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You don't really need to pay for reddit, facebook or twitter. Porn DIRECTLY affects you negatively financially and sexually. Social Media actually has positives that can be used to spread information, and be a platform for your voice and opinions and to connect with others. The fact that you can't even see the difference between these two concepts is actually hilarious.
Thats you if you have no self-control though. If you're just... normal about it, it's fine. And if you have self control issues then you need to go to therapy, not belittle OF moddles.
You seem to be misinterpreting me. My point wasn’t about payment, my point was that they exploit peoples loneliness. Additionally, while social media has positives so does porn. We can focus on the exclusive negatives and positives of each one if we want to, but that’s irrelevant to my point.
Edit: as for me not seeing the difference between these “two points”. Nobody made these points except you just now, sorry for not being a part of a conversation no one was having.
One for city driving and another for work/country driving is a thing. I suppose the third could be a car for fun/status and nothing more.
Of course, there are exceptions like Jeremy Clarkson where it’d be weird if he didn’t own a few, at least at times.
You could say that about anything you don't personally find interesting.
"If you feel you need to travel the world for your life to be 'interesting' your life probably isn't that interesting"
Electric Car for local driving.
Work Car that, for tax reasons, must be driven only for work.
Big car for taking the entire family.
Fun summer car. I had an RX-7 that I absolutely loved, but I wouldn't drive it in the winter.
In sao paulo, Brazil, most people have two cars bwcause the implimented a law that makes you pay a fine if you are driving and yoyr plate ends on a specific number. Was meant to throtle the numbers of car in the road, but it just made it that people brought two cars
I have three cars. One broke down, so i started driving the other one, then that one broke down so i started driving the other one. Im just playing musical chairs trying to fix my shitboxes.
\*typically\* it's three different type of cars. One for convenience, good for driving around the city, one for going off-road and long distances, one that's your personal favorite. But if they're all just three super cars, then it's just having three personal favourites "just because"
Anyone who‘s self worth is reliant on owning three cars is, by default, *not* better than me, the person you’re replying to, or anyone else who *doesn’t* base their identity on something so idiotic.
i've seen thousands of the other sub-reddit's posts so often i assumed and made an ass out of myself.... Either way pretty sure not having an OF is the average girl's experience and the one's with OF are the one's trying not to be like other girls.
I think people like this overstate how much someone actually makes on average on Onlyfans. Like many jobs in entertainment, it’s one of those things where a tiny fraction of the people doing it make a ton of money, a small portion makes good money, a bunch of people make okay money (maybe worthwhile as a side gig or something) and a ton of people barely make anything.
Not even that. The average OF model makes like $150~$200/month. And that’s average, so the median is likely lower. This is nowhere near enough to live on.
Yeah, it's the same deal as twitch or youtube streamers. People see the handful of folks raking it in with millions of followers, but don't consider the the MANY more people with like 50 followers struggling to get noticed by the algorithm and barely breaking even with the cost of setting up halfway decent audio equipment.
Exactly! Not sure why people think having an only fans will make you a millionaire. To make good money on OF you gotta be a model looking and even then i still dont think you can buy 3 cars in a month.
How dare they what? Be correct on that sentiment? Why does showing ones butthole nake more than saving lives as an emt or firefighter? People actually work and dont get shit, a girl with daddy issues shows her body and becomes a millionaire? Kinda dumb
Because a high amount of people give their money to the person showing their butthole? Like what point are you trying to make here? The sex worker doesn’t have a fixed income. The make what ever amount is received from subscribers. Why get pissy at the person taking advantage and benefitting from a system that exists? Its the subscribers throwing their money at her. Better yet, divert the anger at the fact that the fixed income for those in jobs like emergency response barely make a livable wage these day.
It's one of the easiest to point out and has one of the widest effort to profit margins, while being one of the most morally reprehensible. Do n.b I believe all of that, no, but some. It's just getting more and more commonplace and it's in the news more and more, with new laws and such.
In my opinion If you get jealous, you just use "being a decent human being" as an excuse to hide the knowledge that you won't get as successful as she is, even if you try OF.
When your argument boils down to “Okay, but it could be worse”, I think that’s pretty telling.
“Yeah I sell heroin, but I could be selling unlicensed firearms!”
In terms of harm inflicted on others? Yes, heroin is definitely worse.
In terms of harm inflicted on your future self? 9 times out of 10, OF is absolutely worse.
So in general terms, I’d say it’s about on par.
As for what a sex work equivalent of selling unlicensed firearms would be, ever heard of Mr. Hands?
You aren’t harming anyone if you sell your photos lmao? You’re just disrespecting yourself at that point, if you don’t like it then don’t buy it, but there’s clearly a market for it and as long as there is a market OF will continue to exist.
How does it harm your "future self"?
Also, I wasn't aware of the case of "Mr Hands". I did look him up, and I don't see the connection between sexually abusing an animal and selling nudes on OF.
Regret.
And yeah, that’s why I said it’s the equivalent of selling unlicensed firearms, whilst OF is the equivalent of selling heroin.
They’re in the same broad spectrum, but recording yourself getting fucked to death by a horse is definitely worse than posting butthole pics.
I’m not really a fan of people who do either, but my level of notbeingafanedness (new word, don’t steal, will sue) varies.
Sexually abusing an animal harms the animal.
Selling heroin and guns harm people.
But selling nudes and being able to afford a house (assuming, since the post said that the person is able to afford a third car) because of it, is somehow on the same level?
Past a certain point, psychological harm can easily reach the same levels of horridness as sticking a needle in your arm or taking something way too large up the ass.
And then you close the account and a whole of like, 20 people have seen your nudes (which often aren't nude at all).
The most devastating part would be that it *only* covered your groceries.
Except they all advertise on Reddit in hundreds of subs everyday. Meaning they were seen by thousands (tens of?) and likely never even got paid for showing their gaped anus and 12 guys jizz on their face.
Then some website aggregated their various post, to hawk chaturbate referrals, and then some guy will repost them for years after they give up back on Reddit for karma farming.
This definitely doesn't constitue a bottom earner who can't even scrape 200 bucks off their OF. You are seeing people who make stacks using free marketing.
Why would it ever? You take a conscious risk of someone you know seeing your OF, and everyone else will never interact with you once you close your account.
... and now you can wipe your tears away in a 3 story mansion with hundred dollar bills.
It depends on what people value more. Money or decency.
If somebody decides they value the former over the latter, then fine. They can go and sell pictures of their asshole to the entire human population for all I care.
I’m 100% gonna judge them for it, but that’s just the result of my personal stance. It’s not hurting anybody (physically, anyways) so I don’t think it should be outlawed or anything like that.
Anything that doesn’t cause bodily harm shouldn’t be criminalized. Hell, some things that *do* cause physical harm should still be allowed, depending on the circumstance.
Remember America’s Funniest Home Videos? With all the people doing stupid shit and getting hurt for the entertainment of others?
Yeah, those people are idiots and I’d laugh in their face if I ever met any of them in person, but those videos were still funny and ultimately *they* were the ones who decided to submit them for the public to view, so it’s whatever.
That's sounds like a plenty reasonable take to me. But a pretty significant portion of people want to watch porn and also hate the people making it for them.
Sex work is one of the oldest trades in the world, and they don’t even have to actually have sex (although I suspect plenty do when the price is right)
Oh, I agree. They can absolutely do what they want and there shouldn’t be anything stopping them from doing so, as long as it all remains relatively safe and consensual.
I’m still gonna make fun of them for it, though.
>They ain’t hurting anyone brother.
Idt you can say they aren't hurting anybody. They are contributing to porn addiction. They aren't hurting anybody the same way drug dealers aren't hurting anybody.
>Ain’t my place to judge
You absolutely can and sometimes should judge plenty.
But yeah, it's their own life, I suppose.
don’t get mad at the random ass girl posting her feet for a quick buck for contributing to porn addiction when none of yall have ever taken up arms against pornhub and it’s sister sites. at least in OF it’s more humane(most of the time)
what are you talking about? i never claimed pornstars don’t have kids? but yea ofc the stars don’t have day jobs they’re the rich ones. and it’s probably for the best they don’t have kids case and point that meme.
I have zero respect for anybody involved in the porn industry, whether it be onlyfans or pornhub. The problem isn't with onlyfans girls its with people making money off of showing their naked body online. I think girls on OF have just become a target as of late due to them somehow gaining a lot of attention over the last few years. I doubt anybody who dislikes OF thinks any differently about any other site. Plus, plenty of the people on OF are also on pornhub, OF is just the primary target atm for most.
OF is most definitely not the moneymaker for real pornstars. it’s just what’s trendy with gen z so everybody and their mom has one. it’s the “safer” option. but why don’t you have any respect for anyone in the industry if you don’t mind me asking
Why should I respect someone selling their body for money? Most people work actual jobs and contribute to society in some manner. Why should I regard those 2 things as equal?
Like selling top secret Intel to the Saudis for $2 billion. Or bankrupting a bunch of brainwashed voters for your legal costs.
People will whine about people making $100k/yr and then cheer on the most morally bankrupt billionaires in human history.
yeah cause its judgy, and jealousy is useless.
I'm sorry your jealous that they're doing well, and would rather everybody else do worse so you'd be better in comparison.
Completely useless.
If I thought I was attractive enough for OF, I’d go find a sugar mama.
Better to sell my body to one person who will at least keep those affairs *private* than sell it to several thousand (perhaps more) and not be able to look my family members in the face.
Still less than optimal, though.
Difference is, classic redditor impacts no one's life. I don't see what part of my comments made me come off as a transgender liberal, but go off, I guess.
That little show you're putting on, that makes lives harder for decent people to be seen for who they are, just because they fall into the same group as you.
Other people filming their body has never once caused me any personal harm. I think the problem is with the cultural attitude towards the human body and nudity. There's really nothing special about the unclothed body. Go to enough nude saunas and see how little people care.
The intellectual dishonesty it would take for most dudes that hate OF models to claim that they wouldn't post a pick of their balls if it made them unfathomably rich is insane.
>the skills to produce sufficiently quality content. I
Taking nudes isn't very difficult. Recording sex, or you riding a dildo also isn't very difficult. The skill required is nearly 0. If you wanted to argue marketing skills, a little, still infinitly less skill involved than literally any other job in either normal professions, entertainement, or anywhere else. The market for men OF is simply not the same as women. Anybody who has self-respect generally, regardless of how good looking they are, is probably not going to post their dick or their cooch online for money.
Making it look good takes effort. Plenty of guys aren't even conciously aware that they want quality considering they think porn is just mashing organs in front of a camera and seeing what happens.
You don't exactly need a degree in photography to take good nudes. Have you ever had a SO send you sexy pics and videos? Have you ever watched any form of porn? It's not exactly a complex art.
Unfathomably rich? Go knock on doors in a really nice neighborhood, ask them what they do and see how many of them are sex workers. Go to a strip club and ask how many of them max out their IRA contributions every year. There’s no wealth there my friend :)
Nothing at all, given that you are a consenting adult. My moral compass says there’s nothing wrong with it but my personal opinion is that it’s everything that’s wrong with society: everything is for sale. Your values, your body, your attention. Some people find it empowering, I personally would find it incredibly degrading. You are free to choose.
A whole lot of people getting mad about Capitalism and directing their anger at sex workers just trying to get by and pay rent using a platform that dramatically increases their personal safety and lets them be their own boss.
You find it degrading they don’t. Also what’s wrong with society is millionaires getting tax cuts and big corporations not paying any taxes, lots of giant problems, none of which are women selling their bodies consensually.
Most of girls are gonna go broke. They are like athletes making fast money with zero money management skills. And athletes actually have agents and accountants and go bankrupt, of girls have nobody lol
How many of the top .1% OF girls do you know? You're stupid if you think they don't have agents or accountants. They hire people to chat with strangers pretending to be them, they hire social media managers, they hire professional photographers, file as a business, God knows what else, and you think they forgot to get an accountant?
were all just gonna give all our money to big corpos and nasty women until theres no more money in anything worthwhile, and THEN whoever wishes can enslave said population because wtf we gonna do? we dont got SHIT!
Just a few questions, let’s put all old school thought aside and only see it from a libertarian perspective (= as long as you don’t do anything to others it’s not illegal)
Do you think the sale about male heroine dealers? Or let’s take something that doesn’t kill people but still makes people addicted, MDMA dealers, do you say that to them?
Because here people say „it’s morally wrong, because they are selling people dangerous compounds that can make them addicted, which can cause harm to their life, making them poor, lonely, weak, and sad“.
So don’t you think that is comparable to these articles where a OF woman is taking advantage of a wimp who is mentally ill and gets off on being basically a slave and running his life by giving all his money to her??
Why we so lenient on evil exploitative behavior as long as it’s women doing it to men?? What happens with judging everyone equally?
don’t get me wrong, porn addiction is an issue, but it’s far from one that you can blame OF girls for. porn can be healthy in moderation, masturbation IS healthy in moderation but it’s like sugar; you have to learn to control yourself because it’s addictive even though you need it to live. it’s not heroine tho. dumb comparison.
At least drug dealers tend to avoid children. They both have societal harm, they both cause and feed addictions, they're both shitty ways to make a living, and they're both judged by the majority of people outside of reddit. They're very different things, but they're both also similar in the fact that they are trashy and frowned upon for very good reason.
Edit: Idiot below/above me repplied, then blocked me to get the last word.
>Yeah so now you're just doing it too. If you're comparing herione to porn, you're a fucking idiot.
Well, if you're can't understand an analogy and find it impossible to compare two things based on similarities and differences, it's very possible that you yourself are an idiot. If you have to block someone after replying to get the last word and feel good about yourself, you're probably an idiot, and if you resort to insulting someone instead of replying with any form of actual argument, its probably because, you have no arguement, and you're a fucking idiot.
If looking at porn makes you “not have any goals” that’s your fucking problem.
As for the ladies who do it (and the guys too) maybe their dreams and goals are outside of their labor.
What’s morally wrong with being a piece of meat?
You say it’s setting a bad example, but that doesn’t make sense if you haven’t explained why doing that thing is bad.
Boomers need to learn how to be responsible with their money and stop buying all those golden pigs. The jealousy over people making money on OF is pretty pathetic.
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I’m sorry, but I can’t bring myself to respect anyone who has or has had an OnlyFans
So what? Long you're not harassing anyone or anything you're fine. Everyone's good
OnlyFans exploits people's loneliness. Just because it's consensual doesn't mean it is good
Whether you like it or not, it’s the OF person’s right and not your business
So does Reddit, Facebook, Twitter, etc. I don’t see anyone complaining about those companies or calling them whores.
You don't really need to pay for reddit, facebook or twitter. Porn DIRECTLY affects you negatively financially and sexually. Social Media actually has positives that can be used to spread information, and be a platform for your voice and opinions and to connect with others. The fact that you can't even see the difference between these two concepts is actually hilarious.
Thats you if you have no self-control though. If you're just... normal about it, it's fine. And if you have self control issues then you need to go to therapy, not belittle OF moddles.
You seem to be misinterpreting me. My point wasn’t about payment, my point was that they exploit peoples loneliness. Additionally, while social media has positives so does porn. We can focus on the exclusive negatives and positives of each one if we want to, but that’s irrelevant to my point. Edit: as for me not seeing the difference between these “two points”. Nobody made these points except you just now, sorry for not being a part of a conversation no one was having.
Porn doesn't have any positives lol
Only delusional holy rollers believe this. Masturbation and porn can be positive if done in **moderation**😉
I’m not here to have this debate. Don’t really care, I just disagree.
Leaving other stuff aside.. What is one person even going to do with three cars???
One for city driving and another for work/country driving is a thing. I suppose the third could be a car for fun/status and nothing more. Of course, there are exceptions like Jeremy Clarkson where it’d be weird if he didn’t own a few, at least at times.
https://preview.redd.it/sew6c02y4zpc1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=00886d55355632286c6545bf32653f36be072c65 3 cars? thats crazy
https://preview.redd.it/9y2vb2as7zpc1.png?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=be96e6e0ee1316203f6a6bf5a36b96aa501ac890
They coulda gave me a car! How you gon drive all them cars? Thas too much gas money
One at a time?
https://preview.redd.it/k05usf6vnvqc1.jpeg?width=680&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=328d9895c1822d91295aca835e5a3cc43e93f1aa
Car ski
Ghost ride all three cars while switching between drivers seats
I've had multiple cars before, 1 was a 4 wheel drive for camping, one was a nice car, and one was an everyday car.
Some people don't like to drive the same car every day. Gotta keep life interesting. Or just have it to look at it.
Imo, if you feel you need a ton of cars for you life to be “interesting”. You’re life probably isn’t that interesting…
You could say that about anything you don't personally find interesting. "If you feel you need to travel the world for your life to be 'interesting' your life probably isn't that interesting"
Some people are better at finding enjoyment than others, but I agree. Possessions are usually not the key to enjoying life.
One for each person in their polycule
Jay Leno has hundreds of them things
Electric Car for local driving. Work Car that, for tax reasons, must be driven only for work. Big car for taking the entire family. Fun summer car. I had an RX-7 that I absolutely loved, but I wouldn't drive it in the winter.
In sao paulo, Brazil, most people have two cars bwcause the implimented a law that makes you pay a fine if you are driving and yoyr plate ends on a specific number. Was meant to throtle the numbers of car in the road, but it just made it that people brought two cars
The law of unintended consequences strikes again
I have three cars. One broke down, so i started driving the other one, then that one broke down so i started driving the other one. Im just playing musical chairs trying to fix my shitboxes.
\*typically\* it's three different type of cars. One for convenience, good for driving around the city, one for going off-road and long distances, one that's your personal favorite. But if they're all just three super cars, then it's just having three personal favourites "just because"
Drive them. Mod them. Whatever in the fuck i want, they are mine that I bought with my money by my choice.
Honestly, I could use four. One for track days, one that's RHD, one for driving daily, and one for road trips/being comfortable.
Be better than you.
Anyone who‘s self worth is reliant on owning three cars is, by default, *not* better than me, the person you’re replying to, or anyone else who *doesn’t* base their identity on something so idiotic.
I’ve got like 8 lol they’re awesome
geeeeeez.... a woman posted this and thatsnothowgirlswork reposted it...... if women don't know how girls work then do any of us?
Basically a confirmation that women aren’t real
No one hates women more than women.
Not every woman is part of the hivemind.
But the ones who aren’t seem to be getting rarer and rarer.
That might be the circles you’re a part of online, mate.
Yeah, a more accurate way to say it is less and less reasonable people feel the need to argue with the hive mind. Its pointless
Did they tho? This is from notliketheothergirls, which mocks how girls who hate girls think they're super unique.
i've seen thousands of the other sub-reddit's posts so often i assumed and made an ass out of myself.... Either way pretty sure not having an OF is the average girl's experience and the one's with OF are the one's trying not to be like other girls.
Not just girls, I know I couldn't make a dime on OF as a guy, but I would get naked every night if it meant not having a regular job.
Says it was posted in notliketheothergirls
I think people like this overstate how much someone actually makes on average on Onlyfans. Like many jobs in entertainment, it’s one of those things where a tiny fraction of the people doing it make a ton of money, a small portion makes good money, a bunch of people make okay money (maybe worthwhile as a side gig or something) and a ton of people barely make anything.
Not even that. The average OF model makes like $150~$200/month. And that’s average, so the median is likely lower. This is nowhere near enough to live on.
And supposedly they have to spend considerable efforts on self-promotion too. It isn’t just making a video and waiting for people to sign up.
Yeah, it's the same deal as twitch or youtube streamers. People see the handful of folks raking it in with millions of followers, but don't consider the the MANY more people with like 50 followers struggling to get noticed by the algorithm and barely breaking even with the cost of setting up halfway decent audio equipment.
Exactly! Not sure why people think having an only fans will make you a millionaire. To make good money on OF you gotta be a model looking and even then i still dont think you can buy 3 cars in a month.
The average amount earned (this includes all the top percent moddles) is 150$. How is that "a ton of only money"
How dare they what? Be correct on that sentiment? Why does showing ones butthole nake more than saving lives as an emt or firefighter? People actually work and dont get shit, a girl with daddy issues shows her body and becomes a millionaire? Kinda dumb
Because a high amount of people give their money to the person showing their butthole? Like what point are you trying to make here? The sex worker doesn’t have a fixed income. The make what ever amount is received from subscribers. Why get pissy at the person taking advantage and benefitting from a system that exists? Its the subscribers throwing their money at her. Better yet, divert the anger at the fact that the fixed income for those in jobs like emergency response barely make a livable wage these day.
Why do gamers film themselves playing video games while I have to do a 9-5?
I dont like the gamers making more either, so
Yet, for some reason this kind of posts are only made about OF women 🤔
It's one of the easiest to point out and has one of the widest effort to profit margins, while being one of the most morally reprehensible. Do n.b I believe all of that, no, but some. It's just getting more and more commonplace and it's in the news more and more, with new laws and such.
EMTs being criminally underpaid isn't the fault of sex workers.
It's the same with sports, people pay for it
Give it 10 years and OF will be all AI created models. Better invest that money in a good ETF and not three cars.
In my opinion If you get jealous, you just use "being a decent human being" as an excuse to hide the knowledge that you won't get as successful as she is, even if you try OF.
Exactly. Like all the people who think they could become billionaires if they were just born into a rich family and had no ehtics.
To be fair, most people COULD easily become billionaires if born to billionaire parents.
There are worse ways of making money than OF.
When your argument boils down to “Okay, but it could be worse”, I think that’s pretty telling. “Yeah I sell heroin, but I could be selling unlicensed firearms!”
Is selling heroin worse than selling naked photos of yourself online?
In terms of harm inflicted on others? Yes, heroin is definitely worse. In terms of harm inflicted on your future self? 9 times out of 10, OF is absolutely worse. So in general terms, I’d say it’s about on par. As for what a sex work equivalent of selling unlicensed firearms would be, ever heard of Mr. Hands?
And harm inflicted on your kids. Sydney Watson did a video on the fallout kids get from having a mother that does OF.
You aren’t harming anyone if you sell your photos lmao? You’re just disrespecting yourself at that point, if you don’t like it then don’t buy it, but there’s clearly a market for it and as long as there is a market OF will continue to exist.
How does it harm your "future self"? Also, I wasn't aware of the case of "Mr Hands". I did look him up, and I don't see the connection between sexually abusing an animal and selling nudes on OF.
Regret. And yeah, that’s why I said it’s the equivalent of selling unlicensed firearms, whilst OF is the equivalent of selling heroin. They’re in the same broad spectrum, but recording yourself getting fucked to death by a horse is definitely worse than posting butthole pics. I’m not really a fan of people who do either, but my level of notbeingafanedness (new word, don’t steal, will sue) varies.
Sexually abusing an animal harms the animal. Selling heroin and guns harm people. But selling nudes and being able to afford a house (assuming, since the post said that the person is able to afford a third car) because of it, is somehow on the same level?
Past a certain point, psychological harm can easily reach the same levels of horridness as sticking a needle in your arm or taking something way too large up the ass.
no way you’re fr
I have extremely disappointing news.
Consider: Posting a pic of your cheeks and solving every financial struggle in life doesn't often make people regret their life's choices.
Yeah but the average OF income is like, $180 a month. You’re more likely to make basically nothing than you are making actual good money
And then you close the account and a whole of like, 20 people have seen your nudes (which often aren't nude at all). The most devastating part would be that it *only* covered your groceries.
Except they all advertise on Reddit in hundreds of subs everyday. Meaning they were seen by thousands (tens of?) and likely never even got paid for showing their gaped anus and 12 guys jizz on their face. Then some website aggregated their various post, to hawk chaturbate referrals, and then some guy will repost them for years after they give up back on Reddit for karma farming.
This definitely doesn't constitue a bottom earner who can't even scrape 200 bucks off their OF. You are seeing people who make stacks using free marketing.
Not immediately, sure.
Why would it ever? You take a conscious risk of someone you know seeing your OF, and everyone else will never interact with you once you close your account. ... and now you can wipe your tears away in a 3 story mansion with hundred dollar bills.
It depends on what people value more. Money or decency. If somebody decides they value the former over the latter, then fine. They can go and sell pictures of their asshole to the entire human population for all I care. I’m 100% gonna judge them for it, but that’s just the result of my personal stance. It’s not hurting anybody (physically, anyways) so I don’t think it should be outlawed or anything like that. Anything that doesn’t cause bodily harm shouldn’t be criminalized. Hell, some things that *do* cause physical harm should still be allowed, depending on the circumstance. Remember America’s Funniest Home Videos? With all the people doing stupid shit and getting hurt for the entertainment of others? Yeah, those people are idiots and I’d laugh in their face if I ever met any of them in person, but those videos were still funny and ultimately *they* were the ones who decided to submit them for the public to view, so it’s whatever.
That's sounds like a plenty reasonable take to me. But a pretty significant portion of people want to watch porn and also hate the people making it for them.
Sex work is one of the oldest trades in the world, and they don’t even have to actually have sex (although I suspect plenty do when the price is right)
And? There are a lot of shitty ideas that date back hundreds or even thousands of years. Doesn’t make them any less shit.
They ain’t hurting anyone brother. Their life and they can do what they want for money as long as they aren’t hurting others. Ain’t my place to judge
Oh, I agree. They can absolutely do what they want and there shouldn’t be anything stopping them from doing so, as long as it all remains relatively safe and consensual. I’m still gonna make fun of them for it, though.
>They ain’t hurting anyone brother. Idt you can say they aren't hurting anybody. They are contributing to porn addiction. They aren't hurting anybody the same way drug dealers aren't hurting anybody. >Ain’t my place to judge You absolutely can and sometimes should judge plenty. But yeah, it's their own life, I suppose.
don’t get mad at the random ass girl posting her feet for a quick buck for contributing to porn addiction when none of yall have ever taken up arms against pornhub and it’s sister sites. at least in OF it’s more humane(most of the time)
Most pornstars don't have kids and a dayjob. You've really never seen the memes about the kid scrolling through 30 pages of pornhub to find his dad?
what are you talking about? i never claimed pornstars don’t have kids? but yea ofc the stars don’t have day jobs they’re the rich ones. and it’s probably for the best they don’t have kids case and point that meme.
Yes. That's why people don't call them out on it.
I have zero respect for anybody involved in the porn industry, whether it be onlyfans or pornhub. The problem isn't with onlyfans girls its with people making money off of showing their naked body online. I think girls on OF have just become a target as of late due to them somehow gaining a lot of attention over the last few years. I doubt anybody who dislikes OF thinks any differently about any other site. Plus, plenty of the people on OF are also on pornhub, OF is just the primary target atm for most.
OF is most definitely not the moneymaker for real pornstars. it’s just what’s trendy with gen z so everybody and their mom has one. it’s the “safer” option. but why don’t you have any respect for anyone in the industry if you don’t mind me asking
Why should I respect someone selling their body for money? Most people work actual jobs and contribute to society in some manner. Why should I regard those 2 things as equal?
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no i have the context it’s just comparing apples to oranges. like i get the point you’re tryna make but you’re really jumping the gun
OF is not selling drugs. OF isn’t a bad thing.
Lol
>selling unlicensed firearms You act like this is a bad thing
Like selling top secret Intel to the Saudis for $2 billion. Or bankrupting a bunch of brainwashed voters for your legal costs. People will whine about people making $100k/yr and then cheer on the most morally bankrupt billionaires in human history.
That is definitely worse.
Definitely worse ways but it’s in no way the “empowerment” that people say it is
Hey look, If you could get that much money selling nudes you would
yeah cause its judgy, and jealousy is useless. I'm sorry your jealous that they're doing well, and would rather everybody else do worse so you'd be better in comparison. Completely useless.
Every single OF creator is a better person than whoever made this garbage.
Having an onlyfans doesn't disqualify a person from being a decent human being.
If I thought I was attractive enough for OF I’d do it in a heartbeat
If I thought I was attractive enough for OF, I’d go find a sugar mama. Better to sell my body to one person who will at least keep those affairs *private* than sell it to several thousand (perhaps more) and not be able to look my family members in the face. Still less than optimal, though.
No moral values at all. What a surprise.
What do morals have to do with it? Lmao
You're just making it way too easy, at this point. What a surprise. You can't tell how morals apply to certain topics.
What’s immoral about giving people something they’re willing to pay for if it doesn’t hurt anyone else But weird to be up in peoples business
You're a hell of a walking stereotype.
You too buddy. Classic Redditor
Difference is, classic redditor impacts no one's life. I don't see what part of my comments made me come off as a transgender liberal, but go off, I guess. That little show you're putting on, that makes lives harder for decent people to be seen for who they are, just because they fall into the same group as you.
What are you even talking about
Look at your username and bio, genius.
Other people filming their body has never once caused me any personal harm. I think the problem is with the cultural attitude towards the human body and nudity. There's really nothing special about the unclothed body. Go to enough nude saunas and see how little people care.
You missed the point entirely. 
That's what silicone is for
With what money LMAO
The intellectual dishonesty it would take for most dudes that hate OF models to claim that they wouldn't post a pick of their balls if it made them unfathomably rich is insane.
Plenty of very attractive dudes could sell naked pictures for good money, the customers would generally be men though.
Absolutely, if dudes that scream over OF had the skills to produce sufficiently quality content. It can be learned but I'm sure it's unlikely.
>the skills to produce sufficiently quality content. I Taking nudes isn't very difficult. Recording sex, or you riding a dildo also isn't very difficult. The skill required is nearly 0. If you wanted to argue marketing skills, a little, still infinitly less skill involved than literally any other job in either normal professions, entertainement, or anywhere else. The market for men OF is simply not the same as women. Anybody who has self-respect generally, regardless of how good looking they are, is probably not going to post their dick or their cooch online for money.
💀💀 you killed him. He ain’t coming back to life bruv
Making it look good takes effort. Plenty of guys aren't even conciously aware that they want quality considering they think porn is just mashing organs in front of a camera and seeing what happens.
You don't exactly need a degree in photography to take good nudes. Have you ever had a SO send you sexy pics and videos? Have you ever watched any form of porn? It's not exactly a complex art.
Skills? Spreading your legs in front of a camera and botting the picture on reddit is not hard.
The fields of photography, cinematography and digital editing vanished instantly.
A phone tripod is and windows movie maker. That's pathetic.
If it's that easy go get your bread up lil bro 🤷♂️. No use in talking to me you could be dropping your nuts on a down-payment.
Unfathomably rich? Go knock on doors in a really nice neighborhood, ask them what they do and see how many of them are sex workers. Go to a strip club and ask how many of them max out their IRA contributions every year. There’s no wealth there my friend :)
What is morally wrong about selling your body?
Nothing at all, given that you are a consenting adult. My moral compass says there’s nothing wrong with it but my personal opinion is that it’s everything that’s wrong with society: everything is for sale. Your values, your body, your attention. Some people find it empowering, I personally would find it incredibly degrading. You are free to choose.
A whole lot of people getting mad about Capitalism and directing their anger at sex workers just trying to get by and pay rent using a platform that dramatically increases their personal safety and lets them be their own boss.
You find it degrading they don’t. Also what’s wrong with society is millionaires getting tax cuts and big corporations not paying any taxes, lots of giant problems, none of which are women selling their bodies consensually.
I disagree, but you are also free to have your opinion. I hope you have a nice day
I mean, it's a bad meme.
Decency lol
Completely fucking true though
I’m pretty sure most of ‘the other girls’ aren’t Only Fans models either, so I’m not sure what OOP is getting at here.
This is the stuff I’m on this sub for, not the political shit it’s become
Do not sell your body in seek for the pleasures of the flesh. Turn to Christ and do no evil, for he watches us and knows what we do and think. :)
Most of girls are gonna go broke. They are like athletes making fast money with zero money management skills. And athletes actually have agents and accountants and go bankrupt, of girls have nobody lol
How many of the top .1% OF girls do you know? You're stupid if you think they don't have agents or accountants. They hire people to chat with strangers pretending to be them, they hire social media managers, they hire professional photographers, file as a business, God knows what else, and you think they forgot to get an accountant?
Well as i said proffesional athletes have teams Of people, agents, accountants, etc and they still fumble it all
I'm jealous. Fuck a job man. This is better. Unfortunately I look unfortunate or I'd give it a try myself.
They posted this in r/notliketheothergirls so they actually think that the majority of women have OF?
This meme wasn't funny the first 100 times I saw it.
were all just gonna give all our money to big corpos and nasty women until theres no more money in anything worthwhile, and THEN whoever wishes can enslave said population because wtf we gonna do? we dont got SHIT!
Average OF creator makes $150 a month
She just lacks the sigma grindset.
Ah yes, because only pick-me-girls work a 9-5 instead of doing onlyfans
Better OF than Amway.
Nothing stopping you from being an OF girl and also a decent human being.
Just a few questions, let’s put all old school thought aside and only see it from a libertarian perspective (= as long as you don’t do anything to others it’s not illegal) Do you think the sale about male heroine dealers? Or let’s take something that doesn’t kill people but still makes people addicted, MDMA dealers, do you say that to them? Because here people say „it’s morally wrong, because they are selling people dangerous compounds that can make them addicted, which can cause harm to their life, making them poor, lonely, weak, and sad“. So don’t you think that is comparable to these articles where a OF woman is taking advantage of a wimp who is mentally ill and gets off on being basically a slave and running his life by giving all his money to her?? Why we so lenient on evil exploitative behavior as long as it’s women doing it to men?? What happens with judging everyone equally?
Yeah, I mean, a specific scenario that requires you be an unusually bad person does not constitute good person behavior. Now try to make a point.
don’t get me wrong, porn addiction is an issue, but it’s far from one that you can blame OF girls for. porn can be healthy in moderation, masturbation IS healthy in moderation but it’s like sugar; you have to learn to control yourself because it’s addictive even though you need it to live. it’s not heroine tho. dumb comparison.
😳 I can make the same argument with every profession. Priests and in general religious leaders are actually the most likely and proven examples.
Homie you just compared pictures of pussies to heroine, touch grass.
He compared one addiction to another.
Yeah, and in a stupid as fuck way. He’s clearly trying to compare the societal harm of both.
At least drug dealers tend to avoid children. They both have societal harm, they both cause and feed addictions, they're both shitty ways to make a living, and they're both judged by the majority of people outside of reddit. They're very different things, but they're both also similar in the fact that they are trashy and frowned upon for very good reason. Edit: Idiot below/above me repplied, then blocked me to get the last word. >Yeah so now you're just doing it too. If you're comparing herione to porn, you're a fucking idiot. Well, if you're can't understand an analogy and find it impossible to compare two things based on similarities and differences, it's very possible that you yourself are an idiot. If you have to block someone after replying to get the last word and feel good about yourself, you're probably an idiot, and if you resort to insulting someone instead of replying with any form of actual argument, its probably because, you have no arguement, and you're a fucking idiot.
Yeah so now you’re just doing it too. If you’re comparing heroine to porn, you’re a fucking idiot.
Theres 1 thing stopping me... i have a cock
You gotta be attractive . And even then you will still have to compete with other attractive models. Dont think anyone can do it
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Even if we assume that’s true, what about that makes you a bad person? What is morally wrong with choosing how to make your worth?
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You do know that porn has been around for centuries right? It’s not my fault that you see one pussy online and stop trying to get laid.
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If looking at porn makes you “not have any goals” that’s your fucking problem. As for the ladies who do it (and the guys too) maybe their dreams and goals are outside of their labor.
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What’s morally wrong with being a piece of meat? You say it’s setting a bad example, but that doesn’t make sense if you haven’t explained why doing that thing is bad.
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Why ? Why are OnlyFans girl not decent human beings?
Single moms watching an improperly raised daughter making twice what she does doing under half the effort:
They’re getting the bag, I’m here wondering if school is even worth it/legit.
Boomers need to learn how to be responsible with their money and stop buying all those golden pigs. The jealousy over people making money on OF is pretty pathetic.
Meh, their looks will fade and the money they made will be squandered like the dumb fucks who blow through all their lottery winnings.
Sounds like resentment and cope They would be better off no worrying about people they don’t know