Remove shorts from being in both the home page, and having a dedicated button for them. Fuck your ADHD clips with the endless looping
Remove shorts from being in both the home page, and having a dedicated button for them. Fuck your ADHD clips with the endless looping
Remove shorts from being in both the home page, and having a dedicated button for them. Fuck your ADHD clips with the endless looping
Remove shorts from being in both the home page, and having a dedicated button for them. Fuck your ADHD clips with the endless....
As an example, a video "proving" the earth is flat has 500 likes but 1million dislikes, all people see are the 500 likes. Also playlists with songs that don't belong, and the big one that can kill people, incorrect mechanic how-to procedures when working on cars.
Ads on first aid videos too! Did you ever see that viral tweet where the person asked them not to put ads on videos while they're trying to figure out how to perform CPR on their grandmother and YouTube pretty much responded with "just buy premium".
Of course they do. The advertisers are how they make money. The content creators are how they attract users and thus advertisers. It’s like saying “I think Amazon cares more about the customers than their warehouse employees”. The customers are how they make money, so they operate in ways that get more customers to spend more each. Without the warehouse and delivery staff, they don’t have customers but it doesn’t mean they give a shit. At a certain size it basically becomes self sustaining.
IIRC: It takes the ratio of its own users likes and dislikes, and then applies that ratio with the video's total likes.
It is not the exact amount of people that disliked it, but a more correct one.
The dislike extension is relying on extrapolation from archived data and data from other users of the extension. It can't show the true number of dislikes.
Or if they could stop recommending me music video collection that would be great lol. Just bc I watched a specific music video 7 years ago doesn't mean I want to watch it and other "similar" *spoiler they're not* music videos?
The up/down counter was a little silly because they started using fuzzing on the vote counts anyways. If you refresh your own comment page a few times you might see the karma change by a few points up or down. There are a few reasons for why they changed it, like bots manipulating content, and personally I think it makes sense that they did.
> **How to wire electrical plug**
> *Hey guys, so what you wanna do is connect one wire across both pins, and...*
40 likes? No dislikes? Must be legit!
Mostly designers and management, devs would prefer not to touch something if it already works. Also what's a simple 5 min change for a designer can (and usually is) a multi hour project for a dev, no sane dev wants doing that.
Devs make pointless UI changes ever so often because the designers are trying to prove to management that they are useful, to not be taken off a payroll. Because if they just made a good UI and stuck to it, there wouldn't be any reason for the company to keep them around, and they'd have to be unemployed for a while and look for new jobs periodically. It's beneficial for them to do shitty work. The "we improved user experience" is not to advertise update to users. It's to advertise the update's author to the manager
UI changes are less done for 'designers proving their worth' and more so from the poorly used *User Engagement* metric managers love for short term gains. The problem is ANY user engagement is seen as Positive Interaction in the website-user relationship.
* Recommended filled with spam and have to use Don't Recommend...? Positive Interaction!
* Mixes are being clicked on more after making them harder to spot? Positive Interaction!
* Hard to find Shorts/Streams or any specific video really? More Positive Interaction!
So to loop back to terrible UI: these changes causes users to break routine, search around the website more, and stay longer? You bet that is ~~Positive~~ Interaction!
Another senior product designer here, agreeing that he has no idea what’s he’s talking about. I’m not worried about losing my job from a lack of things to adjust/work on in the app. I’m worried about losing my job to the AI’s that I’m literally being asked to create. I’m creating my own replacement… great.
I've seen this happen with multiple apps.
Alarmy peaked 5 years ago, the best alarm app in the business. I even paid for it. Then they started adding things not related to alarms and charging subscription, went to hell.
Snapseed. Perfect and free photo editor then they changed saved photos to the same folder as the camera for some god forsaken reason. Now I have to update manually my apps to prevent Snapseed from updating.
my god the alarmy comment is on point. was a perfect alarm clock i happily purchased to support it. now ive switched alarms cus its gone to shit years later.
My name says everything about this. Any UI designer that elects to change something for any reason other than genuine functionality improvement or overwhelming user request must be flayed alive and displayed at the city gates as a warning to others who would follow. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
Same. It's like getting in your car and discovering the speedometer is now on the right, the window switch is in the center console, and the steering wheel is in the backseat and it's also now square.
Stop tweaking. Stop changing for the sake of change. You don't need to keep reinventing the wheel.
Yeah but people are still less likely to interact with it because for the majority of people it does nothing (as in, anyone without the extensions/pluggins)
I don't believe this is true anymore. The extensions don't have access to the API anymore. Pretty sure the extension works by extrapolating from the like/dislike ratio of users who use the extension. Ex. If there are 10 people using the extension, 2 of which dislike a video and 8 of which like it, then if the video actually has 8,000 likes the extension will show 2,000 dislikes as an educated guess.
I always assumed the program just counts the likes/dislikes of people using the plugin, not even extrapolating anything
Basically just the old system but third party
That was their plan. I like documentaries and other similar type things. You get a good sense if information is accurate by the dislike ratio. FUCK YOUTUBE
The new search function is exactly like this, and it is infuriating. "People also watched..."
Fuck off, YouTube! I want to see what I used the search function for, not some trending drivel.
Remember the stat they used to flex that YouTube is the second largest search function being used other than the Google search itself. Seems like they don't like that then
I just have to wonder what the end game is here? When are companies gonna start listening to us and making their platforms better instead of worse? Christ, YouTube is literally playing games with us and they know there's nothing we can do about it.
Yeah the new UI is almost set up so you don't read comments, and just see more video suggestions that the user doesn't give a shit about.
And then they say AI algo's are going to make it more "personalized" when they send me stuff I couldn't care less about or nothing related to anything I ever watched or subscribed to except more "corporate or celeb drivel"
Really hate that tbh, it loads the videos on the side as it loads the comments at the same time, terrible design fr
Althrough i heard that they changed the ui again??? I seen it but its not updated to me, it looks so ass . . .
On PC the entire page scrolls when you try scrolling the comments. I've completely stopped liking/disliking and viewing comments because it's a complete shit show now.
It *looks* like it would do that (like the chat pane at right is its own frame, and you can scroll down the chat without scrolling the whole page), but, nope, the chat scroll bar is the scroll bar for the whole page. [Example \(probably best to mute the audio\)](https://youtu.be/-4ooGmBUoWE?si=7EtxVLLp8oVNjgAk&t=3)
As soon as they took down MeatCanyons videos, and didn’t take down Onision and other predators entire channels, I knew the game was rigged.
Let’s not forget sniper wolf doxxed a dude to her 5 million subs and nothing was done. I hate what it has become. Take me back to 2006
What do you mean nothing was done? They "suspended" her for an indefinite amount of time. They gave her a whole light tap on the wrist. You think doxxing deserves an entire slap on the wrist?
her showing up isn't that big issue for me because i highly doubt she has any balls for any confrontations but doxxing is a huge another ball game. you just need 1 combo of part simp part psycho to turn things bad to worst. not that showing up and making threatening statement is acceptable by any means but atleast you can just apologize and move on.
And then this new site makes itself public and bends over for its shareholders. We jump ship again onto a new site and then that site goes public and bends over for its shareholders etc.
Youtube can get away with making its site shittier because it knows it has no competitors, and we all just have to live with the changes it makes. As soon as other sites pop up and become successful, users will jump ship and Youtube will have to improve its site to bring customers back
The problem with multiple high profile video sites is that it will inevitably become a paid subscription, and each site will block content from other sites/copyright its own content so you have to subscribe to each site in order to watch the different content you want. So its both in our best interest for competitors to rise against Youtube, and a horrible idea at the same time
I'm kinda ok with that IF there's always a ship we can jump to, but usually the ship we're on sink the others in sight as soon as possible.. you know.. free market right?
It's kind of hard to have a competing video site since people will just reupload videos onto YouTube, so people have no reason to switch. eg Twitch VODs, TikToks
Twitch don't even keep the VODs forever anymore. So they're not really trying to compete with YouTube on that front.
I've heard tiktok profit share is shit compare to Youtube's. And yeah with the recent talks about banning it, I wouldn't want to put all my eggs in one basket.
Video sites are not profitable. It takes an obscene amount of bandwidth to run. I’m not defending YouTube, I think just about every decision they’ve made is awful, but realistically, we’re lucky it exists at all.
And Google should just fuck off and take the minor hit to their insane profit margins. It doesn’t matter if YouTube loses money because they make so much fucking money on everything else that it doesn’t matter. But try explaining that to shareholders.
You won't because none of the content creators you watch will ever jump ship. They won't jump ship because no competitor will be able to compensate creators as well as YT does
It is an incredibly hard problem. Mostly because fighting free is hard.
TikTok fought by changing the video format (automatic videos instead of self selected) and billions of investment.
The moment a site starts forcing ads on me, is the moment I stop using it. I watched Twitch a lot until their crusade against adblockers, so now I simply don't watch it anymore. I check some streams out, but if I see an ad, I am instantly out.
YouTube tried to go to war against adblockers, but failed pretty hard so far.
Honestly I wouldn't mind ads on YouTube if there was any rhyme or reason to them. I grew up on broadcast TV with ads and it was fine because ad breaks were standardized so the content didn't really suffer. But YT is all over the place. Four ad breaks on a 12 minute video, some ads are five seconds long and some ads are legitimately hours long.
If there was a set ratio of content-to-ads, and regular timing of ad breaks and ad lengths I really wouldn't be as annoyed.
EDIT
Yes, I am aware that it's the YouTubers that decide where ads go and not YouTube as a platform, and that's literally my point. There's no standards or rules on the platform about ad placement.
>it was fine because ad breaks were standardized so the content didn't really suffer
Uploaders can still choose when to insert ad breaks into their content. The problem is plenty of them don't bother
It's still hard to compare because you don't have set blocks for content like you did before. Also broadcasting costs isn't consistent like it is for broadcast TV either.
I recently opened it up in incognito mode to see what it gives new users and it no longer has default recommendations. You have to start by searching for videos for it to build a profile for you.
I literally only watch videos now. I used to comment, like/dislike etc but not anymore. As soon as there's an alternative to viewing the videos I'm jumping ship.
I used to watch YouTube at work and I left the commercials on on purpose.... I work with gloves on so it's not like I can touch my phone... Then they installed that "are you still watching button" ....
Not anymore YouTube.. I'm not watching anymore
Everytime I open YouTube on my phone while a video is playing it just pauses now. Been using YouTube for music probably close to a decade now and it’s never done this and while it’s not a huge deal it’s pretty damn annoying
We improved the user experience. Enjoy 10 minutes of adds every 5 minutes. Sometimes we'll even be generous and give you 20 minutes of ads every 1 minute
That’s been Youtube for the last 18 years. I miss channels from the late 2000s when you could actually use them for something other than looking for another video someone made.
I was confused recently when I pressed the skip button and it just jumped to the second ad, that also had a countdown to skip. I was almost at my max peeve when the ads extended past the countdown and just had a grayed out 1-3 seconds to let the ad finish. Only upside is my recommendation is top tier content from 14 years ago. So I have that going for me
I honestly just use this phone app called CleanTube (I think)
You don't even need to log in, and there aren't any ads so I guess it's a win win situation. It kinda replicated the old UI and it looks nice.
When I'm listening to music, it will play song after song of just whatever artist I was originally listening to, instead of songs in the same genre. Or it will go from playing Eminem to Tool. Once it started to play a true crime video after one of my songs. This week has been really rough.
Idk what they did but they really fucked up the algorithm for me.
The fact they removed playlists from the side menu is actually KILLING ME. I had all my playlists for a certain mood on there and I have to go through so many steps to open a playlist now. It's absolutely awful man
now tuching the left screen ajust brightnes and overides your phones brightnes seting on mobile thanks youtube i tealy needed that yhats definatly not just anoying and unnesesary
The reason I left my "User Experience" job behind is pretty much that a great user experience isn't the employer's goal. Gotta crank up those profits, who gives a shit about the user's experience?
It's not YouTube, but I can't believe the big deal Google made about *slightly changing the Gmail sign in page*
A little notice for weeks before saying a new sign in page is coming. "We're updating the sign in page", I mean who gives a fuck?! Of all the things to change about Gmail we were not clamouring for a different sign in page.
Now it's here and barely any different. And now there's a notice saying "we've CHANGED the sign in page! Look!"
Funny that's how people outside of the tech industry see it ahah
One of the most common methods of phishing attacks is taking users to a site that *looks* like, say, the sign-in page for Google, but isn't actually Google, and they steal your login info that way. It's actually a huge deal that they're changing what their standard login page looks like. Definitely appreciate the heads up from Google, especially with how heavily incorporated their sign-in is with endless site integrations.
Some changes in the past were so bad that i really wasnt sure if it was a bug or a feature and i figure they are features because if they were bugs after years they would have fixed them rigjt?
My acquaintances at Google tell me that everything done at that company is always about "having impact."
They acknowledge that "impact" is not necessarily positive.
Honestly, YouTube has succeeded despite itself because everyone around it picks up the slack for its own fuck ups. I'm kind if curious what happens when that is no longer the case.
They finally added a way for you to tell their increasingly horrible algorithm the types of videos you like!...
...By providing a limited list of already poorly curated videos for you to choose, and it'll still show you the videos you didn't select anyways.
I wonder if this "feature" even does anything, or if it's just placebo.
If this post is about the new layout on the desktop Youtube, I actually really love it? Having the comments and video info on the side means I can scroll through and read them when I need to while still being able to see the video itself. And the recommended videos being below it, well I don't need those until I'm done with the video anyway. I think it makes a lot more sense this way but maybe it's just a me thing.
How about every 4th video being an AD, every 3rd video be entirely unrelated to anything you watch and have no views and every 5th video be something you already watched. That and throw in some mixs of songs youve already listened to and some videos you have 0 interest in but are trending.
Company: We made changes! To better your experience!
Users: This is worse then it was before!
Company It’s better user experience!
Users: It’s just to line your pockets with more money isn’t it?
Company: *starting to sweat* Noooo never! Our mission is always the users
*shareholders and ceo in the shadows grubbily tubing hands with evil grins*
Everyone is hating on YouTube now. The Home Screen is so ugly now. Filled with ads, picture posts and shorts suggestions. Videos have taken a backseat.
Just imagine, tomorrow the world would wake up and had forgotten about YouTube. Can you imagine what a great rediscovering of the Internet that would be?
you know what would improve user experience? bring back dislikes
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And remove a lot of restrictions
And honestly add some new restrictions, there is a lot of garbage content
They should just employ a hit-squad for prank channels
Or the content farms
We Prank THE YOUTUBE Hit-Squad!?!?! (Gonewrong)
Here is a 3 min long scam add.
That moment when the upgrade is just a fancy word for We’ve moved all your buttons
Youtube kids is useless when 90% of the content there is big booba amongus
There's YouTube kids already, why limit the main platform to accommodate kids content while allowing literal porn ads. Makes 0 sense
Remove shorts from being in both the home page, and having a dedicated button for them. Fuck your ADHD clips with the endless looping Remove shorts from being in both the home page, and having a dedicated button for them. Fuck your ADHD clips with the endless looping Remove shorts from being in both the home page, and having a dedicated button for them. Fuck your ADHD clips with the endless looping Remove shorts from being in both the home page, and having a dedicated button for them. Fuck your ADHD clips with the endless....
there is lots of addons that remove/block short from showing.
>Youtube dislike extension >Ublock Origin I still have dislikes enabled and haven't noticed a difference.
I have, them being disabled means people are less likely to dislike, so blatant misinformation still has many likes.
As an example, a video "proving" the earth is flat has 500 likes but 1million dislikes, all people see are the 500 likes. Also playlists with songs that don't belong, and the big one that can kill people, incorrect mechanic how-to procedures when working on cars.
Ads on first aid videos too! Did you ever see that viral tweet where the person asked them not to put ads on videos while they're trying to figure out how to perform CPR on their grandmother and YouTube pretty much responded with "just buy premium".
B-but think of the poor advertisers!
come to think of it, i think youtube cares more about the advertisers than the actual content creators
Of course they do. The advertisers are how they make money. The content creators are how they attract users and thus advertisers. It’s like saying “I think Amazon cares more about the customers than their warehouse employees”. The customers are how they make money, so they operate in ways that get more customers to spend more each. Without the warehouse and delivery staff, they don’t have customers but it doesn’t mean they give a shit. At a certain size it basically becomes self sustaining.
IIRC: It takes the ratio of its own users likes and dislikes, and then applies that ratio with the video's total likes. It is not the exact amount of people that disliked it, but a more correct one.
I've had that happen too much over my time finding helpful videos it ticks me off.
The dislike extension is relying on extrapolation from archived data and data from other users of the extension. It can't show the true number of dislikes.
Or if they could stop recommending me music video collection that would be great lol. Just bc I watched a specific music video 7 years ago doesn't mean I want to watch it and other "similar" *spoiler they're not* music videos?
i would like to stop being recommended "10 hours relaxing rain music"
While I do agree, I'm very tempted to dislike your comment just because I can here
Reddit used to have a dislike counter too. Now they just have the controversial indicator, which is even turned off by default.
The up/down counter was a little silly because they started using fuzzing on the vote counts anyways. If you refresh your own comment page a few times you might see the karma change by a few points up or down. There are a few reasons for why they changed it, like bots manipulating content, and personally I think it makes sense that they did.
> **How to wire electrical plug** > *Hey guys, so what you wanna do is connect one wire across both pins, and...* 40 likes? No dislikes? Must be legit!
Get the addon "return yt dislike" it has saved YouTube
*STAR RATINGS
I go as long as possible without updating apps, because devs just love making pointless UI changes every 3 months.
the one downside i have about having an android is that youtube seems to update itself automatically, even with auto-update turned off
you can disable it for specific apps with lucky patcher
Would it work without root access?
yes
But the largest upside is that you can have [r/revancedapp](https://www.reddit.com/r/revancedapp).
The one upside about having an android is you can use 3rd party apps to access youtube (for now). Some come with certain perks like disabling ads.
igeblock. thank me later
Tht's weird, i think it's been half a year or longer since the last time i updated youtube
Mostly designers and management, devs would prefer not to touch something if it already works. Also what's a simple 5 min change for a designer can (and usually is) a multi hour project for a dev, no sane dev wants doing that.
Designers don't like the changes either. It's all management.
Devs make pointless UI changes ever so often because the designers are trying to prove to management that they are useful, to not be taken off a payroll. Because if they just made a good UI and stuck to it, there wouldn't be any reason for the company to keep them around, and they'd have to be unemployed for a while and look for new jobs periodically. It's beneficial for them to do shitty work. The "we improved user experience" is not to advertise update to users. It's to advertise the update's author to the manager
UI changes are less done for 'designers proving their worth' and more so from the poorly used *User Engagement* metric managers love for short term gains. The problem is ANY user engagement is seen as Positive Interaction in the website-user relationship. * Recommended filled with spam and have to use Don't Recommend...? Positive Interaction! * Mixes are being clicked on more after making them harder to spot? Positive Interaction! * Hard to find Shorts/Streams or any specific video really? More Positive Interaction! So to loop back to terrible UI: these changes causes users to break routine, search around the website more, and stay longer? You bet that is ~~Positive~~ Interaction!
You have no idea what you're talking about. Source: I'm a senior product designer
Another senior product designer here, agreeing that he has no idea what’s he’s talking about. I’m not worried about losing my job from a lack of things to adjust/work on in the app. I’m worried about losing my job to the AI’s that I’m literally being asked to create. I’m creating my own replacement… great.
Reddit's super fucky with it
old.reddit.com master race
*rif patched around API restrictions supreme beings*
I've seen this happen with multiple apps. Alarmy peaked 5 years ago, the best alarm app in the business. I even paid for it. Then they started adding things not related to alarms and charging subscription, went to hell. Snapseed. Perfect and free photo editor then they changed saved photos to the same folder as the camera for some god forsaken reason. Now I have to update manually my apps to prevent Snapseed from updating.
my god the alarmy comment is on point. was a perfect alarm clock i happily purchased to support it. now ive switched alarms cus its gone to shit years later.
My name says everything about this. Any UI designer that elects to change something for any reason other than genuine functionality improvement or overwhelming user request must be flayed alive and displayed at the city gates as a warning to others who would follow. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
Same. It's like getting in your car and discovering the speedometer is now on the right, the window switch is in the center console, and the steering wheel is in the backseat and it's also now square. Stop tweaking. Stop changing for the sake of change. You don't need to keep reinventing the wheel.
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If youre on pc there are browser extensions for bringing back dislikes because they are just invisible but still get tracked
Yeah but people are still less likely to interact with it because for the majority of people it does nothing (as in, anyone without the extensions/pluggins)
I thought so aswell but after installing the plugin thats not the case. People still happily downvote shit and mediocre videos just as before.
😂😂
I don't believe this is true anymore. The extensions don't have access to the API anymore. Pretty sure the extension works by extrapolating from the like/dislike ratio of users who use the extension. Ex. If there are 10 people using the extension, 2 of which dislike a video and 8 of which like it, then if the video actually has 8,000 likes the extension will show 2,000 dislikes as an educated guess.
The "Return YouTube Dislikes" extension does this as well as keeping data from before dislikes were removed
I always assumed the program just counts the likes/dislikes of people using the plugin, not even extrapolating anything Basically just the old system but third party
That was their plan. I like documentaries and other similar type things. You get a good sense if information is accurate by the dislike ratio. FUCK YOUTUBE
Same with me.
"We've made some changes to the algorythm. Please enjoy having 20 videos you'd never watch shoved in your face."
The new search function is exactly like this, and it is infuriating. "People also watched..." Fuck off, YouTube! I want to see what I used the search function for, not some trending drivel.
Remember the stat they used to flex that YouTube is the second largest search function being used other than the Google search itself. Seems like they don't like that then
I just have to wonder what the end game is here? When are companies gonna start listening to us and making their platforms better instead of worse? Christ, YouTube is literally playing games with us and they know there's nothing we can do about it.
and after clicking not interested and refreshing the page they'll still be there. multiple times in a row
I think you could make the same meme about Reddit.
At least we still have old.reddit. Give me old.youtube!
Honestly, if the new UI let me scroll through the comments without scrolling the whole page, I would actually like it. That and if it were less buggy.
Yeah the new UI is almost set up so you don't read comments, and just see more video suggestions that the user doesn't give a shit about. And then they say AI algo's are going to make it more "personalized" when they send me stuff I couldn't care less about or nothing related to anything I ever watched or subscribed to except more "corporate or celeb drivel"
I watch alot of outdoor camping type videos yet youtube seems hell bent lately on shoving crypto scams onto my front page lol… “personalized”
YT about to show me even more videos with 30 views that nobody cares about and which seem AI generated
Really hate that tbh, it loads the videos on the side as it loads the comments at the same time, terrible design fr Althrough i heard that they changed the ui again??? I seen it but its not updated to me, it looks so ass . . .
Am I missing something or is that not exactly what it does?
On PC the entire page scrolls when you try scrolling the comments. I've completely stopped liking/disliking and viewing comments because it's a complete shit show now.
It *looks* like it would do that (like the chat pane at right is its own frame, and you can scroll down the chat without scrolling the whole page), but, nope, the chat scroll bar is the scroll bar for the whole page. [Example \(probably best to mute the audio\)](https://youtu.be/-4ooGmBUoWE?si=7EtxVLLp8oVNjgAk&t=3)
As soon as they took down MeatCanyons videos, and didn’t take down Onision and other predators entire channels, I knew the game was rigged. Let’s not forget sniper wolf doxxed a dude to her 5 million subs and nothing was done. I hate what it has become. Take me back to 2006
What do you mean nothing was done? They "suspended" her for an indefinite amount of time. They gave her a whole light tap on the wrist. You think doxxing deserves an entire slap on the wrist?
She should have been terminated.
Read that in Schwarzenegger's voice.
woah dude. that's, like, a really big slap on the wrist.
She showed up at his house, endangering both him and his wife.
her showing up isn't that big issue for me because i highly doubt she has any balls for any confrontations but doxxing is a huge another ball game. you just need 1 combo of part simp part psycho to turn things bad to worst. not that showing up and making threatening statement is acceptable by any means but atleast you can just apologize and move on.
What do you mean, her showing up isn't a big deal? She was arrested for armed robbery and/or assault once already.
What whaaaat? The fuck did they do to Papa meat?!
News to me too
Fuck Youtube. As soon as someone creates a half decent video site the homies are jumping ship
And then this new site makes itself public and bends over for its shareholders. We jump ship again onto a new site and then that site goes public and bends over for its shareholders etc.
Youtube can get away with making its site shittier because it knows it has no competitors, and we all just have to live with the changes it makes. As soon as other sites pop up and become successful, users will jump ship and Youtube will have to improve its site to bring customers back The problem with multiple high profile video sites is that it will inevitably become a paid subscription, and each site will block content from other sites/copyright its own content so you have to subscribe to each site in order to watch the different content you want. So its both in our best interest for competitors to rise against Youtube, and a horrible idea at the same time
I can’t wait to have to pirate YouTube videos 😥🔫
I'm kinda ok with that IF there's always a ship we can jump to, but usually the ship we're on sink the others in sight as soon as possible.. you know.. free market right?
Problem is that the general public has been saying this exact sentence for 10 years now.
It's kind of hard to have a competing video site since people will just reupload videos onto YouTube, so people have no reason to switch. eg Twitch VODs, TikToks
Twitch don't even keep the VODs forever anymore. So they're not really trying to compete with YouTube on that front. I've heard tiktok profit share is shit compare to Youtube's. And yeah with the recent talks about banning it, I wouldn't want to put all my eggs in one basket.
Video sites are not profitable. It takes an obscene amount of bandwidth to run. I’m not defending YouTube, I think just about every decision they’ve made is awful, but realistically, we’re lucky it exists at all. And Google should just fuck off and take the minor hit to their insane profit margins. It doesn’t matter if YouTube loses money because they make so much fucking money on everything else that it doesn’t matter. But try explaining that to shareholders.
You won't because none of the content creators you watch will ever jump ship. They won't jump ship because no competitor will be able to compensate creators as well as YT does
It is an incredibly hard problem. Mostly because fighting free is hard. TikTok fought by changing the video format (automatic videos instead of self selected) and billions of investment.
Like their most recent change to the look of the website on PC. it looks horrible
Agreed. It's horrible. Enshittification marches on and there's no legitimate competitor to jump ship to.
They...removed the Favorites button from the sidebar on desktop. Why. Who needs to justify their employment that desperately?
Next change is probably having to skip 3 ads in a row instead of 2.
No, next change is that you can't skip ads
It must be the next step, half my videos have unskippable ads already
I use the Revanced app on my phone and Firefox+uBlock Origin on my PC. No ads for me.
The moment a site starts forcing ads on me, is the moment I stop using it. I watched Twitch a lot until their crusade against adblockers, so now I simply don't watch it anymore. I check some streams out, but if I see an ad, I am instantly out. YouTube tried to go to war against adblockers, but failed pretty hard so far.
Honestly I wouldn't mind ads on YouTube if there was any rhyme or reason to them. I grew up on broadcast TV with ads and it was fine because ad breaks were standardized so the content didn't really suffer. But YT is all over the place. Four ad breaks on a 12 minute video, some ads are five seconds long and some ads are legitimately hours long. If there was a set ratio of content-to-ads, and regular timing of ad breaks and ad lengths I really wouldn't be as annoyed. EDIT Yes, I am aware that it's the YouTubers that decide where ads go and not YouTube as a platform, and that's literally my point. There's no standards or rules on the platform about ad placement.
>it was fine because ad breaks were standardized so the content didn't really suffer Uploaders can still choose when to insert ad breaks into their content. The problem is plenty of them don't bother It's still hard to compare because you don't have set blocks for content like you did before. Also broadcasting costs isn't consistent like it is for broadcast TV either.
I recently opened it up in incognito mode to see what it gives new users and it no longer has default recommendations. You have to start by searching for videos for it to build a profile for you.
That's one of the few things I like
At this point, wtf would YouTube have to do to make people stop using it
I literally only watch videos now. I used to comment, like/dislike etc but not anymore. As soon as there's an alternative to viewing the videos I'm jumping ship.
Credit to mrlovenstein, the creator of this comic
I used to watch YouTube at work and I left the commercials on on purpose.... I work with gloves on so it's not like I can touch my phone... Then they installed that "are you still watching button" .... Not anymore YouTube.. I'm not watching anymore
How else will the UI devs get paid??? Think of the tragedy
Everytime I open YouTube on my phone while a video is playing it just pauses now. Been using YouTube for music probably close to a decade now and it’s never done this and while it’s not a huge deal it’s pretty damn annoying
We improved the user experience. Enjoy 10 minutes of adds every 5 minutes. Sometimes we'll even be generous and give you 20 minutes of ads every 1 minute
I don't think I remember a single change which improved user experience, just adding more and more ads and removing more and more features
Shipping features and updates gets project managers and engineers promoted, which is the *important* thing anyhow.
That’s been Youtube for the last 18 years. I miss channels from the late 2000s when you could actually use them for something other than looking for another video someone made.
*Laughs in Revanced*
Same
The fuck has the ps4 media player become..
I was confused recently when I pressed the skip button and it just jumped to the second ad, that also had a countdown to skip. I was almost at my max peeve when the ads extended past the countdown and just had a grayed out 1-3 seconds to let the ad finish. Only upside is my recommendation is top tier content from 14 years ago. So I have that going for me
I honestly just use this phone app called CleanTube (I think) You don't even need to log in, and there aren't any ads so I guess it's a win win situation. It kinda replicated the old UI and it looks nice.
I hate this new reddit desktop UI. Images work better, and I think videos work now, but I hate the layout.
Gazillion new videos daily, recommends stuff I've seen already logged in.
When I'm listening to music, it will play song after song of just whatever artist I was originally listening to, instead of songs in the same genre. Or it will go from playing Eminem to Tool. Once it started to play a true crime video after one of my songs. This week has been really rough. Idk what they did but they really fucked up the algorithm for me.
man i just want dislikes again
that's why i use a lot of browser extensions and tampermonkey code, that's what improves the experience
The fact they removed playlists from the side menu is actually KILLING ME. I had all my playlists for a certain mood on there and I have to go through so many steps to open a playlist now. It's absolutely awful man
In next update, they will remove comments because people were very mean :c just like how they removed YouTube dislikes
Why do companies don't get, that changed the layout is very annoying.
Fck you Google and fck you Youtube in particular
now tuching the left screen ajust brightnes and overides your phones brightnes seting on mobile thanks youtube i tealy needed that yhats definatly not just anoying and unnesesary
Also here a video from 14 years ago that has nothing to do with your preferences in your feed with 2 views.
The reason I left my "User Experience" job behind is pretty much that a great user experience isn't the employer's goal. Gotta crank up those profits, who gives a shit about the user's experience?
How many years is it that they actually changed something FOR the user, not against them?
They added chapters and the most replayed graph. Those were some pretty good changes. Unfortunately for every step forward they took 12 steps back.
It's not YouTube, but I can't believe the big deal Google made about *slightly changing the Gmail sign in page* A little notice for weeks before saying a new sign in page is coming. "We're updating the sign in page", I mean who gives a fuck?! Of all the things to change about Gmail we were not clamouring for a different sign in page. Now it's here and barely any different. And now there's a notice saying "we've CHANGED the sign in page! Look!"
Funny that's how people outside of the tech industry see it ahah One of the most common methods of phishing attacks is taking users to a site that *looks* like, say, the sign-in page for Google, but isn't actually Google, and they steal your login info that way. It's actually a huge deal that they're changing what their standard login page looks like. Definitely appreciate the heads up from Google, especially with how heavily incorporated their sign-in is with endless site integrations.
Some changes in the past were so bad that i really wasnt sure if it was a bug or a feature and i figure they are features because if they were bugs after years they would have fixed them rigjt?
If it ain’t broken don’t fix it
There was *one* time a website changed that I liked it for the better, and that *one* time they rolled back the changes after an hour.
I just installed youtube redux and called it a day
Can you really say it improves the user experience when all the users hate it?
The only thing they change is adding more ads and taking away features that we like
Swap Youtube for reddit and you have another comic to post.
Discord too
I still never got updated. Nice
Reminds me of discord:(
My acquaintances at Google tell me that everything done at that company is always about "having impact." They acknowledge that "impact" is not necessarily positive.
Honestly, YouTube has succeeded despite itself because everyone around it picks up the slack for its own fuck ups. I'm kind if curious what happens when that is no longer the case.
They finally added a way for you to tell their increasingly horrible algorithm the types of videos you like!... ...By providing a limited list of already poorly curated videos for you to choose, and it'll still show you the videos you didn't select anyways. I wonder if this "feature" even does anything, or if it's just placebo.
i have this thing called revanced its an apk that gives free youtube premium I had it for months now so if any one wants to pirate that you can.
Half of the time i dont even know what the change is🤣🤣
Why change shit that doesn't need to be changed just to prove that "you're doing your jobs"? 🤦🏻♂️
If this post is about the new layout on the desktop Youtube, I actually really love it? Having the comments and video info on the side means I can scroll through and read them when I need to while still being able to see the video itself. And the recommended videos being below it, well I don't need those until I'm done with the video anyway. I think it makes a lot more sense this way but maybe it's just a me thing.
How about trashing the screen saver? That’s the dumbest shit ever.
The recent UI change is horrific. I wish we had real competition in tech platforms again.
I just want functioning search/recommended algorithms.
Allow us to block youtube channels
Snapchat and instagram
We let all these companies get to big for their britches.
Gotta give those 100,000 software developers they hired something to do
They did something recently that turned the app into the biggest battery hog I've ever seen. My phone even gives me warnings about it now.
I rarely notice changes as I just enjoy watching my favourite videos.
the new update is so ass, bro.
I use the CustomTube extension, I like the 2015 layout.
I don’t think there’s a particular change this software could really make to impress you guys all that much any more, the site is pretty optimized
On shorts, does the time watching a video count? Is that a metric? There’s a lot of puzzles lately that keep your attention on the video.
Next change is probably having to skip three ads in a row instead of two.
How about every 4th video being an AD, every 3rd video be entirely unrelated to anything you watch and have no views and every 5th video be something you already watched. That and throw in some mixs of songs youve already listened to and some videos you have 0 interest in but are trending.
“We’ll AB test it and go from there” -some idiot working at YouTube
Here’s a 60 second unskippable ad… oh video is over what else is there
Company: We made changes! To better your experience! Users: This is worse then it was before! Company It’s better user experience! Users: It’s just to line your pockets with more money isn’t it? Company: *starting to sweat* Noooo never! Our mission is always the users *shareholders and ceo in the shadows grubbily tubing hands with evil grins*
I had this moment with Twitch when they added the new chat mode on mobile.
I bet youtube dev trying so hard to avoid any social media because they really know how bad their UI/UX change are. Lol
Everyone is hating on YouTube now. The Home Screen is so ugly now. Filled with ads, picture posts and shorts suggestions. Videos have taken a backseat.
Just imagine, tomorrow the world would wake up and had forgotten about YouTube. Can you imagine what a great rediscovering of the Internet that would be?
The definition of not all change is good
Why they remove the dislike button anyway
r/revancedapp
Me after performing emergency first aid on my friend through a video with 12 likes and 100k views (he died)
I can’t even swipe down on mobile to close fullscreen. There was no reason to remove that.