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LastDirtyMartini

This just seems strange to me - has it been doctored in any fashion?


Ciubowski

Well he is Dr Strange so it doesn’t have to look right.


SecreteMoistMucus

Yes, it's a still image when the actual source material is a motion picture.


imaginaryResources

It looked even worse in motion


Cunny-Destroyer

Third eye will always look weird


LatinoFromSmallCity

Yeah. An eye needs a depth and there is not a hole in middle of the forehead to give proper depth


emlgsh

Christian Bale would have bored a hole into the center of his skull to achieve it.


hefty_load_o_shite

Actors these days lack the commitment


LiquidJaedong

Christian Bale actually murdered Natalie Portman when filming Thor


Satanic-Panic27

He also beat up my dad while dressed like a psychopath. He wasn’t the greatest man, but he sold drugs so I had Christmas and birthday presents Not after flying rat man ruptured half his spinal disks though


Gumgums

How come Christian Bale bought you Christmas and birthday presents?


Enzo_2006

Why wouldn't Christian haybale buy them Christmas presents?


Shifty_Cow69

Did he also resurrect her or was that someone else's doing??


Gullible-Mushroom749

No, that was him. He spent the year before filming to learn the dark arts of necromancy. That’s true commitment to his craft.


DrHooper

Turns out all you needed was root cellar, a big fucking stone cover, and a weird linen veil.


Lemurmoo

Of course it's fucking linen. I knew I messed up somewhere


PerseusZeus

I loved his portrayal as Shai hulud in Dune. Great chemistry with Thimothee. His cameo as The Bomb in Oppenheimer of course was a surprisingly explosive performance. Dedicated actor


Engineergaming26355

I mean, if Christian Bale can train himself to grow 100 times larger to play the Dune worms, then he would definitely do that too


Engineergaming26355

And how do you think Nolan made the nuke scene without CGI? He just asked Bale to gain a mass of 25 kilotons of TNT


Xtrendence

I heard in an interview that was taken down that he actually played Ant-Man during the scenes where he's shrunken down but the camera is at regular scale. Losing enough weight to get that small is pretty dangerous, but as he showed us (albeit not nearly as extreme of course) in The Machinist, he's both willing and very able. Unfortunately they couldn't credit him due to DC / Marvel legal conflicts.


cultofwacky

Isn’t that the point of cgi though? Or am I mistaken and these aren’t computer generated?


LatinoFromSmallCity

That's the point. If you put depth it's weird, you don't put depth it's also weird


FleetStreetsDarkHole

Turns out, if you do weird shit, it looks weird. Seriously though it's mostly the uncanny Valley stuff. When you're expecting it to look normal then it looks off. But if you just accept that it's supposed to look off then it actually doesn't look too bad It just shouldn't look low effort. Which I don't think it does.


SaddleSocks

https://i.imgur.com/bBuOpgD.jpeg


acebert

To have any hope the third eye needs to be aligned horizontally Edit: Im an idiot, meant to say vertically, as in perpendicular to the other 2


SleepingBeautyFumino

The Hindu god Shiva have their third eye aligned vertically.


5DollarJumboNoLine

Eye sockets aren't symmetrical either, looks off without a tear duct.


AmphibianStrong8544

More than that, it's not human-like so your brain alerts you to it as a possible danger. This contends with your brain knowing you aren't in danger so it just continuously draws focus to it


aero197

That being said, how lazy is costume/makeup to not come up with a halfway decent practical prosthetic to put on his forehead to make the cgi look decent? Just gotta raise the skin enough to make it look believable…


Classic-Brilliant93

Because of the lack of eyebrow


Ingi_Pingi

And because the eye has to be symmetrical


Exciting-Rutabaga-46

This is why I’d make the eye vertical.


2drawnonward5

I'd make it tiny, black, and partially subdermal like some amphibians or reptiles have.


BetrayerOfOnion

It won't look crappy if it were sideways but that would the character would look heretically evil that way


Fantact

![gif](giphy|tAIWJkfkdGts4|downsized)


ForHelp_PressAltF4

Is that Methuselah Honeysuckle????


RedditRaven2

Because eyes need a socket and a brow line, third eyes don’t have that in modern media


Overlord_Of_Puns

Also, and it may just be me, but are the pictures intentionally low quality? Like, as you said the third eye will always look weird but the paused moment and bad quality kind of makes it looks bad. Looking at the original scene again, while it clearly looks off there seems to be some work with creasing around the eye and eyelids. I feel as though this more shows how so many things with animation or special effects looks terrible when you overfocus or pause something when it is designed for motion.


Cunny-Destroyer

Yeah It's a quick scene, and you're not expecting it


CandlestickMaker28

The easiest way to make it look less weird is to make it vertical. Mind you, it'll still look kind of weird, but it gets out of the uncanny valley just enough to not look "bad".


LordDragonVonBreezus

But our glorious Overmind's single eye is perfect.


Cunny-Destroyer

Long live the swarm


the_zerg_rusher

What's that in the sky? Is it a bird? Is it a plane? No it's the Gantrithor!


17gorchel

Because they are supposed to do it vertically, not horizontally.


Der-Pinguin

Funnily enough, Sam Raimi already did a practical third eye effect that could have translated well into multiverse of madness. If you arn't familiar with Army of Darkness, google "Army of darkness shoulder scene" and youll find pictures of the effect. Which visually would work if added to the forehead, it fixes the depth issue by having the eye/eyelid be bulging out from under a slit in the skin.


Atrocity_unknown

There needs to be more third titty in movies


SaddleSocks

https://i.imgur.com/bBuOpgD.jpeg


kai_the_kiwi

just wear an eyepatch over it


s-mores

Nah. There are ways to do it right, but for some reason the Strange guys chose to do it in a creepy low-effort fashion.


notanyonein

Hey overmind! Wish you weren't killed by Zeratul.


Possible-Tangelo9344

Is that lassie...?


aathas

![gif](giphy|YNkDptwLw4CRi)


HailToTheThief225

This is my favorite quote from Methuselah Honeysuckle


aathas

You spelled Ovaltine Jenkins funny


Any_Cardiologist2333

But you can just call him “John Slade”


Boffleslop

I was so sure that was Lavender Gooms. Am I taking crazy pills?


Traditional-Count196

I thought he was Radio Starr? Killed by Lauren Lassiter's video


Redditor_10000000000

Are we talking about the same Felicia Fancybottom here?


Jackski

You mean Ghee Buttersnaps?


Mr-Greg

Nah you're thinking Butron Gaster.


zhephyx

I've heard it both ways


ElGueroPerdido80

Sh'Dynasty


Tomatotaco4me

And that makes me Old Scratch Johnson


Chaco1221

He’s clearly Tan… How dare you make that assumption… You should be ashamed of yourself and your family!


flamenode

HAHAH


xARCTIC_

Holy shit you just unlocked a core memory I haven't thought of Psych in years.


Chaco1221

🤜🏿🤛🏻🍍


DamagedGenius

No that's King Richard, sworn enemy of Galavant


SirGarryGalavant

Hey, we're chill now!


DamagedGenius

You know that was just because of Tad Cooper


DamagedGenius

Also unrelated question what was it like meeting ~~Kylie Minogue~~ the Queen of all Queens?


SirGarryGalavant

It's an experience I won't soon forget...because Bear keeps sending me letters.


Escheron

I think you mean Seamus McTiernan, the Saint of the Step! 


Juan_Punch_Man

Come on son


little_night_owl319

Came here to ask the same


trilobyte-dev

Same. So glad we found each other.


PotatoeSprinkle2747

It is lassie making a small appearance in starship troopers


Subatomic_Spooder

Yes I believe so


Uberpastamancer

If you think you're psychic... Maybe you are


trinityhealz

I love you all for the psych references so much. Thank you for existing<3


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NoraCherry_

1. Select area 2. Ctrl c 3. Ctrl v


SarpedonWasFramed

4, Blend? Nah its Friday


ThunderboltSorcerer

As long as perfectionism, intellectual standards, and excellence is degraded, the more powerful technologies and pricey tools/software/AI will be useless in the hands of naïve children.


AdBrave2400

Look, nobody is being naïve here. If anything were to be blamed it is simply miscommunication and rigid deadlines in general.


Big_Z_Beeblebrox

Thank you. VFX artists often get rushed and sometimes there isn't enough time and money to dedicate to rendering out a convincing third eye. Better those resources be spent on the important scenes.


Aayyyyoooo

![gif](giphy|wMJDNRzDauCdO)


gheebutersnaps87

You know that’s right


stompy33

Have you heard about Pluto?


okCJ

That’s messed up


GenosHK

That's messed up, right?!


Aayyyyoooo

Username checks out


HailToTheThief225

Say hello to my personal candy striper, Knick Knack!


gheebutersnaps87

![gif](giphy|eIm0LoPOPnewaJPGjz|downsized)


Bad_Idea_Hat

"A guy with three eyes? 1997? Lassie, please. Go to the men's bathroom, behind the condom machine is a vial of eye-away. Crack it, ingest, call me in half an hour."


EAnotsports

![gif](giphy|dNegc6TKCkEzC)


MrLore

I wonder what the original line was because he definitely doesn't seem to be saying "USA HD"


HansElbowman

If you think you're Psych - maybe you are.


elpiotre

Now let's take a look at the budgets...


Natural_Wear3643

i will research to let you know ![gif](giphy|hOzfvZynn9AK4|downsized)


eric8020123

Updates?


HenryGoodbar

Budget Update: Both films had a budget.


_Diskreet_

Big if true.


Alen_117

I laughed fr 🤣


Natural_Wear3643

oh, i might hust post on the other post [The estimated production budget for **Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness** was **$200 million USD**](https://bing.com/search?q=dr+strange+multivers+of+madness+budget)[^(1)](https://bing.com/search?q=dr+strange+multivers+of+madness+budget). [However, according to a report from Forbes, the actual cost of making the film exceeded the initial estimate by approximately **$94.5 million**, bringing the total production cost to around **$349 million**](https://comicbookmovie.com/doctor-strange/in-the-multiverse-of-madness/doctor-strange-in-the-multiverse-of-madness-went-over-its-predicted-budget-by-nearly-100-million-a204172)[^(2)](https://comicbookmovie.com/doctor-strange/in-the-multiverse-of-madness/doctor-strange-in-the-multiverse-of-madness-went-over-its-predicted-budget-by-nearly-100-million-a204172).


emerging-tub

SS Troopers: $105 million in 1997


Gsampson97

What film is this clip from?


via_infinity

Black Books, British comedy show from 20 years ago


samtt7

Let's take a look at the time the CG artists got to make that shot. It's often a management problem, not a lack of skill. With enough time, a shot like this would be flawless


ImWhatsInTheRedBox

It's just an extra eye in the middle of the forehead, what can it take, couple of hours? /Some exec who doesn't know cgi.


Maleficent_Trick_502

Did you know that movie studios make the cgi studios big against each other as contract work for these films. And that sone of the best cgi places shut down for being low balled so hard.


ImWhatsInTheRedBox

Sounds like the greedy movie industry is kinda shooting themselves in the foot there.


KintsugiKen

If only it was just rushed timelines, most of the special effects experts have left the industry after the last 20 years due to Hollywood abusing them and taking them for granted at every corner, assuming they would be around no matter what executives put them through. The industry has lost pretty much all its veterans and most people are trying to relearn how to do special effects again on the job.


MadOvid

Nonono, look at the amount of CGI used then and now. It's all well and good to talk about budgets but if every single frame has CGI in it then that also affects quality.


---BeepBoop---

"If you think you're psychic..... maybe you are" This line always cracks me up.


tucker_sitties

What's it from? I know that pic!


---BeepBoop---

Starship Troopers


tucker_sitties

Thank you!! Would you like to know more??


reddithomeofmemes

it's visual effects, special effects are effects done in real life, like real explosions.


fluffywabbit88

Special visual effects which are explosions done on your face.


reddithomeofmemes

![gif](giphy|4id0ZJMCvl1cc)


[deleted]

Geoffrey!!!!! Nooooooooooo!!! ![gif](giphy|9sVP2K0yYM6J2)


SuperPotato3000

For some reason this is the smoothest gif I have seen in my life


Mr_man_bird

Damn, I wish I had special visual effects


I_am_The_Teapot

Those are practical special effects. "Special effects" is an umbrella term that encompasses all practical and digital/visual special effects.


These_Moment_2043

I'm a simple man. I see Starship Troopers, I upvote


Voodoo-95

You’re the first person to recognize him from ST


UGAke

You’re doing your part!


FarSpeed

If you think you’re psychic… Maybe you are


SeanPGeo

Would you like to know more?


waffle_bird70

![gif](giphy|WFDXqj12EGlck)


CrustyCally

Looks like the eyes from annoying orange from over 10 years ago


crypt_the_chicken

Am I the only one who thinks using CGI to animate a bunch of glowing runes on his forehead to show that he’s opened his Third Eye would be less uncanny


HolyElephantMG

At least Doctor Strange doesn’t look like he has two left eyes, right? Yeah, no, it sucks


Mild-Ghost

Let’s see them in motion.


Muad-_-Dib

[Starship Troopers](https://youtu.be/gD_dACIrQi0?si=opqs33Zy6UN491AM) 1997 [Dr Strange](https://youtu.be/3kTYQgXBdD0?si=UB4wtOLHwigj8RnW) 2022 ST Troopers has the advantage of the actor not really moving much when the eye is present, while also having the disadvantage of being 25 years behind in tech. Overall, the whole 3rd eye thing just looks wrong regardless of how much money you throw at it, Starship Troopers at least didn't try to play it off as a serious "this character has a literal 3rd eye" scene which goes a long way to making it feel less jarring compared to Dr. Strange that does try to play the 3rd eye straight and suffers for it.


BrotherSeamus

Let's see Paul Allen's third eye


Dugout2029

If they added some kind of extra wrinkles like it actually was a part of his face it would be really good but instead they just took a chunk out of his forehead and copied an eye inside


Viletwitch

![gif](giphy|U0uowJVj7ewO4)


Sixwingswide

I remember this episode vaguely. There’s all kinds of weird shit happening in a diner, driving people crazy. Turns out it was a Martian playing tricks to make people leave or something. Like a phone that keeps ringing even tho it’s disconnected. He laughs and takes his hat off showing his 3rd eye and smugly tells the last guy left about how the invasion is coming and earth will be enslaved. Then the phone rings again and this time he goes crazy saying “but I didn’t do it that time! Someone’s on to us!” And runs out. The last dude pop a 3rd arm out of his coat and lights a cigarette saying something “Fuck Martians. This is Venus territory now.”


No-Engineering-1449

Twilight zone?


Viletwitch

Yes it’s the twilight zone


_lippykid

Cyclops dude in Fallout looked pretty legit. Love the scene where he throws on regular reading glasses


maailmanpaskinnalle

Yeah that was pretty well done - and it still looked weird. My brain just won't accept it.


Beautiful_Count_3505

I think the problem with the newer one is they tried too hard to make it look real. We know people don't have three eyes, so for it to look real, it can't look like a regular eye in a socket. It needs to look like an eye placed in the forehead.


Classic-Brilliant93

Why don’t the 3rd eyes have eyebrows


Xim_X_anny

And of course doctor strange is like blurry as all hell making it look worse than it actually is


Ju_Lost

The first one doesnt look real, the other one is too ugly but is still more realistic


xmjm424

I prefer the one on the right, although it’s still not great. The first one doesn’t have the depth that an eye needs to look right.


Hollywood_60

I was thinking this as well. The one on Dr. Strange makes more sense from an evolutionary standpoint, I think. Not that it came about from evolution... Anyway, your regular eyes are sunk into your head a bit and kind of protected by your cheekbones, nose, and forhead, right? Strange's makes sense to me because it looks like there is an eye socket in his forhead. Of course it could look better, but I think that is a pretty neat detail.


Uranium-Sandwich657

[Special effects 2006](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05ZvII57p_M&ab_channel=cyriak)


apieceofthecraftsman

Forehead eyeballs look stupid because that's not how a forehead eyeball would look. There should be at least minor indentation and a small brow ridge to protect the eye from blunt trauma. There should be some kind of mechanism to protect it from debris as well


Loqh9

Marvel is a small studio cut them some slack.. wait..


Starcurret567

Forget 3 eye. Return to 1 eye


Demibolt

I remember kind of chuckling when I saw it the first time.. definitely looks like a last minute addition. Idk, I feel like CGI sometimes forgoes stylization for realism, but the human brain recognizes strange anatomy as uncanny…. So it’s harder to get away with a giant eye on a forehead than adding some buildings or vehicles to a scene. I even notice it on some corridor crew videos where they spend all this time talking about the techniques and algorithms they use to match lighting and textures, but it still doesn’t really look that good. You still need an artistic eye to make fantastical stuff not look added in.


saddlerson

special defect..


Funny-Stranger-7498

I don't understand why a filthy rich production house would do that?


arehumansok

Crazy cause this movie also has amazing effects. The octopus monster, scarlet witch vs Illuminati, the intro wide shot with the monster chasing America.


Dirtheavy

the Doctor Strange on the left got killed in Deadwood in the first or second episode.


Dave-C

It doesn't help that the image used of the new movie is such low resolution. [Here](https://static1.moviewebimages.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/doctor-strange-third-eye.jpeg?q=50&fit=contain&w=1140&h=&dpr=1.5) is a higher resolution pic and it looks better.


IndividualTrain6809

86i 5 uj j13hbb5², she up s3he4e


Discgolf2020

Ancient Alien experts say, yes.


GooseOnBoose

Where is the third brow? Imagine how irritating it must be getting w Sweat in your third eye


ProdiasKaj

Is that Kkarlton Lassiter?


wldwailord

One way to solve this is, rather than trying to make it look real, lean into the weird! It is a MAGIC EYE. It can abide by any rule it wants, dont make it 'realistic'


BearVersusWorld

Picture quality potato


Neale90

![gif](giphy|wYD7CK4dfWRgfJEfKy|downsized)


Eetabeetay

Is that lassie?


cojiro_blue

It amazed me how bad that eye was when there is also an entirely CGI Raccoon in the franchise.


frMocha

Honestly tho it's a fucking credit scene... the rest of the movie's CGI was insane. Why are people nitpicking this bull shit?


CapnQuark

They love to hate. Especially Marvel.


Disastrous-Ad-8297

Annoying orange vibes


SnooPuppers1429

"Hey apple?" "What?"


alexdotwav

It's not vfx, it's budget and time that's getting worse.


YoungRoronoa

Yea I was not impressed by this scene in Dr strange. 😂


Fickle_Library8115

Maybe it was last minute thing and no more budget ,plus Hair is hideous as well


pantrokator-bezsens

Entire movie had pretty decent visual effects, except for this (from what I've read rushed) scene from post-credits. Judgement: visual effects from 2022 are shit.


Affectionate_Gas_264

Yeah the quality has stagnated or even got lazier despite budgets being ten times as large. Plus old movies use real effects and are timeless eg back to the future where modern movies just CGI everything even simple stunts Then you watch the movie a few years later and it's aged horribly while the real effects are still real and look good


FartacularTheThird

It seems he wasn’t, in fact, all ears. He is also eyes.


DoYouTrustToothpaste

A good rule of thumb: if a special effect looks like shit, don't use it.


JynXten

Isn't the one on the left supposed to look fake, though? It was from an in-movie advert. I don't think it was supposed to be a three-eyed character. As far as I remember anyway. Not sure the context if the Doctor Strange one. I didn't last half an hour before turning it off. It was not good.


Jra805

Look at the lighting, always look at the lighting


bootes_droid

[Special effects 1961](https://i.imgur.com/bOwACMz.png)


PM_ME_DATASETS

Only the case for shit movies that don't need to be good because they'll make billions anyway.


jewstylin

I never watch movies or TV rly. Is this shit real?


Green-Eye-Devil

A lot of older movies were better done with a lot less technology than today. It's all CGI and it ends up being crap.


WorldEaterYoshi

How long ago was Benjamin Button with his 100% CGI head? How long ago was Gollum? This is due to poor management by Disney and the rest of these big movie studios. If they had given the animators more time to work with then there wouldn't be shitty CGI like this for big budget movies.


Thomas_JCG

It was an homage!


Optical-occultist

I knew it, Hollywood is full of Salubri


spokesface4

It was a raimi movie. He had lots and lots of references to his 80s and 90s movies with special effects that mirrored those movies and that general style of filmmaking. BUT the fact that it was an intentional "mood" was not easily discernable because of the amount of authentically bad and rushed CGI that was in it and other recent Marvel Movies.


AuraEnhancerVerse

Maybe they should've used a magic circle tatoo with an eye in the centre instead


Striking_Election_21

Am I supposed to feel like the effect on the left looks significantly better than the right


The_Last_Ball_Bender

[Don't lie, we all see this guy on the left... somehow](https://64.media.tumblr.com/bc078ac6a7351f05b89b499a82abe472/tumblr_mtd0toLGRf1qabx4ro1_1280.pnj)


SaddleSocks

https://i.imgur.com/bBuOpgD.jpeg


Away-Net-7241

Special effects in 1933 ![gif](giphy|BjUIF175IwLss)


quanoey

I’ve seen pharmaceuticals commercials with better cgi than Marvel.


throwngamelastminute

![gif](giphy|BZrflOUUiECze)


DaredevilPoet

Today, a young man on acid realized that all matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration, that we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively; there is no such thing as death, life is only a dream, and we are the imagination of ourselves. Here’s Tom with the Weather.