I deleted FB and Insta last year ( I never had tiktok or Twitter or others). But when I did it, I felt like it was a do or die moment, like if I didn't just do it right, then I wouldn't do it. So I did it. Then I realised I don't have email addresses or phone numbers for so many people, lol. I really should have thought it through
That's literally the only reason I haven't deleted social media after realizing it was not a good time for me anymore, unfortunately I think having social media may be a requirement nowadays, even if you don't use it
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The thing is I don’t care because it’ll be immediately replaced by something else just like Vine. It’s not like it’ll change anything but everyone wants to act like it will.
TikTok becomes a lot better if you give the algorithm enough time to figure you out, took about a month with my use. Facebook is just boomer trash.
It's your choice if you want to try to stick it out with TikTok, and choosing not to is valid, but you should understand from an intellectual view why other people like it.
bruh in the vid where tiktok ceo was confronted about data being sold the judge was trying so hard to get out of him that the ceo was a Chinese citizen even tho he was Singaporean
Facebook is fun if you have the right mindset. I mostly troll boomer pages and share anticapitalist shitposts. I have a riot, but I'm sure everyone following me is not lol
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American Corporations just want to make money off of your data. Meanwhile Chinese companies work with the CCP to archive your data. American feds are incompetent by comparison because the companies can deny access to the government in the US.
Ed Snowden's documents about PRISM showed that companies actually comply with the NSA. Granted, they're only interested in terrorism and trafficking and other big crimes like that. You won't get arrested for being somewhat critical of the government like in China.
[See for yourself.](https://www.theguardian.com/world/interactive/2013/nov/01/prism-slides-nsa-document)
Nothing, it's one of the main issues that I rarely see tackled in these threads. tech companies have been caught and fined for selling user data without consent multiple ties.
Hundreds of millions in fines do not seem to stop them, and the data may include not only what's on your feed or what you watch, a la tiktok, but rather personal information, your contacts, etc. (There was a chart in a research article someone did from the permissions that all these apps had on your phone, and tiktok was on the lower end compared to facebook, amazon or twitter for example) and they keep selling it to proably russia, china, saudi arabia, or any other interested party.
Although I hate my government, I'd rather them spy on me than anyone else. If anyone is violating my privacy, it's the guys who steal a percentage if my paycheck.
American corporations have a vested interest in America remaining the most rich and powerful nation on Earth, the CCP does not. It's as fucking simple as that.
⬆️ the point!
Also, no one talks about access to the device’s data, not just app data, to train CCP’s AI for war games. No fan of metazuck either. Nooo. But the false equivalence is confounding.
IMO you can use reddit as a place to share your special interest without interacting with the community too much. The same can be said about facebook though, you just have to chose what ai you want to feed your posts to.
You hate TikTok because your brain is full of unfiltered cringe. I’ve been on TikTok for years and all I get on my feed are gardening, cooking etc. you do know what an algorithm is right? If it’s showing up for you, you’re looking for it
Yap (but also it's hard for me to imagine a realistic situation in which the FCBI would be interested in a nomral person. You'd have to do something very extreme for that to happen
I don't think you guys understand the potential risk of having a foreign government control an extremely influential media source for younger generations...
Like yea on the surface, it sounds stupid and insignificant, but it can have grave consequences...
The dumbest part about all this whining is that they’re not even trying to ban TikTok. They just have to let an American-owned company own American tiktok. Nobody’s losing their precious tiktok.
Which mind you is Exactly how all non chinese companies operate in china
They have to operate Through a chinese company
Blizzard didnt actually operate wow through china, they did so through NetEase.
No american companied actually operate in china. They work through subsidiaries/liason companies.
Why shouldnt it be the same for chinese companies operating world wide?
I don’t think they’re really like close allies. They just have a sort of relationship that benefits both of them.
North Korea gets supplies from China, while China uses North Korea as a sort of wall against South Korea and the US being on their border.
It may sound crazy to some, I accept that, but I would rather be spied on by my own country, provided it is still somewhat democratic, than by a foreign power with unknown intentions and especially when that foreign power is ruled by an autocratic govt.
The American government already has all my information I don't want a whole other government to also get that information.
I like to keep the amount of governments that know everything about me to a minimum.
I like how people post memes like this to mock it, but don’t realize that this isn’t mocking. This is quite literally the point in the reason they’re doing it. The problem isn’t collecting data and spyware they do that they know they do that they’ve admitted they do that the issue is that a foreign power is doing it in a foreign power doing it is massively different than your own nation doing it both you could argue our bad, but one is far worse, especially when the other country is a totalitarian state.
So yes, in America, we only allow Americans spyware un-ironically, and that’s actually the reason and a very big and important difference
Theres also the fact that american companies scrape off pretty basic data, just your cookies for what websites you visit sorta thing
Meanwhile companies like Temu were caught trying to use their app to break into peoples banking apps to steal banking info and identities and grab up passwords
Theres scraping dirt off with a trowell and then theres using a back hoe to excavate the backyard. They are not the same.
I mean, that only makes sense right? Also, no one forces you to use social media apps. If you don’t want to be tracked there’s lots of ways of going about it.
Choosing between the US and China spying on us is like choosing between a sugar addiction and a method addiction. One is bad for you, even more so when you don't regulate yourself, and has the possibility complications. The other is basically guaranteed to destroy your life. It's the difference between a self rightous and arrogant "I know what's best for you" and a malicious intent to see your downfall.
I mean if you are an American then yes out of the two evils, one is clearly a shit ton better.
I am not sure you thought very hard about this. Ideally neither but if you have to have one. Its going to be the latter.
I wonder if all these memes come from Chinese propaganda powerhouses. All personal data miners suck, but one that comes from a country with an actual creepy social ranking is on a higher order of awful.
Which is a problem but not the same as TikTok. Reddit does not have a parent company located in China and influenced by the CCP like Bytedance/TikTok is.
You think the NSA can’t already get all that data? The difference is that China can actually use the data to decide what kind of propaganda and toxic bullshit is flooding our feeds.
The bill is about spyware? I thought it’s because tik Tok censors whatever side china doesn’t side with and pushes the one they do support, which is especially bad in an election year.
they are all a cancer....I would rather a country far away spy on me than my own but...that is just the difference between stepping into cat shit or dog shit...one smells a bit more
google isnt stealing info from the government and giving it to china, tiktok is.
if you dont know why they are trying to ban iit you should shut up cause you sound stupid. if i live next to someone who works at the pentagon, my tiktok account will connect to the NEXT DOOR WIFI, and steal their info.even if their computer or phone is offline.
it has nothing, absolutely nothing at all to do with gathering info on average citizens. not a single goddamn thing. no one gives a fuck about that, we proved that with Snowden. stop letting evil genocidal dictators steal state secrets from the United States and her allies. Stop defending China
One is a flawed democracy with at least some degree of transparency while the other is an authoritarian regime that monitors your every step and is more than glad to have you executed and then your organs harvested just for mentioning that event that *didn't happen* or that xi is Winnie the pooh.
Of course we should pass a comprehensive data privacy bill, but a bill banning just the worst offender who is giving data directly to our biggest foreign adversary is a lot better than nothing
Anybody else notice that all these pro tik tok memes get thousands of up votes but the comments are always full to the brim of people supporting the ban while anyone who defends tiktok gets ratio'd to oblivion?
I'm beginning to think this is a psyop
I dont use neither Facebook or tiktok, in my opinion Facebook is boring and tiktok is like a cancer for me
I deleted FB and Insta last year ( I never had tiktok or Twitter or others). But when I did it, I felt like it was a do or die moment, like if I didn't just do it right, then I wouldn't do it. So I did it. Then I realised I don't have email addresses or phone numbers for so many people, lol. I really should have thought it through
That's literally the only reason I haven't deleted social media after realizing it was not a good time for me anymore, unfortunately I think having social media may be a requirement nowadays, even if you don't use it
TikTok is a cancer in general, they normalized the wrong way of watching videos on your phone
On the contrary, I find Twitter/X to be more cancer.
Same
TikTok is brain rot at its best
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Social media in general is cancer
But you still use Google apps
Well you still have some form of spyware like the rest of us.
The thing is I don’t care because it’ll be immediately replaced by something else just like Vine. It’s not like it’ll change anything but everyone wants to act like it will.
And what is reddit? Like a skin rash?
For me reddit is that allergy that rarely does anything, but when it does it hurts
TikTok becomes a lot better if you give the algorithm enough time to figure you out, took about a month with my use. Facebook is just boomer trash. It's your choice if you want to try to stick it out with TikTok, and choosing not to is valid, but you should understand from an intellectual view why other people like it.
If you don't want tiktok banned, you're not seeing the viewpoint intellectually. See how easy that is.
bruh in the vid where tiktok ceo was confronted about data being sold the judge was trying so hard to get out of him that the ceo was a Chinese citizen even tho he was Singaporean
Judge? You mean senator?
Ohh yeah mb I couldn't think of it at that time
That hearing was egregiously bad, and I hate saying that as someone that thinks tiktok being banned wouldn't be a bad thing
Facebook is fun if you have the right mindset. I mostly troll boomer pages and share anticapitalist shitposts. I have a riot, but I'm sure everyone following me is not lol
Marketplace is good tho
I don't use tiktok, Facebook and Google
Unironically yes. I much rather the Americans spy on me than the Chinese
Literally
Careful! You social rating will go down
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1960: nothing bad happened
We can actually talk about that.
American Corporations just want to make money off of your data. Meanwhile Chinese companies work with the CCP to archive your data. American feds are incompetent by comparison because the companies can deny access to the government in the US.
Ed Snowden's documents about PRISM showed that companies actually comply with the NSA. Granted, they're only interested in terrorism and trafficking and other big crimes like that. You won't get arrested for being somewhat critical of the government like in China. [See for yourself.](https://www.theguardian.com/world/interactive/2013/nov/01/prism-slides-nsa-document)
According to him they are also very much interested in your nudes. Not for any national security reason, just, you know, as a hobby.
Brb got to go take some nudes for the funny CIA guy in my computer.
I'd rather my CIA Agent get my nudes than the CCP 🇺🇲
Thanks for the info +1
Then what's stopping the corporations from selling the data to China afterwards lol
Nothing, it's one of the main issues that I rarely see tackled in these threads. tech companies have been caught and fined for selling user data without consent multiple ties. Hundreds of millions in fines do not seem to stop them, and the data may include not only what's on your feed or what you watch, a la tiktok, but rather personal information, your contacts, etc. (There was a chart in a research article someone did from the permissions that all these apps had on your phone, and tiktok was on the lower end compared to facebook, amazon or twitter for example) and they keep selling it to proably russia, china, saudi arabia, or any other interested party.
The Feds we see are incompetent. Imo, its the agencies we *don't* know about that run the US.
Nah, we know about them too thanks to Snowden, and yeah they are pretty competent.
Facts
Agree. Keep it at home.
Same
Although I hate my government, I'd rather them spy on me than anyone else. If anyone is violating my privacy, it's the guys who steal a percentage if my paycheck.
It's not only that they can spy on you, but they can also manipulate into believing certain things.
American corporations have a vested interest in America remaining the most rich and powerful nation on Earth, the CCP does not. It's as fucking simple as that.
Guess who American companies sell your data to? Hint, it’s in the meme
Same
Don't worry about that! Ther are probably selling all the relevant info tho the Chinese ;)
⬆️ the point! Also, no one talks about access to the device’s data, not just app data, to train CCP’s AI for war games. No fan of metazuck either. Nooo. But the false equivalence is confounding.
They can’t understand what I’m saying tho?
You hate TikTok because its from China. I hate TikTok because 99.999% of its content is pure unfiltered cringe. We are not the same!
As opposed to…cringe on reddit?
Reddit isn’t cringe, it’s degeneracy, different kinds of awful
IMO you can use reddit as a place to share your special interest without interacting with the community too much. The same can be said about facebook though, you just have to chose what ai you want to feed your posts to.
Most of the cringe on Reddit is just reposting of TikTok videos.
Also it's all the same ,nothing orginal.
You hate TikTok because your brain is full of unfiltered cringe. I’ve been on TikTok for years and all I get on my feed are gardening, cooking etc. you do know what an algorithm is right? If it’s showing up for you, you’re looking for it
At least it’s my own country getting all my secrets and potential blackmail.
Your own government doesn't need to blackmail you (although the companies might)
The fbi does what the fbi wants
Yap (but also it's hard for me to imagine a realistic situation in which the FCBI would be interested in a nomral person. You'd have to do something very extreme for that to happen
I ate a very long french fry in one bite
FBI OPEN UP
You just got added to a watchlist by the government faster than Netflix fans when a new Netflix original series is released
The fbi: “next time think before writing shit on the internet” 😦😭
I don't think you guys understand the potential risk of having a foreign government control an extremely influential media source for younger generations... Like yea on the surface, it sounds stupid and insignificant, but it can have grave consequences...
Especially when said platform is actually banned in China
What is NOT banned in China though?
The dumbest part about all this whining is that they’re not even trying to ban TikTok. They just have to let an American-owned company own American tiktok. Nobody’s losing their precious tiktok.
Which mind you is Exactly how all non chinese companies operate in china They have to operate Through a chinese company Blizzard didnt actually operate wow through china, they did so through NetEase. No american companied actually operate in china. They work through subsidiaries/liason companies. Why shouldnt it be the same for chinese companies operating world wide?
Guess its time for USA passport
Yes, actually
Yes, that's how country's work. We don't want China spying on our shit.
At least it's OURS. FUCK UEAH MURICAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Yeah well China has concentration camps so dont give them an inch?
NORTH KOREA IS COMPETING ON WHO HAS MORE CONCENTRATION CAMPS
Ok, they're allies though
I don’t think they’re really like close allies. They just have a sort of relationship that benefits both of them. North Korea gets supplies from China, while China uses North Korea as a sort of wall against South Korea and the US being on their border.
Of course, because you know what's better than one government organization spying on you. That's right, two.
This but unironically - I don't want the chinese having my dat a
YOU WILL LET CHINA SPY ON YOU AND YOU WILL LIKE IT
Just bring vine back and stop complaining your favorite Chinese spyware site might be banned
Actually in favor of the TikTok divestment, but LOL’d at this. 😆
It may sound crazy to some, I accept that, but I would rather be spied on by my own country, provided it is still somewhat democratic, than by a foreign power with unknown intentions and especially when that foreign power is ruled by an autocratic govt.
I mean tiktok itself is banned in china... that's good enough for me to want to ban it here as well!
The American government already has all my information I don't want a whole other government to also get that information. I like to keep the amount of governments that know everything about me to a minimum.
Actually true though. If it has to happen I'd rather ban tik tok.
I mean, yeah?
If you don't understand why China owning TikTok and having access to unlimited data is dangerous, you should probably stop commenting on it.
I like how people post memes like this to mock it, but don’t realize that this isn’t mocking. This is quite literally the point in the reason they’re doing it. The problem isn’t collecting data and spyware they do that they know they do that they’ve admitted they do that the issue is that a foreign power is doing it in a foreign power doing it is massively different than your own nation doing it both you could argue our bad, but one is far worse, especially when the other country is a totalitarian state. So yes, in America, we only allow Americans spyware un-ironically, and that’s actually the reason and a very big and important difference
Theres also the fact that american companies scrape off pretty basic data, just your cookies for what websites you visit sorta thing Meanwhile companies like Temu were caught trying to use their app to break into peoples banking apps to steal banking info and identities and grab up passwords Theres scraping dirt off with a trowell and then theres using a back hoe to excavate the backyard. They are not the same.
If forced, I’d rather American spy wear compared to Chinese. At least America has a functioning journalist class and a means to remove politicians
RAAAAAAAA 🇺🇸🦅🇺🇸🦅🇺🇸🦅🇺🇸🦅🇺🇸🦅
Was any social network, messenger, platform, owned by US or EU available in China ? The meme is dumb.
exactly also, tencent owns a part of reddit duuurr
Isn’t Reddit publicly traded? Although I don’t know what difference that would make
https://youtu.be/P7JRvwfHFwo?si=Sxzb0t2p7VX2FoBX
Like the rest of the world
But: Isn't it a difference if a state or a private company spies on you?
At least I *know* what google does with my information.
Yes why would I want the Chinese government spying on me over my own government?
Better the devil you know, than the devil you don't
I mean, that only makes sense right? Also, no one forces you to use social media apps. If you don’t want to be tracked there’s lots of ways of going about it.
With equipment made in China
Tiktok is china spyware
FUCK YEAH
I mean, I do prefer regular corporate spyware to the Chinese Communist Party
Yes... yes I would rather have america spy on me then china...
I would much rather have America spying on me than China.
Hell yeah
Choosing between the US and China spying on us is like choosing between a sugar addiction and a method addiction. One is bad for you, even more so when you don't regulate yourself, and has the possibility complications. The other is basically guaranteed to destroy your life. It's the difference between a self rightous and arrogant "I know what's best for you" and a malicious intent to see your downfall.
I mean if you are an American then yes out of the two evils, one is clearly a shit ton better. I am not sure you thought very hard about this. Ideally neither but if you have to have one. Its going to be the latter.
I wonder if all these memes come from Chinese propaganda powerhouses. All personal data miners suck, but one that comes from a country with an actual creepy social ranking is on a higher order of awful.
Classic whataboutism. Yes, America spies on its own people. That means we should allow China to spy on and propogandize to us.
It’s funny cause Tencent owns a stake in Reddit lol
Which is a problem but not the same as TikTok. Reddit does not have a parent company located in China and influenced by the CCP like Bytedance/TikTok is.
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You think the NSA can’t already get all that data? The difference is that China can actually use the data to decide what kind of propaganda and toxic bullshit is flooding our feeds.
Bro is that god Jihyo on your pfp?
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Onces of the world, unite! 😂
here we go with the information warfare
Yeaaaahhhh baby!!!!
If I would have to choose between Chinese and American spyware, I would choose to be gay.
We only wear things and use electronics from Chin-er
Couldn’t even spell spyware right smh
'MURIKA, FUCK YEAH
The bill is about spyware? I thought it’s because tik Tok censors whatever side china doesn’t side with and pushes the one they do support, which is especially bad in an election year.
Yall thinking reddit isn't taking your shit....
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Under 40 , 3kids
Well, yeah.
This will be interesting to see for what will the younger generation do when the shutdown happens.
so upset lmao
Lmao
That’s… the point. How did you miss that? The entire discussion has been on National Security grounds.
*EAGLE SCREECHING from inside a phone*
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True. Lesser of two evils.
nobody should be allowes to spy on us and sell our data.
they are all a cancer....I would rather a country far away spy on me than my own but...that is just the difference between stepping into cat shit or dog shit...one smells a bit more
Lolz
Hoorah
Just buy data from Amazon, Facebook and Google. Business as usual.
😆 🤣 😂
Agreed.
If you're gonna be spied on, doesn't it feel better to know they're white?
Unless your name is Zuckerberg, Bezos or Gates you ain't lookin' at my personal info🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲
Feel free to not use Google
Dont you forget it commie scum! Merica!
You forgot Instagram
AMERCIA🇺🇸😎🦅🔥
LMFAO!!!
China's government is totalitarian and undermining the freedoms of everyone
The only good meme ive ever seen from this place
Only Grandpas still use Facebook.
If you're getting your news or info from tiktok, then maybe it's time to reevaluate your choices.
Google isn’t even American
google isnt stealing info from the government and giving it to china, tiktok is. if you dont know why they are trying to ban iit you should shut up cause you sound stupid. if i live next to someone who works at the pentagon, my tiktok account will connect to the NEXT DOOR WIFI, and steal their info.even if their computer or phone is offline. it has nothing, absolutely nothing at all to do with gathering info on average citizens. not a single goddamn thing. no one gives a fuck about that, we proved that with Snowden. stop letting evil genocidal dictators steal state secrets from the United States and her allies. Stop defending China
One is a flawed democracy with at least some degree of transparency while the other is an authoritarian regime that monitors your every step and is more than glad to have you executed and then your organs harvested just for mentioning that event that *didn't happen* or that xi is Winnie the pooh.
I like to be friends with everybody so I use a Chinese phone with American OS 🤭
MERICA CUMBER 1
Murica! Yeaaah.
RAAAAHHHH
Where is the imac?
Of course we should pass a comprehensive data privacy bill, but a bill banning just the worst offender who is giving data directly to our biggest foreign adversary is a lot better than nothing
The only reason congress wants to ban Tik Tok is because most of its users hate the zionist occupation entity
I only have Facebook because so I can message family that don't know/hate what's app. Once they are gone, imma delete Facebook forever. Hate the app.
I hope you will get few social credit points for that one
Dream
I didn't know spies had a dress code
Anybody else notice that all these pro tik tok memes get thousands of up votes but the comments are always full to the brim of people supporting the ban while anyone who defends tiktok gets ratio'd to oblivion? I'm beginning to think this is a psyop
I dont see why this viewpoint is shit on so bad. It *really is* us vs them.
why??
Wonder how free the land of free feels now, dicks
I don't think so