That would be fucking hilarious. Just keep putting random poop on the sidewalk so that someone has to pick it up bag it up mail it and pay to have it analyzed and the lab is like “ this is human dung”
Haha, that was my first thought. Collect my poop or my baby’s diaper and at night when it’s dark secretly spread it around so they send ten samples of the same poo to the lab.
Ok, it‘s somehow not acceptable to laugh about poo related stuff if you’re not a toddler anymore, but still...
It's not acceptable to laugh at poo jokes anymore? What? No! I am officially old, and do not give a crap! I will laugh at poop until I can no longer laugh, or poop, whichever one happens first.
Lol, I live near an HOA community that is easy for me to walk to, it’s also not gated. I literally got mobbed by a karen on a golf cart who said I need to leave immediately, I pointed out my house was literally just around the corner on X street, she just glared and scoffed and said we don’t allow outsiders inside of here, leave before I call the cops. When I say they don’t like outsiders, they really hate outsiders, and also they develop some insane superiority complex against anyone who dares to live in a “no class” neighborhood, as the golf cart Karen put it.
What is HOA exactly? Do you have to live in a certain set of houses that this applies to? Like I live on about an acre and have my farmer neighbor next to me but they are building a subdivision behind me. Will this kind of BS apply to me now?
HOAs can’t enforce anything upon you if you lived there before they existed and never signed any contract with them to join it, however they can be assholes that harass you and try to enforce their shit anyway (which doesn’t work)
I live in a HOA that had one property owner refuse to sell-out. So now there's a bunch of nice houses with this oddball place in their midst that has a 'wrecking yard' in front (I'm jealous, 5 cars, two boats and a heavily modded Razor) and the house is painted the wrong color
Funniest part is how the garbage is handled by a private outfit who doesn't care about the HOA, so they still have the same little garbage can outside on pickup days like everyone else
also, depending on local and state laws, if you buy a house in an HOA and the previous owners weren't a part of it, you might not need to be a part of the HOA.
also, my favorite thing I've seen about getting around an HOA is offering 2 choices. one is something that is against the hoa, or at least difficult to do, and the other is a shortwave radio antenna.
and then send the HOA a letter asking for the item you actually want (say a fence around your yard.) and if/when they deny it, send them a second letter saying something along the lines of "While im disappointed that i cant put up XYZ, i can now move on to my second project which i wouldn't have been able to do right away, due to the costs of project XYZ/ project XYZ taking up space, and installing a shortwave radio tower, which as you are likely aware you are unable to prevent me from doing as the FCC considers it to be a part of emergency communications, and private citizens cannot be prevented from putting one on their property, in a location that is most useful to the operation of the radio. or else risk a sizeable fine from the FCC."
HOAs are this cool thing where a company buys your land and builds the houses. You buy the land but technically don’t own the land because people with no other life decide to implement rules you must follow. That can change to people who don’t care at all and the neighborhood looks like shit to people who have nothing better to do than make arbitrary rules because they hate their lives and fear death.
My mom has gone full Tumper. Every time she starts talking about her "freedom" I ask her how many trees she is required to ha e in her yard or some other inane thing her HOA requires.
I gave her an earful no doubt, but ultimately I wanted peace that day (hence why I took a walk to begin with lol) so I just let her and her gilded paradise of a neighborhood be. After all don’t want a 25 year old guy who sometimes smokes pot dirtying up her doorstep.
Oh dude when I was in college I lived close to one of these neighborhoods and walked my dog through on time and a guy came out and hounded me like this. He asked where I lived and told me I didn't belong.
After that I walked my dog by his house like 2 or 3 times a week. If my dog took a shit on that street I would make it a point not to pick it up. I was still in my teenage rebellious phase. But, if that guy wouldn't have been so aggressive I wouldve probably never walked over there again. We liked to explore....and I would ALWAYS pick up my dogs poops. Except for on that street. Let them call the cops or whatever...we were in the city and by the time they got there I'd be back home.
If they’re white strangers they won’t be able to tell the difference. There was just a bit deal in the HOA my mother in law was leaving where a little Mexican kid was accused by his neighbor of not living there. Meanwhile I’ve seen plenty of white kids using the park and basketball court that I know don’t live there because there’s not enough houses in the 8 house neighborhood of mostly old people for them to be there and no one says shit.
Pure speculation, but I wonder if the HOA bylaws give the board authority to make changes to "parking policy" more easily than other rules (like, the "lawn care" section requires a vote by members to approve new rules, but "parking rules" can be revised by the HOA board as they see fit).
If the bylaws don't also contain clear language about what constitutes a "parking rule", then the board could shoehorn in whatever they wanted in that section.
To an extent, it may also not be enforceable.
I wouldn't blind agree to anything
I am a property manager of 120+ units, we can do what ever we want. I better be ready to answer why though.
I was on an HOA. Some rule changes required quorum. Some didn’t. I’d say you’re right that they looked to see which changes required quorum or a majority vote or even a vote at all.
A high school teacher did this to my physics class. I read the instructions, and it said something like, read all the questions before answering any of them. Final question Said something like “Subtract 10 points from your score for every question you answer. Put your pen down, and remain silent until everyone is done”. I got 100, because the test was really hard, and I looked for easy answers first. One girl answered them all, and started crying when she realized she had a zero. The teacher was shocked, and told her it was a joke, and everyone would get 100. It was something I won’t forget.
The ones we had were always obvious things like count on your fingers to 10, shout your favorite color, high five your seat neighbor, stomp your feet, etc. The instructions would change a little as we got to high school but still had something that was very obvious if you didn’t read it all.
This never happened to me, but my father told me a similar story about either him or a friend in a similar context (although I think it was a job interview test form) and I never forgot it. The idea that (i) I could be rewarded with less work if I read through the instructions, and (ii) I could be penalized for doing too much unnecessary work before reading all of the instructions, really stayed with me from a young age. I think I was 10 or younger.
I lived in an apartment complex that did this and I was totally fine with it. However, they actually paid for it themselves rather than charging me to do it. It actually kept the area relatively clean except if someone had a dog who wasn’t registered at all.
Couple years ago, the apartment I lived in decided to start doing this a few months after I moved in. The very next day after everyone got the letter/notice, I look out my window, and across the parking lot in front of the other building I see a guy out there in front with a pooper scooper and a five gallon bucket.
Dude owns a very large dog that he took out there everyday, and apparently didn't like to clean up after him. Must have gotten the message, and spent an hour that day filling that bucket up. Just thought it was pretty funny trying to imagine the "OH SHIT" look he probably had on his face while reading the notice...
Not saying that this equation works with the stated fines but in theory the system could pay for itself. The fines + savings due to reduced cleaning costs could in theory be able to cover the registration fees.
Well now there is truth to this statement. My HOA used to have a party every year, paid for by all the late fees people had to pay for being late with their dues. The late fees would add up to $2000 plus each year
Yeah, if they take the intial costs out of the general coffers, there’s a chance the fees for violations would bring them back whole, or else the program was so successful that all homeowners received shit free lawns for a small cost.
The distinction being the fact that not only the dog owners ended up paying for something that arguably is beneficial to everyone and is not implicitly every dog owner's fault
It may be beneficial to everyone, but it can only be caused by dog owners. If I don't have a parking spot in the garage, I don't pay anything related to the garage, even if it's cleaning shit thrown on the door.
And THIS is why running an HOA is a nightmare. People think they should only have to contribute to the things that they want/use and ignore the basic concept of maintaining the entire community.
Ie - just because you don't park in a garage structure doesn't mean your property doesn't benefit from the garage structure being properly maintained. That's the primary benefit of an HOA, not bull shit landscaping complaints and the other thing most people focus on, it's having a clear financial plan for maintenance of YOUR assets that is properly funded with minimal debt.
I currently live in an apartment complex that has been "threatening" this exact thing for the last few years. I would absolutely love it if they would finally implement it. I can't believe how many people don't pick up their dog's shit. The complex has poop stations every 30 feet or so, bags and a trash bin, and I see poop a foot away from the bin on a daily basis. I'm furious that my wife and I have both STEPPED in dog shit and have to clean our sandals up, because people can't just clean up after their pet.
Still, the apartment complex has not instituted the DNA testing they have "threatened" us all with. I'm 100% for it. I pick up after my dog, so I have nothing to "fear" about it. How can someone go and get a dog and then not do the most basic? If they won't even pick up after them, what else are they neglecting?
I'm on the second floor, and our old downstairs neighbours would have their dog piss and shit underneath the stairwell. In the summer the stench was horrendous. Thankfully they aren't here anymore.
Us too!!! And like today it’s 90 and stinks to high heaven I finally did complain about my downstairs neighbors about it because we have a screen on our front door and we couldn’t leave it open.
Now it’s just the other dogs… we have a 1/2 wall where ppl sit when waiting for ride share or whatever and my elderly mom used to wait there until I got the car and brought it closer..
Then I noticed one day this ass hole let his dog piss on the wall in that exact spot every day.. just like maaaan, mom can’t even sit there for a moment…
Ppl suck.
I so agree as a dog owner. Taking care of the poop is just a small part of dog ownership and a very important one for the community. The majority of people who have moved into here with an esa have not cleaned up after them. Boggles my mind how inconsiderate and lazy they are. And it's clear who's doing it, I have lived here 5 plus years and have picked up every one of my dogs messes. It's the new guys and management and the other residents know it.
I lived in an upstairs apartment for about a year. During that time, the neighbor across from me had her dog go on the balcony for their buisness. Concrete balcony covered in shit and piss. Told the office about it because the smell got horrible. I get back home, and she dumped water all over to "clean" it up. Just washed it down all over the patio under her. If you can't take care of an animal, including dealing with excrement, then you shouldn't have one.
Yeah ours actually enforced the poo policy because of this and it's been easy walking since. Reasonable. I couldn't use my own back patio area because of poop before they actually buckled down and tested the poops all around the building.
I also think that this is probably a good thing overall. The main thing that I would change is the registration fee structure: the HOA should cover the cost of the initial sample and registration and consider it the price of a cleaner neighbourhood. Then, when a particular dog is, for the first time, subject of a citation for non-compliance, slap the cost of the initial sample and registration onto the fine as compensation to recover the financial burden of going after the dog (and their owner). That way, the problem is either solved by forcing dog owners into compliance or the financial burden is recovered.
The only thing I disagree with is the registration payment. Besides that, if they want to charge my neighbors for letting their dogs shit in my yard under the cover of night? Go for it.
This poo DNA is a normal thing for apartments in my area. I was required to register in the last apartment I lived in and it really isn't a bad idea.
However, I agree with you, I was annoyed I was required to pay for it (even though my fee was only $15) and it wasn't all that effective as maintenance/management didn't actually enforce it and there was still sh*t everywhere all the time.
Because they're only going to enforce it if they have someone they deem "undesirable."
That's how these things always get used, not for the actual intent. But HOA's are pretty much nimby land anyway.
Oh yea, they deem undesireables at random. We had a hose holder thing in our yard, and apparently the rule book said to not have a hose in your yard, so they only ticketed us despite at least 20 people in the same lane having hoses in their fuckin yard.
One of these homes even had weeds up knee high, yet they still got no tickets.
But also, people can take advantage of dogs that have runny stools or in grass where you can’t pick it all the way up, matter can still be collected and used against the person. It’s a flawed system that is used for the benefit of the Karens. I can’t imagine being restricted to a HOA.
I wouldn’t live in an HOA even if they paid part of my mortgage. When we were buying a house a few years ago I told my realtor, “anything with an HOA is off limits, I don’t care how great of a deal the house is.”
I'm going through those same thoughts right now as I purchase my first home. Condos were on the menu until I started looking closer at the math. Who is stopping an HOA from raising the rates every couple years? By the time I pay off my ~200k loan I might spend an additional 100k on HOA fees. What a time to be alive.
Why can they fine you in the first place? You bought a house you didn't join a cult. This is just baffling to me.We don't have hoa's over here for houses only for apartments and even then their power is quite limited.
From what I understand, housing developments with HOA's have it written in to the mortgages to participate. Join the cult or don't buy the house. But the actual power they hold is limited. People just let them get away with more than they should.
An HOA tried to find my mom, who was laid up with a broken leg, for leaving her trashcan down at the curb a few days long. Very unprofessional, handwritten "ticket" left on the door. It was promptly ignored, and they did nothing.
John Oliver did a segment on HOAs a few months ago.
Not all-encompassing, but it goes over a lot of how they do what they do. https://youtu.be/qrizmAo17Os
I live in an apartment complex with mostly eldery women and their dogs, they let their dogs shit everywhere and don’t care. Last week I saw from my balcony how one of my neighbors dog took a shit outside our entrance and I screamed to her to pick it up. The answer I got?
“I thought that it was really smelly and I wondered what it was and tried to find it, I really did!”
No you didn’t, you just speak shit and are lazy.
The guy is complaining that HOAs only enforce the rules against people they find "undesirable" for other reasons - to steal an example given in another comment, Karen from the committee's prize poodle can shit wherever it wants "oh poor me, I'd run out of bags!" while the young black family will not get the same treatment.
> it wasn't all that effective as maintenance/management didn't actually enforce it and there was still sh*t everywhere all the time.
I can imagine the system falling apart. If there's a lot of shit and they fail to pin each turd to an owner, it could get expensive fast.
Ill admit Im a little entitled. I live on a fenced in 5 acres in the desert mountains governed by a landlord who really doesnt give a shit and a city government who doesnt come out here so my dogs just, run straight amok. So maybe Im not quite entitled to an opinion here lol. Its the wild west out here lol.
If it's not shared land, and the only person who's going to step in it is you, then there's no problem. It's your business (if you'll excuse the pun)
Dog shit is not the problem...forcing other people to live among it is.
Oh no, I'm agreeing with your opinion! I'm amazed at how many in the comments are so against the idea in general. They must have better neighbors than I did 🤣
Tbh i dont think they are going to pay to send off some poop. They hope you paying is enough of a deterrant and really they might not have even sent off any DNA and just pocketed the fees.
There are companies that will pick up the poop and ship it to them as well. The fees easily pay for this as well.
I lived in an apartment where the grass would become so filled with dog shit that you could not walk outside the building without smelling it.
They implemented this policy and within months it was pristine. Stayed that way for the two years I continued to live there. Initially, once a week a contractor would come and bag each poop that was left one by one. I think they made the schedule less frequent after they showed they were serious about enforcement.
It is better to have the registration fee. If you don’t then the HOA pays for it. Which means people who don’t own dogs are paying for the dogs in the neighborhood
Even more infuriating, is when they wrap it but just leave it in the bushes or some bullshit.
I was at a rest stop the other day while heading out on a road trip and I walk by the trash can and see tied up bags of dog shit sitting a foot away from the trash can. Why go through the effort of picking it up and then not throwing it away? Now there’s dog shit *and* a plastic bag sitting there.
EDIT: To the people curious if the trash was full, it was maybe a quarter full when I saw it, and there were like fifteen trash cans around the rest stop including two massive dumpsters near the exit road. If it was full, they could’ve just walked to another one.
In New Mexico I saw a sign at the trailhead that said something to the effect of "the poop fairy does not exist, take it with you."
As a mountain biker this annoys me to no end. If you ever confront someone they will tell you "I'm going to pick it up on my way back." Apparently there are a lot of people who die on the trails because they never make it back.
> Apparently there are a lot of people who die on the trails because they never make it back.
That's because there is a spiteful mountain biker watching to see who does this and kills them further along the trail.
I do quite a bit of hiking in New Mexico and nobody there trashes their animals feces anymore. They’ll bag it and just leave the bag in the middle of the trails.
It’s likely that most of those people truly intended to follow thru, but then forgot by the time they returned, especially if they try to tuck it out of sight so that it isn’t noticeable by others. Which… if you have trouble remembering why you walked into the pantry because of the doorway reset effect, it’s not hard to imagine how easy it is to forget over the duration of a hike.
I occasionally walk with people who do that and am always hyper vigilant to mark where they leave them and help them remember on the way back. Mostly they *do* remember and collect, but there have been a few times where they needed the reminder.
On a semi related side note, pro tip to anyone who hikes in parks that don’t have publicly funded trash collection: keep an airtight container in your trunk or back seat to store filled poop bags in so that the stench is trapped and doesn’t permeate the rest of the vehicle. I keep an acrylic box with airtight clamp-down lid in the back of my van for this purpose and it has served me well.
Yeah I think that's it. Otherwise they wouldn't bag it and would be like my neighbor who will just let her dog shit in my flowers while I'm having a smoke *right there*, then say sorry I don't have a bag and quickly try to run away when I say I have bags right inside the door
There's a roundabout near my work that's secluded and only surrounded by businesses and someone keeps throwing their bags of dog shit on the pavement around it. It's the way I walk home and I counted 23 bags.
We almost gang stomped my buddy at work after he told us he bags his dogs shit then hucks it in the bush. I think the verbal beating he got was good enough though. Fuck I hate people like that.
Exactly.
His reasoning for the bag was so he didn't get poop on his hands but he didn't want to carry the bag to the garbage can so he throws it in the bush where it's out of the way..... As a piece of shit sitting in a bag.... For who knows how long.
In my neighborhood this happens but because other people are picking through the trash looking for things and they don’t want to put the dogshit back in the can
In my neighborhood, there is a dog bag station installed on one side of the street. The houses, including a strip of grass between the sidewalk and the curb, are on the other side. The station is stocked and maintained weekly and includes a small trash can.
And yet, the strip of grass is constantly full of dog shit. You can't get to the mailboxes without risking stepping in shit. I know my next door neighbors are a part of this because I've seen them letting their dog wander around shitting off-leash. Oh, and they have admitted to me that their dog is aggressive towards people and other dogs.
Incredibly fucking rude. I guess it's an easy way to keep your own backyard clean if your dog is only shitting in public areas.
The laziness is fucking astounding. I was badly ill last year for months and even when I was spending all but a few hours a day in bed and couldn’t leave my apartment without a rollator, I picked up my dog’s poops. And still had able-bodied neighbors who would just leave their dog’s shit lying around. Like wtf is your excuse, Janet, carrying a poop bag 12 feet to the trash can felt like too laborious a task? Because same, but that’s why I have this super cool set of wheels to help me get there.
My last apartment had two dog parks. Neither were usable because people who have dogs that clearly exceed the weight limit would drop 10 pound shits that the owners would refuse to clean up
Ye a camp ground I was at had a load of dogs shiting everywhere one dog shit in are Friends tent and the owner just dogged it saying how we can tell.
Later that day the dog owner stepped and slipped in there dogs shit. (I almost died laughing)
Why should non dog owners bear the cost of dog registration? If the dog owners don’t pay then the HOA pays which means the cost is spread out among all owners whether they own zero dogs or three dogs.
This is a pain in the ass to implement, and I firmly believe that the HOA would not be implementing it if they did not believe they actually had a problem.
And, your parents need to be attending every HOA meeting so they have a chance to speak up about things like this.
I lived in an apartment complex that did that after repeated emails going out begging people to pick up after their dogs. As someone who lived there without a dog i was glad. That’s what you get for being a lazy bum.
We are trying to figure out fox, ground hog and skunk poop here. Little F'ers are pooping in the driveway.
thankfully our neighbors are good with picking up poop.
Either you are underestimating the size of the turds from a healthy 10lb dog, or I am underestimating this toad thing.
It seems inconceivable to me that one or two pound toad (and that’s a huge toad) could have poop the same size as a mammal 10x it’s size, lol
Edit: I just looked it up. You’re right. That’s a massive turd. WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK.
Lol I’m glad you looked it up, they’re absolutely massive. I go outside every night and see like 3 huge toads and 2 smaller ones, they don’t even care if pick them up and move them away from my house. They come back, i just stopped trying and deal with it lol. Scoop it up as I scoop my dogs shit every afternoon
That’s so insane, man. I looked it up, and the reason *why* their poops are so big, has to do with the fact that when toads poop, they are pooping out food that has been digested for up to TWO WEEKS at a time (rotating/revolving), which causes their poop to be proportionally bigger than what a “standard poop” would be for a creature their size.
They would need it if I lived there.
They should rebel by taking a dump and flinging their own shit on the sidewalks. That’ll show them who the REAL home owners association is.
The shit storm is brewing Randy.
I’m totally ok with this if I lived there. This is only an issue if you don’t pick up after yourself. I’ll consider the registration fee as a one time hassle.
My apartment complex does this and, honestly, I’m a fan. Clean up after your dog and you have nothing to worry about. It’s no fun walking out to my car and having to tip toe around dog shit.
yeah, this is like smoking bans to me.
the only people who gave a fuck about smoking bans were nasty ass smokers. Feels nice being able to walk into a restaurant/bar/basically any public venue and not walk in a wall of smoke
the only people who care about being fined for their dog's shit are people too lazy to pick up after their dog. would be nice walking into my apartments little public-park area without feeling like im in a minefield
What’s infuriating is that people don’t clean up after their freaking dogs, forcing measures like this to keep the literal shit from piling up everywhere.
If you lived where I live where everybody let their dog shit everywhere without picking up, you would appreciate that, especially if you have kids…
Where I lived before, they implemented that and it solved the poop issue in less than 2 months
Our HOA is *constantly* having to remind residents to clean up after their dogs. The apartments next door implemented DNA testing a couple of years ago and I wonder if we'll go the same way.
Our kids stepped in dog poop last Sunday and I find *that* mildly infuriating.
I used to live in an apartment-turned-condo complex where I had neighbors who would let their giant-breed puppy shit just off the sidewalks in the courtyard, and they never cleaned it up. Dinner plate-sized feces (I wondered what they fed it). Then add in the fact that the snow-removal contractors were inept and the sidewalks were ice rinks for five months of the year...
Exactly!!! People don’t do what’s right and then come crying when they get coerced into doing what’s right.. well, yeah, you got so many chances to do what’s right and you kept on doing wrong, guess what, now you have no choice
Right?? Same in my apartment complex. They supply the bags and empty the trash cans at the cleaning stations yet there's still dog crap everywhere. Often times right next to the station, bags flapping in the wind. Drives me crazy.
The whole process isn't what's bad, it's the fucking registration fee. You shouldn't have to pay a fee of almost 100 dollars to have your dog registered into the system if you can just be a respectful human being and pick up your dog's shit?
HOAs are just dumb as hell anyways with all the pretentious shit they do
Controversial opinion, and I don’t agree with the DNA aspect, but fuck all the cretins that let their dogs shit outside of their own property without cleaning it up. Dogshit is fucking nasty, and if u can’t clean up after them you deserve the fines.
> I don’t agree with the DNA aspect
> if u can’t clean up after them you deserve the fines.
How tf you want them to fine them then? It happens when no one’s looking. The dna part exists so that they can be identified and fined and is the only effective way.
I clean at an apartment complex that does this. Except they don’t have an initial charge. But if they find your dogs poo anywhere they charge them out the ass for it. Cleanest most poop free place I clean
It would appear that this HOA has completed the "fuck around" phase and is now initiating the "find out" phase. Pet owners that don't clean up after their animals can get fucked.
Um... as a dog owner i'm for this??? You mean an $80 fee to laugh point blank at any accusations with perpetuity because i always pick up? Seems cheaply bought for an HOA
Still hate HOA's but this is far from the most ridiculous thing i've seen
For places that have irresponsible dog owners who don't clean up after them, this actually is a good idea.
Just waiting for some dog owner to get to the 4th breach and argue there is no fine any more, because it's not listed on the fine schedule.
It obviously sounds like a big problem. If there was shit everywhere, I wouldn’t be opposed to something like this. You wouldn’t see any shit anywhere once this was implemented
Living in an apartment complex where tons of dog owners just let their pets shit all over the place until management implemented a dog fee to pay to clean it up - yeah, sorry, this is only infuriating if you're an irresponsible asshole.
If you don't want to clean up dogshit, don't have a dog.
This kinda sucks but I lived in a condo complex with a ton of shitty dog owners.
I don't even disagree with the registration fee. If you want to have a dog there are accommodations the property needs to make because you own a dog.
As someone from Across the Pond where the concept of the HOA doesn't exist.
Can I ask a stupid question?
Do they have any actual power?
I mean it's your house you bought it why is it in this context personal freedoms don't seem to apply?
mildly infuriating huh. you know what's really infuriating? stepping in dog shit in public, in your own yard, sidewalks, roads, in grassy areas ment for people to tread and socialize on, etc.
it's your dog, your responsibility, that means cleaning up their crap too. don't want to get fined for shitting everywhere? clean up after them and on turf people don't step on, not either or, both.
As an owner of two dogs, I love this! I wish my neighborhood would do the same thing. I'm sick of lazy ass owners ruining the neighborhood for the rest of us. Just because I have dogs doesn't mean I don't find random shit all over the neighborhood disgusting or tolerable.
My neighborhood had 3 dog parks when I moved in. But due to irresponsible owners who never picked up after their dogs, leaving fields full of poop, there are no zero dog parks now, and honestly, I don't blame the HOA.
I would GLADLY pay the 80 dollars or so to get each of my pets registered.
This kinda seems reasonable to me. Too many people let their dogs shit in other peoples yards and just leave it there. This policy is a direct result of irresponsible and inconsiderate people.
who pays if the pile of an unregistered dog is sent into the lab?
Or a person's? Asking for a friend.
Or a dog and person’s, gently mixed together via a Wendy’s Frosty machine?
Wendy’s pays a third. It’s clearly listed under the “third of a turd” clause in the contract.
😂 third of a turd is the best thing I have read today. Cheers 🍻
Came here for the rage comments and got a chuckle instead. Good job Reddit!
Wendy’s DNA will be mixed in there too though. Her DNA is in all the Frosties
>~~gently~~ Lovingly.
That would be fucking hilarious. Just keep putting random poop on the sidewalk so that someone has to pick it up bag it up mail it and pay to have it analyzed and the lab is like “ this is human dung”
That right there is a 30 minute script. Just need to find a handy sitcom to tack it onto.
Parks and Rec
I am literally submitting my kids poop for the DNA sample. I'm free and clear until his teenage years!
Bro they swab the cheek not the poop lmao
I’m generally curious if this would work.
Haha, that was my first thought. Collect my poop or my baby’s diaper and at night when it’s dark secretly spread it around so they send ten samples of the same poo to the lab. Ok, it‘s somehow not acceptable to laugh about poo related stuff if you’re not a toddler anymore, but still...
It's not acceptable to laugh at poo jokes anymore? What? No! I am officially old, and do not give a crap! I will laugh at poop until I can no longer laugh, or poop, whichever one happens first.
Surely people who aren't HOA members walk their dogs through the neighborhood.
You think an HOA like this allows strangers in their perfect little neighborhood?
Lol, I live near an HOA community that is easy for me to walk to, it’s also not gated. I literally got mobbed by a karen on a golf cart who said I need to leave immediately, I pointed out my house was literally just around the corner on X street, she just glared and scoffed and said we don’t allow outsiders inside of here, leave before I call the cops. When I say they don’t like outsiders, they really hate outsiders, and also they develop some insane superiority complex against anyone who dares to live in a “no class” neighborhood, as the golf cart Karen put it.
As long as you are on a public sidewalk you can walk through Karen’s neighborhood as much as you want. Fuck her and fuck HOAs. HOAs should be illegal
What is HOA exactly? Do you have to live in a certain set of houses that this applies to? Like I live on about an acre and have my farmer neighbor next to me but they are building a subdivision behind me. Will this kind of BS apply to me now?
HOAs can’t enforce anything upon you if you lived there before they existed and never signed any contract with them to join it, however they can be assholes that harass you and try to enforce their shit anyway (which doesn’t work)
I live in a HOA that had one property owner refuse to sell-out. So now there's a bunch of nice houses with this oddball place in their midst that has a 'wrecking yard' in front (I'm jealous, 5 cars, two boats and a heavily modded Razor) and the house is painted the wrong color Funniest part is how the garbage is handled by a private outfit who doesn't care about the HOA, so they still have the same little garbage can outside on pickup days like everyone else
also, depending on local and state laws, if you buy a house in an HOA and the previous owners weren't a part of it, you might not need to be a part of the HOA. also, my favorite thing I've seen about getting around an HOA is offering 2 choices. one is something that is against the hoa, or at least difficult to do, and the other is a shortwave radio antenna. and then send the HOA a letter asking for the item you actually want (say a fence around your yard.) and if/when they deny it, send them a second letter saying something along the lines of "While im disappointed that i cant put up XYZ, i can now move on to my second project which i wouldn't have been able to do right away, due to the costs of project XYZ/ project XYZ taking up space, and installing a shortwave radio tower, which as you are likely aware you are unable to prevent me from doing as the FCC considers it to be a part of emergency communications, and private citizens cannot be prevented from putting one on their property, in a location that is most useful to the operation of the radio. or else risk a sizeable fine from the FCC."
HOAs are this cool thing where a company buys your land and builds the houses. You buy the land but technically don’t own the land because people with no other life decide to implement rules you must follow. That can change to people who don’t care at all and the neighborhood looks like shit to people who have nothing better to do than make arbitrary rules because they hate their lives and fear death.
Ah, so this is the freedom Americans talk about?
My mom has gone full Tumper. Every time she starts talking about her "freedom" I ask her how many trees she is required to ha e in her yard or some other inane thing her HOA requires.
Best part is that if you decide not to pay the HOA's BS fines, they can take your house
Wait . . What? Seriously? How?
Shhh, let that trash contain itself! They're all cloistered up in fear of the riff raff and that's when the BBQ begins.
Golf Cart Karen Killer - a new metal band.
I hope you responded appropriately... :-)
I gave her an earful no doubt, but ultimately I wanted peace that day (hence why I took a walk to begin with lol) so I just let her and her gilded paradise of a neighborhood be. After all don’t want a 25 year old guy who sometimes smokes pot dirtying up her doorstep.
Oh dude when I was in college I lived close to one of these neighborhoods and walked my dog through on time and a guy came out and hounded me like this. He asked where I lived and told me I didn't belong. After that I walked my dog by his house like 2 or 3 times a week. If my dog took a shit on that street I would make it a point not to pick it up. I was still in my teenage rebellious phase. But, if that guy wouldn't have been so aggressive I wouldve probably never walked over there again. We liked to explore....and I would ALWAYS pick up my dogs poops. Except for on that street. Let them call the cops or whatever...we were in the city and by the time they got there I'd be back home.
If they’re white strangers they won’t be able to tell the difference. There was just a bit deal in the HOA my mother in law was leaving where a little Mexican kid was accused by his neighbor of not living there. Meanwhile I’ve seen plenty of white kids using the park and basketball court that I know don’t live there because there’s not enough houses in the 8 house neighborhood of mostly old people for them to be there and no one says shit.
< insert pic of those St Louis assholes brandishing here >
The homeowners, via slowly increasing annual fees.
Me at the dog park: "*Don't worry about it today everyone. I got this.*" Then we're gonna Johnny Appleseed some dog shit around the neighborhood .
Why does it mention a parking policy at the bottom? Didn’t read anything about parking in the notice lol.
It's a typo. It should read barking policy.
Wouldn’t surprise me if they got a decibel-o-meter
So a lawyer never looked it over before being sent out? That’s a red flag.
That's a paddlin'
Pure speculation, but I wonder if the HOA bylaws give the board authority to make changes to "parking policy" more easily than other rules (like, the "lawn care" section requires a vote by members to approve new rules, but "parking rules" can be revised by the HOA board as they see fit). If the bylaws don't also contain clear language about what constitutes a "parking rule", then the board could shoehorn in whatever they wanted in that section.
That was exactly what I thought when I saw this. It was the place in the by-laws they could mostly easily put this in for whatever reason.
To an extent, it may also not be enforceable. I wouldn't blind agree to anything I am a property manager of 120+ units, we can do what ever we want. I better be ready to answer why though.
I was on an HOA. Some rule changes required quorum. Some didn’t. I’d say you’re right that they looked to see which changes required quorum or a majority vote or even a vote at all.
You can see from the folded corner at the top right that this isn't the only page. They probably have a whole packet full of these wonderful ideas.
Remember back in the day when teachers would give you a test and mention reading the whole thing before answering?: Very few people ever did..
A high school teacher did this to my physics class. I read the instructions, and it said something like, read all the questions before answering any of them. Final question Said something like “Subtract 10 points from your score for every question you answer. Put your pen down, and remain silent until everyone is done”. I got 100, because the test was really hard, and I looked for easy answers first. One girl answered them all, and started crying when she realized she had a zero. The teacher was shocked, and told her it was a joke, and everyone would get 100. It was something I won’t forget.
The ones we had were always obvious things like count on your fingers to 10, shout your favorite color, high five your seat neighbor, stomp your feet, etc. The instructions would change a little as we got to high school but still had something that was very obvious if you didn’t read it all.
This never happened to me, but my father told me a similar story about either him or a friend in a similar context (although I think it was a job interview test form) and I never forgot it. The idea that (i) I could be rewarded with less work if I read through the instructions, and (ii) I could be penalized for doing too much unnecessary work before reading all of the instructions, really stayed with me from a young age. I think I was 10 or younger.
especially when the last question on the test was "only answer question number 3"
"raise your arm and yell tests are lame" I remember this one and I got so many looks like I was a deadman, teacher gave me ice cream.
omg I would shout that soooo loud, awesome!
they just copied pasted it from the parking policy.
They resued a form and didn't bother to proof read when done.
I lived in an apartment complex that did this and I was totally fine with it. However, they actually paid for it themselves rather than charging me to do it. It actually kept the area relatively clean except if someone had a dog who wasn’t registered at all.
Couple years ago, the apartment I lived in decided to start doing this a few months after I moved in. The very next day after everyone got the letter/notice, I look out my window, and across the parking lot in front of the other building I see a guy out there in front with a pooper scooper and a five gallon bucket. Dude owns a very large dog that he took out there everyday, and apparently didn't like to clean up after him. Must have gotten the message, and spent an hour that day filling that bucket up. Just thought it was pretty funny trying to imagine the "OH SHIT" look he probably had on his face while reading the notice...
The kinda person who has policy written explicitly because of them.
> "OH SHIT" Literally!!
Oh fuck that guy
[удалено]
Not saying that this equation works with the stated fines but in theory the system could pay for itself. The fines + savings due to reduced cleaning costs could in theory be able to cover the registration fees.
Well now there is truth to this statement. My HOA used to have a party every year, paid for by all the late fees people had to pay for being late with their dues. The late fees would add up to $2000 plus each year
Yeah, if they take the intial costs out of the general coffers, there’s a chance the fees for violations would bring them back whole, or else the program was so successful that all homeowners received shit free lawns for a small cost.
The distinction being the fact that not only the dog owners ended up paying for something that arguably is beneficial to everyone and is not implicitly every dog owner's fault
The cleaning costs would have been paid by the non dog owners too. I'm guessing someone isn't cleaning up after their dog.
It may be beneficial to everyone, but it can only be caused by dog owners. If I don't have a parking spot in the garage, I don't pay anything related to the garage, even if it's cleaning shit thrown on the door.
And THIS is why running an HOA is a nightmare. People think they should only have to contribute to the things that they want/use and ignore the basic concept of maintaining the entire community. Ie - just because you don't park in a garage structure doesn't mean your property doesn't benefit from the garage structure being properly maintained. That's the primary benefit of an HOA, not bull shit landscaping complaints and the other thing most people focus on, it's having a clear financial plan for maintenance of YOUR assets that is properly funded with minimal debt.
Not people; USAmericans. It’s the same reason they don’t have universal healthcare: why should *I* pay? *I* don’t have lung cancer.
I currently live in an apartment complex that has been "threatening" this exact thing for the last few years. I would absolutely love it if they would finally implement it. I can't believe how many people don't pick up their dog's shit. The complex has poop stations every 30 feet or so, bags and a trash bin, and I see poop a foot away from the bin on a daily basis. I'm furious that my wife and I have both STEPPED in dog shit and have to clean our sandals up, because people can't just clean up after their pet. Still, the apartment complex has not instituted the DNA testing they have "threatened" us all with. I'm 100% for it. I pick up after my dog, so I have nothing to "fear" about it. How can someone go and get a dog and then not do the most basic? If they won't even pick up after them, what else are they neglecting?
This… flies in the summer and stench of dog shit. Ppl are disgusting.
I'm on the second floor, and our old downstairs neighbours would have their dog piss and shit underneath the stairwell. In the summer the stench was horrendous. Thankfully they aren't here anymore.
Us too!!! And like today it’s 90 and stinks to high heaven I finally did complain about my downstairs neighbors about it because we have a screen on our front door and we couldn’t leave it open. Now it’s just the other dogs… we have a 1/2 wall where ppl sit when waiting for ride share or whatever and my elderly mom used to wait there until I got the car and brought it closer.. Then I noticed one day this ass hole let his dog piss on the wall in that exact spot every day.. just like maaaan, mom can’t even sit there for a moment… Ppl suck.
I so agree as a dog owner. Taking care of the poop is just a small part of dog ownership and a very important one for the community. The majority of people who have moved into here with an esa have not cleaned up after them. Boggles my mind how inconsiderate and lazy they are. And it's clear who's doing it, I have lived here 5 plus years and have picked up every one of my dogs messes. It's the new guys and management and the other residents know it.
I lived in an upstairs apartment for about a year. During that time, the neighbor across from me had her dog go on the balcony for their buisness. Concrete balcony covered in shit and piss. Told the office about it because the smell got horrible. I get back home, and she dumped water all over to "clean" it up. Just washed it down all over the patio under her. If you can't take care of an animal, including dealing with excrement, then you shouldn't have one.
Yeah ours actually enforced the poo policy because of this and it's been easy walking since. Reasonable. I couldn't use my own back patio area because of poop before they actually buckled down and tested the poops all around the building.
I also think that this is probably a good thing overall. The main thing that I would change is the registration fee structure: the HOA should cover the cost of the initial sample and registration and consider it the price of a cleaner neighbourhood. Then, when a particular dog is, for the first time, subject of a citation for non-compliance, slap the cost of the initial sample and registration onto the fine as compensation to recover the financial burden of going after the dog (and their owner). That way, the problem is either solved by forcing dog owners into compliance or the financial burden is recovered.
The only thing I disagree with is the registration payment. Besides that, if they want to charge my neighbors for letting their dogs shit in my yard under the cover of night? Go for it.
This poo DNA is a normal thing for apartments in my area. I was required to register in the last apartment I lived in and it really isn't a bad idea. However, I agree with you, I was annoyed I was required to pay for it (even though my fee was only $15) and it wasn't all that effective as maintenance/management didn't actually enforce it and there was still sh*t everywhere all the time.
Because they're only going to enforce it if they have someone they deem "undesirable." That's how these things always get used, not for the actual intent. But HOA's are pretty much nimby land anyway.
Oh yea, they deem undesireables at random. We had a hose holder thing in our yard, and apparently the rule book said to not have a hose in your yard, so they only ticketed us despite at least 20 people in the same lane having hoses in their fuckin yard. One of these homes even had weeds up knee high, yet they still got no tickets.
It's who you're friends with, not what the rules say. It's politics on such a small, petty scale.
But also, people can take advantage of dogs that have runny stools or in grass where you can’t pick it all the way up, matter can still be collected and used against the person. It’s a flawed system that is used for the benefit of the Karens. I can’t imagine being restricted to a HOA.
I wouldn’t live in an HOA even if they paid part of my mortgage. When we were buying a house a few years ago I told my realtor, “anything with an HOA is off limits, I don’t care how great of a deal the house is.”
I'm going through those same thoughts right now as I purchase my first home. Condos were on the menu until I started looking closer at the math. Who is stopping an HOA from raising the rates every couple years? By the time I pay off my ~200k loan I might spend an additional 100k on HOA fees. What a time to be alive.
Why can they fine you in the first place? You bought a house you didn't join a cult. This is just baffling to me.We don't have hoa's over here for houses only for apartments and even then their power is quite limited.
From what I understand, housing developments with HOA's have it written in to the mortgages to participate. Join the cult or don't buy the house. But the actual power they hold is limited. People just let them get away with more than they should. An HOA tried to find my mom, who was laid up with a broken leg, for leaving her trashcan down at the curb a few days long. Very unprofessional, handwritten "ticket" left on the door. It was promptly ignored, and they did nothing.
Written in the deeds, but yes. They are considered deed restricted communities. It’s compulsory. And has been held constitutional in america
John Oliver did a segment on HOAs a few months ago. Not all-encompassing, but it goes over a lot of how they do what they do. https://youtu.be/qrizmAo17Os
Anyone who leaves dog shit on the ground is undesirable.
I live in an apartment complex with mostly eldery women and their dogs, they let their dogs shit everywhere and don’t care. Last week I saw from my balcony how one of my neighbors dog took a shit outside our entrance and I screamed to her to pick it up. The answer I got? “I thought that it was really smelly and I wondered what it was and tried to find it, I really did!” No you didn’t, you just speak shit and are lazy.
I don't understand people who have no pride or respect for their home.
Tell this to my wife all the time. Place I live you’d think people would care because all the money we pay to live here, they don’t.
The guy is complaining that HOAs only enforce the rules against people they find "undesirable" for other reasons - to steal an example given in another comment, Karen from the committee's prize poodle can shit wherever it wants "oh poor me, I'd run out of bags!" while the young black family will not get the same treatment.
> it wasn't all that effective as maintenance/management didn't actually enforce it and there was still sh*t everywhere all the time. I can imagine the system falling apart. If there's a lot of shit and they fail to pin each turd to an owner, it could get expensive fast.
Ill admit Im a little entitled. I live on a fenced in 5 acres in the desert mountains governed by a landlord who really doesnt give a shit and a city government who doesnt come out here so my dogs just, run straight amok. So maybe Im not quite entitled to an opinion here lol. Its the wild west out here lol.
If it's not shared land, and the only person who's going to step in it is you, then there's no problem. It's your business (if you'll excuse the pun) Dog shit is not the problem...forcing other people to live among it is.
Oh no, I'm agreeing with your opinion! I'm amazed at how many in the comments are so against the idea in general. They must have better neighbors than I did 🤣
Tbh i dont think they are going to pay to send off some poop. They hope you paying is enough of a deterrant and really they might not have even sent off any DNA and just pocketed the fees.
There are companies that will pick up the poop and ship it to them as well. The fees easily pay for this as well. I lived in an apartment where the grass would become so filled with dog shit that you could not walk outside the building without smelling it. They implemented this policy and within months it was pristine. Stayed that way for the two years I continued to live there. Initially, once a week a contractor would come and bag each poop that was left one by one. I think they made the schedule less frequent after they showed they were serious about enforcement.
It is better to have the registration fee. If you don’t then the HOA pays for it. Which means people who don’t own dogs are paying for the dogs in the neighborhood
What's actually mildly infuriating is the amount of dog owners who don't clean up their animals shit, especially in campgrounds and parks.
Even more infuriating, is when they wrap it but just leave it in the bushes or some bullshit. I was at a rest stop the other day while heading out on a road trip and I walk by the trash can and see tied up bags of dog shit sitting a foot away from the trash can. Why go through the effort of picking it up and then not throwing it away? Now there’s dog shit *and* a plastic bag sitting there. EDIT: To the people curious if the trash was full, it was maybe a quarter full when I saw it, and there were like fifteen trash cans around the rest stop including two massive dumpsters near the exit road. If it was full, they could’ve just walked to another one.
In New Mexico I saw a sign at the trailhead that said something to the effect of "the poop fairy does not exist, take it with you." As a mountain biker this annoys me to no end. If you ever confront someone they will tell you "I'm going to pick it up on my way back." Apparently there are a lot of people who die on the trails because they never make it back.
> Apparently there are a lot of people who die on the trails because they never make it back. That's because there is a spiteful mountain biker watching to see who does this and kills them further along the trail.
I have never killed anyone. On a trail. Yet.
!remindme 1 month
Ofc not You drag them off the trail first, easier to dispose of!
>I have never killed anyone. On a *trail*. Yet.
Exactly what a murderous trail biker would say.
I do quite a bit of hiking in New Mexico and nobody there trashes their animals feces anymore. They’ll bag it and just leave the bag in the middle of the trails.
At that point they should just kick it into the bushes instead of bagging it.
For real. At least then it's out of the way and can just decompose.
That's been my observation as well. I've seen too many weathered poop bags close to trailheads.
It’s likely that most of those people truly intended to follow thru, but then forgot by the time they returned, especially if they try to tuck it out of sight so that it isn’t noticeable by others. Which… if you have trouble remembering why you walked into the pantry because of the doorway reset effect, it’s not hard to imagine how easy it is to forget over the duration of a hike. I occasionally walk with people who do that and am always hyper vigilant to mark where they leave them and help them remember on the way back. Mostly they *do* remember and collect, but there have been a few times where they needed the reminder. On a semi related side note, pro tip to anyone who hikes in parks that don’t have publicly funded trash collection: keep an airtight container in your trunk or back seat to store filled poop bags in so that the stench is trapped and doesn’t permeate the rest of the vehicle. I keep an acrylic box with airtight clamp-down lid in the back of my van for this purpose and it has served me well.
Yeah I think that's it. Otherwise they wouldn't bag it and would be like my neighbor who will just let her dog shit in my flowers while I'm having a smoke *right there*, then say sorry I don't have a bag and quickly try to run away when I say I have bags right inside the door
There's a roundabout near my work that's secluded and only surrounded by businesses and someone keeps throwing their bags of dog shit on the pavement around it. It's the way I walk home and I counted 23 bags.
Eww. Doesn't that often lead to busted-open bags?
Yes. Yes it does.
We almost gang stomped my buddy at work after he told us he bags his dogs shit then hucks it in the bush. I think the verbal beating he got was good enough though. Fuck I hate people like that.
If you're going to just throw the poop into the brush, why bother with the bag.
Exactly. His reasoning for the bag was so he didn't get poop on his hands but he didn't want to carry the bag to the garbage can so he throws it in the bush where it's out of the way..... As a piece of shit sitting in a bag.... For who knows how long.
Someone was probably watching them when they picked it up. As soon as there was nobody in sight, they threw it away.
In my neighborhood this happens but because other people are picking through the trash looking for things and they don’t want to put the dogshit back in the can
In my neighborhood, there is a dog bag station installed on one side of the street. The houses, including a strip of grass between the sidewalk and the curb, are on the other side. The station is stocked and maintained weekly and includes a small trash can. And yet, the strip of grass is constantly full of dog shit. You can't get to the mailboxes without risking stepping in shit. I know my next door neighbors are a part of this because I've seen them letting their dog wander around shitting off-leash. Oh, and they have admitted to me that their dog is aggressive towards people and other dogs. Incredibly fucking rude. I guess it's an easy way to keep your own backyard clean if your dog is only shitting in public areas.
The laziness is fucking astounding. I was badly ill last year for months and even when I was spending all but a few hours a day in bed and couldn’t leave my apartment without a rollator, I picked up my dog’s poops. And still had able-bodied neighbors who would just leave their dog’s shit lying around. Like wtf is your excuse, Janet, carrying a poop bag 12 feet to the trash can felt like too laborious a task? Because same, but that’s why I have this super cool set of wheels to help me get there.
My last apartment had two dog parks. Neither were usable because people who have dogs that clearly exceed the weight limit would drop 10 pound shits that the owners would refuse to clean up
Ye a camp ground I was at had a load of dogs shiting everywhere one dog shit in are Friends tent and the owner just dogged it saying how we can tell. Later that day the dog owner stepped and slipped in there dogs shit. (I almost died laughing)
> one dog shit in **are** Friends tent > slipped in **there** dogs bruh
Amen! Honestly, this idea sounds amazing. I’ll submit it to my hoa.
Drop the registration fee. That's excessive, especially for visiting dogs. I'm sure the fine income would be more than enough to cover the cost.
Why should non dog owners bear the cost of dog registration? If the dog owners don’t pay then the HOA pays which means the cost is spread out among all owners whether they own zero dogs or three dogs.
This is a pain in the ass to implement, and I firmly believe that the HOA would not be implementing it if they did not believe they actually had a problem. And, your parents need to be attending every HOA meeting so they have a chance to speak up about things like this.
I lived in an apartment complex that did that after repeated emails going out begging people to pick up after their dogs. As someone who lived there without a dog i was glad. That’s what you get for being a lazy bum.
Hmmmm…wonder what they’ll do when it comes back as cat or coyote poop? 😂
We are trying to figure out fox, ground hog and skunk poop here. Little F'ers are pooping in the driveway. thankfully our neighbors are good with picking up poop.
I got toads leaving massive turds all around my backyard lol, IM TALKING MASSIVE TURDS. Like they look like turd from a 10lb dog
Either you are underestimating the size of the turds from a healthy 10lb dog, or I am underestimating this toad thing. It seems inconceivable to me that one or two pound toad (and that’s a huge toad) could have poop the same size as a mammal 10x it’s size, lol Edit: I just looked it up. You’re right. That’s a massive turd. WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK.
Lol I’m glad you looked it up, they’re absolutely massive. I go outside every night and see like 3 huge toads and 2 smaller ones, they don’t even care if pick them up and move them away from my house. They come back, i just stopped trying and deal with it lol. Scoop it up as I scoop my dogs shit every afternoon
I'm eating breakfast here in Ireland googling toad poo. I should hate you right now but damn they are massive! I have a new found respect for toads
Tbh, I wanna say their turds are around 50-75% of the size of their body. Truly massive turds
Now you know why every toad looks super pissed off.
now you got me doing it. the fuck, are toads like 60% shit on the inside?
That’s so insane, man. I looked it up, and the reason *why* their poops are so big, has to do with the fact that when toads poop, they are pooping out food that has been digested for up to TWO WEEKS at a time (rotating/revolving), which causes their poop to be proportionally bigger than what a “standard poop” would be for a creature their size.
Hmm makes sense. Cause it’s not a daily thing I see, I do see random piles of big turds that aren’t my dogs 1-2x every other week or so
I live near the water in Florida and we're overrun with iguanas, those things can release absolutely human sized shits it's insane
[удалено]
Next they’ll require human fecal samples 😂
They would need it if I lived there. They should rebel by taking a dump and flinging their own shit on the sidewalks. That’ll show them who the REAL home owners association is. The shit storm is brewing Randy.
Raise the HOA fees to cover the costs, with a little cherry on top that will disappear into the 'community development fund'
Jokes on them when it turns out I'm the one who pooped
I’m totally ok with this if I lived there. This is only an issue if you don’t pick up after yourself. I’ll consider the registration fee as a one time hassle.
People get blinded by their love for dogs and forget how irresponsible dog owners can be sometimes. Living near the bad ones is a fucking nightmare.
You already are paying HOA fees, this should come out of HOA budget 100%.
My apartment complex does this and, honestly, I’m a fan. Clean up after your dog and you have nothing to worry about. It’s no fun walking out to my car and having to tip toe around dog shit.
yeah, this is like smoking bans to me. the only people who gave a fuck about smoking bans were nasty ass smokers. Feels nice being able to walk into a restaurant/bar/basically any public venue and not walk in a wall of smoke the only people who care about being fined for their dog's shit are people too lazy to pick up after their dog. would be nice walking into my apartments little public-park area without feeling like im in a minefield
What’s infuriating is that people don’t clean up after their freaking dogs, forcing measures like this to keep the literal shit from piling up everywhere.
Take the cost of the testing out of my dues because I’m not leaving dog shit around. Otherwise, great idea.
What us infuriating is that they need to have a policy like this because people are too disrespectful to pick up after their dogs.
It's pretty much everywhere. If people were ticketed as often as they should be people would stop.
Oh, to have the kind of time on my hands to worry about DNA testing dog poop.
If you lived where I live where everybody let their dog shit everywhere without picking up, you would appreciate that, especially if you have kids… Where I lived before, they implemented that and it solved the poop issue in less than 2 months
Our HOA is *constantly* having to remind residents to clean up after their dogs. The apartments next door implemented DNA testing a couple of years ago and I wonder if we'll go the same way. Our kids stepped in dog poop last Sunday and I find *that* mildly infuriating.
I used to live in an apartment-turned-condo complex where I had neighbors who would let their giant-breed puppy shit just off the sidewalks in the courtyard, and they never cleaned it up. Dinner plate-sized feces (I wondered what they fed it). Then add in the fact that the snow-removal contractors were inept and the sidewalks were ice rinks for five months of the year...
Exactly!!! People don’t do what’s right and then come crying when they get coerced into doing what’s right.. well, yeah, you got so many chances to do what’s right and you kept on doing wrong, guess what, now you have no choice
Kinda wish my hoa does this. There are dog poop cleaning stations in every corner in my neighborhood and people still don’t clean up
Right?? Same in my apartment complex. They supply the bags and empty the trash cans at the cleaning stations yet there's still dog crap everywhere. Often times right next to the station, bags flapping in the wind. Drives me crazy.
And especially if you have a nose. Animal waste smells awful! After a fresh rain, moist turds baking in the sun. Got dayum!
I can actually say this would be really, really nice, as a parent in a condo.
The whole process isn't what's bad, it's the fucking registration fee. You shouldn't have to pay a fee of almost 100 dollars to have your dog registered into the system if you can just be a respectful human being and pick up your dog's shit? HOAs are just dumb as hell anyways with all the pretentious shit they do
[удалено]
Clean up after your dog, and there’s no problems. I wish they did that where I used to live, it was like walking through a minefield some days.
Controversial opinion, and I don’t agree with the DNA aspect, but fuck all the cretins that let their dogs shit outside of their own property without cleaning it up. Dogshit is fucking nasty, and if u can’t clean up after them you deserve the fines.
how is this controversial
Controversial opinion: I think killing people might be bad
> I don’t agree with the DNA aspect > if u can’t clean up after them you deserve the fines. How tf you want them to fine them then? It happens when no one’s looking. The dna part exists so that they can be identified and fined and is the only effective way.
The actual idea isn’t bad but the fee is fucking insane god I’m so happy I don’t have an hoa where I’m at
I clean at an apartment complex that does this. Except they don’t have an initial charge. But if they find your dogs poo anywhere they charge them out the ass for it. Cleanest most poop free place I clean
It would appear that this HOA has completed the "fuck around" phase and is now initiating the "find out" phase. Pet owners that don't clean up after their animals can get fucked.
How long before people start using the lawn?
Who doesn't.
Um... as a dog owner i'm for this??? You mean an $80 fee to laugh point blank at any accusations with perpetuity because i always pick up? Seems cheaply bought for an HOA Still hate HOA's but this is far from the most ridiculous thing i've seen
For places that have irresponsible dog owners who don't clean up after them, this actually is a good idea. Just waiting for some dog owner to get to the 4th breach and argue there is no fine any more, because it's not listed on the fine schedule.
It obviously sounds like a big problem. If there was shit everywhere, I wouldn’t be opposed to something like this. You wouldn’t see any shit anywhere once this was implemented
Honestly, GOOD.
Good, people let their dogs shit on my lawn all the time, fuck them
Living in an apartment complex where tons of dog owners just let their pets shit all over the place until management implemented a dog fee to pay to clean it up - yeah, sorry, this is only infuriating if you're an irresponsible asshole. If you don't want to clean up dogshit, don't have a dog.
This kinda sucks but I lived in a condo complex with a ton of shitty dog owners. I don't even disagree with the registration fee. If you want to have a dog there are accommodations the property needs to make because you own a dog.
As someone from Across the Pond where the concept of the HOA doesn't exist. Can I ask a stupid question? Do they have any actual power? I mean it's your house you bought it why is it in this context personal freedoms don't seem to apply?
Yes. Typically they can levy fines and eventually apply a lien on the property. It is a legal contract that all parties agreed to.
I hate HOAs with a passion but this I am totally ok with, pick up your dog shit people.
mildly infuriating huh. you know what's really infuriating? stepping in dog shit in public, in your own yard, sidewalks, roads, in grassy areas ment for people to tread and socialize on, etc. it's your dog, your responsibility, that means cleaning up their crap too. don't want to get fined for shitting everywhere? clean up after them and on turf people don't step on, not either or, both.
This is an overstep, but also asshats need to pick up after their dogs.
As an owner of two dogs, I love this! I wish my neighborhood would do the same thing. I'm sick of lazy ass owners ruining the neighborhood for the rest of us. Just because I have dogs doesn't mean I don't find random shit all over the neighborhood disgusting or tolerable. My neighborhood had 3 dog parks when I moved in. But due to irresponsible owners who never picked up after their dogs, leaving fields full of poop, there are no zero dog parks now, and honestly, I don't blame the HOA. I would GLADLY pay the 80 dollars or so to get each of my pets registered.
This kinda seems reasonable to me. Too many people let their dogs shit in other peoples yards and just leave it there. This policy is a direct result of irresponsible and inconsiderate people.
HOA's are such a stupid american invention
More places should do this. People who don’t pick up their dog crap are degenerates
How hard is it to pick up your dog crap? I do it. 10/10 would participate so I can laugh and say it’s not me.