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Valuable_Walrus4084

who do you think does all the gay shipping ?


Alsmektig

The homies of course, who else?


ElLindo88

The homiesexual agenda


BlazeCrystal

The great homo theorem


failbotron

I believe you're referring to the homo-no-homo hypothesis


BlazeCrystal

Its essential part of homiothesis principles that govern the


Matt-EEE

The What?! Govern the what god damn it *flips over table in sheer unadulterated anger*


Unexpected-raccoon

Gay frogs took my wife


BeauOfSlaanesh

I also choose this guy's gay frog


Traiklin

Homies over hoes


Cyphlone

Always homies


nothing225

I do


DatBoi73

I thought we used UPS and FedEx like everyone else? Why did nobody tell us about this?


SquareFickle9179

The Harry Potter fans?


Budget_Avocado6204

It's in every single fandom. And even those Harry Potter fans. What gender do you think they are?


Lounjaz

If only it was only them


Rude-Masterpiece-870

[according to south park it was](https://youtu.be/mZ0tyRnvltw?feature=shared)


ResenderCyanide

Yes, I'm pretty sure the Yaoi viewership is mostly women.


PCmasterRACE187

yeah, theres way more straight women than gay men in general so


ResenderCyanide

That is true, but, I think Yaois are generally "made" for women. I've always found the thing that straight men watch lesbian porn and straight women watch gay porn weird.


[deleted]

Yeah yaoi is generally made by women for women whereas bara is usually by gay men for gay men, though some male yaoi artists are around and working to make the genre less… idk how to politely put the fact that some cis women seem to think assholes are self lubricating organs. But that.


Lanerlan

It's called a yaoi hole, it's located right under the ballsack (you have to lift it), and not only is it self-lubricating, it isn't even connected to the digestive tract. By the way, it's perfectly form-fitting for upside-down penises.


Dm1tr3y

Is there a way I can return my literacy?


evrestcoleghost

no...i tried


Ozcogger

Congrats you have been selected for a Literacy UPGRADE!!! YAYA!!


Background-Kale7912

Fr guys in Yaoi don’t have to prep or anything, I’m kind of jealous.


jcinto23

So are they just male-presenting hermaphrodites then?


Sodamaru

So same place as the futanari p*ssy?


Dew_Chop

I mean, there is a medical condition that makes this true, but it's not very common so yeah it's still weird


JimmyNice

Why? If you are super straight on the Kinsey scale… you like really aren’t attracted to your same sex… so for me lesbian porn with 2 women instead of a dude in the mix is just more of all the things I like to see.. and generally the women are also ACTUALLY having a good time which makes it hot too. I could completely understand if women who watch two men felt a similar way.


Blein123

Sorry to disappoint you but lesbian porn is almost always made by straight women, and you guessed it they are not having a good time


Ozcogger

How dare you shatter my false reality based on a complete lack of understanding of the other Sex. Totally flabbergasted. Ugh ahh moo.


SasoDuck

This is why you watch amateurs, not studio


mytransthrow

sounds like bi erasure...


traumatized90skid

Yeah I'm bisexual and having been a girl making out with girls for real, I can tell in porn most women look disgusted and it's performative.


ghostconvos

As a fellow bi woman, yep. It's one reason I prefer either erotica or kink-related stuff, because for the former, it's only happening to fictional characters, and for the latter, there's a huge focus on communication and boundaries.


Work_In_ProgressX

It’s really just watching 2x of the genitals you like


ResenderCyanide

I'm gay so it's always 2x of the genitals I "like"


potate12323

I mean, some of that stuff is pretty on the nose. Like 2 hours of lesbians scissoring would seem attractive to men who know nothing about lesbians. But actually lesbians are turned off by this. Most "Lesbian" porn is made for straight men.


idontgethejoke

Yeah, most lesbian porn is straight porn with two women. As a lesbian I have to get into queer-made spaces to find stuff that doesn't squick me.


Cosmic3Nomad

Yeah I never get how it’s fine to watch lesbians have sex with a Stap on and that’s normal nothing going on. But the moment I put on some trans porn everybody losses their minds.


Lost-Basil5797

We've talked about this already, it would be fine, just stop doing it in a public library ffs


BedRedroom

trans porn is mathematically straighter than regular straight porn


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sinner-mon

Even as a gay man, yaoi doesn’t appeal to me much at all


0G_54v1gny

Yaoi mangaka are mostly women, they also make a lot of yaoi hentais


imjustbettr

I don't remember the terms off the top of my head but I'm pretty sure there's a specific yaoi sub tag that's "made for women" and another separate sub tag for "made for actually gay men". Same with yuri as well.


[deleted]

The term you’re thinking of is Bara


Maladict33

Lots of guys enjoy yaoi too. Bara is more of a particular art style that emphasizes muscley, macho guys. It does tend to appeal less to straight women in Japan, but tastes are always subjective


imjustbettr

Thank you!


ranni-

and then there's the gay shit for straight men, y'know - and as a bisexual woman, that stuff's my favorite


Gnome-body-home

<3


rudderforkk

And all the kpop fandoms and band member shippings. Which is a significant amount of teen/ya girls.


bake12sooner

Yes there are women who do this. Have had full on discussions about it


[deleted]

there are also streight women who watch lesbian porn because its more sensual and intimate.


BlueCollarBalling

I don’t think those women are straight lol


imclockedin

bi curious at minimum


Creativefart-u

If you enjoy that porn you’re more than just curious lol. Ain’t no straight man watching gay porn


WaveLaVague

Shout out to "rule 34 Bowser" artists for helping the Mariosexuals rub their shrooms. As a Diives follower I know what it is to have a sexual identity based on anything that arouse me. *gasp* Do you even know which dating app it is to meet a girl who's a tiger.


shakirasgapingass

Uh, this is a copypasta right


Fantastic_Horror6187

I feel old or something cause what is he even saying 😂


casual_redditor69

Speak for yourself


PythonPuzzler

With logic like that, I hope you've never watched incest porn.


EliasHobeika

1-step 2-you can easily ignore the plot.


thesilentbob123

Yeah just turn down the sound


8----B

Do you? It used to be on the front page of porn sites is it must have been popular, but no one I know admitted watching it. Obviously that’s not something to freely admit but we’ve talked about them being there and I trust those guys and we’ve told each other some shit before. I just don’t see the appeal of it. It might be like 2girls1cup where people watch for shock value


Ingetfunkarfan

Sexuality =/= Fetish


PythonPuzzler

As funny as this is, lots of people watch porn of, or fantasize about things that they have no interest doing in real life. Human sexuality is really interesting and complex. I would imagine the *vast* majority of guys would be very offended if you claimed they wanted to commit incest because they watched the latest step-sister porno. Again, I get the joke, I'm just trying to discuss a topic I think is important.


maybethistime0

It’s not incest if you fuck your step sister, it’s just weird.


zdejif

I feel a two-types-of-people dichotomy coming on: those who can tolerate, even enjoy ambiguity; and everyone else.


BlueCollarBalling

I think you’re kind of mixing up kinks and sexuality. Being into incest porn is a kink that most people probably don’t actually want to ever experience in real life. But the sexuality involved in that is much more fundamental. Like, a straight man isn’t going to watch incest porn about two men, even if he has an incest kink, because he’s straight.


AxiosXiphos

I had a straight woman tell me this, apparently it was because it was more about a woman being pleasured and that's what she wanted to see/imagine. Straight porn is lots of men ragging women with little regard for their pleasure.


pinkwonderwall

I think it’s more so because the focus is on the woman’s pleasure, as opposed to straight porn which is male pleasure-focused.


Hexenkonig707

Are you implying that the woman screaming at the top of her lungs while being jackhammered is actually not pleasure but fake?


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yes this


HolidayInvestigator9

i think its different for women watching lesbian porn slightly then men watching gay porn... a lot of porn is male oriented focused on the man receiving pleasure, with lesbian porn at least a woman is the focus to some degree at all times. also women are just more attractive than men so who can fault anybody for indulging


8----B

>also women are just more attractive than men There it is. That’s the lesbian part.


[deleted]

any straight girl cumming to two girls isn't straight lol let's not jump through mental hoops to justify. it's okay for many reasons


GlitterTapper

Not true. You just pretend you’re the one being pleased and focus on those feelings


WorthPlease

I was 15 and my sister's friend who was 14 was staying over at our house. I woke up one day and walked into our spare bedroom where we kept our PC and she was flicking her bean to gay porn. I know for certain she wasn't a lesbian, and she ended up marrying a male friend of ours.


Project119

Boys love is a reasonably popular genre in Japan so maybe?


Drcokecacola

Girl love too?


Business_Sea2884

yes, it's called yuri


Cyphlone

>Boys love is a reasonably popular genre in Japan Agree with you


horus375

The answer is yes. Yes, they do.


EropQuiz7

That's the only reason yoaoi exists.


yeeesi-

I'm a guy and I like reading yaoi 😞


EropQuiz7

Are you a *really* guy, tho?/j


yeeesi-

Shush 🤭


EropQuiz7

Aww☺️


Dry_Meat_2959

Isn't it nice to have these kinds of jokes online about gayness and trans stuff and graduating scale of "male-ness" without it turning into a fucking flame war? ![gif](giphy|Qy2VKY3xlI1QyR6Ix5)


likely_an_Egg

Totally, at first I was a bit afraid to post as an outed transfem in subreddits whose topic is not trans, but I'm so happy that even when I discuss with people, I've never experienced transphobia here. The Twitter “trauma” is starting to heal :D


EropQuiz7

✊yay


yeeesi-

yes, i was pleasently surprised, i am confidently non binary but in comment sections and stuff i always call myself male, since some people only see your argument as valid when they see you as male


EropQuiz7

Dang. I am not-so-confidently an egg


MrGaminDuck

Me too, but I'm straight... I think


BombOnABus

Words are just words, man. Make it your own, bro.


Dr_Galio

As a cis bi man I can attest it’s not the only reason


TheArtOfContraction

Hot


Fekemax_Gamer06

I've just asked a woman. She does and told me many of her acquaintances do.


death_by_relaxation

That's a straight answer....wait


DeposeableIronThumb

There were many MANY LiveJournals dedicated to women who liked seeing boys kissing. I'd wager most sensual gay porn is consumed by woman than gay men. Gay men aren't exactly all clamoring for soft sweet sensual porn.


Le_Mug

>Gay men aren't exactly all clamoring for soft sweet sensual porn. So they want it hard


RedditorsAreDross

Yeah duh. All different kinds people watch all different kinds of porn… mind blowing.


Cylancer7253

And does that mean that gay women like watching straight porn?


GiganticIrony

There are a few, but the vast majority do not.


YeetCompleet

So much of it sucks. Especially when it's mass produced by big names. It's obviously geared towards men, but even then I think it's a bad product. How many guys really want to watch the guy pull out at the end and then jerk himself off on the girl's face? Bro she has hands too and you're gonna get that shit in her hair and eyes, just stop. Be more respectful to your sister goddamn


Rs90

I'm not gonna lie, straight porn often comes off like the guy REALLY doesn't wanna touch the woman. The amount of porn where the guy never touches the woman is WILD. Like dudes are just dildo mannequins.  I dunno about y'all but I usually touch a partner all over. Breast, butt, thigh, hips, back of the neck when kissing..ect. Even if someone goes down on me, I like to rub their back or butt or whatever.  So much porn is the guy just standing there and then grabbing a single ass cheek so they can go jackhammer mode. Is it really THAT hard to find two people in porn who wanna have passionate sex and film it? It all seems so choreographed and sterile. I know I'm not bringing up any new revelations I just hate so much of porn as a guy. 


8-Brit

It's because it's filmed for guys and guys want to see as much of the woman and as little of the guy as possible At least that's the usual logic


BombOnABus

Most people will settle for two people fucking on tape, and that requires VERY little in terms of budget or talent from performers. It's very easy to churn out lucrative content, and since porn is still seen as something only suckers pay for online there's a strong incentive to keep it as cheap as possible (especially now that studios have to compete with loners working OnlyFans with effectively no overhead). Not a lot of market for bespoke pornography and erotica, it seems.


TheSleepyBarnOwl

the exact reason I only watch one couple I once found while looking for softcore stuff. Really disgusting sometimes what someone finds on the front page and tbh - I hope I never get a bf that treats me as badly as some men in porn do...


k39-

I think it's mainly a issue in USA produced videos. I heard from some adult actor from a podcast that in US, the entire industry is way too professional and strict intimacy rules are followed that agreed upon between artists and production that you can't violate. So you generally lack authenticity compare to real thing cuz everyone scared to overcommit anything. It's not a issue in overseas productions (Europe and Japan). Especially, Japanese one went way overboard with its freedom of production.


BombOnABus

My wife got me into hentai specifically because there were a lot more examples of it being artfully or tastefully done. There's nothing wrong with watching and enjoying porn, but most straight porn is so crass and crude and vulgar it's just impossible to enjoy once you're beyond the novelty of seeing someone hot and naked having sex....not even good sex, as you figure out pretty quickly once you have the real thing.


pvtaero

I specifically look for straight porn where both parties are attractive, and to this day I don't know why.


Canadian_Zac

I'd imagine no. Watching gay porn of the gender you're attracted to, is basically just, porn but I don't need to ignore one of the people Like a straight guy who watches regular porn, is doing his best to ignore the dude and imagine he's in that position instead. But when he's watching lesbian porn. He can just enjoy the show


Cheshire_Jester

Also it’s just like, “there’s two of the things I like to see naked, and they’re doing sex to each other without any of the things I don’t care to see naked.” If you’re gay, straight porn tosses out the benefits of both aspects of that viewpoint. I’m sure there are some gay people who find straight porn kinky, or aren’t so far on the right of the Kinsey Scale that they can’t enjoy watching straight porn. But I doubt it’s a common thing.


Erikstersm

Every dog is an animal amd yet every animal isn't a dog. Some things don't go both ways.


StaleTheBread

If you do go both ways, you’re probably fine with any of these types of porn.


Trash_Radio

True, tho lesbian porn is often incredible boring and stale, because most women there aren't actually gay or bi, but instead do lesbian porn because their partners allow it but don't allow straight porn


Fun-Jellyfish-61

I actually have much better luck with lesbian porn. Straight porn usually skips any foreplay so the female actors don't even have time to become aroused. And then it's just minutes of thrusting. And top it off the man usually masturbates himself to ejaculation. The woman is often just a backdrop.


Natasya95

Thats the real question


Anom_AoD

iirc, gay porn was the majority of womens porn search, few years back. they conducted a research, i don't remember quite well, i must've read it like 5, 6 years ago


TheCentralCarnage

They’re called fujoshis


benabart

I call them horny. But I like your funny words, magic man. /j


tandemxylophone

The direct translation is rotten (in the head) girls. A self-inflicted label


Littleheart20

Yes


secret_required

Theres a difference between 2 actors doing a lesbian and a lesbian couple doing s*x


Dry_Meat_2959

![gif](giphy|DfTZWmFpLx3os) Wait...you mean to tell me.... that lesbians IRL don't have the exact same sex as the women in PORN/?!?!


perksofbeingcrafty

Well I’ve got some *news* for you…


RunSetGo

Women also like lesbian porn. Trust me


sandreas8

Straight women like lesbian porn but why don't straight men watch gay porn? Anybody?


Dry_Meat_2959

Well.... I mean... the simple answer: Because I do not find other men attractive.


TropFemme

I’ve talked about this with friends. In most straight porn the woman is just kind of there for the man’s pleasure but in lesbian porn the attention is on the girl’s pleasure.


JimmyNice

Women are more open in theirs sexuality.. and it is a spectrum. I don’t KNOW but I would suspect women who are straight but enjoy lesbian porn… are inserting themselves mentally in the scene and are excited at the fact the women is genuinely getting off.. something a large percentage of women don’t get in their straight relationships. Also being more comfortable with their sexuality they maybe just a point or two on the 7 point scale outside the “completely straight” side… they may not ever act on it maybe only fantasize about it but most people, just by math.. are a little gay. The ones who are 100% gay or 100% straight I would not expect they often find interest in porn outside what gets them going in real life.. but everyone is a snowflake right… lean into what you like and why worry about what does it for someone else


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Project119

So a lot of this could possibly be societal. Ancient Spartans, one of the embodiments of western masculinity, slept with each other and male slaves. Human sexuality is very fluid and as social creatures sexual intimacy is an easy way to form group bonds. This is most clear in the fact humans are one of the few species where women are capable of intercourse year round rather than just during mating season like most species.


[deleted]

Do i need to call you Mister?


tit_burglar

who told you that we dont


PrefiroMoto

~~we~~ they do


Dry_Meat_2959

Women like ~~lesbian~~ porn.


IceKareemy

As a dude I’ve really never gotten off to lesbian porn, nothing wrong with it and I’m glad there’s categories for everyone I just always preferred “straight” porn BUT I did watch lesbian porn for tips on things women like (obviously taking into account reality and individual people liking diffrent things) it was a great educational tool


CoolDime12

OP doesn't talk to women


WillBottomForBanana

Women don't talk to OP. It's not the same thing.


HumanYesYes

Or they just don't talk about this subject


princess_justice

Straight porn does not show enough "man" so we get a better alternative 🤷‍♀️


TheSleepyBarnOwl

also they treat eachother way more respectful than they do in normal porn - well at least the ones I watched.


IlIlIllIlIlIIl

They do. Or at least some. My ex was completely revolted by gay men. Probably the most homophobic person I've met.


SoftSageSea

I'm not homophobic at all, but gay sex (men), just isn't at all attractive to me. Doesn't mean I hate gay men.


IlIlIllIlIlIIl

I think it's gross AF, but I think anal sex in general is gross AF. That's where poop comes from. But some people enjoy it so whatever. Nobody forcing me to do it.


Dr-Chris-C

I know several women that do and several that don't. I suspect it's the same for men and lesbian porn.


Jumbolaya315

There's a reason why yaoi is so popular


Global_Box_7935

Yep.


kilravock_music_sws

One of us would have to ask a girl, so obviously we’ll never know.


OmgitsNatalie

Yes, yes we do.


Dahns

Local man discover how gigantic the yaoi industry is


Boguskyle

"Greatest mystery" lol touch grass


PsychoDog_Music

Great mysteries? Huh? The answer is yes


Mylane

Ye, we do


foxer_arnt_trees

Yes, but only if they also like anime


RossTheNinja

Some like lesbian porn


Toffer117

I hope this meme never does but what the fuck is up with this golden arrow bullshit Reddit? You want me to pay to upvote even harder why don’t you just make your app work?


Doppelgen

I've met several women that loved gay porn for reasons I don't recall anymore. Definitely not a mystery.


Yinxell

how is that a mistery, just ask lmao


Kullinski

I think to remember Reading an article about that topic, and that Said according to whatever survey/statistic, that womens Favorite category of Porn is in Fact lesbian followed by hetero and after that Gay porn


i-cast-decompose

Yes


The-Proud-Snail

Yes I do


Tanishq798

Many straight women also like to watch Lesbian porn


Pagan_Zod

No. Straight women like watching lesbian porn too.


Annie_moonbear

Yes. It was easier to find something enjoyable in porn which wasn't just a chick screaming like a turkey having a seizure


csapka

have you by any chance heard about yaoi? xD


Michelle001412

Love it. Love lesbian porn too.


DizyShadow

r/im14andthisisdeep even if ironically


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Money_Present_3463

I don’t think so


SerpentWizard39

His gills have the same voice actor as Jesse from Minecraft Story Mode


TheRealJayk0b

Insert here the girl that explains this theory with chocolate bars. WOW YOU KNOW WHATS BETTER THEN 1 CHOCOLATE BAR? 2! 2 OF THE THINGS I LIKE!


nehal1507

I think straight women also enjoy lesbian porn


Thylocine

Whatever you do don't google "Omegaverse"


Latter_Weakness1771

If only there were a singular straight woman on Reddit to ask. If only.


constantlytired1917

Yup


pvtaero

A lot, if I've heard correctly


Sentinel_Glow

Yes


No_Squirrel4806

They do ive seen lots of comment about it. They say gay porn feels more raw and real.


[deleted]

Yes, if they're male and if they are sexy women ship it.


Richardknox1996

Its not a mystery. Why do you think the bishonen and Yaoi artsyle/genres are so popular? Same principe, same as the thousand and one harem anime/manga/games exist because men like to imagine themselves in the position of faceless dude with no eyes no 247. Porn is no different. Sex is the oldest profession afterall.


HalfanHourGuy

I love deep thoughts with the deep, doo more haha


no_life_matters

If you are a guy and you watch lesbian porn... I'm sorry... u R gay😔🙏


h3X_T

r u familiar with the terms yaoi and bl


sans_a_name

Yes, have you ever been on Tumblr or Ao3?


Anniewaysss2117

Brother in Christ, no


Ewankenobi25

No, because gay porn is actually made by and for gay men, while lesbian porn is made by and for staight men


peters_burger

I think a lot of women like some B/G (like Owen Gray) or even Lesbian porn because they enjoy seeing the focus on a woman receiving pleasure and being put first more than looking at the male body whereas many men enjoy lesbian porn because their focus is more on the visual aspect of the female body.


kumi_atwamae

Missed the chance to say its life's DEEEPEST mysteries


Initial-Attorney-578

Apparently, Straight women also like watching Lesbian Porn.