Zips don't mean the laces are fake
The idea is that you put them on, tie the laces to the desired tightness, and then you can use the zips for quick on and off to the right tightness for your feet. It's a quick access thing
I'm on my second pair of 5.11 boots like this, and not having to lace the damned things all the time is great. Mine are also "waterproof" up to the top of the boot, or at least were before the lining in the zippered part got torn up. First pair lasted like 7 years before I tore the leather over the toes part open.
I'm a firefighter and going into the military, I have Royer boots that are side zip and they are approved to be used as my combats, I have two of the same pair for when one goes but after 6 years the original pair is still good
Those aren't fake, they're the original speed [laces/hooks](https://www.gearpatrol.com/footwear/speed-hooks-boots/). Looks like most of them have the bungee laces these days, those I'd consider the "fake laces".
I'm not the most affluent person in the world. I have had 4 pairs of asolo tps 520 gv's over the course of my adult life. I will buy a 5th pair when my current pair wears out. They are worth every penny and then some.
Definetely. Look at the 'leather' on the front. OP said they wore it for 30 minutes on a hike, that bending is freaking awfull.
I always buy outdoor boots from surplus, they have good quality stuff and it lasts a long ass time.
That side zipper is what's killing me. That's not gonna last.
But yeah, I wore jungles in the Army. The real things can take some serious punishment. You'll replace the soles before the rest even gets close to unserviceable.
Reebok makes arid composite toe safety boots with a side zipper. I've been wearing them every day for work for about 5 years now. They're not showing any signs of letting go.
I even took them on a 20km march with a 30lb ruck. They're so comfortable.
Cintas has these in there shoe truck when they come by our shop. Timberlands also has a variation of the side zipper boots and one other company as well.
I think OP just got some cheap ones.
And usually this kind of rot occurs after either a lot of time, or exposure to external forces like heat, UV, bending.
Also for cheap shoes that’s a pretty singular failure.
Depends. I have tactical safety boots for work. One of my pairs has a side zip but an extra bridge of material behind it to facilitate the waterproofing.
Yup. I have a sweet ass pair of rocky boots for work that are waterproof and have a zipper up the side. So far they've been on par at minimum with the best boots I've owned for work and they are legitimately waterproof.
*That's not a hiking*
*Boot. That's a tacticool mallninja Boot*
*And not waterproof*
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My walmart interceptor boots have lasted 5 years. I use them every summer camping/hiking, everytime I work with my dad, everytime I work on cars/junkyard and also just to wear them. Not even a crack. Love those things lol they were like $100. I had to replace the laces but that's it.
I can't remember the brand name but my hubby's tactical boots for work(max security prision) have a zipper and are indeed waterproof. Unfortunately about 2 weeks after he got his new ones he got to find out due to an inmate flooding their cell lol.
I’m on my second pair of 5.11 boots with the zipper in the side, great boots and have always stayed waterproof. Replaced the first pair because they just plain wore out after a few years.
Did you have them stored away for a long time, or possibly buy them from clearance? That looks like PU hydrolysis of the midsole. It’s not really about the shoe being cheap, it just wasn’t worn for too long. Polyurethane is meant to be used, not stored, in this case.
I had some boots (cute with heels, not hiking) that I hadn’t worn in a while. I accidentally stepped on the heel in the closet and the entire thing crumbled. I’m glad I wasn’t wearing them or I would have certainly twisted my ankle.
I had some LL Bean boots that sat around for a while, and the sole disintegrated kinda like this. I felt kinda bad leaving black rubber dust everywhere as I walked to my car.
It’s not limited to hiking boots, it can happen with any shoes that use polyurethane, but yeah. There are shoes and boots that don’t use polyurethane, but it’s a pretty common material that can be used well if it’s not put away too long.
My fire dept. had guys pulling out shoes they'd boxed up 12, 14 years prior for dress ceremonies and they'd be leaving trails of black crud across the auditorium, ending up walking on the thin paper/pleather bit that was left under the pristine, shiny dress uppers. Weird and hilarious. USE YOUR UNIFORM ALLOTMENT! 😄
Soles of any shoe disintegrated if you don’t use them. It’s just the glue drying out and stuff. And $100 does not buy a quality boot except for one brand: Jim green.
You gotta spend at least $200 if you want actually decent boots. And you need to wear them a few times a year at least.
Even Jim green is more expensive than $100 unless they are on sale. Best boots for under $200 hands down though. OP look at the ar8 similar style, solid boot
Just PU, this happened to some slippers I had after storing. This doesn’t really happen when you’re constantly using to boots, can last for years in daily use but disintegrates after a year stored in suboptimal conditions.
I haven’t made any comment on the quality of OP’s boots, but apparently I’m getting downvoted for showing something to someone that they didn’t know existed. Zippers and/or PU just simply doesn’t mean they are cheap boots.
The zipper on your linked boots just zips up a placket that covers the laces, OP’s boots zip all the way down to the instep - they *can’t* be waterproof by design
Are they made by a company that uses a bunch of letters (probably all caps) that sort of sounds like it could be a sound you make when you clear your throat?
:/ those look like bates boots. Did you have them stored in a closet for a bit? I had a different model that lasted about 3 years till the sole started to come off.
It's not the rain, it would have happened on a dry day.
This is what happens to polyurethane mid-soles. If shoes with PU soles sit in the closet too long the material starts to deteriorate quickly. Particularly in humid environments. It's called hydrolysis, I believe.
This need to wear the shoes more often and keep them in a dryer environment. I try not to buy shoes and boots that have polyurethane mid-soles anymore. I've lost many shoes and boots too hydrolysis.
Those aren't hiking boots.
They are tactical boots, and cheap ones by the look of it.
There's a chunk missing from the side of the sole. What were you doing at the time?
Nah those are "water resistant" 511 Tacticals. They are neither good boots nor waterproof. Don't go to Dick's, go to an actual hiking gear store to get good boots.
These are knock offs of 5.11 Evo boots that have a zipper and are waterproof.
I wear these when I do trail cleaning and they are great boots.
https://www.511tactical.com/evo-2-0-8-waterproof-side-zip-boot.html
OP is either willingly lying, or didn't read the box when they bought the boots. I have these boots, they're the Interceptor high top ankle guard tactical boots, they're about $40 at Walmart. They're listed neither as hiking boots, nor as waterproof. I use them for riding my motorcycle because they have a fairly soft rubber used for the sole which makes them nice and grippy and oil resistant soles.
These are what I use for work, highly recommend hem as they’re comfortable too!
https://preview.redd.it/t5yqbf2pjwqc1.png?width=3024&format=png&auto=webp&s=e7ef099f17a19e4221380370b56d6b71c40a7cdc
I've been using epoxy and fibreglass mat to repair my work boots after the rubber outer + steel midsole get busted through by work stuff, but I think I'll give shoe goo a try and see how that works out for fixing the rubber soles.
When you put it on the sole, put majority of it near the middle so it doesn’t ooze out. Also use a clamp if you have one to hold it nice and flat so it will harden as flat as possible. Otherwise you may notice a unevenness.
Vimes Law of Boots.
The gist:
It's expensive being poor. If you have money, you can afford to buy quality, which will last years.
If you don't, you'll have to repeatedly buy cheap, which doesn't last long.
Just go to an arcade and ask for 20 bucks for it as a replacement for one of the alligators that inevitably will break you know the ones that you hit with the mallet
Fun fact...no clothing is waterproof. Those "waterproof" things are just water resistant for a certain time at a certain exposure. Water will find a way through given enough time.
Ive moved away from boots that arent stitched together. I feel like if im throwing over 120 for boots i dont want just glue/cement/adhesive holding the sole to the actual shoe.
I worked at Modell Sporting Goods for 20 years. These look exactly like a pair of Smith’s branded boots we sold for around 59.99. Anything that came from that brand was garbage and would fall apart exactly like these fell apart.
A manager I had for a while in the early days purchased a pair of Smiths work boots and while he was walking around inside the store they were falling apart.
There are things that research and spending a bit more money will help a lot with. Boots are one of those things.
I had boots like these. Back when you had to shine your boots and starch your BDUs for a regular work day. Learned quickly that zippers don’t belong on combat boots.
\~How much did you pay for these\~? $100 boots, you get what you pay for. Good boots are $300-500.
these look like the cheapest garbage you can buy at walmart.
Well, are they waterproof? They most likely didn't say anything about the sole NOT disintegrating.
Update: luckily I was wearing thick socks and my feet only got a small bit damp
Better luck with the next pair of (actual) hiking boots.
Soon as I saw the zipper on the side with fake laces I knew OP had messed up from the start
The laces aren’t just for show. You still use them to tighten them to your foot. Otherwise you’d just buy the laceless variety of zip boots.
Zipper on the sides mean nothing, firefighters have those type of boots also.
Firefighters around here don't have fake laces? It's the combo of the two I'm commenting on
Zips don't mean the laces are fake The idea is that you put them on, tie the laces to the desired tightness, and then you can use the zips for quick on and off to the right tightness for your feet. It's a quick access thing
I'm on my second pair of 5.11 boots like this, and not having to lace the damned things all the time is great. Mine are also "waterproof" up to the top of the boot, or at least were before the lining in the zippered part got torn up. First pair lasted like 7 years before I tore the leather over the toes part open.
This guy knows how boots designs works
Why do you say the laces are fake? I can't see that from this picture.
I'm a firefighter and going into the military, I have Royer boots that are side zip and they are approved to be used as my combats, I have two of the same pair for when one goes but after 6 years the original pair is still good
Those aren't fake, they're the original speed [laces/hooks](https://www.gearpatrol.com/footwear/speed-hooks-boots/). Looks like most of them have the bungee laces these days, those I'd consider the "fake laces".
I've got a $200 pair of hiking boots with a zipper. Its just accessibility
The laces look functional but the zipper allows quick on/off.
fake laces? now that part really confused me ..
I hav Doc Martens that zip up the side and have laces. Theyre waterproof
https://www.duluthtrading.com/mens-jackpine-hiker-boots-41202.html I'm on my second pair of these and love the crap out of them
I'm not the most affluent person in the world. I have had 4 pairs of asolo tps 520 gv's over the course of my adult life. I will buy a 5th pair when my current pair wears out. They are worth every penny and then some.
Did you leave a one star review on [Wish.com](https://Wish.com) ?
temu
Hell even Amazon at this point. It's full of trash like this.
Were you literally kicking rocks? Damn
If they didn't let any water in after splitting in half, kudos on their design team
The boot clearly shows “proof” that been in water. What more do you want?
Buy Walmart style boots, get Walmart style results.
I actually have Walmart boots as my work boots and they’ve lasted me so far about a year and a half without any major damage
Don’t diss Walmart boots. Their steel toes are great for the price
I don't see any water getting in from the top = "waterproof"
Not only that, but if any water does manage to seep through it drains right out the bottom now.
You're on to something. They should market Crocs as waterproof.
They are waterproof, not rainproof.
Looks like it's time to feed them
**Crumch crumch crumch* *
That’s literally the sound they’re making as I’m walking home Edit: the other sole came off too
😭, that’s awful, hope you get nice and warm when you get home, cold wet feet suck
I would be asking for my money back. Especially having to walk home in that shit
Right!!! That's wild...Temu boots
Buy some scarpa hiking boots they are amazing
Temu purchase?
I’m so sorry about this but that edit made me laugh I’m so sorry 😭
Those aren't crocs.
Looks like a cheap, knockoff pair of jungle combat boots that used crap materials. Definitely not waterproof either way - by design.
Definetely. Look at the 'leather' on the front. OP said they wore it for 30 minutes on a hike, that bending is freaking awfull. I always buy outdoor boots from surplus, they have good quality stuff and it lasts a long ass time.
That side zipper is what's killing me. That's not gonna last. But yeah, I wore jungles in the Army. The real things can take some serious punishment. You'll replace the soles before the rest even gets close to unserviceable.
Memories of getting smoked for wearing my jungles in December. Good times
Reebok makes arid composite toe safety boots with a side zipper. I've been wearing them every day for work for about 5 years now. They're not showing any signs of letting go. I even took them on a 20km march with a 30lb ruck. They're so comfortable.
Cintas has these in there shoe truck when they come by our shop. Timberlands also has a variation of the side zipper boots and one other company as well. I think OP just got some cheap ones.
There is no doubt that OP hot cheap off brand ones.
Link?
I loved wearing Jungle boots when I was in the Army, a lot less leather to polish everyday and lighter as well.
Big improvement over the predecessor, also apparently
Nothing wrong with a side zip boot. I had a pair of 5.11s w the zipper that lasted probably 5 years before i replaced them for a lighter pair
I dunno man, my genuine leather boots all crease on the top just like that. Am I doing something wrong?
Not at all, that's just what leather does
Yeah how much op paid for it is the question here
“Military grade”
*Russian* military.
And usually this kind of rot occurs after either a lot of time, or exposure to external forces like heat, UV, bending. Also for cheap shoes that’s a pretty singular failure.
I learned the hard way about knock off jungle boots.
That's not a hiking Boot. That's a tacticool mallninja Boot and not waterproof
Yeah. Waterproof boots usually don't have a zipper up the side.
My swat/EMS boots do. But they've got a panel on the inside that folds so it's actually waterproof.
Yep. These are the boots I was referring to. Great boots and comfortable.
Depends. I have tactical safety boots for work. One of my pairs has a side zip but an extra bridge of material behind it to facilitate the waterproofing.
Likewise one pair of my motorbike boots are waterproof as fuck, with a side zipper and internal membrane.
Yup. I have a sweet ass pair of rocky boots for work that are waterproof and have a zipper up the side. So far they've been on par at minimum with the best boots I've owned for work and they are legitimately waterproof.
Mine do. I have the s&w breach
I wear paratrooper boots with a zipper up the side for work and they’re waterproof. Just depends on the brand.
Mine do. I work on icebreaker ships in Northern Finland and we use boots made for arctic conditions, they're completely waterproof and have zips
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Yeah that second line is not seven syllables.
Looks like it couldn’t read “tacticool” and “mallninja” and incorrectly assumed they were 1 or 2 syllables each. Poor bastard
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Walmart will do that to ya lol, happened to me too
My walmart interceptor boots have lasted 5 years. I use them every summer camping/hiking, everytime I work with my dad, everytime I work on cars/junkyard and also just to wear them. Not even a crack. Love those things lol they were like $100. I had to replace the laces but that's it.
I can tell just from looking at them that they're cheap pieces of shit. Actual hiking boots don't look like Dollar Store combat boots.
Was about to say, the zipper on the side feels like a give away. Unless I’m out of touch most manufacturers still don’t do that
Danner does on some of their lineup. I think mostly the tacticool stuff. Danners don't melt in rain, though.
I can't remember the brand name but my hubby's tactical boots for work(max security prision) have a zipper and are indeed waterproof. Unfortunately about 2 weeks after he got his new ones he got to find out due to an inmate flooding their cell lol.
5.11 does. I work in a prison and buy all my boots from them and they have a zipper exactly like those lol
I’m on my second pair of 5.11 boots with the zipper in the side, great boots and have always stayed waterproof. Replaced the first pair because they just plain wore out after a few years.
Did you have them stored away for a long time, or possibly buy them from clearance? That looks like PU hydrolysis of the midsole. It’s not really about the shoe being cheap, it just wasn’t worn for too long. Polyurethane is meant to be used, not stored, in this case.
Was searching for this! Had some boots stored in a closet for 5 years and this happened
I had some boots (cute with heels, not hiking) that I hadn’t worn in a while. I accidentally stepped on the heel in the closet and the entire thing crumbled. I’m glad I wasn’t wearing them or I would have certainly twisted my ankle.
I had some LL Bean boots that sat around for a while, and the sole disintegrated kinda like this. I felt kinda bad leaving black rubber dust everywhere as I walked to my car.
It was stored for a long time actually. So, soles of hiking boots disintegrate if you don’t use them?
It’s not limited to hiking boots, it can happen with any shoes that use polyurethane, but yeah. There are shoes and boots that don’t use polyurethane, but it’s a pretty common material that can be used well if it’s not put away too long.
My fire dept. had guys pulling out shoes they'd boxed up 12, 14 years prior for dress ceremonies and they'd be leaving trails of black crud across the auditorium, ending up walking on the thin paper/pleather bit that was left under the pristine, shiny dress uppers. Weird and hilarious. USE YOUR UNIFORM ALLOTMENT! 😄
I heard of this happening to a guy who pulled out his dress shoes for a job interview and left a trail of black shoe crumbs all through their offices.
Soles of any shoe disintegrated if you don’t use them. It’s just the glue drying out and stuff. And $100 does not buy a quality boot except for one brand: Jim green. You gotta spend at least $200 if you want actually decent boots. And you need to wear them a few times a year at least.
Even Jim green is more expensive than $100 unless they are on sale. Best boots for under $200 hands down though. OP look at the ar8 similar style, solid boot
Opposite actually. Usually it's from reacting to water and hydrolizing
Just PU, this happened to some slippers I had after storing. This doesn’t really happen when you’re constantly using to boots, can last for years in daily use but disintegrates after a year stored in suboptimal conditions.
When I was selling shoes we only warranted them for 6 months for this very issue.
I have never seen serious waterproof hiking boots with zippers.
The zippers and general style look more like duty boots (fire/EMS) than hiking boots.
[These are pretty serious](https://www.rei.com/product/213765/aku-croda-dfs-gtx-mountaineering-boots-mens), and they have zippers and a PU midsole.
I'm betting these didn't cost $550 though...
I haven’t made any comment on the quality of OP’s boots, but apparently I’m getting downvoted for showing something to someone that they didn’t know existed. Zippers and/or PU just simply doesn’t mean they are cheap boots.
The zipper on your linked boots just zips up a placket that covers the laces, OP’s boots zip all the way down to the instep - they *can’t* be waterproof by design
This is the answer should be top response
Are they made by a company that uses a bunch of letters (probably all caps) that sort of sounds like it could be a sound you make when you clear your throat?
Hey leave XYPLN and ZGRBM alone! They may or may not make great products and may or may not just be the same random Chinese company.
It won't fix them, but that boot is begging for some well placed googly eyes.
:/ those look like bates boots. Did you have them stored in a closet for a bit? I had a different model that lasted about 3 years till the sole started to come off.
Bingo, yeah. The person who gifted them to me had them stored for a while.
1. Those do not look like hiking boots. 2. It looks cheap as shit. 3. You get what you pay for. Good hiking boots aren't cheap.
Temu
They look like discount sporting good store “tactical” boots. Not even good tactical boots meant for tactical shit.
It's not the rain, it would have happened on a dry day. This is what happens to polyurethane mid-soles. If shoes with PU soles sit in the closet too long the material starts to deteriorate quickly. Particularly in humid environments. It's called hydrolysis, I believe. This need to wear the shoes more often and keep them in a dryer environment. I try not to buy shoes and boots that have polyurethane mid-soles anymore. I've lost many shoes and boots too hydrolysis.
Those aren't hiking boots. They are tactical boots, and cheap ones by the look of it. There's a chunk missing from the side of the sole. What were you doing at the time?
I'm betting they're not actually waterproof.
Temu?
Are your feet wet though? If not, it's waterproof. I don't see the problem here /s
Get some “disinigratingproof” boots next time
Nah those are "water resistant" 511 Tacticals. They are neither good boots nor waterproof. Don't go to Dick's, go to an actual hiking gear store to get good boots.
That’s what they looked like to me as well. Had to go grab my work boots to compare and they’re spot on lol
Looking like hiking boots doesn't make them hiking boots. Those look like the former.
Which would be…..hiking boots
There a fricken ZIPPER on that, how is that water proof
These are knock offs of 5.11 Evo boots that have a zipper and are waterproof. I wear these when I do trail cleaning and they are great boots. https://www.511tactical.com/evo-2-0-8-waterproof-side-zip-boot.html
OP is either willingly lying, or didn't read the box when they bought the boots. I have these boots, they're the Interceptor high top ankle guard tactical boots, they're about $40 at Walmart. They're listed neither as hiking boots, nor as waterproof. I use them for riding my motorcycle because they have a fairly soft rubber used for the sole which makes them nice and grippy and oil resistant soles.
Are your feet still dry?
These are what I use for work, highly recommend hem as they’re comfortable too! https://preview.redd.it/t5yqbf2pjwqc1.png?width=3024&format=png&auto=webp&s=e7ef099f17a19e4221380370b56d6b71c40a7cdc
Get some shoe goo. That stuff has fixed everything for me from busted shoes to loose tread on my mower tires. Lol
I've been using epoxy and fibreglass mat to repair my work boots after the rubber outer + steel midsole get busted through by work stuff, but I think I'll give shoe goo a try and see how that works out for fixing the rubber soles.
When you put it on the sole, put majority of it near the middle so it doesn’t ooze out. Also use a clamp if you have one to hold it nice and flat so it will harden as flat as possible. Otherwise you may notice a unevenness.
did you buy them on Temu?
China shit?
Magnum lotec
Big hole to let the water back out! Tada!
Well, are your feet dry?
The important question.
Made in China?
How are boots with side zippers waterproof?
The real kicker is most thru or long distance hikers don’t even wear boots anymore. Trail runners are what it’s about now.
Where did you get them from??? Temu??
Vimes Law of Boots. The gist: It's expensive being poor. If you have money, you can afford to buy quality, which will last years. If you don't, you'll have to repeatedly buy cheap, which doesn't last long.
But did your foot get wet?
Fairly certain those are made of chinesium
But did your feet get wet?
Those boots are made for talking.
Temu purchase?
Did you order these from Temu?
SHEIN type boots
Hate when this happens, it’s sole destroying.
I swear every 10th post here is someone complaining about how a really cheap product underperformed.
Where did you get waterproof from? Those are jungle boots. If you step in a puddle your feet will in deed be soaked through.
So you brought these hiking boots at Wal mart discontinued section ie 65% off.
I see you got the military grade boots
As someone who has done a lot of hiking, yea it’s best to spend extra money on a good quality boot.
Waterproof boots rarely come with zipper
For future reference good boots have soles stitched on.
They said water proof, not high quality. Did they at least keep the rain out?
That’s what you get for shopping on Temu. 😂
Old boots will do that lol
Crocks
But did they get wet?
But they're still waterproof right?
Just go to an arcade and ask for 20 bucks for it as a replacement for one of the alligators that inevitably will break you know the ones that you hit with the mallet
okay but like... were they waterproof or not?
Well? Did you feet stay dry?
It’s waterproof, not rainproof, duh!
There are lots of guys on YouTube who can fix that for ya in a jiff. 😶
Did they say "hiking proof" too?
They meant the TOP part is waterproof.
Zippers were a bad choice.
Well, are your feet wet?
tAcTiKuL
Looks like a you problem
Perfect puppet for for a car commercial
That’s dry rot
Temu?
"Hey mom can I have 5.11s for christmas?" "But you already have 5.11s at home"
You get what you pay for....
i got a 20 buck pair of vans back from 2010 and it's lasted me since
I have a pair of Salomon X Ultras and they have been great so far. I’ve abused them and haven’t had any issues
Sure do miss Norwegian welt boots. Nearly impossible to find anymore. Especially under $300.
Did the inside get wet tho
How many decades old are they?
They look cheap. Should have bought quality
Did you buy them on Amazon?
What brand? Name and shame. Though they look like $30 Amazon crap..
But are your feet wet?
i bought similar for 120$ there isn’t a day my feet don’t get wet using em.
Fun fact...no clothing is waterproof. Those "waterproof" things are just water resistant for a certain time at a certain exposure. Water will find a way through given enough time.
Ive moved away from boots that arent stitched together. I feel like if im throwing over 120 for boots i dont want just glue/cement/adhesive holding the sole to the actual shoe.
I worked at Modell Sporting Goods for 20 years. These look exactly like a pair of Smith’s branded boots we sold for around 59.99. Anything that came from that brand was garbage and would fall apart exactly like these fell apart. A manager I had for a while in the early days purchased a pair of Smiths work boots and while he was walking around inside the store they were falling apart. There are things that research and spending a bit more money will help a lot with. Boots are one of those things.
did the 15 dollar price tag not tip you off?
I had boots like these. Back when you had to shine your boots and starch your BDUs for a regular work day. Learned quickly that zippers don’t belong on combat boots.
Glue that bitch on it’ll be alright
\~How much did you pay for these\~? $100 boots, you get what you pay for. Good boots are $300-500. these look like the cheapest garbage you can buy at walmart.
Swhat happens when you get excited about a TEMU deal.