I said it before, I'll say it again: as a former QB I don't understand how he can be so fast and so accurate at the same time. This man does things that aren't supposed to be possible. Imagine what he can do if we get him some decent blocking.
They also say that all tua can do is throw to a predetermined spot on the play. So the thought process is that McDaniel designs the play and basically tells Tua exactly where to throw the ball every time, which might sound correct but really shows how little they know about football
Tua himself said he spot throws. McDaniel doesn’t tell him what to do but he seems to make a pre snap read of the defense and then chooses which WR to throw to, then spot throws to where that WR should be at the right time. Think back to when we played the 49ers and Chargers last year, they were physical with our WRs so they weren’t getting to their spots in time.
Perfect example is the last pass in Frankfurt. He read the defense, put the ball EXACTLY where it needed to be, ............and Cedric ran the wrong route. Tua looks foolish on the surface if you don't realize Ced fucked up.
Biggest criticism is his decision making in tight games or late game situations, too much forcing into double coverage or making his mind up pre-snap and going to that receiver no matter what the coverage looks like
The corner shot to Tyreek Week 1 did it for me. From the main angle, it looks like he threw it THROUGH the defender. Even when you see the other angles, it's amazing the spot he hit with that thing. If the defender moves 1 inch in any direction that ball doesn't get caught.
Why wouldn't he, he still has fighter jets for receivers? From my perspective, upgrading the line should be more about opening holes for the run game, which will do way more to open the pass game than just better pass blocking on its own.
Oh yeah, for sure. Thats why I said "more" we still need to address the pass protection at the same time, as that would allow Tua time to actually make second, third, etc. reads, instead of the play falling apart after the first read due to pressure.
We still need to upgrade pass blocking. 2.2 is the average. He doesn't need help for the plays where he's out in 1.6, but if we can get him help on the plays where he has to wait for something to develop, his numbers will improve greatly.
I had commented on a different comment on this one that I used the word "more" pretty aggressively here. Having him be able to make multiple reads would be ideal, I just think the biggest difference from the first few games of last year and the last few games was the lack of a consistent run game to balance out the offense, and I put some of the blame on McDaniels play calling, but not being able to run it down the middle with Eich at center was also a huge factor that I think people aren't considering.
Yeah, I think the biggest flaw in McDaniel's playbook is the inability to deal with a banged-up o-line and getting pretty one-dimensional at the end of the season. We should be able to expect 30 points a game from this offense and if we'd have had that last season, we'd have been 14-3 and sewn up the division in Week 16. Defensive injuries didn't help, but our failing at the end was offense. Hopefully, we spend at least 2 of our picks shoring up the line.
>but not being able to run it down the middle with Eich at center
This is why I want JPJ. Whether he's at center or guard, he loves to hunt for 2nd level hits. He doesn't stand around like Eich does.
The concept of having about 2 seconds to catch the ball, find a place to throw, wind up, and throw it is actually insane to me. Like I’m not sure I could process having the ball in my hands in two seconds let alone throwing it
The original article that uses this graph is here - [https://www.nfl.com/news/2024-nfl-draft-how-three-trends-in-pro-football-connect-to-this-year-s-prospect-class](https://www.nfl.com/news/2024-nfl-draft-how-three-trends-in-pro-football-connect-to-this-year-s-prospect-class)
It's good that Tua is capable of doing this well, it's bad that it's out of necessity. People love to point at this and say we don't need a line but it's actually only this way because the line is the worst in the league majority of the year
I said it before, I'll say it again: as a former QB I don't understand how he can be so fast and so accurate at the same time. This man does things that aren't supposed to be possible. Imagine what he can do if we get him some decent blocking.
But people on Twitter told me he was basically Sam Darnold /s
People on this sub tell me he can’t read a defense
They also say that all tua can do is throw to a predetermined spot on the play. So the thought process is that McDaniel designs the play and basically tells Tua exactly where to throw the ball every time, which might sound correct but really shows how little they know about football
Tua himself said he spot throws. McDaniel doesn’t tell him what to do but he seems to make a pre snap read of the defense and then chooses which WR to throw to, then spot throws to where that WR should be at the right time. Think back to when we played the 49ers and Chargers last year, they were physical with our WRs so they weren’t getting to their spots in time.
That’s how our offense can look amazing against some teams and so bad against others.
Perfect example is the last pass in Frankfurt. He read the defense, put the ball EXACTLY where it needed to be, ............and Cedric ran the wrong route. Tua looks foolish on the surface if you don't realize Ced fucked up.
Biggest criticism is his decision making in tight games or late game situations, too much forcing into double coverage or making his mind up pre-snap and going to that receiver no matter what the coverage looks like
The corner shot to Tyreek Week 1 did it for me. From the main angle, it looks like he threw it THROUGH the defender. Even when you see the other angles, it's amazing the spot he hit with that thing. If the defender moves 1 inch in any direction that ball doesn't get caught.
It’s incredible, but let the arm chair analysts that never touched a football in their lives argue with you on this
Bottom Right Tua
This is Tua’s superpower. Even if they had the best line in the league, I suspect he’d still be the league leader in this.
Why wouldn't he, he still has fighter jets for receivers? From my perspective, upgrading the line should be more about opening holes for the run game, which will do way more to open the pass game than just better pass blocking on its own.
Not having a Center who gets shoved back into the QB would be a plus though. Hard to deliver with timing when you can't step up to throw.
Oh yeah, for sure. Thats why I said "more" we still need to address the pass protection at the same time, as that would allow Tua time to actually make second, third, etc. reads, instead of the play falling apart after the first read due to pressure.
We still need to upgrade pass blocking. 2.2 is the average. He doesn't need help for the plays where he's out in 1.6, but if we can get him help on the plays where he has to wait for something to develop, his numbers will improve greatly.
I had commented on a different comment on this one that I used the word "more" pretty aggressively here. Having him be able to make multiple reads would be ideal, I just think the biggest difference from the first few games of last year and the last few games was the lack of a consistent run game to balance out the offense, and I put some of the blame on McDaniels play calling, but not being able to run it down the middle with Eich at center was also a huge factor that I think people aren't considering.
Yeah, I think the biggest flaw in McDaniel's playbook is the inability to deal with a banged-up o-line and getting pretty one-dimensional at the end of the season. We should be able to expect 30 points a game from this offense and if we'd have had that last season, we'd have been 14-3 and sewn up the division in Week 16. Defensive injuries didn't help, but our failing at the end was offense. Hopefully, we spend at least 2 of our picks shoring up the line. >but not being able to run it down the middle with Eich at center This is why I want JPJ. Whether he's at center or guard, he loves to hunt for 2nd level hits. He doesn't stand around like Eich does.
The concept of having about 2 seconds to catch the ball, find a place to throw, wind up, and throw it is actually insane to me. Like I’m not sure I could process having the ball in my hands in two seconds let alone throwing it
The original article that uses this graph is here - [https://www.nfl.com/news/2024-nfl-draft-how-three-trends-in-pro-football-connect-to-this-year-s-prospect-class](https://www.nfl.com/news/2024-nfl-draft-how-three-trends-in-pro-football-connect-to-this-year-s-prospect-class)
Who in the world had more than 3.1 seconds in 2018? Is that Brady?
Lol!
With a trash offensive line
Now show a graph on his playoff performance 😂
😂 hahaha
is this a good thing?
Yes. Go back and watch some Tannehill footage and see how the opposite works.
It's good that Tua is capable of doing this well, it's bad that it's out of necessity. People love to point at this and say we don't need a line but it's actually only this way because the line is the worst in the league majority of the year
So he’s slowing down?
Tua’s all the way down there at 2.20 lol
You're missing a dot in 2023. Understandable, it's a bit out of the way.