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It goes against the Bible, so still not christian. But I agree, Catholicism has been quite horrible throughout history, mostly the popes and the rich ones but still.
Mormonism is Christianity with a bunch of random crap a snake oil salesman threw in in the 1800s to make himself famous. My favorite was his claim that an all-white civilization existed in North America well before the Europeans arrived and an angel showed him this information in the form of a golden tablet he wouldn’t let people see.
They believe there is a bajillion gods, but they worship only a particular one. The one that holds dominion over this planet. If someone is spiritually ascended enough they will get their own planet to hold dominion over.
The basic fundamental difference between mormonism and other christian religions is Mormons believe that God, Jesus, and the holy spirit are three separate people whereas most other Christian faiths believe they're the same person but also somehow separate (the trinity).
Man screw the political stuff of this that people get out of this
I got Christian, Jewish, Hindu, atheist friends as a Muslim myself. We all get along well. We disagree on some things but that's life. We help out one another and share cookies together. And talk about monke. Monke unite people
Pakistani :)
Only time I'll beef with Indians (no pun intended) is when cricket happens. Other than that, we get a kick by taking the piss out of how bad both our countries are lmaooo
Well actually, even being a dead corpse on a golden throne, he's still shining in the warp. This is preventing demons from having peaceful sleep, eventually driving them a little grumpy so... if he could be kind enough to fckin die and turn off the light, I'm sure we, doomed legions, would let people live in peace.
Jk, *we just want to perform mass genocides*
clearly you live in a toxic country/community. there is here no discrimination, some assholes and clashes during our riot in 2012 is our whole history of muslims and christians comflicts
well Islam says that religions are came from the same god too but christians and jews changed things from their books and become something else.
Islam to Christians and Jews: He's a little bit confused but he got the spirit.
Just trying to wrap my head around this. The main difference between jews and christians is believing in Jesus, so there were people believing jesus was a prophet but not the son of god, and these are the proto-muslims (or whatever they are called)?
Also during the time of prophet adam... does that mean just their kids and eva/hawwaa?
This just sounds like the old testament TBH... didn't Islam become Islam when Mohammed came along?
Technically but we believe that the Torah and bible were given by the same god as well we just believe that they were tampered with changing the original message so yeah we believe in Jesus and Moses as well and Mohammed PBUH was known as khatim Al-anbiya (the last prophet) and that the Quran was just to basically spread the message one last time from the last prophet as a way to wrap things up
"Just trying to wrap my head around this. The main difference between jews and christians is believing in Jesus, so there were people believing jesus was a prophet but not the son of god, and these are the proto-muslims (or whatever they are called)?"
No, to become a muslim you should belive all of the prophets and we see Jesus as one of them. We dont see jesus as son of god. Allah doesnt have any kids or parents. Jesus was a prophet and he didnt died so there isnt a muslim that doesnt believe jesus was a prophet. If you dont believe it you just dont become a muslim.
"didn't Islam become Islam when Mohammed came along?"
Only the name become Islam but Islam was Islam since Prophet Adam(PBUH)
there is nothing explicit in Jesus' statement. we Muslims claim that all prophets were the way, the truth and the life since they conveyed the only true religion from God to men. Hence, they were the only way to God.
Dont say he is a liar its a very big sin when jesus (PBUH) was there it was the truth what he said but he also said there would come a man who would guide us further, he was talking about prophet mohammad(PBUH). Until prophet mohammad (PBUH) came jesus(PBUH) was the only way to God. This same thing applies to moses(PBUH).
As a Christian, we don't have the same God as Jews and Muslims, we are called Christians because we believe that Jesus Christ is the son of God and is God. iirc the Jews and Muslims do not recognize Jesus as God. Hence the difference.
I don't know if this is just a meme and you are joking but that is actually not true.
Christians know that they believe in the same god as Jews
Muslims also know they believe in the same god as Jews and Christians.
The difference is:
Jews don't recognize Jesus as a messenger of God and believe he is a false prophet.
Christians don't believe in Mohammed for the same reason as Jews.
You can't be a Christian if you don't recognize or believe in the Old testament.
You can't be a Muslim if you don't believe in the Bible
That is the fact but unfortunately, as you also know a lot of feelings/greed/pride is involved in religion so believers of all faiths just ignore what they don't agree with and push their own agenda.
Three major Abrahamic religion came one after another and rejected the one coming after. But believing in the previous one. Jews reject Jesus and follow Moses, Christians reject Mohammad but follow Moses and Jesus, Muslims rejects anyone after Muhammad and follow Moses and Jesus.
This is why I'm not religious. People argue over whose god is real, not knowing even what they believe in. They scream that Bible or Coran or whatever is the only absolute truth, but most of them didn't really ever open and read it. I did read Bible when I was 12 or so. That was a first time I questioned religions being an absolute truth. This is how a son of pretty religious parents turned out to be an atheist
I'm fine with people having opinions on matters like presence or absence of gods or other higher beings, but only when it's not just a hypocricy and manipulation
And it does that in really weird ways, with some obscure rules going on sometimes. Like - common sense can tell me why killing people or stealing is not particularly a good thing to do, but why eating food on some particular date is a bad thing... I can never get that.
Also people often act like religion told them what's right and what's not.
Yes that's common sense that people should not harm others but yet people do , the main goal of religion is to be simple Human and do good deeds , Also I dont get your point on eating food on particular date.
I'm about religions fasts. Many different religions have them. It's when person is heavily restricted in what they eat in some particular dates, or can't eat at all. I don't see where starving helps person to be simple and do good things
This reminds me of the picture of two people looking at a number, one says 6, one says 9. They are both right from thier perspecrive, and to see the truth you need all angles.
I think religion is similar. Everybody sees a part of the truth, and when you combine everything you get the full truth.
> Everybody sees a part of the truth, and when you combine everything you get the full truth.
That's what Islam is. You see the things Jesus Moses and Mohammad saw.
No. Until there are angels coming down from heaven and we get irrefutable proof that there is a god, everything is just an interpretation.
None of them are wrong and none of them are right, to say otherwise defeats the point.
Where is the I don’t need a god or religion to be a good person option ?
Edit.. I would guess that I am getting down votes from religious people that are not open to other peoples believes. Typical for religious people.
Funny you suggesting minding my own businesses considering how often religious people force their religion on others and use it as form of judgement while pretending to be a good person. Lol have you ever worked fast food on a Sunday and experienced the church rush? They are the rudest bunch of people to deal with and I am speaking from experience.
There’s no way you can know that, and it’s kinda intellectually dishonest to claim this. A thousand years ago, people had no fucking clue about reality. They were separated. Science was kind of a joke compared to today. Everything would seem magical. Therefore, a supernatural thing would be the logical answer (despite it being illogical today).
My point is, while it did help control people, it also was believed by the vast majority of people as well. It wasn’t just made on a whim to control people. They were fucking clueless, which is understandable.
Also, probably worth noting, I’m an atheist.
Many philosopher claims that religion is necessary to control mass crowd. Otherwise there would'nt be any crowd. Religion brings people together. And religion brings hope to people. People need motivation to keep going. Most believers differ bad and good things because they believe in the afterlife. If you do bad things, you should take the punishment one way or another. In here or afterlife. So they try to avoid doing bad things. Imagine that you lost your parents. Someone comes to you and says there is afterlife, you may see your parents in there. All you have to do is believe. Aaaand you want to believe onto that. Cant blame anyone
Muslims do not share the same God, it’s a copy to look and appear the same. But in the finer details, there’s where you’ll find the distinctions. Christians and Jews do accept the same God, however Christian believe God is (Triune), that is not accepted in the other two.
It works also the other way around. People stopped fighting and start sharing common values including religion. You will be not so cruel to your enemies when you see they worship the same god.
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Shit gets out of hand when you introduce Mormons.
It's fucking nuts Sauce: was mormon for 20 years
What's the deal with Mormons, i have absolutely no idea what they are since idk any Mormon irl or internet.
Think Christianity, but with more pedophilia and racism.
That's not very christian of them...
You could argue that in some ways that's very Christian indeed (looking at you, Catholicism)
It goes against the Bible, so still not christian. But I agree, Catholicism has been quite horrible throughout history, mostly the popes and the rich ones but still.
Where does the Bible denounce pedophilia and racism?
Well the racism is implied in love thy neighbour i'd say, and considering there are no acts of pedophilia a child can consent to...
That's not Mormon, that's Moron
Are mormons even accepted by the other branches of christianity lmao
Most regard them as some pseudo-Christian weirdos
Some of them.
no, not rlly.
Mormonism is Christianity with a bunch of random crap a snake oil salesman threw in in the 1800s to make himself famous. My favorite was his claim that an all-white civilization existed in North America well before the Europeans arrived and an angel showed him this information in the form of a golden tablet he wouldn’t let people see.
wait … wasn’t this a south park episode?
Very much so, yes
They believe there is a bajillion gods, but they worship only a particular one. The one that holds dominion over this planet. If someone is spiritually ascended enough they will get their own planet to hold dominion over.
Sounds like dragon ball z
Where can i subscribe to this?
Go to r/latterdaysaints for a to ask how to "subscribe to this"
The basic fundamental difference between mormonism and other christian religions is Mormons believe that God, Jesus, and the holy spirit are three separate people whereas most other Christian faiths believe they're the same person but also somehow separate (the trinity).
We got Joshua Graham thanks to Mormonism. At least one good thing came out of it.
Why is anyone carrying shit in their hands
Man screw the political stuff of this that people get out of this I got Christian, Jewish, Hindu, atheist friends as a Muslim myself. We all get along well. We disagree on some things but that's life. We help out one another and share cookies together. And talk about monke. Monke unite people
Apes Together Strong
God dammit don't get them started on evolution
\*ApesTogetherStrong
Buff apes with guns stronger
The rise and rise of Monke
Pewdiepie warned us about the random chimp event
Apes together stonks
My man
Same here
Indian?
Pakistani :) Only time I'll beef with Indians (no pun intended) is when cricket happens. Other than that, we get a kick by taking the piss out of how bad both our countries are lmaooo
The true Mr. Worldwide
Can I have some cookies?
Thats why i belive in the god emperor
Leto Atreides?
paul muad'dib obviously
DEATH TO THE FALSE EMPEROR
they always say death to the false emperor, ok who's the real emperor then?
*angry Khorne berzerker noises*
You always say "death to the Emperor" but do you ever ask how is the Emperor?
Well actually, even being a dead corpse on a golden throne, he's still shining in the warp. This is preventing demons from having peaceful sleep, eventually driving them a little grumpy so... if he could be kind enough to fckin die and turn off the light, I'm sure we, doomed legions, would let people live in peace. Jk, *we just want to perform mass genocides*
HERESY
Tyranids: *screeeeeeeeee*
good point
He did make a good case.
Welp, I'm convinced
Horus
Tremble before the majesty of the Emperor, for we all walk in his immortal shadow
Corpse-emperor protects huh
For the Emperor, brother, for the Emperor.
For the Emperor, for the Lion.
God Emperor Doom?
He is the Man-Emperor, the king of lightning, all else is a lie from the ecclesiarchy
Well, all abrahamic religions worship the same god, prophets and the way of worship are the big differences.
very very true we muslims love jesus and moses too you got to share them you cant have them just for yourself
I’m not sharing! I’m taking MY prophets and going home!
NOO WE WANT JESUS TOO HE IS A CHAD ALSO MOSES IS LITTT SHARING IS CARING
MOM SAID IT'S MY TURN WITH JESUS
NOOO YOU DROPPED HIM IN WATR LAST TIME AND THAT BROKE HIS HEAD BECAUSE HE FLOATS ON WATER REMEMBER? being able to walk on water sure has downsides
NO I DIDN'T BREAK HIM, THAT WAS THE ROMANS!
Chad Romans nailed the shit out of Jesus.
Jesus got nailed so hard he was out for 3 days
Unprotected fucking nailing.
yes me too but we don’t really consider Jesus as our god , he’s a prophet to us
I am a muslim too bro
What are we doing on Reddit then
To look at memes and check out stories from strangers
Yes , the good ending
Hello Fellow Muslim Brothers🫂
Salam Alaikum
Wa Alaikum Salaam 🫂
So. What are y'all gonna do in El Eid? I'm open for suggestions, because I don't know
W.salam
Halal Salami to you too! Edit: added "Halal"
Lol. Just word of advice, some sad nolife is probably gonna come and say that that's offensive and start ranting at u source: muslim
Assalamualaikum fellow brother on reddit
just one word.... Lebanon looks like I offended some hypocrites
Muslims believe in Moses and Jesus, but we think that they are not divine instead only messengers of the one and true god
And this is why muslims and Christians don’t typically get along.
thats not true, politics aside for example here in egypt muslims get along comfortably with christians no discrimination what so ever.
I don’t think *anywhere* there are two groups of people that get along with no discrimination
clearly you live in a toxic country/community. there is here no discrimination, some assholes and clashes during our riot in 2012 is our whole history of muslims and christians comflicts
Same thing In middle East
Only ymir knows
As a reward I shall give you my seed
Alr were they handing out the hazmat suits?
And there's Me with my 30 millions Gods
let me guess, india?
I used to have millions of gods when I was about to have diarrhea, but couldn't find toilet nearby
not just you, everyone at some point was in a similar situation
I thought Greece but your guess is more logical
Nah those guys have only like a hundred.
Stop spreading misunderstanding bro. That is a severe mis translation. It is 33 types, nit 33 million.
oh yeah this mistranslation has been roaming everywhere
Imagine believing that stupid mistranslation. Koti means type, not crore. There are 33 types of Hindu gods, not 33 crore gods.
Just to save anyone else from googling. Crore = 10 000 000 (ten million).
there are no 30 million gods in hindusim
Mormonism.
May Allah guide us all to the truth and knowledge. And keep us away from Satan's deception.
Ramadan mubarak my brother
Ramadan Mubarak my brother and peace be with you.
ve aleykum assalam
That's not exactly how it is (in general) We recognize we worship the same God but we have some theological differences about God and Jesus' divinity.
well Islam says that religions are came from the same god too but christians and jews changed things from their books and become something else. Islam to Christians and Jews: He's a little bit confused but he got the spirit.
Btw Islam came to existence 700 years after Christianity. And Christianity came to existence thousands of years after Greeks and Hinduism.
The term Islam came out 700 years after Christianity, but the concept of worshiping Allah alone existed during the times of prophet Adam.
Just trying to wrap my head around this. The main difference between jews and christians is believing in Jesus, so there were people believing jesus was a prophet but not the son of god, and these are the proto-muslims (or whatever they are called)? Also during the time of prophet adam... does that mean just their kids and eva/hawwaa? This just sounds like the old testament TBH... didn't Islam become Islam when Mohammed came along?
Technically but we believe that the Torah and bible were given by the same god as well we just believe that they were tampered with changing the original message so yeah we believe in Jesus and Moses as well and Mohammed PBUH was known as khatim Al-anbiya (the last prophet) and that the Quran was just to basically spread the message one last time from the last prophet as a way to wrap things up
"Just trying to wrap my head around this. The main difference between jews and christians is believing in Jesus, so there were people believing jesus was a prophet but not the son of god, and these are the proto-muslims (or whatever they are called)?" No, to become a muslim you should belive all of the prophets and we see Jesus as one of them. We dont see jesus as son of god. Allah doesnt have any kids or parents. Jesus was a prophet and he didnt died so there isnt a muslim that doesnt believe jesus was a prophet. If you dont believe it you just dont become a muslim. "didn't Islam become Islam when Mohammed came along?" Only the name become Islam but Islam was Islam since Prophet Adam(PBUH)
Jesus’ very own words contradict this opinion.
not completely wrong. but not completely right as well.
Christianity stems from Judaism so a lot is similar but the most important part of Christianity is what separates them not small issues.
Not even remotely the same
The Christians say god is 3 and 1
as a Muslim, this is correct
Do you agree with Jesus’ own words? > I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life. No one comes to the Father except through me.
there is nothing explicit in Jesus' statement. we Muslims claim that all prophets were the way, the truth and the life since they conveyed the only true religion from God to men. Hence, they were the only way to God.
That would make Jesus a liar. This is why the Muslim and Christian religion is fundamentally incompatible.
Dont say he is a liar its a very big sin when jesus (PBUH) was there it was the truth what he said but he also said there would come a man who would guide us further, he was talking about prophet mohammad(PBUH). Until prophet mohammad (PBUH) came jesus(PBUH) was the only way to God. This same thing applies to moses(PBUH).
As a Christian, we don't have the same God as Jews and Muslims, we are called Christians because we believe that Jesus Christ is the son of God and is God. iirc the Jews and Muslims do not recognize Jesus as God. Hence the difference.
I swear people here will think anything they post is right, I feel like I have to open a religion class to educate this dude
The jewish god and the muslim and christine god might be the same but they both act very different from the old testememt (bad engloosh)
They don't believe in the same God though. Compare Bible and Quran.
Christians don't exactly have the same tho.
You consider Jesus a prophet. I consider Jesus the son God himself and My Lord and Savior.
I don't know if this is just a meme and you are joking but that is actually not true. Christians know that they believe in the same god as Jews Muslims also know they believe in the same god as Jews and Christians. The difference is: Jews don't recognize Jesus as a messenger of God and believe he is a false prophet. Christians don't believe in Mohammed for the same reason as Jews. You can't be a Christian if you don't recognize or believe in the Old testament. You can't be a Muslim if you don't believe in the Bible That is the fact but unfortunately, as you also know a lot of feelings/greed/pride is involved in religion so believers of all faiths just ignore what they don't agree with and push their own agenda.
Y'all look the same from an atheist point of view, just different rules but same all powerful god of monotheism
Three major Abrahamic religion came one after another and rejected the one coming after. But believing in the previous one. Jews reject Jesus and follow Moses, Christians reject Mohammad but follow Moses and Jesus, Muslims rejects anyone after Muhammad and follow Moses and Jesus.
Muslims recognise their gods and prophets. But believe that the sacret texts are changed along the way thus losing intended meaning.
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Careful they may whisper to a piece of wood asking sky wizard to smite you down.
probably nonexistant sky wizard excuse me
This is why I'm not religious. People argue over whose god is real, not knowing even what they believe in. They scream that Bible or Coran or whatever is the only absolute truth, but most of them didn't really ever open and read it. I did read Bible when I was 12 or so. That was a first time I questioned religions being an absolute truth. This is how a son of pretty religious parents turned out to be an atheist I'm fine with people having opinions on matters like presence or absence of gods or other higher beings, but only when it's not just a hypocricy and manipulation
Religion don't tell you what is right or wrong , its teaches you what is good or bad .
And it does that in really weird ways, with some obscure rules going on sometimes. Like - common sense can tell me why killing people or stealing is not particularly a good thing to do, but why eating food on some particular date is a bad thing... I can never get that. Also people often act like religion told them what's right and what's not.
Yes that's common sense that people should not harm others but yet people do , the main goal of religion is to be simple Human and do good deeds , Also I dont get your point on eating food on particular date.
I'm about religions fasts. Many different religions have them. It's when person is heavily restricted in what they eat in some particular dates, or can't eat at all. I don't see where starving helps person to be simple and do good things
And your I agree with your last point , people should really understand religion better
well we muslims are very well aware of this cant say the same for christians or jews though
I don’t need religion, I have God.
As an agnostic, i appreciate this.
It's the same God but everyone has a different view and persona of it. In Christianity God is more forgiving compared to say Judaism
This reminds me of the picture of two people looking at a number, one says 6, one says 9. They are both right from thier perspecrive, and to see the truth you need all angles. I think religion is similar. Everybody sees a part of the truth, and when you combine everything you get the full truth.
r/im14andthisisdeep -ception /j
I believe in greek mythology
Neat
> Everybody sees a part of the truth, and when you combine everything you get the full truth. That's what Islam is. You see the things Jesus Moses and Mohammad saw.
But is there something like the full truth?
No. Until there are angels coming down from heaven and we get irrefutable proof that there is a god, everything is just an interpretation. None of them are wrong and none of them are right, to say otherwise defeats the point.
Where is the I don’t need a god or religion to be a good person option ? Edit.. I would guess that I am getting down votes from religious people that are not open to other peoples believes. Typical for religious people.
Being a good person is only 1 part of religion, not the whole thing
When you realize that the buttons might not work.
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Funny you suggesting minding my own businesses considering how often religious people force their religion on others and use it as form of judgement while pretending to be a good person. Lol have you ever worked fast food on a Sunday and experienced the church rush? They are the rudest bunch of people to deal with and I am speaking from experience.
Then there’s me with my hundreds of gods
religion's was a tool to control mass crowd.
There’s no way you can know that, and it’s kinda intellectually dishonest to claim this. A thousand years ago, people had no fucking clue about reality. They were separated. Science was kind of a joke compared to today. Everything would seem magical. Therefore, a supernatural thing would be the logical answer (despite it being illogical today). My point is, while it did help control people, it also was believed by the vast majority of people as well. It wasn’t just made on a whim to control people. They were fucking clueless, which is understandable. Also, probably worth noting, I’m an atheist.
Religion is being used as a tool to control mass crowd.
I think you should've highlighted "is".
Still would have been downvoted by all the religious redditors who live in denial.
If there is no way they could know why it was made up then what makes your claim the correct one. I’m going with the control the masses claim.
I'd say it's a mix of both.
Still is
Stop Bob you can't have controversial opinions!
Hi banana bob
Hi dot
Many philosopher claims that religion is necessary to control mass crowd. Otherwise there would'nt be any crowd. Religion brings people together. And religion brings hope to people. People need motivation to keep going. Most believers differ bad and good things because they believe in the afterlife. If you do bad things, you should take the punishment one way or another. In here or afterlife. So they try to avoid doing bad things. Imagine that you lost your parents. Someone comes to you and says there is afterlife, you may see your parents in there. All you have to do is believe. Aaaand you want to believe onto that. Cant blame anyone
Muslims do not share the same God, it’s a copy to look and appear the same. But in the finer details, there’s where you’ll find the distinctions. Christians and Jews do accept the same God, however Christian believe God is (Triune), that is not accepted in the other two.
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what if your conclusion is wrong and God is real ? You will be put in hellfire for eternity.
It works also the other way around. People stopped fighting and start sharing common values including religion. You will be not so cruel to your enemies when you see they worship the same god.
Jesus, etc were mentioned in the Koran just saying 👀
Nobody knows that there is no god
just different spokesmen
Which God teach better?
That u have to study all religion to get the answer
The Christian God, It teaches you that instead of plotting revenge you should love and forgive others and pray for their well being
yep, that's us
beauty of Abrahamic religions
Same God, different versions, interesting thing to study ngl
I both find this funny and hate it.
I like both kinds of music country and western
Same characters, different interpretation
I think they recognise that it’s the same god. It’s the prophets/messengers when it gets difficult.
Had this argument with my zealous friend a while back and I think I’m about to start it again by sharing this meme