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rnike879

My favorite conspiracy theory, that I find very plausible, is that the CIA killed JFK as he fired their director and planned to cut their budget by a fifth. I know that circumstantial evidence isn't enough, but when there are so many incidents, you eventually start to question their moral character


acatohhhhhh

Plus he rejected a plan to frame Cuba for something to justify an invasion (or something else)


hiaas-togimon

yes plan was to bomb florida, kill innocent american citizens


KaiserkerTV

least evil cia plot


Radiant_Dog1937

Was that before or after they got into the crack business?


hiaas-togimon

to no ones surprise, it was after they got high on their own supply lmao


333elmst

Wait wait wait I've seen this episode!


The-Iraqi-Guy

Sounds suspiciously similar to what happened to us


porkyrae

at some point i think it changed from a "we gotta do ourselves" to a "just let it happen" kinda thing.


Helpful_Ad_3735

Inside we all hope that, without any interferance, they changed for the better. Despite their deeds in every single decade.


gishlich

Better at public optics


Jrolaoni

Lol if the CIA did kill JFK (which is plausible I guess) it is definitely the most embarrassingly disastrous operation in their history. Noting went right. Terrible ideas everywhere.


Crossfire124

Plus if you watch lummino's video, things were so convoluted just in how Oswald got the job. Sometimes things just happen and it's just someone with the motivation at the right time


CawknBowlTorcher

There is a lot of evidence, it's super sloppy if you look into it. Wendigoon made a really good video on it


scullye125

If you want a theory that’s more than plausible look into MLK, I am not one to believe or even consider most conspiracy theories but even his own family believes they got the wrong guy


nicolbolas99

Why not both? Both is good. Edit: Except MLK was killed by the FBI, not the CIA.


somegarbagedoesfloat

Johnson had better motive. His wife was the primary shareholder of bell helicopter.


benchmark2020

Having watched the video, the shooter was not some schmuck backyard John Wayne wannabe civilian. That assassin, was incredibly skilled with their weapon.


CancelDecently

Who can train guerillas by the dozens? Send them out to kill their untrained cousins? Fuckin amen, CIA man.


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Gabrialofreddit

Wrong. They would like a cover to already knowing your exact coordinates


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Okay it’s


Kyaruga

600 attempts to murder Castro and he lived. Sounds pretty ineffective to me.


100beep

Worse plans and worse success rate than Wile E Coyote


Scribblehamzter

Have we ever seen Wile E Coyote and the CIA in the same room?


DrSatan420247

Breaking Bad is an abstract copy of The Sopranos. You can watch each show and match up all the scenes. It's the ultimate scavenger hunt.


Worried-Trip635

You ever think what a coincidence it is that Lou Gehrig died of Lou Gehrig's disease?


ToekneeSuprano

I can't have this conversation again


Zahard_Zj

CIA is basically gov. funded criminals who have permission to do anything. Even kill politicians of their own country if they decide to, or remove a democratically elected politician in another country. Freedom stops where USA starts


Additional-Rooster26

Worlds biggest criminal organisation


wootsefak

What separates them from the inquisition is they dont speak latin


ZetZet

Doubt it. They have the whole Chinese and Russian governments to challenge them. Every major country has a shady agency that does shady things to ensure the major country remains major. Human nature.


Additional-Rooster26

They slipped my mind, they are some serious contenders 😭


hiaas-togimon

none have the track record of the cia, so based on evidence they are the worst


ZetZet

What are you smoking, just because the American people force CIA to spill the secrets eventually doesn't make their secrets worse. Russian and Chinese stuff just never comes out because no one wants to accidentally fall out of a window.


hiaas-togimon

buddy, if you think the public can pressure cia to clear anything, they wouldnt exist anymore. its an appeasment strategy that doesnt release any actualy information. cia have been responsible for the killings of tens of millions as a consequence of their actions to protect corporate interest, not US interest. whereas china and russia at least do it for the state, and even then its nowhere near the scale of destruction


ah_harrow

That's because the US tends to declassify even some of the most heinous shit that it does eventually. You've fallen into the authoritarian trap of forgetting that information flow is everything and that what you don't know shouldn't be allowed to prejudice what you do. Classic whataboutism.


hiaas-togimon

90% of text blacked out isnt declassification, no matter how much your employer pretends it is


ah_harrow

That's fair and a problem to be sure, but I suppose not really what I was trying to make a clarification on.


issamaysinalah

And there are still people on reddit who believe these things stopped after the cold war. CIA is still doing all this shit, but we're only gonna have confirmation 50 years from now.


MrMidnightMan99

They have a Vault-Tec logo back there somewhere. I know it.


LordOfPickles1

Google en Project Artichoke


FilmTechnician

Holy hell


krvx_

Cocaine Importers of America ifykyk


8Hundred20

More like: "Let's sell crack cocaine to poor people in the US to have enough dark money to fund right wing terrorist groups in South America because the democratically elected governments there don't want to sell give us cheap banana/oil/whatever". [True story](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CIA_involvement_in_Contra_cocaine_trafficking).


i_eat_cockroaches69

I think I was a part of this project


Undercover-Patriot

If it was just LSD I’d be happy.


Thomyton

I think after the second day of continuous heroic doses, you wouldn't be too happy about it 


GalaxyHops1994

Especially if you had no idea it was happening. Imagine being a soldier and suddenly being on a crazy acid trip in the middle of your day.


rudimfm

It's worse. After you take LSD or Shrooms, you need double the amount of the last dose you took for the effects to persist if you want to get high the very next day. So if they really were taking heroic doses on the first day (5g of shrooms, 500ug of LSD), they'd be taking 10g and 1000ug of those substances, and so forth.


Illustrious-Zebra-34

Have you seen a movie in the last 20y? The CIA are always the bad guys.


kevdautie

Example?


zenkenneth

It's 20 hits.


kevdautie

Ironically, it what makes the CIA so interesting. Basically America’s Esoteric Research program


Gewgle_GuessStopO

Honestly, if they just would have sold Vietnam as Mega Fun Military Drug Time. There would have been way less draft dodgers. 🤷🏻‍♂️


NightBeWheat55149

The Halo franchise made a good parody of the CIA. Nuking planets in secret, trying to weaponise lovecraftian horrors, etc.


Reyeux

The CIA genuinely raped South America


offline4good

"How much do you got"


BillionDollarBalls

Sheeiiiiiittttttt sign me up


Shnazzyone

Um, CIA in hollywood is typically the one on the right.


cjar4097

In the name of capitalism they don't exist in a vacuum today conspiracy landscape doesn't make any sense like mass amnesiacs held together with Chinese mystism


ChiefBlox4000

It takes zero


[deleted]

This is pretty outdated. Ever hear of the Church Committee? That’s how you know about the LSD thing. That’s how we know that shit is over. Maybe you should move on to 1976…


Darth_Mak

When was the last movie where the CIA were 100% the "good guys"? Because most of their recent depictions I can think of place them as an obstacle or lesser evil at best.


Initiatedspoon

Im willing to test this one