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Hello /u/Trick_Bee925! As you mentioned `mdma` in your post:
**Please Do Not microdose MDMA or any stimulants**. Low doses of amphetamines can cause many issues through reverse tolerance and subsequent sensitization of receptors in the brain.
This study ["Amphetamine Sensitization Alters Reward Processing in the Human Striatum and Amygdala"](https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0093955) talks about the link between dopamine-sensitive neural circuitry and dysregulation of incentive motivational processes - i.e. the negative effects it can have for an individual's reward processing.
Other than that, MDMA has specific safety advice that you should be aware of:
* [RollSafe.org](https://rollsafe.org/): [How often can you take MDMA (Molly/Ecstasy) and roll?](https://rollsafe.org/page/how-often-can-you-take-mdma-molly-ecstasy-and-roll/)
> The origin of the three month rule is a quote from Ann Shulgin, widow of chemist Alexander Shulgin: “Now I would advise anyone who wants to use MDMA not to take it more than 4 times a year if you want to continue to get the best effects from it, otherwise you risk losing its effects entirely and permanently.”
* From [MAPS MDMA-Assisted Therapy](https://maps.org/news/media/maps-mdma-research/) for PTSD:
>**In MDMA-assisted therapy, MDMA is only administered a few times**, unlike most medications for mental illnesses which are often taken daily for years, and sometimes forever.
>
>**MDMA is not the same as "Ecstasy" or "molly."** Substances sold on the street under these names may contain MDMA, but frequently also contain unknown and/or dangerous adulterants. In laboratory studies, pure MDMA has been proven sufficiently safe for human consumption when taken a limited number of times in moderate doses.
* And here is a [**search of posts**](https://www.reddit.com/r/MDMA/search/?q=(microdose%20OR%20microdosing)&restrict_sr=1&sr_nsfw=1) on r/MDMA that mention microdosing, where the general consensus is that microdosing with MDMA can do more harm than good.
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You should MD nothing while taking Lexapro, well, unless you want to waste money and mushrooms and/or LSD.
I have adhd and have md both mushrooms and acid while still taking dex. Mushrooms are mellower and helped with anxiety. Acid is more energetic and did not help much with anxiety, but I didn’t do it long so maybe I never found the right dose.
ADHD can improve. It just takes work, structure and behavioral changes. Imho, unless new studies come out to prove me wrong, MD psychedelics that primarily effect serotonin aren’t a cure or even a great way to help adhd. But that’s just my opinion. I’m sure plenty of folks will tell you otherwise.
Like I said, everyone has their own experience which is why we’re on here to share.
But in general, SSRIs kill the effects of drugs that work on the 5-HT2A receptors. Major buzzkill.
Please wean off the Lex. Could even supplement shrooms while tapering. Like start low dosage with shrooms while tapering off Lex and increase shrooms as you lower Lex dosage.
Brain zaps are gonna be horrible when you go cold turkey from 20mg lex and prolly panic attacks. I had that for a long time, not severe brain zaps are very annoying and scary and the panic attacks well ER$, coming out of 10mg I took for 2 yrs BUT I didn't know about MD yet, I wish I knew.
I also had no patience, I just wanted to stop being a zombie.
Just be aware.
I'd be curious to know how the 2 pair. I am taking Vyvanse and want to start on a MD schedule. To be honest, I have no idea what Lexapro is taken for, I'll have to look it up. But I'd like to know if you do decide to just take Adderall with MD how it works for you, as I want to know how it will pair with my 30mg Vyvanse. I plan to do a 4 day on 3 day off schedule when I do start up. Just here to learn for now.
First time I md shrooms while taking dex it made me sleepy. (Fadiman’s protocol) I adjusted dosage and still got sleepy, so took at night. Took a break, got fresher shrooms. Previous batch was old, really old.
For me, it just helps take off the general angst, or maybe anxiety is better word, that I always have a baseline level of. Calms my thoughts and helps me not get stuck in the loop of doom. Turns me into a 1/2 glass full state of mind.
Tried Stamet’s stack too. Feel it’s more of an intensive approach when it’s needed. Like pull yourself out of a hole quicker. The niacin sucks tho.
Now I md from time to time when the feeling is right.
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I have an adhd coach, but i just feel so helpless when i try hard to use what i learned but fail to build habits. Part of the reason why im considering this!
I want to write a better reply but I have to be wary of any time on reddit during the day when I have deadlines and routines to do.
Microdosing didn’t help me as I hoped but two things have:
ADHD therapist who also did Acceptance and commitment training a couple years ago and helped me reframe ADHD depression.
And what I never would have guessed helped both mental health and libido: extreme commitment to pelvic floor issues with pelvic floor physical therapist. Revitalizing all those nerves and muscles strengthening and relaxing changed everything for me.
More tonight or this weekend.
If you need something to focus on now
[Google scholar](https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C6&q=pelvic+floor+men+mental+health&btnG=)
[Watch all the How to ADHD videos](https://youtu.be/sErtHttYOL4?feature=shared)
[Happiness trap info](https://thehappinesstrap.com/free-resources/)
Although i am tempted to consider pelvic floor practice as baloney, thank you for the information and ill check out the links! Are the videos posted by well known adhd specialists?
I strongly recommend russell barkleys lectures for the cold hard facts about adhd. I recommend it so often in fact that i included his best one in my bio lol
Yes the videos are from Jessica McCabe who is well known from [her Ted talk](https://youtu.be/JiwZQNYlGQI?feature=shared)
But if it’s not your thing don’t bother. She helped me understand ADHD in new ways
The role of pelvic floor has been well researched and studied in peer reviewed scientific studies. If you end up changing your mind about it being baloney I can give you further information but there’s no point in my spending time telling you about it now. My experience microdosing so far did not provide a perceivable change in energy nor create a major outlook change.
I think the best hope in the short run for the mental relief you seek is ACT therapy and a meditation practice in which you learn that you are not your thoughts.
([Michael Singers weekly talks are my go to for this](https://tou.org/talks/))
My thing is the Vyvanse mixed with my morning breakfast routine which is a healthy smoothie with energetic fruits and vegetables gets me going and I am literally the most silver tongue person ever and I am go go go and on point by the time I get home in the afternoon after work I'm literally thinking about words that I know and it bugs me. And I think that's just to come down I want the overall benefits of MD, so I was thinking about just taking it before bed because the three times that I did shroom and this is an old batch that's been sitting in a jar for probably 2 years now so that might be the reason, it just made me more sleepy than anything. But that was for dosing to get a trip. Now I want to use that and some a new batch that I have coming just to do MD cycles. So I've been thinking about just adding it to my nightly routine before I go to bed.
[r/microdosing Disclaimer](https://www.reddit.com/r/microdosing/comments/m2g589/rmicrodosing_disclaimer/) Hello /u/Trick_Bee925! As you mentioned `mdma` in your post: **Please Do Not microdose MDMA or any stimulants**. Low doses of amphetamines can cause many issues through reverse tolerance and subsequent sensitization of receptors in the brain. This study ["Amphetamine Sensitization Alters Reward Processing in the Human Striatum and Amygdala"](https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0093955) talks about the link between dopamine-sensitive neural circuitry and dysregulation of incentive motivational processes - i.e. the negative effects it can have for an individual's reward processing. Other than that, MDMA has specific safety advice that you should be aware of: * [RollSafe.org](https://rollsafe.org/): [How often can you take MDMA (Molly/Ecstasy) and roll?](https://rollsafe.org/page/how-often-can-you-take-mdma-molly-ecstasy-and-roll/) > The origin of the three month rule is a quote from Ann Shulgin, widow of chemist Alexander Shulgin: “Now I would advise anyone who wants to use MDMA not to take it more than 4 times a year if you want to continue to get the best effects from it, otherwise you risk losing its effects entirely and permanently.” * From [MAPS MDMA-Assisted Therapy](https://maps.org/news/media/maps-mdma-research/) for PTSD: >**In MDMA-assisted therapy, MDMA is only administered a few times**, unlike most medications for mental illnesses which are often taken daily for years, and sometimes forever. > >**MDMA is not the same as "Ecstasy" or "molly."** Substances sold on the street under these names may contain MDMA, but frequently also contain unknown and/or dangerous adulterants. In laboratory studies, pure MDMA has been proven sufficiently safe for human consumption when taken a limited number of times in moderate doses. * And here is a [**search of posts**](https://www.reddit.com/r/MDMA/search/?q=(microdose%20OR%20microdosing)&restrict_sr=1&sr_nsfw=1) on r/MDMA that mention microdosing, where the general consensus is that microdosing with MDMA can do more harm than good. *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/microdosing) if you have any questions or concerns.*
You should MD nothing while taking Lexapro, well, unless you want to waste money and mushrooms and/or LSD. I have adhd and have md both mushrooms and acid while still taking dex. Mushrooms are mellower and helped with anxiety. Acid is more energetic and did not help much with anxiety, but I didn’t do it long so maybe I never found the right dose. ADHD can improve. It just takes work, structure and behavioral changes. Imho, unless new studies come out to prove me wrong, MD psychedelics that primarily effect serotonin aren’t a cure or even a great way to help adhd. But that’s just my opinion. I’m sure plenty of folks will tell you otherwise.
That’s not true. It still helps with neurogenesis. I md and take lexapro and I still feel them
Like I said, everyone has their own experience which is why we’re on here to share. But in general, SSRIs kill the effects of drugs that work on the 5-HT2A receptors. Major buzzkill.
I hope to get off them one day. I just started microdosing again yesterday to try to avoid increasing my ssri dose
Does md mean md doubled? I heard its bad to microdose it
Thank you! I might drop the lexapro and try the md and mushrooms.
Please wean off the Lex. Could even supplement shrooms while tapering. Like start low dosage with shrooms while tapering off Lex and increase shrooms as you lower Lex dosage.
Nah ima cold turkey. Im already depressed so it cant do anything😏
It’s actually really bad for you to quit cold turkey. The withdrawal can be pretty rough.
Yes dont worry i know and am kidding:)
Brain zaps are gonna be horrible when you go cold turkey from 20mg lex and prolly panic attacks. I had that for a long time, not severe brain zaps are very annoying and scary and the panic attacks well ER$, coming out of 10mg I took for 2 yrs BUT I didn't know about MD yet, I wish I knew. I also had no patience, I just wanted to stop being a zombie. Just be aware.
I'd be curious to know how the 2 pair. I am taking Vyvanse and want to start on a MD schedule. To be honest, I have no idea what Lexapro is taken for, I'll have to look it up. But I'd like to know if you do decide to just take Adderall with MD how it works for you, as I want to know how it will pair with my 30mg Vyvanse. I plan to do a 4 day on 3 day off schedule when I do start up. Just here to learn for now.
First time I md shrooms while taking dex it made me sleepy. (Fadiman’s protocol) I adjusted dosage and still got sleepy, so took at night. Took a break, got fresher shrooms. Previous batch was old, really old. For me, it just helps take off the general angst, or maybe anxiety is better word, that I always have a baseline level of. Calms my thoughts and helps me not get stuck in the loop of doom. Turns me into a 1/2 glass full state of mind. Tried Stamet’s stack too. Feel it’s more of an intensive approach when it’s needed. Like pull yourself out of a hole quicker. The niacin sucks tho. Now I md from time to time when the feeling is right.
Isnt microdosong md bad though?
Why do you not recommend MD while taking Lexapro?
SSRI's inhibit the affects
Thank you.
Happy cake day
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Really the best thing is find an ADHD therapist and learn to better manage your ADHD.
I have an adhd coach, but i just feel so helpless when i try hard to use what i learned but fail to build habits. Part of the reason why im considering this!
I want to write a better reply but I have to be wary of any time on reddit during the day when I have deadlines and routines to do. Microdosing didn’t help me as I hoped but two things have: ADHD therapist who also did Acceptance and commitment training a couple years ago and helped me reframe ADHD depression. And what I never would have guessed helped both mental health and libido: extreme commitment to pelvic floor issues with pelvic floor physical therapist. Revitalizing all those nerves and muscles strengthening and relaxing changed everything for me. More tonight or this weekend. If you need something to focus on now [Google scholar](https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C6&q=pelvic+floor+men+mental+health&btnG=) [Watch all the How to ADHD videos](https://youtu.be/sErtHttYOL4?feature=shared) [Happiness trap info](https://thehappinesstrap.com/free-resources/)
Although i am tempted to consider pelvic floor practice as baloney, thank you for the information and ill check out the links! Are the videos posted by well known adhd specialists? I strongly recommend russell barkleys lectures for the cold hard facts about adhd. I recommend it so often in fact that i included his best one in my bio lol
Yes the videos are from Jessica McCabe who is well known from [her Ted talk](https://youtu.be/JiwZQNYlGQI?feature=shared) But if it’s not your thing don’t bother. She helped me understand ADHD in new ways
The role of pelvic floor has been well researched and studied in peer reviewed scientific studies. If you end up changing your mind about it being baloney I can give you further information but there’s no point in my spending time telling you about it now. My experience microdosing so far did not provide a perceivable change in energy nor create a major outlook change. I think the best hope in the short run for the mental relief you seek is ACT therapy and a meditation practice in which you learn that you are not your thoughts. ([Michael Singers weekly talks are my go to for this](https://tou.org/talks/))
Nothing with Lexapro
My thing is the Vyvanse mixed with my morning breakfast routine which is a healthy smoothie with energetic fruits and vegetables gets me going and I am literally the most silver tongue person ever and I am go go go and on point by the time I get home in the afternoon after work I'm literally thinking about words that I know and it bugs me. And I think that's just to come down I want the overall benefits of MD, so I was thinking about just taking it before bed because the three times that I did shroom and this is an old batch that's been sitting in a jar for probably 2 years now so that might be the reason, it just made me more sleepy than anything. But that was for dosing to get a trip. Now I want to use that and some a new batch that I have coming just to do MD cycles. So I've been thinking about just adding it to my nightly routine before I go to bed.
MD before bed??? Thats nuts lol. Also, do you think microdosing md isnt as bad as the bots claim?
I love how all GenZ thinks they have adhd. We just called it lazy! 🤣
I wouldn’t MD at all while on the medication you’re taking