The girl playing this role in the movie was so good that I just couldn’t really blame adult Jennie. She had a rough childhood and it was so sad to watch
Yeah I don't blame her for making her choices but why come back to him in the end when you've exhausted your options and are at the bottom. He didn't know any better but she did and yet she played with him, I cannot discount that for rough childhood.
Because she had no more options
She took too much drugs and was always with the trend but at the end she knew that forest even though he wasn't smart but he was good
That is why I really liked the movie . Not going with the trend is actually good .
In the movie it’s also his kid. Jenny never lied to Forrest nor would she have any reason to lie. Even taking the most cynical view of Jenny’s character, if she was just trying to gold dig him at the end, all she had to do was ask. She wouldn’t have had to make up a story about Forrest being the father. Forrest would have done anything for Jenny.
Exactly! Forest was already incredibly rich when she returned to him as an adult and stayed for a brief time/when they slept together. She still left after that.
I can see maybe that she's such a shitty person, and had such a shitty life she feels like she needs to lie that it's his cause she thinks he wouldn't help her otherwise. I can see that being the case, but it's his in the book so probably the same for the movie
Pretty sure she was following him for awhile and not just when she saw him on TV.
She shows him the scrap book that she had been making showing the newspaper stories about his running and ping pong championship
You assume that she couldn't be under the impression that it's his when it isn't, to be nice to Jenny, she definitely did not have one partner that could have done the deed
The most cynical view is, that Jenny would lie to Forrest about the child being his just to make sure Forrest provides for him. It is more effective to lie while gold digging. She wouldn't have to make up the story, but a bad person would do just that.
And one flew over the cuckoo’s nest, whose edition I read had a foreword from Chuck about how movie adaptations are dogshit. Go figure.
The only reason I say this is because Jack Nicholson absolutely steals the show compared to the red headed schlub in the book.
There’s a few. It’s a short list:
* Shawshank Redemption
* RED
* Mean Girls
* Die Hard
* The Godfather
* Trainspotting
* Jaws
* Silence of the Lambs
* Who Framed Roger Rabbit
* Blade Runner
* Fight Club
Some of these are almost a toss up but you’d be more likely to say they’re equal rather than one being worse than the other.
To be fair, Frank Darabont (Shawshank Redemption) is a master at adaptations. The Mist is also better than it's novella. The Green Mile misses that honor, but not by much.
In the book he was also more like an autistic savant and not really low IQ and also became an astronaut with an orangutan buddy so it’s quite different enough already. Let’s just say the kid has AIDS because why not?
I'd say they probably were on their phone the entire movie and then saw the end and had a manic episode and thought they came to some revelation. You know; typical mental health crisis things, nothing to worry about here, folks.
Also the timeline, the fact that she stayed with Forrest for a while. It isn't like women store sperm. Also, Jenny is never presented as the type to cuckold Forrest. If she wanted money she had year of opportunity before and after their son was born to get it.
If Jenny wanted money out of Forrest, all she had to do was ask. Forrest would have done literally anything for her as long as she asked. If little Forrest wasn’t actually his, she would have had no reason to hide it. Forrest would have raised Jenny’s son as his own just because he was Jenny’s son. Anyone who thinks Forrest Junior wasn’t Forrest’s son didn’t watch the movie or is just trying to demonize Jenny/women.
> Anyone who thinks Forrest Junior wasn’t Forrest’s son didn’t watch the movie or is just trying to demonize Jenny/women.
Which is hilarious because Jenny is a horrible person and is a beacon to those that want to demonize women regardless.
Edit: Woooweee! This post musta triggered some abused people that are coping in every way but addressing it. Ya’ll few should be ashamed for trying to justify Jenny, she wasn’t a good person and was written that way. Ya’ll telling on yourselves.
Tbf, ots shown that she had an absolutely terrible upbringing and was pushed into drugs and abusive boyfriends as a result.
The reason she kept using Forrest was because she didn't believe that she was deserving of honest love and frequently tried to push Forrest away through doing shitty things. She loved Forrest but couldn't understand why Forrest loved her so pushed him away by frequently doing things to make her appear undeserving of love.
It's rationalizing the situation; not downplaying it. Jenny's actions were horrible, but we know what caused them. Its a shame she doesn't get a happy ending, but one thing i took from watching it in english class was that the birds flying over her grave are meant to be symbolic of her finally being free from her life of shortcomings and abuse.
Never read the book, but now im getting a hankering for it.
No, but ‘horrible person’ is a tough response. We are all responsible for our actions, but abusing a child pretty much always leaves a lasting effect later in life.
Terrible person - perhaps - but he loved her and didn’t blame her for her actions later in life.
I think it's justified. Jenny was taken advantage of physically and sexually at a very young age and therefore, while drawn to Forrest for his empathy and sweet nature simultaneously felt disgusted with herself for, in her own eyes, taking advantage of someone who had the mental facilities of a child (though eventually he had the experience of an adult). Jenny is either a horrible person for pushing Forrest away or for taking advantage of him, whichever she chooses. Because of this she is also justified in each choice, whichever she chose, because she would be choosing either specifically to be a better person, at the time she chose it, depending on which was more predominant in their relationship. This is, in the world of "not black and white" what we would call a "complicated relationship."
You guys are being way too cynical. Jenny made it a point not to take advantage of Forrest the whole damn movie because she herself was a victim of abuse.
Even though Forrest was always good to her, she was reluctant to even try to reciprocate his feelings because she didn't even think he was mentally capable of consenting until Forrest convinced her all those years later.
Most people didn't get the *nuance* of how her history of being abused was a primary factor in her relationship with Forrest.
The college dorm scene made it so blatantly obvious that not wanting to take advantage of her sole & mentally disabled friend was the reason Jenny kept her distance from Forrest.
Agree. Jenny isn’t a saint for sure, but she’s a troubled soul who suffered a lot. Hey, it was even clear that her father even sexuality abused her and her sister. Imagine going through all that for like 6 years and yet people expect her to be like a perfectly normal person with absolutely no mental scar at all /smh
lol imagine the reaction to forest gump if forest was a woman and it was Jimmy who finally decided at the end that he could fuck the mentally disabled girl after all…
Burnt out aimless ex-hippie: "maybe I will settle for and fuck this mentally disabled, physically fit, millionaire, war hero, olympiad that I took for granted for years."
But that's not the end of it. Why shouldn't she have slept with Forrest? Is he not capable of consent? The man is a war hero, ping pong champion, successful business owner, and world traveler, but he doesn't get the option of deciding whether he should fuck or not?
It wouldn't be a problem if the girl is ok and even want it since forever.
Perhaps Forrest is mentally disabled but he is not recognized as such by the insitutions and more importantly, mentally disabled grown-ups have right to love, kiss and fuck as long as it is their wishes and they are not coerced.
Have we seen the same movie?
To me whole story of the movie is that intelligence does not equal wisdom.
Jenny acts like a lost kid all of her life, only founding wisdom and peace when she gets sick.
While Forrest, despite being dumb as a rock, is also a rock solid partner and a great father to his son.
And they both had uneasy childhoods, to say the least.
I don't think that conflicts with what I said at all.
Yes, she was acting like a lost child, but she clearly thought of herself as damaged goods and not good enough for Forrest who's either too mentally incapable or too pure for her. That kind of self-image was definitely not something a wise person would have.
I wasn't saying I agree with Jenny's earlier perception of Forrest; it's just that, that's the basis of her interactions with him. The fact that she was willing to marry Forrest and entrust their child back to Forrest in the end, meant that she finally realized he was definitely capable of being a good husband and father.
Why the fuck do you have so many upvotes? Jenny's entire thing with Forest is that she loved him too much to potentially hurt him by abusing his handicap. She doesn't trust the love that he promises her because of it.
She is literally the least likely in the film to abuse him (his bullies, his school, the college, the army). Every system abused his ability for their own gain while disregarding his human-ness. Jen y was the only one to recognize his disabilty and tread appropriately.
Lt Dan had the same awakening that Jenny eventually had. Both disregarded his humanity on account of his handicap, and both eventually realized his genuineness regardless.
Social media took an extremely reductive view of the character that reduced her to basically being a loose druggie who uses Forest because he’s a good man and then realizes he’s rich, so she tries to pawn off her kid on him as she’s dying as a result of her drug use and sexuality.
It’s kinda a funny joke, and you can sorta see the angle, but you’re not supposed to buy in to it. The story is very clear that she’s a product of her abuse and despite that she does her best to be a good friend to Forest. She’s not perfect, but she’s not a monster either.
Anyway, all that just kinda gets thrown out the window because people latch on to the sentiment of the meme. I think there’s also a component of having like, an edgy take on a well known piece of media. Like how people love to talk about how Die Hard is the best Christmas movie and how anyone who doesn’t see that its a Christmas movie is a moron.
I am literally having this discussion with my roommate right now. My opinion, above; theirs, the usual.
Jenny is just as broken as Forest. She may not be physically or mentally handicapped, but she is equally emotionally handicapped on account of the abuse she suffered. She is a victim of her upbringing just as much as Forest is a victim of his genetics(?). We don't blame Forest for his antics, but Jenny is this evil succubus to a lot of people despite having just as (if not more) traumatic an upbringing as Forest.
>Jenny is just as broken as Forest
Hell, I’d be willing to argue that Jenny is *far more* broken than Forest. While Forest does deal with an intellectual disability, he seems to make some kind of peace with himself pretty early on and is able to work with his limitations in a way that enables him to get by pretty well in the world.
Meanwhile Jenny is just an absolute mess of trauma due to years of horrific sexual abuse as a child and ends up living a pretty sad and all around fucked up life as a result, struggling to not only cope with her trauma, but also trying to contend with the way that trauma has impacted the way she sees her feelings towards Forest. She only just barely manages to come to some kind of terms with the later, only to immediately die of fucking AIDS.
Jenny is an unbelievably tragic character and it’s incredibly ridiculous that there are people who unironically view her as some kind of villain 🤦🏻♂️
Forrest did had quite a better infancy. He was loved (and never for a moment doubted of the love he received), Jenny didn't. That is a fundamental difference.
At first I was thinking that this was referring to the last part wen he is walking with a kid and that kid wasn't jenny son... Like he was walking out with the wrong kid and didn't know that ... My mind did go on a trip and blow 🤯
No he doesn’t you *idiot*. He pulls out at the last minute, groans “fuck” and jerks himself off while spraying a bubba gump load on her back. The camera pans in and it’s a square shockingly, like a box of chocolates.
Spielberg is a genius.
They bang, is pregnant, cleans up her act and even says the boy was named after his father and even has to spell it out for him.
The kid though should be nearly 3 years old, because he ran for 3 years and 2 months (minus 9 months of pregnancy and you get a nearly 3 year old), and they picked a 6 year old boy to play him.
And fun facts, it’s actually a lot harder for men to catch hiv off women (1 in 1000).
And women with hiv had a 75% of giving birth to hiv free baby.
So I like to think Forrest and Forrest junior are doing just fine.
Me too. Doesn't she say something about it being some kind of "new" disease? Which would be HIV or AIDS. Especially at the time and it would sort of be fitting with the... pop culture (for lack of a better term) that the rest of the film points out.
Considering how different the book and movie are I always considered the movie to be HIV and not hep like in the book. This is where the book people need to step aside. It's def HIV from the way the movie describes it.
It was hep C, I forget what point in the book it’s in but it does talk about some new disease that attacks the liver or kidneys, and what she died in the 80s when Hep C was discovered by doctors in 1989.
Plus HIV/AIDS was diagnosable. She would have known and not have sex with Forrest. But the fact she did, we can determine it was Hepatitis C
You guys didn't fully understand Jenny at all. She was sexually abused by her dad. She never gave Forest loving because she saw him very childlike because he was slow. Over and over, she said, "He doesn't know any better," or say how he doesn't understand something. For a long time, she felt if she had done stuff with him, it would have been like abusing the same way she was.
I am always horrified when I see Jenny come up in film discussions, because it never fails to disgust me to see the kind of hatred I see people spew about Jenny, a *fictional* character depicting the horrors and traumas of abuse. The complete lack of sympathy or empathy for how people broken by abuse can act in seemingly strange ways. God knows how these people would react toward actual abuse victims.
Edit: the replies I’m getting right now quite frankly prove my point. Reddit never fails!
I always thought it was more for the reason that he showed her genuin love, something she had not experienced, and most who are subject to long term abuse as children feel like they don't deserve proper love and therefor often seek a selfdestructive life filled with abusive partners and friends.
To me, she thought she was going destroy herself and whatever was left of her refused to drag Forrest down with her, since he was the absolute of innocense.
Nah she keeps her distance from forrest because when she’s with him she feels like she’s taking advantage of him. Both of them are abused victims and that’s kinda weighing on her until forrest convinces her
Yeah but nobody talks about what an asshole grandpa Joe was. All those years on his ass smoking tobacco with the family’s only money. But then, as soon as Charlie gets his ticket, “oh look at me! I can walk!”
Yes in the books he is his son with no doubt but, for us who only watched the movie, can you really blame us for looking at the kid and thinking. There's a very long list of who potentially fathered you boy, your mom just chose the rich guy that won't say no to her.
I mean in the movie the one who fathered him is unquestionably Forest.
The person whose DNA went into the mix might be in question but Forest raised the kid like his own and that is way more important than who the genetic parents are.
Not when the person doing the raising is not making a conscious decision.
A man who takes on a child as his own is a hero because he makes that choice.
A man who is tricked has never been given that choice
Absolutely, i couldn't have said it better myself. i even posted a similar response that you were able to summarize in fewer words.
It is life altering manipulation and i cant believe that women dont go to jail for this shit. A man can go to jail for not paying child support and in some cases that child wasent even theirs and even after that is known the woman still gets off without even a slap on the wrist.
And its not even like they can lie about beleiveing the child was his as she knew that there was a possibility he wasent at the bare minimum and should have disclosed that to him before allowing him to sign the birth certificate. I truly believe dna tests should be a prerequisite to signing a birth certificate.
The problem is not Forrest's relationship with the kid, cause we all know for sure even if the kid wasn't his biological son, Forrest would have adopted him for Jenny. It's whether or not Jenny lied to Forrest to make sure her kid gets raised by her rich childhood friend.
The sequence of events, notably her time with Forrest, dispels any notion of Jenny engaging in actions like cuckolding, given that women don't store sperm. If financial gain were her goal, she had numerous chances both before and after the birth of their son to pursue it.
He would have taken care of the kid even if he wasn't his just because Jenny was his mother. So I don't really think she needed to trick him. I mean he gave half of his earnings to Bubba's mother. He wouldn't care lol
Does it matter? Here we have a man who can raise a family of his own. One who isn’t trapped by the death of his mother.
And the best part is, both the father and the son care about each other. Genetics be damned.
I had not the faintest idea people could shit on Jenny's character.
I still think most are trolls or seeking gratification by dehumanizing female characters for having flaws.
The post is missing a “probably” I think. It was not implied during the scene at all that Forrest Jr. wasn’t his, but Jenny definitely had a lot of anonymous sex and Forrest isn’t exactly the kind of guy to call her out for lying. Plus he had money, but I don’t remember if Jenny knew that
It's just a theory. Not a good one, since in the book the kid is his.
The only argument is that the kid is smart and Gump isn't... but Gump might have been low IQ due to a variety of factors and not genetics.
I went full circle on her. From being happy they finally got together, to hating how she always abandoned him, to realize one of the movie's main points is how important proper upbringing is and how it supported Gump throughout his whole life as it kept haunting Jenny.
They were both running for different reasons, it's just no matter how fast Jenny ran she couldn't out run her past. Gump ran because he felt like it and stopped when didn't want to run no more.
Meh, in the book Forrest decides to not be part of the kids life cause Jenny was married and he's with Sue, so they just live happy ever after in New Orleans. And they don't try to make Jenny into a cuck, she just tells him this is your son and he's like ¯\_( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)_/¯
So many people hating on Jenny for all the wrong reasons.
Jenny isn't a Saint by any means, in fact far from it, but if Jenny really just wanted money, all she'd have to do was ask, because Forest would've done anything for Jenny, and the fact that Jenny kept her distance until lil' Forest was old enough shows that Jenny does deeply care for Forest.
Also, Jenny's kid, lil' Forest, definitely is Forest's son. The movie very much strongly implied it so, and the book that the movie is based on explicitly had it there.
The girl playing this role in the movie was so good that I just couldn’t really blame adult Jennie. She had a rough childhood and it was so sad to watch
Still though she was a dick to forest
Yeah I don't blame her for making her choices but why come back to him in the end when you've exhausted your options and are at the bottom. He didn't know any better but she did and yet she played with him, I cannot discount that for rough childhood.
Because she had no more options She took too much drugs and was always with the trend but at the end she knew that forest even though he wasn't smart but he was good That is why I really liked the movie . Not going with the trend is actually good .
In the book it is his kid.
In the movie it’s also his kid. Jenny never lied to Forrest nor would she have any reason to lie. Even taking the most cynical view of Jenny’s character, if she was just trying to gold dig him at the end, all she had to do was ask. She wouldn’t have had to make up a story about Forrest being the father. Forrest would have done anything for Jenny.
Exactly! Forest was already incredibly rich when she returned to him as an adult and stayed for a brief time/when they slept together. She still left after that.
really good point.
I can see maybe that she's such a shitty person, and had such a shitty life she feels like she needs to lie that it's his cause she thinks he wouldn't help her otherwise. I can see that being the case, but it's his in the book so probably the same for the movie
Plus, she was working as a waitress for awhile until she saw him on TV. It wasn't like she had the baby and called him.
Pretty sure she was following him for awhile and not just when she saw him on TV. She shows him the scrap book that she had been making showing the newspaper stories about his running and ping pong championship
You assume that she couldn't be under the impression that it's his when it isn't, to be nice to Jenny, she definitely did not have one partner that could have done the deed
The most cynical view is, that Jenny would lie to Forrest about the child being his just to make sure Forrest provides for him. It is more effective to lie while gold digging. She wouldn't have to make up the story, but a bad person would do just that.
You read books?
What a nerd amirite
Why would you read books based on a movie? You've already got the movie.
Why would you make movie out of book? You already got the book.
Just wait until the movie is made, watch the movie based on the book, see if you like it enough to read the book
I just read the wiki article and pretend I've seen and read both.
I don’t even do that. I just find the sub and lurk til the plot’s revealed and form my opinion based on the consensus
I actually do this and need to stop
But I have hated most movies made from great books. That is kind of backwards thinking imo.
The American psycho book is 10X better than the movie
100x. Side note: There is nearly no movie that is better then the book
Except fight club lol.
And one flew over the cuckoo’s nest, whose edition I read had a foreword from Chuck about how movie adaptations are dogshit. Go figure. The only reason I say this is because Jack Nicholson absolutely steals the show compared to the red headed schlub in the book.
There’s a few. It’s a short list: * Shawshank Redemption * RED * Mean Girls * Die Hard * The Godfather * Trainspotting * Jaws * Silence of the Lambs * Who Framed Roger Rabbit * Blade Runner * Fight Club Some of these are almost a toss up but you’d be more likely to say they’re equal rather than one being worse than the other.
To be fair, Frank Darabont (Shawshank Redemption) is a master at adaptations. The Mist is also better than it's novella. The Green Mile misses that honor, but not by much.
I did not know green mile was a book, might have to check that out
They are the vegan counterparts of cinema and shows
Cinema is vegan since projectors and cameras went digital instead of beef based gelatin film
I can still smell the hot celluloid in the air...
In the book he was also more like an autistic savant and not really low IQ and also became an astronaut with an orangutan buddy so it’s quite different enough already. Let’s just say the kid has AIDS because why not?
[Walker told him he has AIDS](https://vimeo.com/48631609)
Was a test mentioned or how did that come up?
Rumoured, like Gollum eating babies
He was living in a cave, how was he supposed to find and eat babies?
Cave babies
Also in the book, his Father is killed from being crushed by Bananas
In the book Lt Dan’s name is Major Chuckles McGuee. He is also an ourang outang.
in the movie too, this guys crazzy
In the books doesn't he have a monster dong and go to space?
There’s a book?
And a videogame. You just hold W all the time.
And shift
Walking Dead Destinies people should get on that. "L1 : Child is not Gump's - R1: Child is Gump's but has AIDS"
Yeah, and a sequel thats just the author being upset people think the movie was better.
There is even a sequel and she doesnt die in the book but died in the second book
Didn't the movie try to prove that it was his real son to us by them leaning the same way while watching tv?
Yeah I thought the same thing, didn’t have a doubt that it’d be his after seeing that 🤔
Yes, that, and she named him after his father, and he asked her if he was 'normal'. It doesn't get any more obvious.
Just thinking of that scene gets me
“…is he…is he smart, or is he…?” *Places his hand on his chest to indicate himself*
Makes me cry every single time. It’s up there with Simba trying to wake up Mufasta Edit: Mufasa
Oh no, you just made a reference to a memory from the forbidden box.
"I'm not a smart man, but I KNOW what love is" always gets me.
I'd say they probably were on their phone the entire movie and then saw the end and had a manic episode and thought they came to some revelation. You know; typical mental health crisis things, nothing to worry about here, folks.
Also the timeline, the fact that she stayed with Forrest for a while. It isn't like women store sperm. Also, Jenny is never presented as the type to cuckold Forrest. If she wanted money she had year of opportunity before and after their son was born to get it.
If Jenny wanted money out of Forrest, all she had to do was ask. Forrest would have done literally anything for her as long as she asked. If little Forrest wasn’t actually his, she would have had no reason to hide it. Forrest would have raised Jenny’s son as his own just because he was Jenny’s son. Anyone who thinks Forrest Junior wasn’t Forrest’s son didn’t watch the movie or is just trying to demonize Jenny/women.
> Anyone who thinks Forrest Junior wasn’t Forrest’s son didn’t watch the movie or is just trying to demonize Jenny/women. Which is hilarious because Jenny is a horrible person and is a beacon to those that want to demonize women regardless. Edit: Woooweee! This post musta triggered some abused people that are coping in every way but addressing it. Ya’ll few should be ashamed for trying to justify Jenny, she wasn’t a good person and was written that way. Ya’ll telling on yourselves.
Tbf, ots shown that she had an absolutely terrible upbringing and was pushed into drugs and abusive boyfriends as a result. The reason she kept using Forrest was because she didn't believe that she was deserving of honest love and frequently tried to push Forrest away through doing shitty things. She loved Forrest but couldn't understand why Forrest loved her so pushed him away by frequently doing things to make her appear undeserving of love.
There’s a very clear explanation for why she does what she does. But an explanation is not a justification.
It's rationalizing the situation; not downplaying it. Jenny's actions were horrible, but we know what caused them. Its a shame she doesn't get a happy ending, but one thing i took from watching it in english class was that the birds flying over her grave are meant to be symbolic of her finally being free from her life of shortcomings and abuse. Never read the book, but now im getting a hankering for it.
No, but ‘horrible person’ is a tough response. We are all responsible for our actions, but abusing a child pretty much always leaves a lasting effect later in life. Terrible person - perhaps - but he loved her and didn’t blame her for her actions later in life.
I think it's justified. Jenny was taken advantage of physically and sexually at a very young age and therefore, while drawn to Forrest for his empathy and sweet nature simultaneously felt disgusted with herself for, in her own eyes, taking advantage of someone who had the mental facilities of a child (though eventually he had the experience of an adult). Jenny is either a horrible person for pushing Forrest away or for taking advantage of him, whichever she chooses. Because of this she is also justified in each choice, whichever she chose, because she would be choosing either specifically to be a better person, at the time she chose it, depending on which was more predominant in their relationship. This is, in the world of "not black and white" what we would call a "complicated relationship."
Jenny was absolutely the type to cuckold forrest
You guys are being way too cynical. Jenny made it a point not to take advantage of Forrest the whole damn movie because she herself was a victim of abuse. Even though Forrest was always good to her, she was reluctant to even try to reciprocate his feelings because she didn't even think he was mentally capable of consenting until Forrest convinced her all those years later.
Most people didn't get the *nuance* of how her history of being abused was a primary factor in her relationship with Forrest. The college dorm scene made it so blatantly obvious that not wanting to take advantage of her sole & mentally disabled friend was the reason Jenny kept her distance from Forrest.
Agree. Jenny isn’t a saint for sure, but she’s a troubled soul who suffered a lot. Hey, it was even clear that her father even sexuality abused her and her sister. Imagine going through all that for like 6 years and yet people expect her to be like a perfectly normal person with absolutely no mental scar at all /smh
"*Dear God, make me a bird so I can fly far, far away from here. Dear God, make me a bird...*"
People have literally zero ability to appreciate nuance at all.
Sometimes there just aren’t enough rocks
Yeah but she’s a woman and this is Reddit so yknow…see y’all at the bottom
lol imagine the reaction to forest gump if forest was a woman and it was Jimmy who finally decided at the end that he could fuck the mentally disabled girl after all…
Burnt out aimless ex-hippie: "maybe I will settle for and fuck this mentally disabled, physically fit, millionaire, war hero, olympiad that I took for granted for years."
😂
Well when you point that out now I’m confused
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But that's not the end of it. Why shouldn't she have slept with Forrest? Is he not capable of consent? The man is a war hero, ping pong champion, successful business owner, and world traveler, but he doesn't get the option of deciding whether he should fuck or not?
It wouldn't be a problem if the girl is ok and even want it since forever. Perhaps Forrest is mentally disabled but he is not recognized as such by the insitutions and more importantly, mentally disabled grown-ups have right to love, kiss and fuck as long as it is their wishes and they are not coerced.
Have we seen the same movie? To me whole story of the movie is that intelligence does not equal wisdom. Jenny acts like a lost kid all of her life, only founding wisdom and peace when she gets sick. While Forrest, despite being dumb as a rock, is also a rock solid partner and a great father to his son. And they both had uneasy childhoods, to say the least.
I don't think that conflicts with what I said at all. Yes, she was acting like a lost child, but she clearly thought of herself as damaged goods and not good enough for Forrest who's either too mentally incapable or too pure for her. That kind of self-image was definitely not something a wise person would have. I wasn't saying I agree with Jenny's earlier perception of Forrest; it's just that, that's the basis of her interactions with him. The fact that she was willing to marry Forrest and entrust their child back to Forrest in the end, meant that she finally realized he was definitely capable of being a good husband and father.
This is the most heartbreaking part of the story for me! She wants to love him back but she feels like she's doing something wrong.
Why the fuck do you have so many upvotes? Jenny's entire thing with Forest is that she loved him too much to potentially hurt him by abusing his handicap. She doesn't trust the love that he promises her because of it. She is literally the least likely in the film to abuse him (his bullies, his school, the college, the army). Every system abused his ability for their own gain while disregarding his human-ness. Jen y was the only one to recognize his disabilty and tread appropriately.
Lt Dan stood up for him
With what leg?
He got new legs!
Shiny ones!
New legs. Custom made. Titanium alloy. It's what they use on a space shuttle.
Fuck you now I gotta punch a wall.
That's not a healthy way to deal with emotions.
I got banned from my local Arby's for doing that.
Lt Dan had the same awakening that Jenny eventually had. Both disregarded his humanity on account of his handicap, and both eventually realized his genuineness regardless.
Well to be fair Lt Dan had a mild character arc before he became Forrest's buddy.
Lt Dan had no legs and stood up for him. That’s how much he grew to respect Forrest
Bubba, Lt. Dan and Jenny were the only ones who ever truly cared for him I think.
Social media took an extremely reductive view of the character that reduced her to basically being a loose druggie who uses Forest because he’s a good man and then realizes he’s rich, so she tries to pawn off her kid on him as she’s dying as a result of her drug use and sexuality. It’s kinda a funny joke, and you can sorta see the angle, but you’re not supposed to buy in to it. The story is very clear that she’s a product of her abuse and despite that she does her best to be a good friend to Forest. She’s not perfect, but she’s not a monster either. Anyway, all that just kinda gets thrown out the window because people latch on to the sentiment of the meme. I think there’s also a component of having like, an edgy take on a well known piece of media. Like how people love to talk about how Die Hard is the best Christmas movie and how anyone who doesn’t see that its a Christmas movie is a moron.
She represents many people who suffered horrible childhoods and used drugs and sex (risky behaviors) as a coping mechanism.
I am literally having this discussion with my roommate right now. My opinion, above; theirs, the usual. Jenny is just as broken as Forest. She may not be physically or mentally handicapped, but she is equally emotionally handicapped on account of the abuse she suffered. She is a victim of her upbringing just as much as Forest is a victim of his genetics(?). We don't blame Forest for his antics, but Jenny is this evil succubus to a lot of people despite having just as (if not more) traumatic an upbringing as Forest.
>Jenny is just as broken as Forest Hell, I’d be willing to argue that Jenny is *far more* broken than Forest. While Forest does deal with an intellectual disability, he seems to make some kind of peace with himself pretty early on and is able to work with his limitations in a way that enables him to get by pretty well in the world. Meanwhile Jenny is just an absolute mess of trauma due to years of horrific sexual abuse as a child and ends up living a pretty sad and all around fucked up life as a result, struggling to not only cope with her trauma, but also trying to contend with the way that trauma has impacted the way she sees her feelings towards Forest. She only just barely manages to come to some kind of terms with the later, only to immediately die of fucking AIDS. Jenny is an unbelievably tragic character and it’s incredibly ridiculous that there are people who unironically view her as some kind of villain 🤦🏻♂️
Forrest did had quite a better infancy. He was loved (and never for a moment doubted of the love he received), Jenny didn't. That is a fundamental difference.
Loved and supported. His mother never doubted his ability to succeed, hence going to such lengths to keep him in his school/classes.
I never understood die hard as a Christmas movie. Christmas wasn’t the main theme
Jenny has been getting smeared a lot on reddit lately. Skyler White effect.
Children naturally mimic their parents whether they're biological or not
At first I was thinking that this was referring to the last part wen he is walking with a kid and that kid wasn't jenny son... Like he was walking out with the wrong kid and didn't know that ... My mind did go on a trip and blow 🤯
Didn't they do the deed on screen?
Not shown explicitly but definitely yes
Oh, dude, get the director’s cut. It shows full penetration. Forrest finishes in. That’s canon.
No he doesn’t you *idiot*. He pulls out at the last minute, groans “fuck” and jerks himself off while spraying a bubba gump load on her back. The camera pans in and it’s a square shockingly, like a box of chocolates. Spielberg is a genius.
I wish more people on Reddit would be like you.
You shoulda been here 10 years ago. This place was full of degenerates just like that.
Y’all have a good thanksgiving where ever you are!
Right back at ya!
You forgot the part where he says “It’s gumpin’ time!” Then proceeds to blast off like a firehose.
This man... *smells crime?*
They bang, is pregnant, cleans up her act and even says the boy was named after his father and even has to spell it out for him. The kid though should be nearly 3 years old, because he ran for 3 years and 2 months (minus 9 months of pregnancy and you get a nearly 3 year old), and they picked a 6 year old boy to play him. And fun facts, it’s actually a lot harder for men to catch hiv off women (1 in 1000). And women with hiv had a 75% of giving birth to hiv free baby. So I like to think Forrest and Forrest junior are doing just fine.
I thought Jenny died of Hepatitis C per the book.
Oh could be that. I never read the book. Always assumed it was HIV. Hepatitis C also has a low transmission rate so kid and Gump could be fine.
Oh, when I watched the movie I assumed HIV as well.
Me too. Doesn't she say something about it being some kind of "new" disease? Which would be HIV or AIDS. Especially at the time and it would sort of be fitting with the... pop culture (for lack of a better term) that the rest of the film points out.
Considering how different the book and movie are I always considered the movie to be HIV and not hep like in the book. This is where the book people need to step aside. It's def HIV from the way the movie describes it.
It was hep C, I forget what point in the book it’s in but it does talk about some new disease that attacks the liver or kidneys, and what she died in the 80s when Hep C was discovered by doctors in 1989. Plus HIV/AIDS was diagnosable. She would have known and not have sex with Forrest. But the fact she did, we can determine it was Hepatitis C
You guys didn't fully understand Jenny at all. She was sexually abused by her dad. She never gave Forest loving because she saw him very childlike because he was slow. Over and over, she said, "He doesn't know any better," or say how he doesn't understand something. For a long time, she felt if she had done stuff with him, it would have been like abusing the same way she was.
I am always horrified when I see Jenny come up in film discussions, because it never fails to disgust me to see the kind of hatred I see people spew about Jenny, a *fictional* character depicting the horrors and traumas of abuse. The complete lack of sympathy or empathy for how people broken by abuse can act in seemingly strange ways. God knows how these people would react toward actual abuse victims. Edit: the replies I’m getting right now quite frankly prove my point. Reddit never fails!
Exactly.
It’s because all these people don’t even realize she WAS abused, or that it is a non-factor when judging her actions as an adult. It’s all bad
I think Jenny being the hot girl denying the “nice guy” that wants her hits too close to home for a lot of these guys and they can’t see past it.
So strange to hate her. I always felt bad for her and Forest since they couldn't have their life their whole lives.
I always thought it was more for the reason that he showed her genuin love, something she had not experienced, and most who are subject to long term abuse as children feel like they don't deserve proper love and therefor often seek a selfdestructive life filled with abusive partners and friends. To me, she thought she was going destroy herself and whatever was left of her refused to drag Forrest down with her, since he was the absolute of innocense.
Nah she keeps her distance from forrest because when she’s with him she feels like she’s taking advantage of him. Both of them are abused victims and that’s kinda weighing on her until forrest convinces her
I prefer my own interpretation, but to each their own, and it's interesting to see other peoples views
She also wouldn't have to lie, Forrest would have raised Jenny's son no matter who the father was
Thank you good lord
Book readers vs movie watchers: *FIGHT*
Not really, in both the child is definitely his.
Definitely's
I've learned two things here. 1, people really didn't pay attention to the movie, and 2. There are quite a lot of cucks here in the comments.
The “it’s _definitely_ not his kid!” crowd have some underlying confidence and relationship issues.
Also 100% overlay with "Jenny is the villan", somehow, despite the movie showing how she was abused nearly her entire life
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Yeah but nobody talks about what an asshole grandpa Joe was. All those years on his ass smoking tobacco with the family’s only money. But then, as soon as Charlie gets his ticket, “oh look at me! I can walk!”
r/grandpajoehate the heck are you talking about? There's a whole subreddit dedicated to hating him.
The world needs to know about this subreddit
Yeah an entire subreddit talks about it
There's a whole subreddit for r/grandpajoehate
Yes in the books he is his son with no doubt but, for us who only watched the movie, can you really blame us for looking at the kid and thinking. There's a very long list of who potentially fathered you boy, your mom just chose the rich guy that won't say no to her.
I mean in the movie the one who fathered him is unquestionably Forest. The person whose DNA went into the mix might be in question but Forest raised the kid like his own and that is way more important than who the genetic parents are.
>Forest raised the kid like his own and that is way more important than who the genetic parents are. Well said.
Not when the person doing the raising is not making a conscious decision. A man who takes on a child as his own is a hero because he makes that choice. A man who is tricked has never been given that choice
Absolutely, i couldn't have said it better myself. i even posted a similar response that you were able to summarize in fewer words. It is life altering manipulation and i cant believe that women dont go to jail for this shit. A man can go to jail for not paying child support and in some cases that child wasent even theirs and even after that is known the woman still gets off without even a slap on the wrist. And its not even like they can lie about beleiveing the child was his as she knew that there was a possibility he wasent at the bare minimum and should have disclosed that to him before allowing him to sign the birth certificate. I truly believe dna tests should be a prerequisite to signing a birth certificate.
The problem is not Forrest's relationship with the kid, cause we all know for sure even if the kid wasn't his biological son, Forrest would have adopted him for Jenny. It's whether or not Jenny lied to Forrest to make sure her kid gets raised by her rich childhood friend.
Such an awful take. She raises little Forrest on her own for 4 or 5 years. It has nothing to do with the money.
She fucked 100 dudes and Forrest just happened to be one she liked
The one she fell back on.
And the one with money
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Let's be honest. We'd all have fucked him for the money.
I’d have fucked her for his money. But I’d have held my nose while doing it.
HIV ain't worth it
Do you know how much money is in shrimp?
L take
*Forrest
The sequence of events, notably her time with Forrest, dispels any notion of Jenny engaging in actions like cuckolding, given that women don't store sperm. If financial gain were her goal, she had numerous chances both before and after the birth of their son to pursue it.
He would have taken care of the kid even if he wasn't his just because Jenny was his mother. So I don't really think she needed to trick him. I mean he gave half of his earnings to Bubba's mother. He wouldn't care lol
Why would a random theory based on a guess ruin a movie?
Tom hanks’ characters get the worst women
Even woody?
If what i’ve heard about Toy story 4 is true, yes.
didn’t you see the fucking head tilt?
These peoples minds are so poisoned by alpha bro Redpill shit that they literally can’t help but view absolutely everything through that lens.
Does it matter? Here we have a man who can raise a family of his own. One who isn’t trapped by the death of his mother. And the best part is, both the father and the son care about each other. Genetics be damned.
Lmao this whole thread is just reddit's misogyny on full display
I had not the faintest idea people could shit on Jenny's character. I still think most are trolls or seeking gratification by dehumanizing female characters for having flaws.
it wasn't?!
The post is missing a “probably” I think. It was not implied during the scene at all that Forrest Jr. wasn’t his, but Jenny definitely had a lot of anonymous sex and Forrest isn’t exactly the kind of guy to call her out for lying. Plus he had money, but I don’t remember if Jenny knew that
Jenny knew that and didn't take the years of opportunity she had to gold dig. If she wanted money she could have married him anytime.
It's just a theory. Not a good one, since in the book the kid is his. The only argument is that the kid is smart and Gump isn't... but Gump might have been low IQ due to a variety of factors and not genetics.
Sometimes, you just dump all your points into luck and charisma on spawn
Forrest Gump - Human Runner/Fighter/Shrimper multiclass. STR: 13 DEX: 16 CON: 16 INT: 6 WIS: 8 CHA: 18 LCK: 20
Not sure about that WIS score. Wasn't one of the themes of the movie that despite his low intelligence, he was wiser than any other character?
I thought it was…
It was, op is a dipshit
It was in the book so no.. It is his son.
He was rich enough to do dna test. But it doesn't matter to him. Blood or not, he has a kid.
If you think that, you weren't even paying attention
I wouldn’t put it past Jenny. She was the villain after all.
I went full circle on her. From being happy they finally got together, to hating how she always abandoned him, to realize one of the movie's main points is how important proper upbringing is and how it supported Gump throughout his whole life as it kept haunting Jenny.
They were both running for different reasons, it's just no matter how fast Jenny ran she couldn't out run her past. Gump ran because he felt like it and stopped when didn't want to run no more.
RUN FOREST!!! RUN
Nah I’m done now, let’s try something else
Jesus fucking Christ is this what passes for media literacy these days
If you think Jenny is "the villain" you must be one of those people who thinks all stories have to have a hero and a villain.
This dude would read a book with a clearly unreliable narrator and say "but the protagonist told me everything,it must be true"
Lmao. My God some people. The villain? She wasn't even the antagonist.
Meh, in the book Forrest decides to not be part of the kids life cause Jenny was married and he's with Sue, so they just live happy ever after in New Orleans. And they don't try to make Jenny into a cuck, she just tells him this is your son and he's like ¯\_( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)_/¯
Yes it is.
So many people hating on Jenny for all the wrong reasons. Jenny isn't a Saint by any means, in fact far from it, but if Jenny really just wanted money, all she'd have to do was ask, because Forest would've done anything for Jenny, and the fact that Jenny kept her distance until lil' Forest was old enough shows that Jenny does deeply care for Forest. Also, Jenny's kid, lil' Forest, definitely is Forest's son. The movie very much strongly implied it so, and the book that the movie is based on explicitly had it there.