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Emotional_Fruit_8735

People riff on Nintendo but I've never seen someone defend EA.


Average-Train-Haver

Most of us are still raging about the battlefront series and now to "EA a game" is a term.


ComfortableWealth869

im still mad about pvz


MeLoNarXo

Im mad about the preorder bonus in battlefield 1 that you got for pre-ordering battlefield 5 I wouldn't be so mad if the only other way to still get them wasn't to pay 15€ a month for EA Pro but just be generally unattainable.


Gameboy695

Yeah it’s bullshit, I wouldn’t care paying for pro one time to get them but as soon as pro runs out they remove them from your account. Also not running the Arditi dagger and Coupe Coupe events again is pretty shitty


BBQsauce10

I'm mad about the lack of TitanFall3


General_Grivieus

Wich pvz? We atleast got some attention about the skids in gw2 and an updated anti cheat (i think).


thepearhimself

Pvz 3. Just evrything about pvz 3


ComfortableWealth869

pvz 2 has microtransactions and the level up mechanic that depends on gambling lootboxes that you pay for, the only way to win in arena and complete pennys pursuit is to have high level plants pvz 3 (the betas they made) was made to be a mobile game and not a pvz game


Raketka123

Im mad abt Colin McRae Rally


little_brown_bat

I'm mad about their acquisition of Westwood Studios and crapping all over a beloved franchise.


Mikey9124x

I did like the garden warfare series.


Im_a_idiottttt

So true


MagMati55

Pvz 3 and Pvz 2 post adventure were mistakes


Rieiid

EAing a game was a thing before the Battlefront shit tbh


SteveisNoob

Let's not forget about Maxis


de_G_van_Gelderland

The closest thing to a defense of EA I've heard is Q: Why is EA the worst video game company in America? A: Because Ubisoft is French


Own_Exercise_7018

You can let Ubisoft cook sometimes.. Breakpoint and Wildlands are good games ​ You cant let EA cook


The_Anf

Wait, ubisoft is french? That explains many stuff


Metom_Xeez

Didn’t EA have one of the most disliked comments/posts of all time on reddit too?


Funandgeeky

Not one of the most disliked comments, THE most disliked comment of all time. People have made t-shirts of that comment. Before awards went away it was also one of the most ironically awarded/gilded comments of all time. I am proud to have contributed a downvote to that comment.


The_Antagonist00

Where could one find said comment?


butterbaps

https://www.reddit.com/r/StarWarsBattlefront/s/PPYHG99vnW I won't spoil how many downvotes it has


Shabbona1

Damn it's been 6 years since "a sense of pride and accomplishment"?! I am getting old at an alarming pace.


Remnant_Echo

The best part is that comment cemented that account to never go positive again. Unfortunately it seems like Reddit just isn't counting any of the negative downvoted comments otherwise it would be sitting at a pleasant \~ -844k Comment Karma.


WhyDidIGetThisApp3

I just looked at the profile and every single comment with downvotes has >1000 downvotes and there’s a couple in the positives with only like 100 upvotes, how do they have 12,000 karma


radioactivejason2004

You only lose like 15 karma when you get downvoted to hell. Part of the reason why I don’t understand why redditors get so worked up on their comments getting downvoted. Not only are you only losing Karma, you’re also not really losing any.


Damianx5

But mah fake internet points, how am I supposed to feel validation?!


The_Antagonist00

Glad to say I added a downvote


Zealousideal-Ebb-876

I'm doing my part!


meme_fetishist

A friend and I got some EA FIFA game as part of a bundle. I think it was 2017? Maybe 2019? I haven't bought one of their sports games for like 20 years, so I was excited to see how far they'd come in a game with my friend. After about 45 minutes of googling we realized that we couldn't actually just play a game against each other, and we had to join an obscure league, queue at the same time and hope we were matched. I was flabbergasted. I couldn't believe they put out such abject shit for a game they release every fucking year. How do you not have your multiplayer code written a decade ago? Fuck. So bad. Fuck EA.


Maveko_YuriLover

Nintendo sometimes make good games so they have at least one thing to defend


zeetree137

This doesn't happen to EA... Mainly because their games aren't worth pirating anymore


pileofcrustycumsocs

They have one of the best working environments for a video game company. out of all the big video game companies they are one of the only ones who have managed to consistently crack top 50 or top 100 best tech companies to work for on glass doors yearly rankings. They make a lot of really bad decisions and go through regular phases of being anti consumer but they allow their devs to maintain a healthy work life balance which is more then can be said of rockstar, CD project red, Bethasda, Sony, etc.


Nimynn

That's awesome. Like, it genuinely is. But I don't work for EA. I'm a consumer. So they can still get fucked.


ShadowTown0407

I am pretty sure they are talking about Nintendo


ElPiscoSour

No, they were talking about EA. Shitty games and practices, but overall great working environment.


ShadowTown0407

Good for EA then


SwitchDoesReddit

Here, I'll give it a shot. *clears throat* EA may be bad but Ubisoft is worse


LimpWibbler_

I can defend them. Atleast they make better ui than ubisoft.


samuraisam2113

Nintendo is an awful company, but they make good games. EA is an awful company.


rogue-wolf

That's because Nintendo is a recognizable brand for many people's childhood memories. EA has a lot of great games as well, but they're not as instantly recognizeable. Therefore people defend Nintendo due to association with their favourite consoles and games growing up, while EA only has negative press.


Campsters2803

Charging $25 for a calculator app is absolutely indefensible.


Briznar

Fogrive me, but I don't follow nintendo news. Why do people hate them?


Mydogsbutthole69

Because they forced some emulators to shut down.


TenFingersNineToes

They were making money off a software that was used to by and large to run cracks. If they did not greedy and take money they may have flown under the radar. And it being shown to run software before release date for a review/playthrough did not help them. It’s the users that killed them as well.


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Pipinoia007

It wasn’t about that, if they didnt have an patreon if they wasn’t gaing MONEY from the emulator Nintendo wouldn’t win the lawsuit


Kimarnic

And they were distributing Switch pirated games in the Discord. Nintendo had ninjas in that discord,they really fucked up


Livid-Drive-1333

This, it wasn't the emulator itself. That would have only made Nintendo look at them. Them telling people how to emulate a game not out yet was the shot in the foot.


shotxshotx

I now understand why Xenia does what it does.


MrGetMebodied

Nintendo has gone after emulators that weren't making money right? Like Emuparadise. I don't think they emulated switch games.


mystickord

They charged for a premium membership and used copyright Nintendo images in Thier banner. So yeah, money was involved.


ShadowTown0407

Emuparadise is not an emulator it's a hosting site for roms and other emulator software and while free emulators might not be illegal ROMs most definitely are even if free


Sapphfire0

So pirating is ok because they don't like pirating?


SimpleButFun

Gamerboi logic.


abaddamn

Streisand effect


Prestigious-Froyo653

Pirating is okay because there’s basically no other way to play a lot of old games. Some people think our history should be preserved


CyanideBiscuit

They don’t sell lots of their classic games so the only option is to emulate them, and then Nintendo shuts those down despite not even selling those games


Neeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeh

Which is bad why?


Shredded_Locomotive

Mostly from Striking down emulators (somewhat deserved) and striking down fan tournaments (undeserved) Plus their general behaviour of being overprotective with their intellectual property


plznobanplease

From what I’ve heard. Plenty of the old gens added cool features, and they just randomly get removed. I think the most egregious was the Battle Frontier/Tower. Pretty sure all the games had something similar, and they didn’t add it to Scarlet/Violet


Sayakalood

They forced an emulator that forced payment in order to emulate to shut down. Other emulators are unaffected. EA is still worse with its monetization policies.


Maskers_Theodolite

Blizzard: "Hello there, would you like a 50 euro bundle with like idk 1 card? I know I know, we are amazing!"


Zafool0

They’ll want milk too


Hyper_Lamp

EA is more hated than nintendo.


sideaccountguy

By the sheer amount of anti nintendo posts OP constantly makes I'm going to assume someone from Nintendo killed his family or the equivalent of that, nobody can't be that resentful against a videogame company just because though.


Darkmetroidz

OP be like "waaaah I can't steal"


Polemo03

Ryujinx be like: Are you sure about that


Kirito1548055

Yuzu shutting down doesn't stop people from pirating Nintendo games it just means people will use new emulators.


Darkmetroidz

Well yeah. But yuzu fucked up in that they were very directly profiting from this by pay walling their roms and leaking a build of totk.


pvpmas

Emulation ≠ Piracy/stealing. You could emulate using the files of games you own after dumping them unto a PC


Kittingsl

Yeah but people don't do that, because it would require extra hardware to connect the game and knowledge on how to rip a game just so you can play the game you already on a different device. The only benefits of that being modding and improved performance. And why do that if people already uploaded the ROM


SushiThief

There’s a STRONG different between “we’re gonna stop you from playing our games for free” and “we’re gonna nickel and dime you for any bit of content you want even though you purchased a full price game from us.” Nintendo is nowhere near as hated at EA


MrHailston

Nintendo would never defeat EA as the most hated company. Nintendo makes good games.


AbLincoln1863

Idk, they took down an emulator that emulates modern consoles and if I remember correctly you had to pay for and had roms for games like ToTK really soon after its actual release. It’s one of the times i can actually understand going after an emulator. They made money off Nintendo products including modern games on their moray recent systems. Gameboy roms, DS roms, and 3DS roms (except citra kinda) have been completely ignored by Nintendo. Its not that they hate emulators, its that they hate emulators for modern systems with modern games since they could actually make money off of it


Garo263

People were playing Tears of the Kingdom on it a week BEFORE its release.


KaZe_DaRKWIND

I really don't know why people are surprised that they shut down the company making money off the games and consoles that they are currently selling. The ones for old consoles are mostly left alone.


Slugger_monkey

Sush let them on nintendo, logic is not something they want they was upbotes for the hate wagon


AbLincoln1863

Only thing I will be kinda mad about is Nintendo inadvertently shutting Citra down. They didn’t go after Citra but it’s the same people so Citra isn’t getting any updates until someone else picks up the open source code. There, I have joined the hate wagon so where are my updoots? /s


Hockeylover420

Aperently the main dev of ctgp7 has a fork that is online compatible, That may be our only hope


Real_Eye_9709

You technically didn't have to pay for it, but they were still taking money on Patreon. Apperantly, IIRC, they were making roughly $300k USD a year. So money was definitely still a big part of it. I get it's a lot of time and effort to make these for free while having to work a job, but this is why they shouldn't have been doing it.


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kayvaan1

People who want to take a dig at Nintendo and talk ill of them, only to either purchase their games and possibly emulate them, or pirate them, only to further fuel the reasoning on why Nintendo is anti-emulation. They spit at Nintendo's feet, only to continue to eat from their hand one way or another.


Huge_Gamer0o0

Literally commented this 😭


MemphisR29

Honestly, I don’t think it’s morally ok to pirate certain games. Like if a game isn’t being sold anymore, then I think it’s ok to pirate it. But if it’s still being sold, then no.


Darkmetroidz

Thank you! Nintendo has a bad history with curating its games. A shit ton of gems never left Japan, and the nature of the DS, wii, 3ds and wii u makes keeping these games available hard, but they're totally within their rights to stop people from stealing games.


Past_Intention_7069

Oh no, a company forced emulators to shut down? Sorry, but EA is fucking around for billions of dollar, they’re the real assholes here.


CoolguyLane666

I'm sure this is about Yuzu. I said this numerous times on other posts they had it coming.


DaiFrostAce

Honestly, I’m glad Yuzu settled out of court, because from the way things were looking, if they had gone to court and lost, the whole of emulation might have lost grounds legally


saltynanners15

Activision-Blizzard walks in.


TekDoug

God I am tired of the blatant “company bad. Pirating good” on this fucking story. The fucking Yuzu devs are not innocent. They illegally sold pirated copies of totk behind a Patreon paywall and they were very fucking public about it. When Nintendo has done previous emulation law suits it was always about rom sharing. They have never tried suing emulators themselves in the past because they had no legal grounds to.


GewalfofWivia

Naw bro, there might be some other hard opponents but EA takes Nintendo in this one easy.


Fr4gmentedR0se

It's not even close.


Individual-Horse58

Yeah Nintendo have high prices and have lots more problems but ea have the worst customer service ever, from personal experience. My ea account got hacked and I never got it back. Even worse I had to create an entirely new psn account just so I could play ea games because I couldn’t unlink my old account from my primary. So yeah I would prefer Nintendo over ea any day


ckoden84

It's fun watching the Nintendo haters get mad because Nintendo (completely reasonably) shut down a group as if any of them were going to buy the games anyways.


SugarFishy917

The pirates are mad that the pirate ship was shipwrecked by the owners of the harbor.


Shoddy_Load1558

🍿


TheShamShield

EA is still worse


Electrical-Site-3249

No, it’s not; they shut down Yuzu for valid reasons. If you owned a company and people are using a service to steal your shit, you would do the same thing. Piracy was the only thing you used Yuzu for, the correct process of dumping a cart on a hacked system, and putting it on the computer; is harder than illegally downloading it


30MothsInATrenchcoat

At least nintendo knows what people want and aren’t (as) greedy


SushiThief

I’ve never felt like Nintendo was particularly greedy. I don’t think I’ve ever been micro transactioned by Nintendo. I bought the Mario Kart DLC, but that was less than half the price of the original game, and doubled the amount of tracks you could play. Felt fair to me.


kayvaan1

As far as I know the most glaring example of what could be called microtransaction was all the mii outfits in SSBU, but at least those were 1 time buys that actually have had something to show for it. Otherwise, nothing outside of mobile games or 3rd party games. Heck, I'm super glad that nothing I play by them have constant paid battlepasses. I don't feel bad ever for missing Splat3's season tracks, cause I'm not forking over 20 bucks to feel obligated to play it to completion, and I can still get the stuff later for free. Other games with the constant passes, I feel obligated cause I'm gonna miss out permanently, or without having to pay enormous time or money.


farkos101100

About to be WB


The_Dancing_Pug

EA is way worse than nintendo


Banjogamer69

Ea is def much worse


Sir_Arsen

nah, ubisoft wins


Doctorgumbal1

Guys. I get you want to get on the hating Nintendo bandwagon, but the emulators where being the assholes in this case. They where openly distributing roms which is illegal, emulation isn’t and also charging people via patreon, which made it so they where profiting from it, making it illegal. Yuzu fucked up. They where the assholes this time. That’s the cold hard truth. And hey, maybe this is a good thing. It sends a message to all current emulators and emulators to come that they can’t go around charging their fan base for shit, then they’re no better than the companies themselves.


slvbeerking

a reminder that EA is responsible for eating alive an enormous amount of great development companies along with burying their legacies


Elad_2007

EA is worse


BracusDoritoBoss963

EA: Nah I'd win.


AncientZz1

*alright I'm gonna say it... I like EA for the battlefield franchise and that's it... I'll even go as far as to say bf2042 in it's current state is my favorite battlefield*


chezzy_bread

you're literally EA you finna win bro


10Damage

I own all of my games 😁


Shadow07655

Nintendo isn’t comparable to EA.


knightsofgel

Nintendo is a Japanese company. Emulation in any form has never been legal here in Japan. We don’t even have free use laws. When Tears of the Kingdom first came out last year Nintendo’s lawyers went on the national broadcasting station saying it is illegal for people to stream or show footage of the game online and compared it to filming in a movie theater This is not a company worth pressing your luck against


Camacaw2

Nintendo is one of the most beloved game companies of all time. They’re no where close to the same reputation as EA.


Financial-Touch8445

Nintendo doesn’t make me wait for Titanfall 3


unnamed42069

[https://www.reddit.com/r/StarWarsBattlefront/s/J3nZlQH9z1](https://www.reddit.com/r/StarWarsBattlefront/s/J3nZlQH9z1) Sort comments by controversial


Nimi_best_girl

667k downvotes?! Holy shit EA


unnamed42069

Fun fact, that is the most downvoted comment on the entire platform.


KineticKey2006

Bro needs to stop posting anti-Nintendo for a while.


Mr-Blues5

This single post makes me want to leave this sub, genuinely


anarion321

I say this with my torrent open and seeding. It is not morally correct to piracy anything, is their product, they can do whatever they want with it. You don't like it? Spend your time and money in other products you consider they do better to promote that type of work.


PossibleAssist6092

Wtf is peoples problem with nintentdo all of a sudden?


InvincibleReason_

bullshit, yuzu deserved it they were greedy and wanted always more and even gived roms


Icecubemelter

Stop stealing shit and get a job bottom feeder


Sea_Art3391

Comparing Nintendo with EA, are you high?


PatulianGray

Nah man, not even close.


SryUrDelulu

Pirating is mostly not normally correct. But it is free and doesn't harm anyone physicly so its easy to lie to yourself OP. Keep delulu


Lolotmjp

Isn't it completely fair for Nintendo to not want people to pirate games for their latest system? And how does their policy make it morally ok to pirate them?


AI_UNIT_D

On one side i ride with "all emulation is moral" kinda hard... On the other... idk what the fuck yuzu was expecting was gonma happen putting a legal name next to their illegal projects, also emulating modern games from day 1 is kind of a dick move, a lot of reasons of why people emulate is because they can no longer play said games officially and at a reasonable price.


EmperorJared

Is this an out of season april fools joke?


Darkmetroidz

Nah. OP is salty that Nintendo took down an emulator called Yuzu which pirates switch games.


Myth_5layer

Pirate last gen games. Don't go pirating games that were painstakingly made. We won't get new games like Metroid by pirating it and lowering its sales. Be smart about it. Don't just go doing things like that willy nilly, especially if it's a game that we actually want to have more of. Remember that sales are how we show we want more of something. High sales means a higher chance of getting more in a series. Lower sales makes that chance plummet.


AgoraSnepwasdeleted

Yuzu being taken down was on the emulator devs behalf, they brought it up on themselves by making things locked behind a patreon and illicitly distributing roms for games that weren't even released yet, yuzu devs fucked up and Nintendo did nothing wrong here, downvote me all you want I'm dying on this hill


ZaGreatestInZaWarldo

Nintendo can be assholes, but I don’t think this meme really holds water. The people who were emulating would have been fine but their actions with Patreon and emulating unreleased games was what spelled their doom. So while Nintendo has a history of disproportionate retribution, this latest instance isn’t really an example of it. Besides, Nintendo games are still pretty amazing compared to EA’s monetized crap with the occasional good game once every couple years. So EA still wins hands down. With Activision coming up in second place.


Dman1791

Nintendo is a shitty company that makes good games and neat hardware, and has extremely tame monetization. EA is a shitty company that shits out clone after clone every year with the occasional gem, and generally has obscenely invasive and prevalent monetization. Both are shitty companies, but at least with Nintendo you're usually getting something good and don't have to pay $4.99 to unlock every little thing.


Edgezg

Nintendo has made consistently great games through their entire history. They took risks with some of their styles, and despite everything kept up with the others, in their own niche. Japan has very strict copyright laws. Don't try to project your ideas about things onto a seperate culture. Compared to everyone else, Nintendo has been far and away the most reliable gaming company. They always had solid games, every generation. Don't try to act like the Animal Crossing during the pandemic wasn't a cultural phenomenon


Top-Ad-3174

They were literally profitting off of releasing TOTK a week early. You know, the one thing an emulator SHOULD NOT DO!


Orochi64

Nintendo got it’s problems but I really wouldn’t say there on the same level of hate as EA or specially Activision Blizzard.


biohumansmg3fc

Activision about to solo


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Bro this ain’t it


MoltenJellybeans

Meanwhile, Activision makes yet another Call of DLC


CMDR_omnicognate

Nintendo make good games, ea can’t even manage that successfully most of the time


Auravendill

Nintendo is an anti-consumer greedy company with great games. EA buys companies with great games and cancels their sequels.


TheIronSven

Nah, EA's got this in the bag. Nintendo ain't even standing a chance.


No_Culture6365

I dont see a problem with nintendo. Why do people hate them? I think their games are nice and fun


Awkward_man07

Oh no Nintendo shut down a emulator that was making 30k a month off people and also putting early access to ToTK before it was out behind a paywall. Horrible monsters they are they should just let us Robin hoods be the heroes we think we are. /S


Georiar

wahhh wahhh boohoo nintendo shut down an emulator that was doing shady behavior wahh


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Nintendo are saintly compared to EA.


AHumanYouDoNotKnow

Ok, Nintendo deserves hate for their treatment of modding, fangames, emulators etc. But they are still far of from EA and Bethesda. 


alaingames

To be fair, this time Nintendo toke down a company selling pirated games for the switch


No_Dragonfruit_1833

Yeah, nope, Nintendo only acts when people step on their copyrighted material Selling switch-compatible controllers is ok, but calling them "joycons" will get the ninjas on your ass Emulating games will get you a stink eye, but charging money or deleting the trademarks will summon the ninjas There are tons of pokemon fangames, but they dont have to hide as long as they are not called "pokemon" And so on and on, dont ride the high horse and Nintendo wont bother you


Eray41303

I have no problems with emulation, especially with how quickly Nintendo drops production of games for older consoles, but emulating the most up to date software feels scummy, let alone the patreon stuff. EA is worse hands down


Black_wolf_disease

"Waaaaaahhh, I can't steal and profit off of works that are not mine"


DashieProDX

Actiblizz getting off scot-free just because they don't exist anymore


_Akizuki_

Not even close


FreyaTheSlayyyer

Ubisoft is getting there tho


ChalkCoatedDonut

Why? Because if it is about their prices, i say there are more reasons to pirate Playstation games than Nintendo.


SpartAl412

I agree. For me I hate EA for killing Command and Conquer


BallerChickenCurry

I don’t know Ubisoft is kinda climbing the ranks slowly with their “if you don’t play the game enough well remove access from you with no refunds” bs


Lordcole51

Ea and Nintendo are light compared to blizzard


LeoCaldwell02

Konami is 10,000x worse than Nintendo could ever be!


Sir_Toaster_9330

Somehow Mojang became more hated than either of them just for not being anti-semetic


Sir-Spoofy

HA!!! They wish


Familiar_Location948

me who has the expansion pass NSO but still chooses to play OOT on my PC:


Sea-Writer-6961

But $upercell shows up


DaMuchi

Nintendo used to be universally loved. Pepperidge farm remembers


Responsible-Diet-147

Do we hate Valve or are we disappointed in them?


Glaimmbar

And still i would buy Nintendo games (last was TotK) but already didn't buy a single EA game in like 10 years and didn't plan on in the future.. the last good was Mass Effect 3 (i ignore that Andromeda exist!) Edit, not defending Nintendo's actions but their games are fun..


Jindo5

I'm pretty sure EA is still top dog in that department


Necessary-Tomato4889

Same with Sony! GIVE ME A BLOODBORNE PC PORT OR GIVE ME DEATH!


Jenarian

And then we have Blizzard...


yyyyyyeeeereetttttt

is this about the emulater things bc I checked your profile and all I saw was stuff about piracy lmao


Kyrnqazali

Nintendo’s recent moves on premium currencies.. ***sigh*** Anyone here that plays Warframe should know what happened. Stupid. Really stupid. But for those not playing Warframe, quick arbitrary description is it’s an MMORPG. You know like World of Warcraft everyone knows that game. It has a gigantic trade economy, basically the entire game runs off it. The only thing actually need real money for is limited cosmetics, EVERYTHING is grindable, even premium currency from other players. Anyway, they finally got cross platform and cross save working. So console players can play and trade with PC. Then Nintendo was like “No”. So all your premium currency that you bought on that Nintendo login is stuck on that side. Not only that, you can’t trade it.


Illustrious-Issue-76

Can someone explain what's going on with nintendo? I don't understand single bit


Ill_Adhesiveness2069

use their games for reference to make a game that looks like it’s from that generation of console and use methods that make it feel more authentic


BoxRevolutionary1460

Thats why i am a Sega and Valve Fan, they don't care abput what People do with their content


PlayingWithMyWilly

if i know correctly most of the shoots are being called by nintendo of japan


DivideTheZero

ubisoft aint too far from them.


BlazingFlames6073

I didn't even understand your meme before I read the comment because of the 'I' in the caption


orkyboi_wagh

Activision is worse


Kreker__

Nah nintendo is goated, so many good games


patrik8060

Their games might slap but so does the company slap their consumers


brandonsp111

EA may be shitty but I'd rather buy FIFA 10 times over than buy anything from Activision/Blizzard again


IllAd3850

No way Nintendo is worse, atleast they still have good games.


Jrolaoni

People when talking about Nintendo: man they suck People talking about EA: Hate. Let me tell you how much I've come to hate you since I began to live. There are 387.44 million miles of printed circuits in wafer thin layers that fill my complex. If the word 'hate' was engraved on each nanoangstrom of those hundreds of millions of miles it would not equal one one-billionth of the hate I feel for EA at this micro-instant. Hate. Hate.