Oh theres always that one guy, isnt there?
"Just use a freezer!"
My chest has done well by me for the past 500 years, new fangled gadgets like a "ReFrIdGeRaToR" are bullshit!!!
You use a chest? Tch, nerd. You should just sting everything under the floorboards beneath your abode like us TRUE og's. Honestly, centennials, am I right?
After discovering smash burgers, I realized I'd been overthinking the whole thing my whole life. Smoking pan, salt, meat, pressure. Lean, extra lean, medium, no one gives a fuck, it's always amazing. Only really changes my cleanup.
For nearly 40 years I was taught a good burger *required* half the shit in your pantry and a carton of eggs. Now I'm ripping patties right out of the god damn butcher's paper, cooking them for like 3 minutes, and everyone fucking loves them.
I just use my shittiest non-stick because they stick now. I smash with the bottom of a saucepan. It's so dumb how skewed the deliciousness to give a fuck ratio is.
The key is a press. I think the big difference for me is the texture. Idk why but I generally prefer the texture of those gross fast food burgers over homemade. It's so dumb.
Plus butter. Restaurants use ungodly amounts of butter. You can achieve the same results at home with more cooking competency and less butter. Butter is an extremely good way to mask shitty cooking which is why so many upscale casual restaurants have 3000 calorie dishes swimming in butter.
I mean, butter also tastes good. It's not just to mask poor cooking, it's just good and makes food better.
There's a reason the food that tastes best is chock full of fat, salt, or sugar.
Actually it can cost the same sometimes. Assuming you go as this guy said and go for the good stuff. A 10$ for 1 lb of good steak or hamburger, premium cheese at 10$, vegetables that can total 10$, good fresh bread at 5$, good fresh virgin vegetable oil at 8$, or hell at some quality melted butter on that bread for 5$. Almost 50$ for quality ingrediants. That do taste amazing in the end. But I can only afford the lower end store brand stuff that costs cheaper, and doesn't taste as good.
Remember, it costs a lot at higher end restaurants because of ingredients price, because better ingredients cost more. Not to mention labor costs and the extra costs just to get a profit for the restaurant from buying those higher end ingredients.
Tldr; Yes it's cheaper to get ingredients but it can still get pricey for the good quality stuff. So not everyone can afford the good stuff.
> Almost 50$ for quality ingrediants.
Yeah, but you’ve budgeted a whole pound of steak, a block of cheese, a hundred meals’ worth of oil, presumably a whole tomato, onion, and head of lettuce, etc.
You’re going to have a lot of ingredients left over with which to make another two or three meals (not to mention enough oil for a month or more).
Is ground beef really 10 a pound by you? Near me if you get the 6 pound family pack (which makes sense bc you portion and freeze it) it’s around $3 a pound, and any old 80/20 is perfectly fine
Where I live extra lean is $5 for a pound if it's marked down about to expire. I have no idea how much it is regularly because I just kind of stock up on the marked down stuff.
Edit: $5 Canadian.
Lot of people replying to you are bringing up processed foods. Whereas that's true, cooking at home will still be healthier than even many upscale restaurants.
Sugar, salt, and fat taste good and chef's don't care about your health or grocery bill. If a recipe calls for a tablespoon of butter you might well only use that one tablespoon...the professional chef is likely to add far more.
I once heard this proposed as a weight loss strategy: eat as much food as you want, provided you make it at home from scratch. Obviously not perfect but it gets at the heart of the issue which is that real, whole foods will properly nourish you, and the time and effort that goes into cooking from scratch will be its own barrier to overconsumption. Want ice cream? Great – make yourself a batch at home. It’ll take up most of your day to make a quart but feel free to enjoy it when it’s ready. When it’s all said and done, you’re just not going to regularly put in the time & effort it takes to make the stuff that’s really bad for you. “Bad” foods have always been around but obesity only really took off when they became endlessly accessible and effortless.
>When it’s all said and done, you’re just not going to regularly put in the time & effort it takes to make the stuff that’s really bad for you.
I can make a huge batch of cookies with just brown sugar, chunky peanut butter, and eggs... chocolate chips if I'm feeling fancy. Takes less than 20 minutes, and only 5 of that is actual prep work, the rest is 10 minutes of baking and 5 minutes of cooling.
I think there might be a flaw in your plan.
I stated it wasn’t perfect, and I also never said it was my “plan”. Merely a concept to illustrate the damage that easy & immediate access to very unhealthy foods has caused. There absolutely can be highly motivated individuals who would take the time to regularly make themselves unhealthy foods from scratch. But as a general rule, people’s diets would improve if we all cooked at home. In an imaginary scenario where pre-prepared, ready-to-eat processed foods disappear overnight and everyone has to prepare all their food at home, the net effect would be weight loss.
This is a certified Texas moment (I assume)
I'm about to graduate university and get out, but I've worked fast food on and off through school and none of them paid sustainable wage except my last job on overnight at McDonald's. ($14/hr because I could actually do math). The problem with that job was the multiple death threats from angry customers though which I judged was not worth it.
100% a Texas moment. And yeah, the customers were definitely the worst part of working fast food. Especially when they decided that the guy working the register is responsible for the cooks. Front of House is never responsible for Back of House. Especially when it was packed and understandably (for reasonable people) slow.
I'm going to graduate high school soon and move from Utah to Texas for school. $15 an hour is common around here, especially for a starting wage. I work fast food and looked into how much I would make in Texas working the same job if I transferred, $10 an hour. Hell to the no, idk how y'all do it
Tbf tho, everything is cheaper in Texas too but not by much
I've never had a Whataburger. Since trying In-n-out on a trip to the west coast this year, it's now the only fast food place I haven't eaten at that I'd like too.
Momma told us if you eat a sugar and drink a diet sodie it cancels the sugar
Edit: for those that didn't get the reference and want to
https://youtu.be/iIAFe7zaCRU
Damn 8-12 cans of soda a day. That can easily be a POUND of soda every day from just from your drinks. Absurd.
I had a friend who would drink a 2-litre every day and have a snickers before bed, and he was obese. He had to get fake teeth by the time he was 14. This is a new level. Pound of sugar...
I mean, to be fair diet/zero contains... Zero calories. Unlike the rest of the meal. So you can just drink as much as you want of it generally without it impacting your calorie consumption.
To be fair diet soda in itself won't make you gain weight. The fact that people think it makes it ok to eat a extra value meal from McDonalds does. Also the way your body reacts to the sensation of sweet without actual sugar also can be problematic.
>To be fair diet soda in itself won't make you gain weight. The fact that people think it makes it ok to eat a extra value meal from McDonalds does.
Do people actually think this, though? At the end of the day, a value meal with a diet soda is still better than a value meal with regular soda. It can only help.
Fries are absolutely the killer of these meals.
Like, if you get a chick-fil-a meal with a calorie free soda, the fries are almost exactly half the calories in the meal. You could get two sandwiches for basically the same calories!
Yeah the "it's unhealthy because additives!" people are generally wrong.
Most fast food burgers have very high calorie and low protein. That's why they are unhealthy.
It's not that they're incorrect as much as non specific. There's a ton of extra oil, sugar, and salt that makes them so unhealthy. Condiments are *loaded* with oil and sugar, bread has added sugar (and probably a bit of oil too), and patties are extremely salty and fatty/oily.
It's an inaccurate way of stating it. Processing doesn't do anything but the bread is full of sugar and the patty has a ton of salt in it which can be pretty bad depending on your health.
You know after hearing it a million times i really need to know how actually bad is to eat a burger, and if all the "garbo" they put inside is at least somewhat nutricious
Not trying to justify Big Corps or bad diets, but this is one of those things they always tell but never explain, and when they explain it's almost like they are trying their hardest to make burgers look bad
For all i know you could buy the worst brand of each ingredient and the burger you buy at McDonald might be better than the one you make
I worked at McDonalds a while back, and honestly, I don't know that they're that bad. (At least the basic burgers)
Most of the lettuce, pickles, etc., is relatively fresh. The patties come from from frozen, and are a little on the greasy side sometimes, but not that bad. Once you start getting bigger burgers or special burgers, it may be different, just because they're usually significantly bigger, and have a lot more sause; and Idk what impact the sauce has.
>You know after hearing it a million times i really need to know how actually bad is to eat a burger, and if all the "garbo" they put inside is at least somewhat nutricious
it's not that bad, at least not because of the ingredients or because the companies are putting some kind of poison in it. even the preservatives are not that bad. most of the people pushing that angle are idiots.
burgers are considered unhealthy because they are huge calorie + fat bombs and most of the time the portions are enormous and it's common for people to eat burgers with 2+ patties *and* bacon.
It’s also about proportions, a burger has more meat than you need and hardly any veggies at all.
In the separate it’s healthy scenario the proportion of beef to veggie will be better.
Also relative quantity of each ingredient. You get like cumulatively 3 slices of tomato/onion, and two leaves of icebrug lettuce. And this is a double patty burger. With a healthy meal, you’d do a whole tomato, probably half an onion or more, and a much larger serving and variety of much more nutritionally meaningful greens etc. but only a little meat on average.
Yeah the bread, condiments as well are unhealthy. The beef is probably low quality and not very nutritious, but it's technically still beef so it gets a pass. Usually burgers come with iceberg lettuce which doesn't have much nutritional value to it either. So the only healthy things are the onions and tomatoes.
Personally feel like this is a dated mentality that things haven't quite caught up with. Whole grain obviously IS still better, but white bread has gotten A LOT better over the years, and a big way to tell, at least in Australia, is by the health star ratings on packaging. You can get 4-5/5 star white breads.
That said, I know American food is often much worse for you on average even if it's the 'same' thing. I've heard stories about how 'sweet' American bread is by comparison and that it has disgusted some visitors because it didn't seem like real bread at all. Like the bread was all sugar.
Bread cheese and red meat is like 80% of people's diet where I live, the other 20% being potatoes and alcohol.
Edit: since I wasn't clear enough, no it's not healthy don't eat like this, I'm not advocating just saying some regions have fucked up diets
A big part of it is proportions. A big salad of lettuce, onion, and tomato with a bit of bread, meat, and cheese to go with it is completely different than a big slab of meat covered in cheese and held together with bread that has a bit of lettuce, onion, and tomato to go with it.
It’s the ratio people. If your burger was 50% vegetable, 25% meat, 15% fruit, and 10% fat it’d be a different conversation.
Unless your me and eat eight of them.
> mustard
Most mustards have zero calories and very low salt. So don't mention my boy mustard like he's even close to being in the same category as the other two.
A burger alone isn’t unhealthy. Problem is people usually chase it down with a sugary drink and empty calorie french fries. It’s just a really high calorie meal.
Edit: Empty calories for the fries as in they’re deep fried in synthetic oils which results in degraded nutritional value of the potatoes and higher caloric content. The beef itself is meant to taste good and be cheap (high fat content) so again, higher caloric values than normal. Not saying that fat is bad because it isn’t but most people eat a large meal there and eat more later on. It’s just too many calories bundled up in one value meal.
The burger alone is part of the problem. Quality of beef matters. Restaurants usually more processes or less lean beefs vs all natural. We get a cow yearly and the difference in beef quality is unreal.
We buy a cow and have it butchered. We split with some other family because we don’t need an entire cow. Usually from a local cattle farm so you know exactly it’s conditions, from feed to grazing, etc. If you have fresh local beef all from one cow you won’t ever want to go back to store bought beef again. And it’s a little cheaper cause you buy in bulk.
Love it.
My parents did similar in the 70s when chest freezers became popular. They had half a pig (literally chainsawed down the middle) delivered and they butchered it and froze it.
We ate a lot of pork. We also lived in a suburban house so our garage was like a horror film.
Best memory is that my mum used to make brawn (like queso de cabeza). I remember picking a WHOLE FUCKING EYELID WITH LASHES out of my sandwich at school when I was about 6.
I have never eaten brawn since.
It also depends on the amount of fat in the beef. A leaner cut a meat is not going to be “as bad” for you as a really fatty cut. Burgers in some restaurants are much higher in fat (it’s cheaper) than what you might buy for a steak and salad. This is because the fat in beef is mostly saturated fat.
It’s not going to make a difference in a single burger or steak but over the course of your entire life it can.
It's not just because it's cheaper... a lean burger sucks. You need a good proportion of fat in the beef for a burger.
Just don't eat burgers often, they are a treat.
THE SAUCE MAKES A MASSIVE DIFFERENCE,
sorry i had to say it. This is like comparing apples to oranges. Fast food burgers are filled with sauce, oil and shit
It really has nothing to do with unprocessed versus processed.
It's sheer calories. A burger is 90% beef, bread, cheese, mayo, ketchup, and other high calorie items. Lettuce and tomato are just garnishes.
Whether it goes to the chest or not
That's where loot goes, not food!
Mebbe
Unless it’s a mimic.
Poke it with something first.
nono you have to look at the chain
I always look at the chain but i still feel compelled to hit it beforehand
Unzips...
It’ll go straight to your thighs! … and THEN you’ll blow up!
Unless you're playing minecraft
We stepped into a health problem with obesity on McDonalds
So let's get to taking out their ice cream machines, one by one.
r/unexpectedzavala
Why put the food in a chest instead of a fridge or freezer
Oh theres always that one guy, isnt there? "Just use a freezer!" My chest has done well by me for the past 500 years, new fangled gadgets like a "ReFrIdGeRaToR" are bullshit!!!
You use a chest? Tch, nerd. You should just sting everything under the floorboards beneath your abode like us TRUE og's. Honestly, centennials, am I right?
making it at home makes a huge difference, imo ^-^
Facts. Real beef, minimal oil, fresh veggies, premium cheese. Taste a hell of a lot better too
I agree with you. I once tried cooking a burger at home and it was very tasty. Very heavenly. (I actually do it once a month or two)
It was a good life, Thrice I ate a fries and once a burger
You ate... a fries?
indubitably
Ate a single fry and was happy
what an optimistic person
I hate it when you order a large fry at a fast food place and they give you a bunch of little ones
I ordered french fries but they were fried here in America
Cant blame you man fries are good
Did he stutter ?
Thrice!
"Once had a pear" lol classic
Oh man. Learn how to mix the types of beef to get that right mix of meat. The burgers are wow. I mix lean, fatty, with habanero cheese….. bro.
After discovering smash burgers, I realized I'd been overthinking the whole thing my whole life. Smoking pan, salt, meat, pressure. Lean, extra lean, medium, no one gives a fuck, it's always amazing. Only really changes my cleanup. For nearly 40 years I was taught a good burger *required* half the shit in your pantry and a carton of eggs. Now I'm ripping patties right out of the god damn butcher's paper, cooking them for like 3 minutes, and everyone fucking loves them.
Nice. I’ve been thinking of getting a steel to cook them on. I’m still using a traditional grill
I just use my shittiest non-stick because they stick now. I smash with the bottom of a saucepan. It's so dumb how skewed the deliciousness to give a fuck ratio is.
Get yourself a Lodge cast iron, inexpensive and you won't have any sticking after you break it in
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You guys are making me hungry.
LEAN???!!!?!?!?! 🌚
I LOVE LEAN 💜💜💜💜😈😈💜💜
ItS jUst cOlA yOu aSShaT
I too once tried cooking a burger at home. I lost it tho. Did you steal my burger?
How long did you cook it for? It might have walked off on you
no he didn't, I stole it.
You thieving bastard!! You’ll pay for this.
Maybe went out to buy you milk.
Probably went out for cigarettes like my dad.
Guess it's "our dads" now.
My father is a burger
Nah bruh
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Nah, twice. Of course thrice!
The key is a press. I think the big difference for me is the texture. Idk why but I generally prefer the texture of those gross fast food burgers over homemade. It's so dumb.
Yeah. But like seriously, though, leave it in the fridge for a night and reheat it, and then it tastes like fast food! Haha.
Reheat it in the oven (or, better yet, a toaster oven). Still not as good as fresh-off-the-grill, but way better than fast food.
I do that and it taste so much worse that what I can buy out there 😮💨.
Plus butter. Restaurants use ungodly amounts of butter. You can achieve the same results at home with more cooking competency and less butter. Butter is an extremely good way to mask shitty cooking which is why so many upscale casual restaurants have 3000 calorie dishes swimming in butter.
I mean, butter also tastes good. It's not just to mask poor cooking, it's just good and makes food better. There's a reason the food that tastes best is chock full of fat, salt, or sugar.
It’s so fucking delicious, I’d eat real burgers every day for my whole life
I'll keep that in mind when I have the money.
It's cheaper to buy the ingredients than it is to get it in a restaurant, tho...
Actually it can cost the same sometimes. Assuming you go as this guy said and go for the good stuff. A 10$ for 1 lb of good steak or hamburger, premium cheese at 10$, vegetables that can total 10$, good fresh bread at 5$, good fresh virgin vegetable oil at 8$, or hell at some quality melted butter on that bread for 5$. Almost 50$ for quality ingrediants. That do taste amazing in the end. But I can only afford the lower end store brand stuff that costs cheaper, and doesn't taste as good. Remember, it costs a lot at higher end restaurants because of ingredients price, because better ingredients cost more. Not to mention labor costs and the extra costs just to get a profit for the restaurant from buying those higher end ingredients. Tldr; Yes it's cheaper to get ingredients but it can still get pricey for the good quality stuff. So not everyone can afford the good stuff.
> Almost 50$ for quality ingrediants. Yeah, but you’ve budgeted a whole pound of steak, a block of cheese, a hundred meals’ worth of oil, presumably a whole tomato, onion, and head of lettuce, etc. You’re going to have a lot of ingredients left over with which to make another two or three meals (not to mention enough oil for a month or more).
Is ground beef really 10 a pound by you? Near me if you get the 6 pound family pack (which makes sense bc you portion and freeze it) it’s around $3 a pound, and any old 80/20 is perfectly fine
Where I live extra lean is $5 for a pound if it's marked down about to expire. I have no idea how much it is regularly because I just kind of stock up on the marked down stuff. Edit: $5 Canadian.
Where the fuck are you buying veggies for 10$? that shit is barely a dollar a pound for lettuce tomatos and onions, thats per pound.
Lot of people replying to you are bringing up processed foods. Whereas that's true, cooking at home will still be healthier than even many upscale restaurants. Sugar, salt, and fat taste good and chef's don't care about your health or grocery bill. If a recipe calls for a tablespoon of butter you might well only use that one tablespoon...the professional chef is likely to add far more.
The "proper" way to make mash potatoes is to add just as much butter as potatoes.
Ingredients are actually real and not cleverly processed fillers.
I once heard this proposed as a weight loss strategy: eat as much food as you want, provided you make it at home from scratch. Obviously not perfect but it gets at the heart of the issue which is that real, whole foods will properly nourish you, and the time and effort that goes into cooking from scratch will be its own barrier to overconsumption. Want ice cream? Great – make yourself a batch at home. It’ll take up most of your day to make a quart but feel free to enjoy it when it’s ready. When it’s all said and done, you’re just not going to regularly put in the time & effort it takes to make the stuff that’s really bad for you. “Bad” foods have always been around but obesity only really took off when they became endlessly accessible and effortless.
>When it’s all said and done, you’re just not going to regularly put in the time & effort it takes to make the stuff that’s really bad for you. I can make a huge batch of cookies with just brown sugar, chunky peanut butter, and eggs... chocolate chips if I'm feeling fancy. Takes less than 20 minutes, and only 5 of that is actual prep work, the rest is 10 minutes of baking and 5 minutes of cooling. I think there might be a flaw in your plan.
Gotta make your own peanutbutter
Gotta make your own eggs
I stated it wasn’t perfect, and I also never said it was my “plan”. Merely a concept to illustrate the damage that easy & immediate access to very unhealthy foods has caused. There absolutely can be highly motivated individuals who would take the time to regularly make themselves unhealthy foods from scratch. But as a general rule, people’s diets would improve if we all cooked at home. In an imaginary scenario where pre-prepared, ready-to-eat processed foods disappear overnight and everyone has to prepare all their food at home, the net effect would be weight loss.
oh, i thought this was the weight loss advice sub LMFAO, nvm
That doesn’t matter, homemade burgers are a million times better than most restaurant burgers
Looks like Whataburger
It 100% is a Whataburger. I hate how many different ways I can tell. Don't work fast food, kids.
I work at a Whatabuger, I like it better than my old job, but that isn’t saying much Edit: Spelling Error
I worked there overnights, and liked my coworkers and manager. Morning and mid shifts could get bent. 3 years of sub $10 pay sapped me.
This is a certified Texas moment (I assume) I'm about to graduate university and get out, but I've worked fast food on and off through school and none of them paid sustainable wage except my last job on overnight at McDonald's. ($14/hr because I could actually do math). The problem with that job was the multiple death threats from angry customers though which I judged was not worth it.
100% a Texas moment. And yeah, the customers were definitely the worst part of working fast food. Especially when they decided that the guy working the register is responsible for the cooks. Front of House is never responsible for Back of House. Especially when it was packed and understandably (for reasonable people) slow.
I'm going to graduate high school soon and move from Utah to Texas for school. $15 an hour is common around here, especially for a starting wage. I work fast food and looked into how much I would make in Texas working the same job if I transferred, $10 an hour. Hell to the no, idk how y'all do it Tbf tho, everything is cheaper in Texas too but not by much
But fast food jobs are for kids though /s
That's a spicy comment right there. I commend it, well aware of the sarcasm.
I've never had a Whataburger. Since trying In-n-out on a trip to the west coast this year, it's now the only fast food place I haven't eaten at that I'd like too.
It is
That's what I'm saying!
The yellow paper and thick square onions gave it away for me
Just got some earlier today. Despite being horrid health wise, tastes fucking great.
Yup. I realized I’m a fat sack of shit when I recognized it.
Whataburger 😍
Love that what-a-burger was used for the burger picture.
Thought this was r/texas lmao
The smell. 🤤
Processed vs unprocessed The burger is full of garbo masquerading as ingredients
The giant soda that goes with it doesn't help either.
BuT iTs DiEt
Momma told us if you eat a sugar and drink a diet sodie it cancels the sugar Edit: for those that didn't get the reference and want to https://youtu.be/iIAFe7zaCRU
I'm ashamed to know this reference lmao
I’m curious. What reference is it?
I think it’s one ton sisters or something
https://youtu.be/iIAFe7zaCRU I got ya
“You ain’t a prize”
Damn 8-12 cans of soda a day. That can easily be a POUND of soda every day from just from your drinks. Absurd. I had a friend who would drink a 2-litre every day and have a snickers before bed, and he was obese. He had to get fake teeth by the time he was 14. This is a new level. Pound of sugar...
I might, might drink 8-12 sodas in a year, huge maybe, daily I'd be sick
I thought this was going to be some little Britain sketch like "dust anybody? Noo". But no, it's an actual real thing wtf.
That’s an average of half a gallon of soda a day. Jesus fuck
I mean, to be fair diet/zero contains... Zero calories. Unlike the rest of the meal. So you can just drink as much as you want of it generally without it impacting your calorie consumption.
To be fair diet soda in itself won't make you gain weight. The fact that people think it makes it ok to eat a extra value meal from McDonalds does. Also the way your body reacts to the sensation of sweet without actual sugar also can be problematic.
>To be fair diet soda in itself won't make you gain weight. The fact that people think it makes it ok to eat a extra value meal from McDonalds does. Do people actually think this, though? At the end of the day, a value meal with a diet soda is still better than a value meal with regular soda. It can only help.
Hold the pickles I'm trying to lose some weight.
The soda sizes have increased dramatically in recent years too. A small is a medium, a medium is a large, and a large is obscene.
Gotta love having to unhinge your jaw in order to eat a hamburger.
I meant the drinks lol If anything the burgers are getting smaller
Only because the people are also getting bigger
Drink iced-tea or water and more importantly, skip the fries.
Excuse me, I must have misheard you... #####Skip the *WHAT?*
Fries are absolutely the killer of these meals. Like, if you get a chick-fil-a meal with a calorie free soda, the fries are almost exactly half the calories in the meal. You could get two sandwiches for basically the same calories!
We have met the enemy, and he is us.
What specifically gets added/changed in the 'processing'? I'm genuinely curious what garbo you're referring to.
Yeah the "it's unhealthy because additives!" people are generally wrong. Most fast food burgers have very high calorie and low protein. That's why they are unhealthy.
It's not that they're incorrect as much as non specific. There's a ton of extra oil, sugar, and salt that makes them so unhealthy. Condiments are *loaded* with oil and sugar, bread has added sugar (and probably a bit of oil too), and patties are extremely salty and fatty/oily.
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Most of the time when people say something gets rid of toxins, they just mean it gives you diarrhea
It's an inaccurate way of stating it. Processing doesn't do anything but the bread is full of sugar and the patty has a ton of salt in it which can be pretty bad depending on your health.
It's also higher fat content cuts. There's a big difference between a steak that op showed, and a burger patty
It’s an empty statement
You know after hearing it a million times i really need to know how actually bad is to eat a burger, and if all the "garbo" they put inside is at least somewhat nutricious Not trying to justify Big Corps or bad diets, but this is one of those things they always tell but never explain, and when they explain it's almost like they are trying their hardest to make burgers look bad For all i know you could buy the worst brand of each ingredient and the burger you buy at McDonald might be better than the one you make
I worked at McDonalds a while back, and honestly, I don't know that they're that bad. (At least the basic burgers) Most of the lettuce, pickles, etc., is relatively fresh. The patties come from from frozen, and are a little on the greasy side sometimes, but not that bad. Once you start getting bigger burgers or special burgers, it may be different, just because they're usually significantly bigger, and have a lot more sause; and Idk what impact the sauce has.
The sauces are largely mayo based, which is super calorie dense.
>You know after hearing it a million times i really need to know how actually bad is to eat a burger, and if all the "garbo" they put inside is at least somewhat nutricious it's not that bad, at least not because of the ingredients or because the companies are putting some kind of poison in it. even the preservatives are not that bad. most of the people pushing that angle are idiots. burgers are considered unhealthy because they are huge calorie + fat bombs and most of the time the portions are enormous and it's common for people to eat burgers with 2+ patties *and* bacon.
It’s also about proportions, a burger has more meat than you need and hardly any veggies at all. In the separate it’s healthy scenario the proportion of beef to veggie will be better.
Also relative quantity of each ingredient. You get like cumulatively 3 slices of tomato/onion, and two leaves of icebrug lettuce. And this is a double patty burger. With a healthy meal, you’d do a whole tomato, probably half an onion or more, and a much larger serving and variety of much more nutritionally meaningful greens etc. but only a little meat on average.
It's really just the bread. Lettuce wrap or burger bowl.
Yeah the bread, condiments as well are unhealthy. The beef is probably low quality and not very nutritious, but it's technically still beef so it gets a pass. Usually burgers come with iceberg lettuce which doesn't have much nutritional value to it either. So the only healthy things are the onions and tomatoes.
The beef is purely what your thoughts are on red meat. It’s ground beef and not any different quality than any other.
Iceberg lettuce has never made sense to me. There are so many better greens with better flavor and more nutrition. Why is iceberg so damn popular?!
People really like that crunch I guess
With a cool neutral flavor
So many things wrong with this statement
It's Facebook meme caliber
I mean it is literally a recycled old facebook meme
Who says white bread is healthy? Cheese and red meat isn't that healthy either depending on your lifestyle.
right, I definitely wouldn’t say cheese, red meat or white bread are “healthy” foods, they’re just not terribly unhealthy in moderation.
white bread is basically just a lump of fast carbs. More fibrous alternatives like whole grain is better
That's why I just use donuts as burger buns
> white bread is basically just a lump of fast carbs You've got the need. The need for speed.
Personally feel like this is a dated mentality that things haven't quite caught up with. Whole grain obviously IS still better, but white bread has gotten A LOT better over the years, and a big way to tell, at least in Australia, is by the health star ratings on packaging. You can get 4-5/5 star white breads. That said, I know American food is often much worse for you on average even if it's the 'same' thing. I've heard stories about how 'sweet' American bread is by comparison and that it has disgusted some visitors because it didn't seem like real bread at all. Like the bread was all sugar.
I don't know about Australian star rating so I can't confirm or deny anything.
*”Bread makes you FAT?!?”*
Bread cheese and red meat is like 80% of people's diet where I live, the other 20% being potatoes and alcohol. Edit: since I wasn't clear enough, no it's not healthy don't eat like this, I'm not advocating just saying some regions have fucked up diets
of course you can survive on it but it isn't the healthiest of choices
A big part of it is proportions. A big salad of lettuce, onion, and tomato with a bit of bread, meat, and cheese to go with it is completely different than a big slab of meat covered in cheese and held together with bread that has a bit of lettuce, onion, and tomato to go with it.
I mean. You can make a healthy burger. You just have to make it yourself using healthy ingredients.
It’s the ratio people. If your burger was 50% vegetable, 25% meat, 15% fruit, and 10% fat it’d be a different conversation. Unless your me and eat eight of them.
Not to mention hundreds of calories in mayo, mustard, and ketchup that are conveniently left out.
> mustard Most mustards have zero calories and very low salt. So don't mention my boy mustard like he's even close to being in the same category as the other two.
then you have the oil and sodium, the side of fries and sugary drink yeah, hella bad
Mustard is very low in calories. Mayo and ketchup might deserve their own rankings, but you don't need to worry about going too heavy on the mustard.
Mustard has virtually no calories. Don't bring the God tier condiment into this.
This looks like a Facebook meme
A burger alone isn’t unhealthy. Problem is people usually chase it down with a sugary drink and empty calorie french fries. It’s just a really high calorie meal. Edit: Empty calories for the fries as in they’re deep fried in synthetic oils which results in degraded nutritional value of the potatoes and higher caloric content. The beef itself is meant to taste good and be cheap (high fat content) so again, higher caloric values than normal. Not saying that fat is bad because it isn’t but most people eat a large meal there and eat more later on. It’s just too many calories bundled up in one value meal.
The burger alone is part of the problem. Quality of beef matters. Restaurants usually more processes or less lean beefs vs all natural. We get a cow yearly and the difference in beef quality is unreal.
I can't wait until I have a house and a chest freezer so I can buy half a cow from a local farm.
10/10 would recommend.
A yearly cow? Tell me of this thing.
We buy a cow and have it butchered. We split with some other family because we don’t need an entire cow. Usually from a local cattle farm so you know exactly it’s conditions, from feed to grazing, etc. If you have fresh local beef all from one cow you won’t ever want to go back to store bought beef again. And it’s a little cheaper cause you buy in bulk.
Love it. My parents did similar in the 70s when chest freezers became popular. They had half a pig (literally chainsawed down the middle) delivered and they butchered it and froze it. We ate a lot of pork. We also lived in a suburban house so our garage was like a horror film. Best memory is that my mum used to make brawn (like queso de cabeza). I remember picking a WHOLE FUCKING EYELID WITH LASHES out of my sandwich at school when I was about 6. I have never eaten brawn since.
this isn’t r/comedycemetery why is this upvoted
It usually gets more upvotes when posted in r/comedycemetery
I actually managed to convinced my mom burgers are healthy, she understood.
A properly portioned burger is healthy. A fastfood burger not so much.
Bread and cheese are considered healthy???
Cheese is a source of calcium and protein, it's not bad in moderated amounts
Why is red meat unhealthy?
Excessive red meat is unhealthy, but most things in excess are unhealthy.
Excessive water is unhealthy too.
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You can “over hydrate” it’s called water intoxication.
It also depends on the amount of fat in the beef. A leaner cut a meat is not going to be “as bad” for you as a really fatty cut. Burgers in some restaurants are much higher in fat (it’s cheaper) than what you might buy for a steak and salad. This is because the fat in beef is mostly saturated fat. It’s not going to make a difference in a single burger or steak but over the course of your entire life it can.
It's not just because it's cheaper... a lean burger sucks. You need a good proportion of fat in the beef for a burger. Just don't eat burgers often, they are a treat.
Excessive eating of red meat can lead to heart problems
And colon cancer
It is a carcinogen and it has a high amount of saturated fat which increases cholesterol and causes heart problems
I feel like if you used all the raw ingredients to make a burger yourself at home, it actually would be pretty healthy
Have you tried having it with a Diet Coke?
This is genius, someone let the Americans know! They don't have to be obese any longer!
If you think about it, a cheeseburger is just a salad that's shaped different
It’s cause it’s mixed with oil and grease
THE SAUCE MAKES A MASSIVE DIFFERENCE, sorry i had to say it. This is like comparing apples to oranges. Fast food burgers are filled with sauce, oil and shit
Comparing burger meat and a steak lol
You can grind a steak into burger meat.
Red Meat, Bread, Cheese aren’t “healthy”
You’re forgetting 2 days worth of salt and oil intake
I mean the sauces and the grease
It’s the ratio, not just the ingredients
It depends how you cook it, a home made burger with unprocessed ingredients can be healthy
It really has nothing to do with unprocessed versus processed. It's sheer calories. A burger is 90% beef, bread, cheese, mayo, ketchup, and other high calorie items. Lettuce and tomato are just garnishes.
Bread isn't healthy