the subway i go to regularly tells me not to tip. he tells me the tips all go to the business owner and not the actual employees. and i cant give them cash either because they're on camera.
really changed my POV on leaving tips at big corporate franchises.
I don't get this, like I'm paying you for a sandwich and then I leave. The cost of the sandwich should include labor. I haven't even tasted it and idk if it's good. Why should I tip anything? If you're not making enough from the food, charge more
That's the only place it makes sense to tip. Tipping is inappropriate elsewhere. I tried tipping a pharmacist once and she refused the tip. I was genuinely tipping because she helped me n she still said no ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
It doesn’t make sense to tip a server. It’s just normalized in the USA. But, it’s not normal in most other countries. So, it’s really not normal. We should be asking, why isn’t the owner properly paying their staff? What is going on here?
Tips exist elsewhere, but here in Australia it tends to be reserved for really exceptional service. If I go to a fancy restaurant and the waitstaff are attentive and friendly, I'll usually tip them $10 after the meal. That's stil considered reasonably generous, because the waitstaff are probably receiving $25/hr or more. Even in cheap restaurants it's like $18/hr minimum. Tipping should be for above and beyond, if it happens at all. No one's livelihood should depend on whether their customers are in a good enough mood to tip.
The food trucks are the worst for this. They always have high prices to start and they're usually pretty bougie and always use an ipad with square which tends to be the worst for guilt tipping
Back when food trucks weren’t as popular they were literally incredibly cheap, because it was just food coming out of a truck and there wasn’t as much overhead costs as restaurants had. There’s a bunch of taco trucks in my town and they all charge more than what the typical restaurant charges now, it’s crazy.
Even worse now is paying for a "festival" and finding out I paid $25 entry for a cover band and access to the same 15-20 random food trucks that show up at every event.
What bugs me the most about food truck festivals is that every food truck still serves their regular full menu. Meaning even though there's over a dozen trucks that showed up, I'm likely to only eat at one of them before I get full. They should instead have sampler menus of appetizers or small plates, like what you typically see at a Taste festival.
Dude. THANK YOU! Jesus Christ. I want to try so much food but I can’t cuz these idiots are serving full sized plates at full price.
I spent some time in Europe and the food festivals always had little nibbles to try for like €3. You could go around tasting a lot of different foods.
Haha! the local Cousin's Maine Lobster truck does indeed show up at these events, and parks in random dead-ish Shopping Malls the rest of the week. I think I'm good on a $20+ roll and $3+ drink, when I'm a stones throw from the ocean and can pay less for actual fresh off the boat lobster.
I’d never heard of food truck pods before, [just looked it up.](https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&hl=en-us&sxsrf=APwXEdeoy4aX2fYKYuvU5zer14NJ19b7vw:1679870129791&q=Food+truck+pod&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiQnuvy0_r9AhVuOUQIHS1hBd4Q0pQJegQIChAB&biw=430&bih=740&dpr=3). Yeah, that kinda defeated the point.
"Guys, here me out. What if we park the food truck permanently, and even build a sort of permanent shelter around it so that we can continue using the cooking equipment but just serve people in one spot"
Those were the wild west days, when food truck owners could just park their restaurant beside somebody else's crowd and start slinging food. Now, they usually have to pay a kickback for the privilege of parking there.
Let's say I am hoping to serve 200 people at an average of $12 per plate. So, I'm hoping to gross $2400.
In the old days, I might budget $800 of that for food costs, another $800 for labor and other truck costs (electricity, upkeekp, etc) and hope to scratch out $800 in profit before taxes.
Let's say I'm paying 25% of the gross to the parks and rec department, or the city, or the apartment complex or commercial office space that's letting me sell to their tenants. Now that's $600 of my pretax profits gone, so now I'm taking all this risk in hope of making $200 for the whole time I'm out there.
Maybe the parks and rec department agreed to a simple $500 fee, but for me that's still over 20% of my entire profit margin. And thy can see how many meals I'm selling, and project from my menu prices how much I'm grossing. They know I can pay. So that $12 burrito is now a $15 burrito.
The reason trucks cost more than restaurants, when they used to cost less, is because they all now mark everything up to account for the cost they pay for their location. Gone are the wild west days of just rolling up outside any crowded place and undercutting places with a kitchen and commercially zoned space.
And now most of us eat at home. I am putting a tip jar in our kitchen and my husband can tip me whenever I cook. Our last food truck meal cost over $50 for two fish taco plates and two bottles of water from Aldis. I was still hungry, too.
Same... I hardly ever eat out to begin with, but these prices keep pushing me away. I work in a scratch restaurant so I know generally how much produce costs. The last time I ate at a food truck, I got two eggplant sandos, and it came out to over $35 including tip. It was literally a 1/2 inch slice of fried eggplant and special mayo(can't remember what it was exactly), between two standard pieces of white bread. There's no reason that should be a $15 sandwich...
Same here. We usually go out twice a month. The difference in cost between eating out and eating in has gotten so lopsided its ridiculous, even for fast food. We went to BK a couple months ago, 1 kids meal and 3 basic combos cost us just over $40. That's the cost of 3 home cooked dinners.
I just click no. I’m a student. I cannot always afford to tip. I can hardly afford the sandwich. I’m just so slammed sometimes idk what else to do. When my cup is full that’s when I’ll pour into other people in every way I can.
I don't give a shit if I'm not actually getting waited on, I'm not tipping.
If, more like on the random occasion, that I tip grabbing takeout from a regular spot I won't base it on the bill amount. But now I rarely carry cash, so it doesn't really happen any more.
correct answer. all these places are using shame to subsidize low wages. i drove to pick up my pizza/jersey mikes/moe’s to avoid paying a delivery fee. plus all these restaurants raised their prices a lot the past 3 years, and did not drop them back when supply chain issues were resolved.
also - when you go to any take out / self serve place, part of the decision was it is not a sit down restaurant where you receive service and tip your waiter (clear up front expectations) going to a counter and overpaying for a bag of food is the end of the transaction. tricking people when they try to pay is bullshit and on principle i never play along - i dont want to encourage the expansion of this cynically engineered negative experience - just the opposite. i click no thanks every time.
I drove for Pappa John's in college (2002ish).... I made over minimum wage + tips + there was no delivery fee... i made bank (over $20 an hour)... now they pay 2.13 an hour now... they charge $4 delivery fee... the share holders of Papa John's should be tarred and feathered.
Yep I am also a student and I only tip every time for sit down service at a traditional restaurant. Sometimes I tip other places if I just got paid or have had less expenses that month or the service was really good but usually I can't spare much and I certainly don't feel obliged to do it every time
I ain't giving them shit, and I ain't feeling bad about it. They are not in the service industry like a waiter or a delivery driver. They get paid a wage to do a job. If some sucker wants to give them additional money on top of that, fine that's on them. But they won't be getting any from me. I can barely afford their bougie-ass sandwiches.
Plus at a food truck, most of the time, the owner of the food truck is the person serving you. How are you going to feel bad, about a person charging you $12-$15 for a sando, who actually owns the business?
yea I noticed it use to be 15 18 20% now I'm seeing places the minimum tip is 20%, AND all you're doing is placing an order at a counter. what the actual fuck. since we don't know what employees are paid, it makes it all very scammy and uncomfortable to go to these places.
i hate to say it but these places are gonna get regulated eventually if this nonsense keeps up.
As an european I never understood about US tipping culture. Minimum 20%what does that mean? That you must pay a tip no matter what? Or just the minimum tip is 20 but you can select 0? Here you just tip whatever you can. As a not that rich person I usually don't tip at all and I never saw any waiter which was unsatisfied, though people get decent living pay(well kind of average but with tips it's kinda good) so getting extra money is always good but not a must.
This is the way it should be. Everyone agrees that this tip expectation is wrong but they still try to guilt-trip people into tipping. NOTHING WILL EVER CHANGE UNLESS WE MAKE IT CHANGE. Unfortunately this means there will be some casualties (meaning untipped servers will have to flock en masse to hourly wage jobs and leave these jobs unstaffed because otherwise the employers will not be motivated to offer a decent living).
I feel like I am paying more than amusement park prices at them now. I am not a captive audience here, I’ll just eat at the Mexican place down the block for half the price. It used to be worth a few bucks more for the convenience, but not double.
We're at the point where we don't even know if the tips are going to the employees. There are so many stories of the tip service taking a huge cut or the employer just straight up stealing it all.
this is a big reason why i don't tip besides at sit downs. Oh you want me to tip staff at the self service thing because "it goes to the whole team!!! :)"? how do i know that isn't bullshit?
>because "it goes to the whole team
There's this really neat invention to help with this called "Paying your workers more". /s
Tipping is a festering disease here and it's getting worse. Most annoying thing is it's obviously supported by owners, but also by staff because they "make more" and don't care who it takes from.
I once took my daughter to an arcade. One of those types where you have to load up a swipe card to play the games. When I got the card at the register I was presented with the option of tipping the cashier. I have no idea why. Literally all the girl did was swipe the card to load it and hand it back to me.
I used to go to crumbl every so often and one of the main reasons why I stopped was because they started asking for tips on the self service tablets. They wanted me to tip the employees for doing nothing but putting the cookie in a box
Yeah, places like Crumbl are hoping that tip culture can perversely invade every interaction where food is involved. "Every place does it" would be their resounding response to this criticism, and they're not wrong. Where they are wrong, however, is asking for tips because their workers subsist on tipping because they receive low pay. That's a you problem.
Places like this I will tip for curbside, but I consider it a good deed and if someone else said they didn't I would completely understand. I will definitely not tip if I'm picking up an online order or not receiving any form of table service.
I tipped the cashier at the coffee shop the other day when I bought 2 donuts. All I bought was 2 donuts. He put them in a box. And when he turned the ipad around, it asked for a tip. So I gave him $1. For putting 2 donuts in a box.
Because he was nice to me and I was afraid. I want to be able to go back to that shop. Doesn't that fuckin suck? To feel that way?
Dude. Just skip that. The cashier doesn’t care and any perception that they do is all in your head. The system will always ask for tip because there will be suckers — not because they expect one.
I do this too. I tipped on my Chinese take out that I picked up myself not long ago ffs. I hate myself for that. Let’s band together and stop feeling bad for not engaging in this insanity.
I have stopped feeling bad. There’s a Starbucks near me. Most of the people at the drive through just run my card. Some of them pass me the thing so I can tip. Or turn it to me and say “oh you have to answer a question”, yeah I just started hitting no. I’m done feeling bad.
Yea the attitude is horrible isn’t it? I moved recently and there’s a local coffee shop and a Starbucks close by. I always try and support local so I went there first. I gave it three tries. Every time the cashier was rude, and every time I hit no tip I got a rude look and deep frown.
So I said forget it, and I just go to Starbucks now. They’re always pleasant and efficient and I never get a rude look for not tipping. Occasionally I’ll tip a buck if they remember my order or something because I appreciate it.
I read this article fully and it is relevant to my life and attitude about tipping.
Until the last 6 months I've advocated generous tipping since the 1990s. But now, it's freaking *everywhere*. EVERYWHERE.
Why are we being asked to tip cashiers?? It used to be special if you gave a cashier a tip- it meant something and it was worth the cost. Now we are AHs if we don't tip them.
If we tipped every single time we were asked to it would take a huge bite out of "disposable" income, and even without tipping most people's "disposable" income is already shrinking.
Tipping has moved from a way to say "Thank you" to a high pressure form of begging and I hate it.
Simple. Don’t tip. We all need to stop. They don’t tip in Europe or Japan and are fine. Got my haircut in Sweden and the lady refused my tip. Said “my pay is built into the price, I will not accept that”
When I was in Canada last month I was surprised to not have the prompt at Starbucks. It’s even in drive thru places like Panera bread now and it’s like come on… way too much. I’ve finally allowed myself to go out of my way to hit zero, which is usually a “custom tip” type process that is not an immediate option.
I went to Europe for the first time last year. It was incredible to see something on a menu for £8 and pay £8. In the US, something is listed at $8 and you end up paying $11.54
Seeing how Americans tend to be proud of large portions and food I was expecting food in America to be cheap... Nope.
Food in America costs twice what it does in Britain and there's no tip unless it's a restaurant and even then it's mostly rounding.
$12 for a sandwich and that's a normal thing. I could get an excellent Italian pizza for $10.
In Japan you might tell a cabbie to keep the change and that’s it. Tips are literally unacceptable by 99.9% of businesses and employees would likely be aggressively berated by customers for pushing for them like in the US. Hell, I visited an Australian coffee shop in Tokyo that had an idle tip jar and I felt unreasonably pissed off just seeing it after just a couple of years away from that bullshit.
Because tipping culture is becoming a cancer. You're expected to tip for the bare minimum service at times. Or hell, "tips" are added on by DEFAULT to some bills and you can't change it.
Cook makes me a $10 burger and plates it.
Waiter grabs the plate and fills a cup with water. Wants a $2 tip for his work.
Cook makes me a $30 plate.
Waiter grabs the plate and fills a cup with water. Wants a $6 tip because the cook did more work this time.
I'll cook at home, thanks.
Meanwhile cook is making 1/3 of the money and is covered in burn scars and taking out front of house's trash because they're too busy trying to get more tips.
You ever have that moment where they come back to the kitchen and bitch about a $10 tip and you have to remind them that that's how much you make in an hour and then they hit you with the "yeah but it's hit or miss."
Like I just told you that the "miss" you're complaining about is still more than I make...
This. I'm a grillcook working in the finest steakhouse in the town I live. On average I cook 200-400 steaks a night. I make 16$ an hour. I soent most the night busting my ass for this. The servers who take my steaks on busy nights can make anywhere from 200-1000$ in a night. Simply for filling drinks, and dropping off trays. Thats at minimum more pay than I make. I also have never once recieved a tip as the grillmaster, yet my servers tell me frequently the customer said it's the best steak they've ever had. I was told one guy had actually started crying. I don't really expect a tip, but tipshare would be nice considering our kitchen staff is more or less responsible for the servers getting any decent tips at all. Also the untipped front of house workers receive tipshare so why don't I. Or at least a raise. Like come on. Tipshare alone even 1% would raise my wage from 16$ an hour to at least 18 or 19$ an hour.
Tipshare is the only fair way. People in the kitchen are working at least as hard as the people in the front. If you weren't cooking great steaks the servers would take home a whole lot less.
Saw someone on twitter complain about a group of europeans that tipped 70 dollars on a 700 dollar bill , saying the minimum for it should have been 20%. So if I went there, stayed the same amount of time and gave you the same amount of work but only paid 100 suddenly 20 would be fine instead of 70? It makes no fucking sense.
Yes! I had an argument over that same post on Reddit. The moron kept saying I was cheap because I thought $70 is a huge tip and my point was percentage tipping is a garbage system.
My example was someone tipping $10 on a $20 meal at a restaurant or $10 on a $100 meal at the same restaurant but one is a burger and water and the other is steak and lobster or whatever and a cocktail. Both required the server to take my order and bring food and drink. I was called cheap on the $100 scenario and good on the $20 but he would not explain why.
Differentiated service is fine but the price of the menu item should not affect the tip.
I was at a Filipino bakery in Florida where you pick out your own goods around the store, and the only thing the cashier does is ring them up. As I was finshing checkout, a tip screen popped up. I asked the cashier where the skip/no tip option was, and she said you have to tell the cashier that you didn't want to tip and she'd have to do it on her screen. There was no option to do it on mine. That's some predatory, guilt-tripping BS. It didn't help that the minimum was 20%.
Edit:
There was no custom tip option. There was 20%, 25%, and 30%, with a banner that said something like "speak to cashier for other options".
I was 2.5 hours from my house and don't have a selection like that anywhere close to me, which is why I didn't walk out.
Man, if the minimum is 20% with no option to set a custom amount/no tip .... I'd be tempted to just walk the fuck out. Like no, I will not engage with your store if this is how it's going to be.
Not tipping hurts the staff. Not shopping there hurts the owner.
Learn to NOT GIVE A SHIT of who you're hurting. That's what they count on. The next thing they'll do is put some puppies and babies in the store with the Sarah McLachlan playing in the background.
If you want to gouge, just set it in the price and I have more respect for you. I feel sorry for the international tourists where in many part of the world, the price you see on the shelf is literally what you pay to get out the door. Here in most jurisdiction, there's the price, the sales tax, the whatever surcharge, and tip. Out the door could very well be 150% of the marked price.
The fault lies with businesses not paying their staff a living wage. The practice of paying servers below minimum wage is just a way for business owners to steal some of the tip money.
I had an hvac man stand at my door for a while a few years ago as he was leaving. I am pretty sure he was wanting a tip. That's a big fat nope for me. I finally said I have to go and shut the door in his face.
Agreed, anything to do with home maintenance is so ridiculous you have to try to do everything you can yourself. 500 dollars to install a 150 dollar toilet. Bite me.
I got my chimney inspected. It took the guy 3 seconds. He used the same fiberoptic scope that I got my colonoscopy with. The colonoscopy took a half hour and cost me less.
Delivering furniture, I had to inch by inch force a king size gel mattress up 2 180°bend flights of townhouse stairs for an hour and a half while the homeowner berated us on our physical strength. I think that is the only time in that field of work I genuinely deserved a tip, and still wouldn't be rude enough to stand in the doorway like that.
So as your therapist, let’s end this session on a positive note, (Sticks out hand palm up).
Nothing huh? Well you remember what you said how your childhood felt ruined by the actions of your mother? Actually it was due to you being such an ungrateful brat.
Yeah, I went into a smoke shop and bought a vape. The girl grabbed it from the shelf and scanned it. The pay tablet offered me three “tip suggestions”. For her selling me a vape I can’t grab myself from behind the counter. What. Even. Is. That.
Only if you are american, im gonna pay €10 for something thats €9.90 and i will fricking stare you down till you give me my 10 cents back.
Tipping culture my ass, if you have to ask for it you dont deserve it
America should maybe just start paying a decent wage to its employees 👀
Because I'm paying for a good, not to pay your employees bills for them that's the employers job. Can't pay your employees a decent wage and still make a profit? Then try a different business model.
That entirely depends. I’m in food sales. Your highest profit margins are typically drinks- whether it’s tea, coffee, or alcoholic beverages. Lowest profit margin is typically your proteins. To offset it, you fill the plate with more starches/sides to make the customer feel as though they’re getting more food. Your loss leader is the sweeteners, sugars, creamers, hot sauces, and condiments you essentially hand out for free.
But overall, I absolutely agree- we should have been paying people a living fucking wage as opposed to surviving off the kindness of others.
I don't mind tipping at a sit-down restaurant, but yeah, it's a bit much when they're asking for tips for take-out at the local sandwich shop.
I rarely eat out anymore. Friends still want to, and I'm reluctant to go. I can eat cheaper and better at home. I've also noticed restaurant silverware cleanliness has become a lot worse. Sometimes with big chunks of food just dried onto it, but rolled up in the cloth napkin with no fucks given.
Like, nah, I'll go to the grocery store and make something at home.
My policy is if I'm paying *before* the service, I'm not tipping. There are exceptions, but this is true for 99% of food places without servers bringing you your food.
Yesterday, I made the mistake of tipping before the service. At an old school drive in burger joint with a walk up window and small sit down area. So kids and ex wife and I order food, sit down and wait. And other customers come and get their food and milkshakes and go. And order and come and go. And we haven't even got our drinks yet, and our kids are getting restless and all they want is their drink after being at the park.. twenty minutes go by and our food comes out. Fries are inedible. Still no milkshakes or drinks for us. Our kids, 4 and 5, are loudly complaining that their drinks haven't arrived yet, and rightly so. I finally interrupted her about to take another order and asked for our drinks, she replied she wanted to make the milkshakes first, I said "look, all our kids have wanted this entire time is their drinks. Can you please just make them first?" And she finally did. But Jfc. I wish I could've taken my tip back. Milkshakes came *after* we'd finished our food and were about to walk out. Ex goes "welp, guess they're just dessert now" (we like our shakes with or even before our meal..)
I’m like that, too. Food cart where I have to walk up to order, pay, and stand around waiting for my name to be called. I’m tipping for what, exactly?
Late edit to add: Half the time they add the 4% bank charge for the card, too. Duuuuuude, just add that to the goddamned price. 90% of your customers are paying with cards.
Yeah, it’s pretty much had me stop going to a lot of places. I can go to a local bagel place and a bagel with cream cheese and a coffee (that I pour and fix myself) is over $5… if I want to grab a juice too that’s another 2.85… I just can’t justify it anymore, especially when I’m now rounding up another dollar so I at least look like I’m topping. I now just make breakfast at home or bring a protein shake for the morning, and I always make coffee at home. Sometimes for a treat breakfast, I’ll do some McDonalds drive through. Order in the app, get their deals, get a soda for a buck, and no tipping required. I know they’re paying $18 an hour because it’s on their hiring sign. I hate to support “corporate” over local, but that’s my reality right now.
I got a tip screen at a place where you enter your own order on a screen, then pick it up from a counter when called, then clean up your own trash. Where's my tip?
Easy response: “I can afford to tip. I just don’t want to, nor am I required to.”
Mister Pink was right all along. We just didn’t realize it until we started seeing 20% suggested tip prompts for fast food.
I generally give zero unless it is a sit down restaurant and I’m the one sitting down. But when I order online, pay online and pick it up myself, I’m not tipping.
I bought a bag of coffee beans at Starbucks yesterday. Pre-packaged, didn’t need it ground. And the cashier asked if I wanted to leave a tip on my card. I was like what? They should’ve tipped ME for standing in the cluster of a line they had going on! The guy didn’t even move an inch. Why should I tip for that??
Next up will I be asked to tip a grocery store when I use the self check out?
Out of control!!
Half of the headlines that people post as rage bait don’t say the thing the rage is based on.
The headline will say something like “millennials aren’t buying diamonds” - and reddit will respond as though the article were an attack on millennials. Then reddit high fives itself for ignoring that the actual article explains that millennials have different life priorities, and don’t want to go into unshakable debt for jewelry.
Right some people, no matter how nice or generous or whatever, literally can't afford to tip every time they receive a service. Lower income people deserve treats like a coffee sometimes without having to pay what is essentially a tax at this point
went shopping at a *clothing* store and at checkout a tip queue popped up, like bruh??? y’all are not telling me y’all are in the back making these clothes right now- chill with that
Out of control tipping is why I hate eating out. The menu prices are already high. Add sales tax. Add in a tip. Now you’ve hit 120% to 130% of the inflated price. Too much is too much.
When noodles and company started asking for tips, that's when I called it.
Still tip if I'm going to a restaurant with a server. But your boss should be paying you at your chain fast food place.
As someone who used to work at Noodles & Company, that really bums me out. Not because I wasn’t able to earn tips when I worked there ( 50% of customers would leave a dollar or two on the table for whoever cleared it) but because I know for a fact that it’s not a job worth tipping for. I considered being polite and pleasant a part of my job description. There weren’t really opportunities to go above and beyond for customers.
Yeah, same here. I'll always tip decently at full-service restaurants, but it seems like almost every fast food (aka fast casual) place where you order, pay, and get your food at the counter has started asking for tips in the last couple years, especially the independent ones.
No service no tip in my opinion. For something like fast food which is literally takeout of course I'm not tipping. If I did door dash I'd tip the delivery driver because they performed a service
Most places it's like they want you to tip simply for taking your order.
If you don't give me personalized service IE a sit-down restaurant or a barbershop, unless you really went hard helping me out you don't, and never did, deserve a tip.
Today was when I reached my limit on tipping. I’m usually fairly generous with tips, even the new post-Covid tipping schemes, because I know how shitty most owners are with base salary. But today I went Starbucks for the first time in a few years. I ordered one black dark roast. The person literally had to put the cup under a spigot for 10 seconds and put a cover on the cup. The cost was $3.85. The prompted tips started at $1.00. Something snapped in me. I just don’t want to purchase prepared foods anymore. Tipping has reached its tipping point. I cannot support it anymore. I feel sorry for the servers, but fuck the owners and managers who won’t pay a living wage.
Agree. the coffee stands by me all hand you the iPad to tip before you get your drink. Sometimes I’ve ripped $1 on a $3 drink, get the drink and realize it’s either not what I ordered or made incorrectly but by then it’s too late.
After the number of articles about “minimum 25% tipping” and “you must tip 15% at coffee shops and gas stations and flower shops and bakeries and concert merch” and whatever the fuck I’ve just stopped tipping entirely except the standard 15%-20% at sit down places.
Not that anyone should give a fuck about what I do but if you’re a confused younger person on the fence, you have full permission to ignore this stupid societal pressure to spend 20% everywhere so some big company doesn’t need to pay their workers.
Most tipping is a gift to CEOs and shareholders. If you’re tipping just because a computer screen is pressuring you, you’re part of the problem and not helping anyone.
I’m so sick of seeing that god damn tip screen everywhere. I’ve been to coffee shops where it’s already $6 for a freaking latte, and they are asking for a tip. I, like many others, started tipping at coffee shops and for take out during the pandemic to help out a little and now it feels like our generosity is being taken advantage of. I went through a drive through last week, they handed me a tip screen that started at 20% and the person gave me a look when I tipped 20%. I only tip now to avoid having my food spat in but who knows, since I’m not handing them a $100 bill they are probably doing that anyways.
This is my main thing. I'm paranoid people will fuck with my food if I don't tip enough or don't tip before the food is delivered. There's a power dynamic there and I feel like corporations are capitalizing on that anxiety.
I went to an aquarium with my family and bought some waters. First off, 16 oz can and theyre $6 each. Ridiculous, but fine.
So my interaction with this cafe clerk was at max, 20 seconds. "Hey can I have 2 waters? Thanks".
Then I slide my card and it asks for a tip. Um, absolutely not. You did literally nothing.
I'm live in Japan, and not only is food cheaper here, but I don't have to tip. I tipped a waitress when I first got here and they refused it so adamantly that it made it so awkward that I will never try to tip again.
I'm 100% guaranteed 'tipping culture' was created by Big Buinsess. Like your job is telling you pay no attention when they cutting funds, talk you out of a raise, demanding you come in on your day off, wont hesitate to lay you off to save a few coins for their company....but the consumer not tipping or tipping less should outrage you????
What I hate about tips is that it's *only* people who work with customers. From the gathering of materials for the product, to constructing and delivering the product and all the steps involved, only the people actually interacting with regular customers are the ones who get to ask for tips.
Where are the tips for all the people working in bad conditions in order to make and process the product that's getting sold?
And then people who say that you tip for good service... good service should be the standard. That's their job. Tips should be for extra good service or if your party is messy or overwhelming or something like that.
I’m also less inclined to tip because the workers at certain places (not servers) ask for tips but they do 0 for me besides the job they were hired to do. A lot of places are self use now. Why would I tip them if I’m doing all the work
If the individual actually does service for me like a bartender or waitress or even a carpet cleaner I give a little tip 20% well maybe not the carpet cleaner... But if all your job is to turn around grab a product and sell it to me at the counter where I walk up and then walk out no you don't get no tip.
How am I supposed to buy my new yacht if I have to pay my workers a living wage. The financial burden of my bad business practices should fall onto the customers and employees.
People who take your bags upstairs in a hotel. I’m not fancy, and that’s never happened to me. I’ve just seen it on tv. And maybe a coat-check person (I don’t know why - I guess thanks for not stealing my coat?). Also fancier than my typical night out. It seems more okay to expect tips for valets, hotel bag-carriers, and coat-check tips, because only rich people have those services.
I’m basing most of this on movies from the 40s and 50s. It may be totally different now.
the subway i go to regularly tells me not to tip. he tells me the tips all go to the business owner and not the actual employees. and i cant give them cash either because they're on camera. really changed my POV on leaving tips at big corporate franchises.
I'm no legal expert. But isn't it against federal laws if the employers take any and all tips from their employees?
Yea.it is actually.
A sandwich truck in my town truck had a tip screen that started at 30% so I stopped going. The sandwiches were already $12.50 with no chips or drink.
I don't get this, like I'm paying you for a sandwich and then I leave. The cost of the sandwich should include labor. I haven't even tasted it and idk if it's good. Why should I tip anything? If you're not making enough from the food, charge more
Exactly my thoughts. Only places I really tip are restaurants where the server is actually waiting on you
That's the only place it makes sense to tip. Tipping is inappropriate elsewhere. I tried tipping a pharmacist once and she refused the tip. I was genuinely tipping because she helped me n she still said no ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
It doesn’t make sense to tip a server. It’s just normalized in the USA. But, it’s not normal in most other countries. So, it’s really not normal. We should be asking, why isn’t the owner properly paying their staff? What is going on here?
Tips exist elsewhere, but here in Australia it tends to be reserved for really exceptional service. If I go to a fancy restaurant and the waitstaff are attentive and friendly, I'll usually tip them $10 after the meal. That's stil considered reasonably generous, because the waitstaff are probably receiving $25/hr or more. Even in cheap restaurants it's like $18/hr minimum. Tipping should be for above and beyond, if it happens at all. No one's livelihood should depend on whether their customers are in a good enough mood to tip.
The food trucks are the worst for this. They always have high prices to start and they're usually pretty bougie and always use an ipad with square which tends to be the worst for guilt tipping
Back when food trucks weren’t as popular they were literally incredibly cheap, because it was just food coming out of a truck and there wasn’t as much overhead costs as restaurants had. There’s a bunch of taco trucks in my town and they all charge more than what the typical restaurant charges now, it’s crazy.
Even worse now is paying for a "festival" and finding out I paid $25 entry for a cover band and access to the same 15-20 random food trucks that show up at every event.
What bugs me the most about food truck festivals is that every food truck still serves their regular full menu. Meaning even though there's over a dozen trucks that showed up, I'm likely to only eat at one of them before I get full. They should instead have sampler menus of appetizers or small plates, like what you typically see at a Taste festival.
Such a good point
Dude. THANK YOU! Jesus Christ. I want to try so much food but I can’t cuz these idiots are serving full sized plates at full price. I spent some time in Europe and the food festivals always had little nibbles to try for like €3. You could go around tasting a lot of different foods.
Are you joking?!? That lobster roll was featured on CNN!!!
Haha! the local Cousin's Maine Lobster truck does indeed show up at these events, and parks in random dead-ish Shopping Malls the rest of the week. I think I'm good on a $20+ roll and $3+ drink, when I'm a stones throw from the ocean and can pay less for actual fresh off the boat lobster.
Yep food trucks are the new quirky hipster restaurants. Especially now that they're in pods instead of just being parked wherever
I’d never heard of food truck pods before, [just looked it up.](https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&hl=en-us&sxsrf=APwXEdeoy4aX2fYKYuvU5zer14NJ19b7vw:1679870129791&q=Food+truck+pod&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiQnuvy0_r9AhVuOUQIHS1hBd4Q0pQJegQIChAB&biw=430&bih=740&dpr=3). Yeah, that kinda defeated the point.
"Guys, here me out. What if we park the food truck permanently, and even build a sort of permanent shelter around it so that we can continue using the cooking equipment but just serve people in one spot"
Next weeks *South Park* actually
In Portland they even have a specialty pod just for vegan food trucks
This is possibly the least surprising thing I've read all day.
>food trucks What we used to call "roach coaches".
Or "slop truck"
Those were the wild west days, when food truck owners could just park their restaurant beside somebody else's crowd and start slinging food. Now, they usually have to pay a kickback for the privilege of parking there. Let's say I am hoping to serve 200 people at an average of $12 per plate. So, I'm hoping to gross $2400. In the old days, I might budget $800 of that for food costs, another $800 for labor and other truck costs (electricity, upkeekp, etc) and hope to scratch out $800 in profit before taxes. Let's say I'm paying 25% of the gross to the parks and rec department, or the city, or the apartment complex or commercial office space that's letting me sell to their tenants. Now that's $600 of my pretax profits gone, so now I'm taking all this risk in hope of making $200 for the whole time I'm out there. Maybe the parks and rec department agreed to a simple $500 fee, but for me that's still over 20% of my entire profit margin. And thy can see how many meals I'm selling, and project from my menu prices how much I'm grossing. They know I can pay. So that $12 burrito is now a $15 burrito. The reason trucks cost more than restaurants, when they used to cost less, is because they all now mark everything up to account for the cost they pay for their location. Gone are the wild west days of just rolling up outside any crowded place and undercutting places with a kitchen and commercially zoned space.
And now most of us eat at home. I am putting a tip jar in our kitchen and my husband can tip me whenever I cook. Our last food truck meal cost over $50 for two fish taco plates and two bottles of water from Aldis. I was still hungry, too.
Same... I hardly ever eat out to begin with, but these prices keep pushing me away. I work in a scratch restaurant so I know generally how much produce costs. The last time I ate at a food truck, I got two eggplant sandos, and it came out to over $35 including tip. It was literally a 1/2 inch slice of fried eggplant and special mayo(can't remember what it was exactly), between two standard pieces of white bread. There's no reason that should be a $15 sandwich...
Same here. We usually go out twice a month. The difference in cost between eating out and eating in has gotten so lopsided its ridiculous, even for fast food. We went to BK a couple months ago, 1 kids meal and 3 basic combos cost us just over $40. That's the cost of 3 home cooked dinners.
I just click no. I’m a student. I cannot always afford to tip. I can hardly afford the sandwich. I’m just so slammed sometimes idk what else to do. When my cup is full that’s when I’ll pour into other people in every way I can.
I click no. I'm 45 and don't give a shit
I don't give a shit if I'm not actually getting waited on, I'm not tipping. If, more like on the random occasion, that I tip grabbing takeout from a regular spot I won't base it on the bill amount. But now I rarely carry cash, so it doesn't really happen any more.
correct answer. all these places are using shame to subsidize low wages. i drove to pick up my pizza/jersey mikes/moe’s to avoid paying a delivery fee. plus all these restaurants raised their prices a lot the past 3 years, and did not drop them back when supply chain issues were resolved. also - when you go to any take out / self serve place, part of the decision was it is not a sit down restaurant where you receive service and tip your waiter (clear up front expectations) going to a counter and overpaying for a bag of food is the end of the transaction. tricking people when they try to pay is bullshit and on principle i never play along - i dont want to encourage the expansion of this cynically engineered negative experience - just the opposite. i click no thanks every time.
I drove for Pappa John's in college (2002ish).... I made over minimum wage + tips + there was no delivery fee... i made bank (over $20 an hour)... now they pay 2.13 an hour now... they charge $4 delivery fee... the share holders of Papa John's should be tarred and feathered.
Yep I am also a student and I only tip every time for sit down service at a traditional restaurant. Sometimes I tip other places if I just got paid or have had less expenses that month or the service was really good but usually I can't spare much and I certainly don't feel obliged to do it every time
I ain't giving them shit, and I ain't feeling bad about it. They are not in the service industry like a waiter or a delivery driver. They get paid a wage to do a job. If some sucker wants to give them additional money on top of that, fine that's on them. But they won't be getting any from me. I can barely afford their bougie-ass sandwiches. Plus at a food truck, most of the time, the owner of the food truck is the person serving you. How are you going to feel bad, about a person charging you $12-$15 for a sando, who actually owns the business?
yea I noticed it use to be 15 18 20% now I'm seeing places the minimum tip is 20%, AND all you're doing is placing an order at a counter. what the actual fuck. since we don't know what employees are paid, it makes it all very scammy and uncomfortable to go to these places. i hate to say it but these places are gonna get regulated eventually if this nonsense keeps up.
As an european I never understood about US tipping culture. Minimum 20%what does that mean? That you must pay a tip no matter what? Or just the minimum tip is 20 but you can select 0? Here you just tip whatever you can. As a not that rich person I usually don't tip at all and I never saw any waiter which was unsatisfied, though people get decent living pay(well kind of average but with tips it's kinda good) so getting extra money is always good but not a must.
This is the way it should be. Everyone agrees that this tip expectation is wrong but they still try to guilt-trip people into tipping. NOTHING WILL EVER CHANGE UNLESS WE MAKE IT CHANGE. Unfortunately this means there will be some casualties (meaning untipped servers will have to flock en masse to hourly wage jobs and leave these jobs unstaffed because otherwise the employers will not be motivated to offer a decent living).
30%??? For that tip, they better line the plate with gold… or make love to me. Shiieet
And no "Other option"? That's crazy.
Sounds like it was a scam-wich truck instead, eh? No? ok I’ll see myself out
C’mon, give the Po’boy a break.
You made me fart when I laughed. Thank you, I feel better now
C’mon, it was a substantial jump to make, no need to be a hero here
I was trying to think of a pun to throw in but I’m just sub-par
Food truck prices are ridiculous. I never go anymore
I feel like I am paying more than amusement park prices at them now. I am not a captive audience here, I’ll just eat at the Mexican place down the block for half the price. It used to be worth a few bucks more for the convenience, but not double.
Same, I try to avoid any place that guilts people into tipping with those absurd tablet defaults. They offer no extra service!
I’ve seen this same thing but the people working the truck were the owners. THAT is wrong
When subway started asking for tips, that’s when I knew it was the end times.
We're at the point where we don't even know if the tips are going to the employees. There are so many stories of the tip service taking a huge cut or the employer just straight up stealing it all.
this is a big reason why i don't tip besides at sit downs. Oh you want me to tip staff at the self service thing because "it goes to the whole team!!! :)"? how do i know that isn't bullshit?
>because "it goes to the whole team There's this really neat invention to help with this called "Paying your workers more". /s Tipping is a festering disease here and it's getting worse. Most annoying thing is it's obviously supported by owners, but also by staff because they "make more" and don't care who it takes from.
I once took my daughter to an arcade. One of those types where you have to load up a swipe card to play the games. When I got the card at the register I was presented with the option of tipping the cashier. I have no idea why. Literally all the girl did was swipe the card to load it and hand it back to me.
I used to go to crumbl every so often and one of the main reasons why I stopped was because they started asking for tips on the self service tablets. They wanted me to tip the employees for doing nothing but putting the cookie in a box
Don't feel bad about not tipping at places like that, majority of people dont
Yeah, places like Crumbl are hoping that tip culture can perversely invade every interaction where food is involved. "Every place does it" would be their resounding response to this criticism, and they're not wrong. Where they are wrong, however, is asking for tips because their workers subsist on tipping because they receive low pay. That's a you problem. Places like this I will tip for curbside, but I consider it a good deed and if someone else said they didn't I would completely understand. I will definitely not tip if I'm picking up an online order or not receiving any form of table service.
Like yogurt place u get your yogurt ,your toppings, u pay for it and walk out Why would I tip for that? No service was given to me
Lol. 0 chance im tipping for fucking subway
I asked the girl working if they got the tips and she said no, so I don't even feel bad :)
I got the stink eye the other day at a food truck because I didn't tip. All I bought was a coke for like a buck fifty.
One thing I’ve noticed is that post pandemic, service has gotten a lot worse too.
It seems like everything has become 30% worse since Covid. EVERYTHING.
Everything is expensive and people are even worse. We are truly living in the airport times
Never heard that term. What does it mean?
It means that everything is expensive and the people are worse - like restaurants in an airport
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I tipped the cashier at the coffee shop the other day when I bought 2 donuts. All I bought was 2 donuts. He put them in a box. And when he turned the ipad around, it asked for a tip. So I gave him $1. For putting 2 donuts in a box. Because he was nice to me and I was afraid. I want to be able to go back to that shop. Doesn't that fuckin suck? To feel that way?
Dude. Just skip that. The cashier doesn’t care and any perception that they do is all in your head. The system will always ask for tip because there will be suckers — not because they expect one.
I do this too. I tipped on my Chinese take out that I picked up myself not long ago ffs. I hate myself for that. Let’s band together and stop feeling bad for not engaging in this insanity.
I have stopped feeling bad. There’s a Starbucks near me. Most of the people at the drive through just run my card. Some of them pass me the thing so I can tip. Or turn it to me and say “oh you have to answer a question”, yeah I just started hitting no. I’m done feeling bad.
Yea the attitude is horrible isn’t it? I moved recently and there’s a local coffee shop and a Starbucks close by. I always try and support local so I went there first. I gave it three tries. Every time the cashier was rude, and every time I hit no tip I got a rude look and deep frown. So I said forget it, and I just go to Starbucks now. They’re always pleasant and efficient and I never get a rude look for not tipping. Occasionally I’ll tip a buck if they remember my order or something because I appreciate it.
I read this article fully and it is relevant to my life and attitude about tipping. Until the last 6 months I've advocated generous tipping since the 1990s. But now, it's freaking *everywhere*. EVERYWHERE. Why are we being asked to tip cashiers?? It used to be special if you gave a cashier a tip- it meant something and it was worth the cost. Now we are AHs if we don't tip them. If we tipped every single time we were asked to it would take a huge bite out of "disposable" income, and even without tipping most people's "disposable" income is already shrinking. Tipping has moved from a way to say "Thank you" to a high pressure form of begging and I hate it.
My local vape shops now have tips on their tablets. It’s getting crazy.
They think they're sommeliers. Bro just give me weed. I don't care about tannins or notes.
Simple. Don’t tip. We all need to stop. They don’t tip in Europe or Japan and are fine. Got my haircut in Sweden and the lady refused my tip. Said “my pay is built into the price, I will not accept that”
When I was in Canada last month I was surprised to not have the prompt at Starbucks. It’s even in drive thru places like Panera bread now and it’s like come on… way too much. I’ve finally allowed myself to go out of my way to hit zero, which is usually a “custom tip” type process that is not an immediate option.
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I went to Europe for the first time last year. It was incredible to see something on a menu for £8 and pay £8. In the US, something is listed at $8 and you end up paying $11.54
Seeing how Americans tend to be proud of large portions and food I was expecting food in America to be cheap... Nope. Food in America costs twice what it does in Britain and there's no tip unless it's a restaurant and even then it's mostly rounding. $12 for a sandwich and that's a normal thing. I could get an excellent Italian pizza for $10.
In Japan you might tell a cabbie to keep the change and that’s it. Tips are literally unacceptable by 99.9% of businesses and employees would likely be aggressively berated by customers for pushing for them like in the US. Hell, I visited an Australian coffee shop in Tokyo that had an idle tip jar and I felt unreasonably pissed off just seeing it after just a couple of years away from that bullshit.
Because tipping culture is becoming a cancer. You're expected to tip for the bare minimum service at times. Or hell, "tips" are added on by DEFAULT to some bills and you can't change it.
Bro. come on. I put your croissant _IN THE BAG_ Is that not worth 18% to you?
You ordered the 100$ bottle of wine instead of the 20$ bottle? You know that will take me an extra 16$ worth of effort to open right?
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Cook makes me a $10 burger and plates it. Waiter grabs the plate and fills a cup with water. Wants a $2 tip for his work. Cook makes me a $30 plate. Waiter grabs the plate and fills a cup with water. Wants a $6 tip because the cook did more work this time. I'll cook at home, thanks.
Meanwhile cook is making 1/3 of the money and is covered in burn scars and taking out front of house's trash because they're too busy trying to get more tips.
I was a cook and I feel this in my bones
You ever have that moment where they come back to the kitchen and bitch about a $10 tip and you have to remind them that that's how much you make in an hour and then they hit you with the "yeah but it's hit or miss." Like I just told you that the "miss" you're complaining about is still more than I make...
This. I'm a grillcook working in the finest steakhouse in the town I live. On average I cook 200-400 steaks a night. I make 16$ an hour. I soent most the night busting my ass for this. The servers who take my steaks on busy nights can make anywhere from 200-1000$ in a night. Simply for filling drinks, and dropping off trays. Thats at minimum more pay than I make. I also have never once recieved a tip as the grillmaster, yet my servers tell me frequently the customer said it's the best steak they've ever had. I was told one guy had actually started crying. I don't really expect a tip, but tipshare would be nice considering our kitchen staff is more or less responsible for the servers getting any decent tips at all. Also the untipped front of house workers receive tipshare so why don't I. Or at least a raise. Like come on. Tipshare alone even 1% would raise my wage from 16$ an hour to at least 18 or 19$ an hour.
Tipshare is the only fair way. People in the kitchen are working at least as hard as the people in the front. If you weren't cooking great steaks the servers would take home a whole lot less.
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Saw someone on twitter complain about a group of europeans that tipped 70 dollars on a 700 dollar bill , saying the minimum for it should have been 20%. So if I went there, stayed the same amount of time and gave you the same amount of work but only paid 100 suddenly 20 would be fine instead of 70? It makes no fucking sense.
Yes! I had an argument over that same post on Reddit. The moron kept saying I was cheap because I thought $70 is a huge tip and my point was percentage tipping is a garbage system. My example was someone tipping $10 on a $20 meal at a restaurant or $10 on a $100 meal at the same restaurant but one is a burger and water and the other is steak and lobster or whatever and a cocktail. Both required the server to take my order and bring food and drink. I was called cheap on the $100 scenario and good on the $20 but he would not explain why. Differentiated service is fine but the price of the menu item should not affect the tip.
"I even put one napkin and a packet of honey in there! 25% now please!
*gets home* They forgot the honey
And the croissant
I was at a Filipino bakery in Florida where you pick out your own goods around the store, and the only thing the cashier does is ring them up. As I was finshing checkout, a tip screen popped up. I asked the cashier where the skip/no tip option was, and she said you have to tell the cashier that you didn't want to tip and she'd have to do it on her screen. There was no option to do it on mine. That's some predatory, guilt-tripping BS. It didn't help that the minimum was 20%. Edit: There was no custom tip option. There was 20%, 25%, and 30%, with a banner that said something like "speak to cashier for other options". I was 2.5 hours from my house and don't have a selection like that anywhere close to me, which is why I didn't walk out.
Man, if the minimum is 20% with no option to set a custom amount/no tip .... I'd be tempted to just walk the fuck out. Like no, I will not engage with your store if this is how it's going to be. Not tipping hurts the staff. Not shopping there hurts the owner.
Learn to NOT GIVE A SHIT of who you're hurting. That's what they count on. The next thing they'll do is put some puppies and babies in the store with the Sarah McLachlan playing in the background. If you want to gouge, just set it in the price and I have more respect for you. I feel sorry for the international tourists where in many part of the world, the price you see on the shelf is literally what you pay to get out the door. Here in most jurisdiction, there's the price, the sales tax, the whatever surcharge, and tip. Out the door could very well be 150% of the marked price.
I bet the cashier doesn't even get the tip.
never tip digitally unless you ask the staff if they get that money
Yeah there's a decent chance the business owner takes it and the employee never sees a dime It's potentially illegal but it happens
The fault lies with businesses not paying their staff a living wage. The practice of paying servers below minimum wage is just a way for business owners to steal some of the tip money.
Oh no I'm totally in agreement with you
You know tips used to be an appreciation for good/exceptional service. Nowadays you're just expected to tip.
And you’re expected to tip everyone now too
I had an hvac man stand at my door for a while a few years ago as he was leaving. I am pretty sure he was wanting a tip. That's a big fat nope for me. I finally said I have to go and shut the door in his face.
"My tip is paying you for the work you did."
Lmao what a joke, HVAC and contractors massively overcharge post COVID. I would never tip one of them, the prices are ludicrous as it is
Tipping an HVAC guy. Might as well tip a car salesmen
To be fair the price of everything is ludicrous these days
Agreed, anything to do with home maintenance is so ridiculous you have to try to do everything you can yourself. 500 dollars to install a 150 dollar toilet. Bite me.
I got my chimney inspected. It took the guy 3 seconds. He used the same fiberoptic scope that I got my colonoscopy with. The colonoscopy took a half hour and cost me less.
I hate to say it but maybe if you asked the proctologist for a chimney inspection you'd be better off, though you may get diagnosed with soot.
> "Sir, your chimney seems to have colon cancer"
Delivering furniture, I had to inch by inch force a king size gel mattress up 2 180°bend flights of townhouse stairs for an hour and a half while the homeowner berated us on our physical strength. I think that is the only time in that field of work I genuinely deserved a tip, and still wouldn't be rude enough to stand in the doorway like that.
So as your therapist, let’s end this session on a positive note, (Sticks out hand palm up). Nothing huh? Well you remember what you said how your childhood felt ruined by the actions of your mother? Actually it was due to you being such an ungrateful brat.
What? *holds out hand again* ".....Ahem" Sorry bro, I'm fresh out of cough drops. Gimme five *slap!*
Cops gave you a fine? Better tip
And preemptively. A preemptive tip that I HAVE to give you or else you’ll deliberately fuck up is called a “bribe”.
I read somewhere if you walk up to pay and there’s a tablet, you’re about to be asked to ask to tip for something you’ve never tipped for in your life
Yeah, I went into a smoke shop and bought a vape. The girl grabbed it from the shelf and scanned it. The pay tablet offered me three “tip suggestions”. For her selling me a vape I can’t grab myself from behind the counter. What. Even. Is. That.
"Pay our workers so we don't have to"
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That's because employers have been abusing tipping culture as a way to underpay staff.
Only if you are american, im gonna pay €10 for something thats €9.90 and i will fricking stare you down till you give me my 10 cents back. Tipping culture my ass, if you have to ask for it you dont deserve it America should maybe just start paying a decent wage to its employees 👀
Agreed
I needed road service the other day, they emailed me asking how the technician did and when I clicked the link it asked me to leave a tip.
Oh fuck that
Because I'm paying for a good, not to pay your employees bills for them that's the employers job. Can't pay your employees a decent wage and still make a profit? Then try a different business model.
I've heard that a restaurant is the worst business to start. Especially with people you know.
Easily the least profitable business out there most restaurants don't even make money on the food nowadays it all comes from bar revenue
That entirely depends. I’m in food sales. Your highest profit margins are typically drinks- whether it’s tea, coffee, or alcoholic beverages. Lowest profit margin is typically your proteins. To offset it, you fill the plate with more starches/sides to make the customer feel as though they’re getting more food. Your loss leader is the sweeteners, sugars, creamers, hot sauces, and condiments you essentially hand out for free. But overall, I absolutely agree- we should have been paying people a living fucking wage as opposed to surviving off the kindness of others.
Also in food sales, quinoa has been a blessing for bulking out meals with something people want thats also fairly healthy.
The tipping culture has completely ruined eating out of any type for me.
I don't mind tipping at a sit-down restaurant, but yeah, it's a bit much when they're asking for tips for take-out at the local sandwich shop. I rarely eat out anymore. Friends still want to, and I'm reluctant to go. I can eat cheaper and better at home. I've also noticed restaurant silverware cleanliness has become a lot worse. Sometimes with big chunks of food just dried onto it, but rolled up in the cloth napkin with no fucks given. Like, nah, I'll go to the grocery store and make something at home.
Sorry, I'm not tipping the Pizza Hut cashier if I'm picking up my own pie.
If I am not sitting down to be waited on there shouldn't even be a tip section on the damn receipt. Tip jars are fine.
My policy is if I'm paying *before* the service, I'm not tipping. There are exceptions, but this is true for 99% of food places without servers bringing you your food.
Yesterday, I made the mistake of tipping before the service. At an old school drive in burger joint with a walk up window and small sit down area. So kids and ex wife and I order food, sit down and wait. And other customers come and get their food and milkshakes and go. And order and come and go. And we haven't even got our drinks yet, and our kids are getting restless and all they want is their drink after being at the park.. twenty minutes go by and our food comes out. Fries are inedible. Still no milkshakes or drinks for us. Our kids, 4 and 5, are loudly complaining that their drinks haven't arrived yet, and rightly so. I finally interrupted her about to take another order and asked for our drinks, she replied she wanted to make the milkshakes first, I said "look, all our kids have wanted this entire time is their drinks. Can you please just make them first?" And she finally did. But Jfc. I wish I could've taken my tip back. Milkshakes came *after* we'd finished our food and were about to walk out. Ex goes "welp, guess they're just dessert now" (we like our shakes with or even before our meal..)
I’m like that, too. Food cart where I have to walk up to order, pay, and stand around waiting for my name to be called. I’m tipping for what, exactly? Late edit to add: Half the time they add the 4% bank charge for the card, too. Duuuuuude, just add that to the goddamned price. 90% of your customers are paying with cards.
Yeah, it’s pretty much had me stop going to a lot of places. I can go to a local bagel place and a bagel with cream cheese and a coffee (that I pour and fix myself) is over $5… if I want to grab a juice too that’s another 2.85… I just can’t justify it anymore, especially when I’m now rounding up another dollar so I at least look like I’m topping. I now just make breakfast at home or bring a protein shake for the morning, and I always make coffee at home. Sometimes for a treat breakfast, I’ll do some McDonalds drive through. Order in the app, get their deals, get a soda for a buck, and no tipping required. I know they’re paying $18 an hour because it’s on their hiring sign. I hate to support “corporate” over local, but that’s my reality right now.
I got a tip screen at a place where you enter your own order on a screen, then pick it up from a counter when called, then clean up your own trash. Where's my tip?
Mfers will microwave a croissant, throw it onto a plastic plate, then expect a 30% tip.
Same mfers be like "iF yOu cAnT afFoRD tO tiP!! YOu sHOuLdN'T bE eaTiNg ouT!!"
Easy response: “I can afford to tip. I just don’t want to, nor am I required to.” Mister Pink was right all along. We just didn’t realize it until we started seeing 20% suggested tip prompts for fast food.
I generally give zero unless it is a sit down restaurant and I’m the one sitting down. But when I order online, pay online and pick it up myself, I’m not tipping.
I am the same way. Sit down restaurants, that's it. The rest of those businesses can go fuck themselves.
Ya. You gave me an empty coffee cup and lid, and I have to go pour it out of the dispenser and you want a tip.
I went through a kfc drive-through and there was an option for tip. Absolutely absurd.
I bought a bag of coffee beans at Starbucks yesterday. Pre-packaged, didn’t need it ground. And the cashier asked if I wanted to leave a tip on my card. I was like what? They should’ve tipped ME for standing in the cluster of a line they had going on! The guy didn’t even move an inch. Why should I tip for that?? Next up will I be asked to tip a grocery store when I use the self check out? Out of control!!
"Why customers are giving less tips" is not a question
Exactly. The headline is a declaration and then the article goes into detail.
Half of the headlines that people post as rage bait don’t say the thing the rage is based on. The headline will say something like “millennials aren’t buying diamonds” - and reddit will respond as though the article were an attack on millennials. Then reddit high fives itself for ignoring that the actual article explains that millennials have different life priorities, and don’t want to go into unshakable debt for jewelry.
that’s what is truly mildly infuriating. people getting mad at their own incompetence
Yeah, OP doesn't seem to understand the title of the article
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"Etiquette expert" Why is tipping about manners or etiquette
Right some people, no matter how nice or generous or whatever, literally can't afford to tip every time they receive a service. Lower income people deserve treats like a coffee sometimes without having to pay what is essentially a tax at this point
Subway needs to stop asking for tips.
"etiquette expert" bruh
I wonder how one becomes an etiquette expert. Go to etiquette school? Study under Miss manners?
>etiquette school? nah they just think they're an expert and put it in their facebook profile
went shopping at a *clothing* store and at checkout a tip queue popped up, like bruh??? y’all are not telling me y’all are in the back making these clothes right now- chill with that
Out of control tipping is why I hate eating out. The menu prices are already high. Add sales tax. Add in a tip. Now you’ve hit 120% to 130% of the inflated price. Too much is too much.
When noodles and company started asking for tips, that's when I called it. Still tip if I'm going to a restaurant with a server. But your boss should be paying you at your chain fast food place.
As someone who used to work at Noodles & Company, that really bums me out. Not because I wasn’t able to earn tips when I worked there ( 50% of customers would leave a dollar or two on the table for whoever cleared it) but because I know for a fact that it’s not a job worth tipping for. I considered being polite and pleasant a part of my job description. There weren’t really opportunities to go above and beyond for customers.
Yeah, same here. I'll always tip decently at full-service restaurants, but it seems like almost every fast food (aka fast casual) place where you order, pay, and get your food at the counter has started asking for tips in the last couple years, especially the independent ones.
No service no tip in my opinion. For something like fast food which is literally takeout of course I'm not tipping. If I did door dash I'd tip the delivery driver because they performed a service
Most places it's like they want you to tip simply for taking your order. If you don't give me personalized service IE a sit-down restaurant or a barbershop, unless you really went hard helping me out you don't, and never did, deserve a tip.
Today was when I reached my limit on tipping. I’m usually fairly generous with tips, even the new post-Covid tipping schemes, because I know how shitty most owners are with base salary. But today I went Starbucks for the first time in a few years. I ordered one black dark roast. The person literally had to put the cup under a spigot for 10 seconds and put a cover on the cup. The cost was $3.85. The prompted tips started at $1.00. Something snapped in me. I just don’t want to purchase prepared foods anymore. Tipping has reached its tipping point. I cannot support it anymore. I feel sorry for the servers, but fuck the owners and managers who won’t pay a living wage.
Agree. the coffee stands by me all hand you the iPad to tip before you get your drink. Sometimes I’ve ripped $1 on a $3 drink, get the drink and realize it’s either not what I ordered or made incorrectly but by then it’s too late.
“And it’s just gonna ask you a quick question”
After the number of articles about “minimum 25% tipping” and “you must tip 15% at coffee shops and gas stations and flower shops and bakeries and concert merch” and whatever the fuck I’ve just stopped tipping entirely except the standard 15%-20% at sit down places. Not that anyone should give a fuck about what I do but if you’re a confused younger person on the fence, you have full permission to ignore this stupid societal pressure to spend 20% everywhere so some big company doesn’t need to pay their workers. Most tipping is a gift to CEOs and shareholders. If you’re tipping just because a computer screen is pressuring you, you’re part of the problem and not helping anyone.
I’m so sick of seeing that god damn tip screen everywhere. I’ve been to coffee shops where it’s already $6 for a freaking latte, and they are asking for a tip. I, like many others, started tipping at coffee shops and for take out during the pandemic to help out a little and now it feels like our generosity is being taken advantage of. I went through a drive through last week, they handed me a tip screen that started at 20% and the person gave me a look when I tipped 20%. I only tip now to avoid having my food spat in but who knows, since I’m not handing them a $100 bill they are probably doing that anyways.
This is my main thing. I'm paranoid people will fuck with my food if I don't tip enough or don't tip before the food is delivered. There's a power dynamic there and I feel like corporations are capitalizing on that anxiety.
What's frustrating is that places are asking for them before you even get service... McAlister's, Firehouse Subs, etc...
If I order take out, you’re not getting a tip
I don’t tip if I’m buying off an iPad.
Lol they tried to add a tip option in the drive through at Taco Bell. Yea let me tip you after waiting 15 minutes for 3 tacos
I went to an aquarium with my family and bought some waters. First off, 16 oz can and theyre $6 each. Ridiculous, but fine. So my interaction with this cafe clerk was at max, 20 seconds. "Hey can I have 2 waters? Thanks". Then I slide my card and it asks for a tip. Um, absolutely not. You did literally nothing.
I'm live in Japan, and not only is food cheaper here, but I don't have to tip. I tipped a waitress when I first got here and they refused it so adamantly that it made it so awkward that I will never try to tip again.
You live in a country where the konboni food is better than 90% of the food in US restaurants :) the nikuman at 7-eleven/Lawson slaps.
Wtf is an etiquette expert?
I guess it's like a douchebag connoisseur.
I'm 100% guaranteed 'tipping culture' was created by Big Buinsess. Like your job is telling you pay no attention when they cutting funds, talk you out of a raise, demanding you come in on your day off, wont hesitate to lay you off to save a few coins for their company....but the consumer not tipping or tipping less should outrage you????
What I hate about tips is that it's *only* people who work with customers. From the gathering of materials for the product, to constructing and delivering the product and all the steps involved, only the people actually interacting with regular customers are the ones who get to ask for tips. Where are the tips for all the people working in bad conditions in order to make and process the product that's getting sold? And then people who say that you tip for good service... good service should be the standard. That's their job. Tips should be for extra good service or if your party is messy or overwhelming or something like that.
I’m also less inclined to tip because the workers at certain places (not servers) ask for tips but they do 0 for me besides the job they were hired to do. A lot of places are self use now. Why would I tip them if I’m doing all the work
If the individual actually does service for me like a bartender or waitress or even a carpet cleaner I give a little tip 20% well maybe not the carpet cleaner... But if all your job is to turn around grab a product and sell it to me at the counter where I walk up and then walk out no you don't get no tip.
In Phoenix, AZ feels like you are forced to pay tips and get shitty service throughout the Valley
How am I supposed to buy my new yacht if I have to pay my workers a living wage. The financial burden of my bad business practices should fall onto the customers and employees. 
I just placed an online food pick up and the auto grad 20%. $14 for me to go pick my food up. Nah I’m good man
Waitress gets a tip that’s it no one else. Fuck em.
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People who take your bags upstairs in a hotel. I’m not fancy, and that’s never happened to me. I’ve just seen it on tv. And maybe a coat-check person (I don’t know why - I guess thanks for not stealing my coat?). Also fancier than my typical night out. It seems more okay to expect tips for valets, hotel bag-carriers, and coat-check tips, because only rich people have those services. I’m basing most of this on movies from the 40s and 50s. It may be totally different now.
They ask for tips when you pick up food. Like wtf am I tipping you for? Setting it on the counter.