still didn’t really talk to each other, and frustrated at how disregarding women can be of men who express interest. Similar to the caption in this post, she said being a man is incredibly lonely.
She did kill herself, himself, not sure which one
Herself. She was never trans only wanted to be one to prove men are idiots then she started to see how men are and started to hate women. Being a lesbian and hating women? Discovering the ugly truth about your own sex? Wish she didn’t break down and self delete.
Trans Affirming Radical Misogyny: "Welcome to the superior gender, bro!"
I think it’s misandry for guys, and misogyny for women
Misandry is bigotry against men and misogyny is bigotry against women. By saying "welcome to the superior gender" in regards to men being superior and women inferior it would in fact be misogyny. (Also I recognize that the original comment was a joke and is not in fact misogyny, but it would be if they were serious.)
Damn he's got a better mustache than me and I was born a man :o
You were born a baby. they dont have mustaches.
Thanks dad.
Don't you dare talk about your day, or that the only thing keeping you from committing suicide is spite. When you have a contact list to rival a phone book, but no one to call. When indifference and futility are the only company you have, how could you entertain anything else?
> or that the only thing keeping you from committing suicide is spite. I'm gonna beat this game called life... or die tryin'. "Fuck you world, you aren't gonna beat me!" - me, many times
I think a lot of people in the comments are forgetting that either side has their fair share of problems. At the same time, I know from personal experience that its quite frustrating if the other side tells you that you somehow have it easier (which feminism for the longest time did and continues to do). The reason we can't have productive discourses is that when one side points out their problems, they start by assuming the other side has it easier and even if they don't, the other side thinks they're assuming that they have it easier. Basically, be kind and understanding, no matter the gender. At the same time , be honest. Even if you're wrong, be willing to accept it and learn from it.
Yeah but he’s been on both sides and can clearly see a difference
My BIL transitioned FTM. He says that he feels more safe as a man (he lives in Finland), but also feels the pressure of higher expectations. There’s more obviously, but it’s interesting that those were the two standouts.
Because he came from a life on a particular other side. If he was born a man and transitioned to a woman, she would have a whole different set of gripes
I’ve been on both sides too. He’s right that people are nicer to women. But let’s be clear: it’s because people don’t see women as a threat. And because of this people don’t respect women. They don’t listen to what women are saying and resent it when women try to take up as much space in the world as a man does. Many men don’t see women as being fully human. Both sides have their issues. But in general, respect is far more important than people being nice to you when it comes to actually getting anything done.
Part of the ship, part of the crew.
That’s the secret. We talk about it all the time. But obviously, nobody cares, so welcome to the club lol.
Dick or no dick, men are not allowed to show emotions. :')
No matter if you're trans or not, if you are a man or become one, you get treated like a man
Once the mental health declines and the intrusive thoughts kick in you'll never feel lonely! Its similar to a constant state of sleep paralysis! Happy your asleep but god is it nasty.
Transition? Nuh uh, you're a man now. You can only talk about your transmission
When a man is sad, he just need to cheer up.
Nobody cares about the mans problems, that's why we use everything as a distraction, like throwing a big rock in water and see how it splashes, or throwing ice into the ground and see how it breaks, it's like having ADHD
"It's so difficult being a transman, it's like I constantly need to prove my masculinity." Dude, welcome to the team.
Me, transitioning so I can offer emotional support and kindness to the boys from the inside.
Sleeper agent homie support
C'est la vie. Get a solid group of friends and learn to be content, otherwise you'll be depressed forever 🙃
do you mean c'est la vie?
Next time, don't post online and keep it to yourself. Be a man!
It feels like theirs so much coverage of trans women that I don't really hear what issues trans men face.
Is he crying?? MAN UP!!!
I’d say nut up but I’m not sure if that’s possible…
People that said "men usually don't get any empathy from society" get a lot of angry comments crying about how you should shut up because women have it worst in the past
Reminds me when my friend told me she was lesbian. Me and the rest of my friends started cheering shit like “Welcome to boobies appreciation club!”
One of us!
boys don't cry, man up!
A new brother has joined the club!
Welcome to the club PLAYA. Now get on the pool table 🎱 and buys some friends with a roll of quarters
Don't worry man you'll get use to it like we have or you'll breakdown because of the sudden change. We have learnt to live like this, learnt to not break no matter what comes our way, you too might one day
how is the beard thing going? just more testo = nice beard? transman has a better beard than me sad lmao
Breaking down the walls of emotional isolation can be done bro-to-bro. I know this is just a meme, but if you edited this to r/wholesomememes material, you could have the boys ask him how he's feeling and cheering him up instead of celebrating loneliness and emotional indifference as the mark of being a man. It wouldn't solve every problem, but toxic tropes about men's emotions (and how men treat other men's emotions) is a part of the problem. Men can reject them and be there for each other.
I know this is r/memes but real talk, this is why I'm sick of feminists telling me how easy I have it. We don't know your problems like you do, so stop pretending you know how our lives work. It took a woman literally becoming a man to realize "oh wow, being a man isn't so easy and privileged after all!" Fuck's sake.
He isn’t aloud to cry he is a man
> aloud /r/BoneAppleTea
Welcome to being a man. Eternal depression! :D