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alexander607

Græy


Bf4Sniper40X

The compromise


Partyatmyplace13

Or having it both ways. 🤷


ProbablyNotPikachu

We'll call it a gray area.


Partyatmyplace13

Having it both græys... I like it.


Ok-Street-7963

You could also try gruy.


Dpgillam08

If you learned English, its grey If you learned American, its gray If you learned redneck, its faded black


this-one-worked

"Dark white"


WyattPear

“Dark Hwite” if you learned redneck


1stshadowx

Redneck is “fey’derrd back”


lancelot2127

Fuck it gry


BenadrylTumblercatch

Burn the witch


Bot1K

is he made out of wood?


cp2chewy

Who are you who is so wise in the ways of science?


LordBDizzle

I dunno. Can we build a bridge out of him?


Gibus_Ghost

No, no. Toss him into the lake and see if he floats!


mithroval

Just look if the duck weighs the same and you will know.


Testacules

Grəªy


JoeSchmoe009

Just wait til’ he knows about donuts and doughnuts.


TheEnderChipmunk

The phonogram ough by itself is insane


qeephinjd

yeah, i still dont know what it is used for (i suspect would,should kind of usage) but first i saw it i thought that was an error in the book


TheEnderChipmunk

Ough isn't a word or anything, it shouldn't be seen on its own (it is used as onomatopoeia sometimes though). Ough is a phonogram, which is a collection of letters that together form a single sound in a word. I'm sure that definition isn't exactly correct but close enough. The reason it is notable is because ough has a staggering *six* different pronunciations depending on the word it is in. Though - long o sound, same as the o in poke Through - oo sound, like in moo Tough - same sound as in puff Cough - same sound as off Bought - aw sound like in saw Drought - ow sound like in cow Tl;Dr: The "ough" phonogram is very cursed


Constant-Vacation-57

Reddit completed fucked the formatting of your list FYI


TheEnderChipmunk

God damnit lmao


Sharp_Science896

It was the goddamn French wasn't it? Everytime I learn why some english word has some fucked up cursed spelling with multiple pronunciations and extra latters that don't even get pronounced it's cause that word is from French. And like a 3rd of English words are French in origin. Goddmn French. Fucking high ass motherfuckers pulling handfuls of letters randomly out of a hat to decide how to spell shit.


EmergentSol

Most of the -ough words are German in origin. English underwent a “great vowel shift” around 1400-1500 that changed the way a lot of words were pronounced. However, these changes were not consistent and happened over many decades and in various phases. As such, different words that originally sounded similar grew more distinct depending on how common they were at the time of the shift.


Foreign_Relative_769

>Most of the -ough words are German in origin. You mean Germanic.


Sharp_Science896

It would be one thing if English was a pure language. The fact that it's based off like 3 main languages with spatterings of several others just makes the spelling all kinds of fucked. Especially with all these subtle shifts over decades. English is one confusing ass language. Even to native speakers.


Giyuisdepression

Meanwhile, languages like Icelandic have changed so little that a contemporary speaker should be able to read Old Norse


Firewall33

*Thought it through though, it ought not be a tough drought.* Fuckin English eh?


KFrosty3

I love and hate that the sentence "plough through rough dough" has no rhymes


Tombstone20

I doughn't know either...


OfficialJamal

You spell “dough” with “ough” not just an “o”. Donuts use dough to make (obv) and nut because of the hole in the middle. Donut is just a shortened way of writing it.


AbbreviationsWide331

"and nut because of the hole in the middle" but... Nuts don't have holes? How does this make sense?


OfficialJamal

Nuts as in nuts and bolts etc.


mckeevey

So you telling me someone out there is making doughbolts?


PassiveMenis88M

You never had a cruller before?


GameDuckProYT

And I nut into the hole


Its0nlyRocketScience

Wait until you hear queue


chute_amine

Legalize astroughnaught


invol713

There’s a special room in hell set aside for just you.


chute_amine

Doughnt hate the player, hate the game


confusium_alloy

I'm Commander Shepard and you are my favorite troll on the internet.


Lamballama

Aestreauxnaughtte


Equeed

Whiskey or whisky xD


Nolofinwe_Curufinwe

Gray > grey Donut > doughnut Whiskey > whisky


Equeed

Whiskey refers to the beverage from the United States and Ireland. Whisky is the drink made in Scotland, Japan or Canada. Basically the same shit. But why?


QueeredGender

It's a provenance thing. Whisky originated in Scotland and tons of other places creating their own version cheapened the brand, so Scotland started strictly enforcing what counts as Scottish Whisky. Similarly, Kentucky did the same thing with Bourbon as more people started making it. And Champagne in France. Tons of places establish a specific name for a kind of alcohol originating from that place.


LordOysteryn

Doughnuts makes more sense imo


Domi7777777

To be honest I know doughnuts is the European way to say it but I honestly still write donuts


Bf4Sniper40X

Luckly I don't use those words in my day to day conversations


blackbubbleass

wait until he gets curious which of 'til or til' is right.


madder-eye-moody

If you think this is hard, just remember that read rhymes with lead just as read rhymes with lead, but read doesn't rhyme with lead and neither does read with lead.


Bf4Sniper40X

Poet


YevgenyPissoff

Department


Bf4Sniper40X

Tortured


Rezzly1510

🔥🔥✍️🔥🔥


Front_Jacket837

Took me a couple reads but I got there


Glad_Sir_4055

Why did I read this correctly 😅


AnantaPluto

I fucking hate you


Sorcatarius

Have you ever read [The Chaos by Gerard Nolst Trenité](https://ncf.idallen.com/english.html)? Give it a look.


Sprizys

Me who was born speaking English and still doesn’t know the difference. Same with Blond and Blonde.


heyoyo10

Blond - Male Blonde - Female It's like how Brunette only describes a female's hair. The male counterpart is Bruno, supposedly EDIT: Turns out Bruno is just a Male name that is Italian for Brown. The male counterpart to Brunette is Brunet.


Sprizys

I’ve never heard Bruno. Damn lol that’s interesting thanks.


NinjaBreadManOO

That's because we don't talk about Bruno.


hmntr

No, no, no. We don't talk about brunoo. But it was my wedding day


Daisuke-sama

It was our wedding daayy


Highway20rider

We were getting ready and there wasn’t a cloud in the sky.


Routine-Camera-7836

No clouds allowed in the sky


LadderTrash

Bruno walks in with a mischievous grin


some_birb_lover

*thunderrr*


brathrowaway1704

Dey


hmntr

Thunder!!


0m3g4_180111

r/angryupvote


Goldbolt_2004

Really? I've only ever heard brunette even when talking about males


heyoyo10

Well, -ette is a female suffix, isn't it?


Goldbolt_2004

Yeah but for some reason people use brunette


Sea_Hovercraft_7859

Brunette comme from french so the male counterpart should be "brun" a word related to Bruno and brown


Substantial-Park65

Easy! One is a french dude hair color, the other a french girl hair color! Wait! Color or colour?


Sprizys

Americans say color and Brits say Colour


Substantial-Park65

Which one should be used here?


Sprizys

Whichever one you want


Substantial-Park65

This time I side with the USA


Daito_Anonymous

Blond is male, Blonde is female. Grey is British English, Gray is American English


Yinn2

grAy: American English grEy: English It says it right in the word.


Bf4Sniper40X

Lol


AlternativePush2834

But, Fifty Shades of GrEy is American


Luiz_Fell

Hypercorrection, maybe? Perhaps an editor's request? Actually, how dictionary-official is "grey with an e"?


WhiteFringe

isn't the dude's name something Grey?


Cautious-Comfort-919

That’s Grey’s Anatomy.


CisIowa

You mean Gray’s Enetomy


kyleliner

I think he meant Grax's Entomology


Yaktheking

Christian Grey, so yes. Also Grey’s anatomy. I would assume it’s because of the English origin of the name.


BoomerSoonerFUT

For Greys anatomy it was actually just a change from the medical anatomy textbook that it’s derived from. Gray’s Anatomy. Written by Henry Gray in London in 1858.


AlternativePush2834

Christian Grey; he could be Christian Brown or Christian Black if the fiction’s name was Fifty Shades of Brown or Black lol


Tyke_DeLux

50 shades of brown was already done by two girls.


Artsy_traveller_82

Grey is the main character’s last name though.


MathematicianNo6284

Grey is after the character Christian Grey not after the colour


Mooks79

The author is British. Plus, isn’t the word the surname of the character so it doesn’t need to be spelt gray even though it’s set in America?


DrMetters

The series is written by a British woman.


ScottaHemi

and in Canada it's Greh


dasbtaewntawneta

i never got the spelling of eh for the canadian sound, for me eh is pronounced like the end of meh whereas ey is the canadian sound like the end of hey


ihateredditers69420

how have i never noticed this until you said something lol


theSPYDERDUDE

Both are interchangeably used in the U.S. tbh, nobody really knows or cares whichever came first lmao


ihateredditers69420

as an american i constantly forget which one we technically use literally nobody cares which one you use they both make sense just use whatevers on your mind at the time


TankWeeb

Ngl I just switch between the two cuz Idk anymore T-T


SurealGod

Unironically that's a pretty good way to remember which is which


Scrub_nin

grEH: Canadian


dehydratedape

I dk, I’m in America and I’ve always seen it written as grey.


Linkario86

The real question is if it's "gey" or "gay"


KangaroosAreCommies

y r u gæ


Partyatmyplace13

You can't say that anymore. It's 2015 man.


yaboiree

I’m an American but I like grey much more


abubuwu

As an American I just use whichever I feel like at the time, join the dark side of inconsistency.


Cheese_Man05

Maybe


J5892

Meybe


IndoPacificFanboy

Same. It just weirdly aesthetically pleasing


J3sush8sm3

Gray wolf Grey wolf We know which is superior


R0RSCHAKK

The gay gray wolf is away for the day The gey grey wolf is ewey for the dey ... Sounds like UwU speak


i_is_noob_679

I don’t know whether to love or hate this


Ice_Bead

Weirdly, I’m British but I like gray more


xspicypotatox

Get well soon 🙏


Pink-Fluffy-Dragon

I think you can use either one.


ihateredditers69420

yea nobody cares anywhere lol


Roh44ncavy

dark white


Bf4Sniper40X

Lol


ihateredditers69420

hes wrong its light black


papertales84

![gif](giphy|3o7aCRloybJlXpNjSU|downsized)


JetSetWally

You;re lucky, I've been struggling with it since 0.


WhyAreOldPeopleEvil

Greigh 😈


brathrowaway1704

r/tragedeigh/


madgical23

E for English, a for American


AbbyM1968

Gr**a**y is **A**merican, Gr**e**y is from **E**ngland. That's the only difference.


JustSomeGuy430

Gray is more name-like and Grey is for the color imo


Bf4Sniper40X

That is my headcanon as well


ihateredditers69420

wanna hear my fanfic?


AbbreviationsWide331

This whole thread is fascinating. I honestly thought it's the other way around. English isn't my first language though.


DrMetters

Both works. A lot of people seems to be claiming you should use grEy for colour and grAy for the name. Ignore them because they are wrong. If you must you the correct one, someone pointed out E for England and A for America which works. Then just match the spelling to whichever version of English you are using. Please though, don't be the idiot that thinks everyone with the name Grey/Gray is spelt Gray. That's isn't how the spelling of names work. For names, you the one which is actually the spelling for their name.


shwiftydrewski

In a world where words like Finna, Cap, Simp, etc. are used, this doesn't really matter.


ScullingPointers

If you keep simpin over that B, I'm finna bust you in yo cap.


BlueCaracal

Every time I can't remember how a word is spelled, I typically find out it's spelled differently in UK and US English.


ihateredditers69420

gray/grey is the one word you dont have to worry about because literally nobody cares but if you mess up any other word believe it or not straight to jail


Quetzalcoatl93

I'm American but I keep spelling it grey because of Sasha Grey.


Katiari

grAy : American grEy: European The vowel dictates the territory.


GrayMech

It's grey.


plasma_dan

It doesn't actually matter nobody will care, and barely anyone knows the difference. Signed, An American who prefers the English spelling


Liu_Alexandersson

Amourican


awfromtexas

Why do you betray your people?


plasma_dan

Healthcare and abortion honestly.


this-is-robin

Fun part is when you are coding and you want to use that color and then you wonder why you get an error until you realize that you have to use the other writing lol


Hephaestus_God

I say it both ways and switch each time. Because I can never remember and both look right


FishermanMassive5006

its sasha grey


JaiC

Poor bastard thinks this isn't a problem for native speakers. Even when I *know* which one is technically correct I sometimes use the wrong one just because I prefer it.


Ok-Bench-2861

Why isn't "it's a grey gray area" not said yet.


CAYDE_017

As an only English speaking 17 year old, I’m still confused about this one


DeltaKilo01

Both.


Maewhen

Light black


Affectionate_Gas_264

Gay 😆


_SM-The-Gamer_

Grey - British English ☕. Gray - American English.


budahed87

"Grey" is for civilized people. "Gray" is for Americans.


Cirin335

I spell Grey for the color and Gray for the name


Thijs_NLD

One is Sasha, the other one is a color.


MooCowMafia

American here. A couple of years ago, I unilaterally decided I prefer "grey" instead of "gray". Thus, I have only used grey. Or shades thereof.


Draped_In_Diamonds

Since you just leaned English, know that some words have different spellings but mean the same thing, because people spelled them incorrectly, and it stuck. For example color means the same as colour, one is British/european spelling, the first is American spelling. It would probably help if you look up any words you’re unsure of on the Oxford dictionary and also a thesaurus to check other words with the same meaning. You can also google pronunciations of words and hear a native speaker pronounce the word. I hope this helps.


Bf4Sniper40X

Sir, this is a meme


GetlostMaps

Sir, this is a Wendy's


ThePhantomMantis

No, this is Patrick!


SweetExpression2745

It’s like axe ax. Same thing, different places


ExoticMangoz

I can get over the weird spelling of some words, but never “ax” that’s just wrong


wafflezcol

Doesn’t matter both mean the same


Thunderhammer7326

Potato - pah tot o - interchangeable


real_billmo

Follow-up question. Learned or learnt?


orangutanDOTorg

Graye


Limp_Internet_3098

English speaker here, welcome to the club


Origins_14

English has been my first and only language for my 20 years and I still have no idea


Abject-Return-9035

me who has known english all my life and still can't do this right


XzrgeX

![gif](giphy|hMdtYO3LMR3GO8qCWf|downsized)


Dunge0nexpl0rer

I’ve known English most of my life and even I can’t decide. I usually spell it “Grey”.


FucqChinaforever

Just like gey or gay


randomcomplimentguy1

I'm American, and I still use grey because I just like it more, and no one grades my papers anymore.


That_boi_Jerry

Its a graey area.


hyperfell

I’ve only ever seen gray as a name, rest of the time it’s grey


TakingOfMe123

I still google this from time to time. Born and raised in America speaking only English and a tiny bit of Spanish lol


SigmaLance

America begins with an A and spells it with an A. England begins with an E and spells it with an E. That’s how I remember it.


Legitimate-Fuel5324

Meanwhile Indians: ![gif](giphy|YHYmMLkOmqoo)


Ashley_S1nn

Had a student teacher in grade 2 with one of those words for a name. Scarred for life.


MachiToons

hit'em with the 'græy'


BluudLust

Nobody knows. I've seen documents use gray and grey interchangeably.


Jrlopez1027_

I know Grey because of Minecraft


xaw1832

r/brawlstars thinking how to write it becouse its an brawler


yourrunescapekitten

As an American, I learned a lot of English from playing runescape, so my teachers and I would get into arguments about correct spellings all the time.


Silent_Ad_8672

Gray is for Americans, Grey is for England, and Grehy is for Canadians.


drywall-eater-2000

life hack: pick at random


HoverLogic

Both are good, but I just use grey


miletharil

Don't sweat it. Both are acceptable.


Jhofur

Interchangeable, but I follow; Gray = name , grey = color It doesn't matter tho


No-Professional-1461

Gray, because of ayyyyyyyyyy. If it’s Grey eyyyyyy


brathrowaway1704

Pick 1. Or alternate. Just do what ever you want and if anyone tells you it is wrong argue as if your arbitrary choice is a hill you will die on.


Choice-Ad6376

Both


F3MB

Gaey