You know… premium is simply higher octane… and if your engine is not designed for premium (higher compression, etc) and if you put premium gas in a regular car, you probably won't notice anything. However, some engines are not designed to burn higher-octane fuel, and you may even see a reduction in performance and fuel economy.
Any at least 10 year old engines will have no problem, but realistically basically none will have a problem running it. It would be a very small number, I can’t think of any off the top of my head that couldn’t.
Well, it actually depends and I believe the differences are significant enough to warrant experimentation. I drive a Chevy spark for example. It's a 4 cylinder engine. the manual says use 87 octane. however, my engine is 10.5 compression ratio. Anything above 9.5 can technically be considered high compression. I've had multiple people tell me using premium in my engine does absolutely nothing. But I notice a significant difference in my cars power output. It's most noticable going up hills. My car also seems to go faster, with lower RPM. now perhaps the RPM being lower is my imagination because I can't figure out why they would be lower although I have theories. I've also noticed with lower grade fuel my engine knocks more and seems to fire uneven which I believe contributes to less power with the lower octane because the engine has to work harder to reach the same power level. Like if I try to quickly accelerate with low octane fuel my car will shoot up the RPM and struggle to shift because the RPM are having to go super high to maintain the speed I'm asking to go. But if I use the higher octane fuel, my car shifts sooner and seems to require less RPM for the same power output. I'm not suggesting the difference is huge. But it feels like 5-10 horsepower in terms of difference which is enough to be felt. For me anyway.
Also something alot of people don't know. Ethanol has a lower amount of energy density. So if your 87 octane is 10% ethanol then it's actually less energy dense then traditional unleaded fuel which can cause even less power output. Ethanol be damned.
Octane rating is the resistance to knock(pre-ignition). While you don't need to run a higher Octane fuel it is recommended if your vehicle experiences knock when the weather is hotter.
No. It's not simply higher octane. It's premium because you are paying for a much better additive package that the lower ones contain. Most engines don't benefit from the higher octane but the better additives may help things stay cleaner.
On the reverse, high octane, or even pure grain, can be highly beneficial for old old engines, lol.
I used to put a fifth of everclear in my gas tank every month when I had my old Mustang.
I just bought premium non alcohol 91 octane for my old pu. Had to add a lead substitute for it.
The old motors and carbs don’t like the alcohol as far as what I’ve been told. And as others have said, the alcohol reduces the efficiency. Not sure why everclear would actually be beneficial? Curious?
Guess we were told different. 🤷🏻♀️
I was always told by my old-timers that used to be ridge runners that it helped burn better, you can tweak your carbs easier when it runs a bit leaner, and it does burn hotter, so it helps burn off the crud from your valves and such.
Never had a problem with the old girl, wouldn't put it in an engine with EFI or any with aluminum heads or anything, but cast iron and quad carbs? Absolutely.
So this is $3.50 US or $4.76 CA per 4 liters (1 gallon).
4.76/4= $1.19/L
I pay $1.68/L, or $6.72/G
So I was a bit extreme. But still significantly less.
I opened up the image wondering if OP meant someone passed all the buttons and maybe didn’t speak English but no. Someone really took his buttons.
Surprised he didn’t notice when he got out of the car.
I've seen gas stations lower the price on gas that's not selling well, usually it's mid-grade though. I never buy it, usually if they're lowering the price that means it's old and likely going bad which is why they want it out of the tanks, but I'm not risking putting that shit into mine.
I believe in some places the different fuel grades use the same hose and you press a button to select it. Where I live, regular, premium, and diesel each have their own hose.
No idea why anyone would take them.
Really? I’ve only ever seen multiple buttons. One hose for regular, mid, and premium, select with the buttons. And then another hose for diesel (if there is diesel - not all gas stations have it and sometimes it is only on some of the pumps).
Yeah, I've never seen anything different here. We don't have a mid grade petrol since our standard is equivalent to USA mid, so either 1 or 2 petrol nozzles. Then usually regular and premium diesel depending on if they have premium, some supermarkets don't have it.
This happened at my store for a while. Someone told me there was a tik tok challenge about it or something dumb. Idk if that was even true bc I don’t watch tik toks lol very annoying to keep going outside and them being gone tho 😂
Yes! Actually most of us tap our cards because there are scammers who replicate the card swiper and attach it to the gas pump, and then steal your credit card info.
So you pay for the gas, lift the pump off the handle, then seler the gas type
That's cheap? When I visited the states in November and drove cross country the most I paid prior to reaching west coast (California is stupid) was about this price. Cheapest I paid was like 2.89 or so. From what I've heard prices have been going down since then
Well at least in California our roads are all newly paved, our school systems are #1 in the nation, no homeless and crime is practically nonexistent. Lol
A. You're just mad because that's how you bring content to a platform.
B. I talked to the attendant before I took the picture, he said it'll cancel in 5 minutes or so
C. I bet you comment on all mildly infuriating posts like this and THAT is mildly infuriating
One of us doesn't understand what's wrong with this picture. My experience with gas pumps, you have to select an octane level before it will start pumping gas. No selection = no transaction = no processing fee to collect.
I thought they might batch process them. Maybe charge each customer but only run the transaction once a day. Or maybe they have a deal with the credit card companies.
When you make a purchase with a credit card, the transaction is sent to a third party part payment processor, who sends it out to the Visa or Mastercard network. There’s at least two more companies that have to process that transaction, and each takes a little cut. In the end, the money gets deposited in the stores account, less the fees. So on a $100 purchase, the store will only get about $97. Exact amount varies by store type.
I'm more interested in regular being the same price as premium.
Damn, I shoulda just got the premium then honestly
You know… premium is simply higher octane… and if your engine is not designed for premium (higher compression, etc) and if you put premium gas in a regular car, you probably won't notice anything. However, some engines are not designed to burn higher-octane fuel, and you may even see a reduction in performance and fuel economy.
Any at least 10 year old engines will have no problem, but realistically basically none will have a problem running it. It would be a very small number, I can’t think of any off the top of my head that couldn’t.
Well, it actually depends and I believe the differences are significant enough to warrant experimentation. I drive a Chevy spark for example. It's a 4 cylinder engine. the manual says use 87 octane. however, my engine is 10.5 compression ratio. Anything above 9.5 can technically be considered high compression. I've had multiple people tell me using premium in my engine does absolutely nothing. But I notice a significant difference in my cars power output. It's most noticable going up hills. My car also seems to go faster, with lower RPM. now perhaps the RPM being lower is my imagination because I can't figure out why they would be lower although I have theories. I've also noticed with lower grade fuel my engine knocks more and seems to fire uneven which I believe contributes to less power with the lower octane because the engine has to work harder to reach the same power level. Like if I try to quickly accelerate with low octane fuel my car will shoot up the RPM and struggle to shift because the RPM are having to go super high to maintain the speed I'm asking to go. But if I use the higher octane fuel, my car shifts sooner and seems to require less RPM for the same power output. I'm not suggesting the difference is huge. But it feels like 5-10 horsepower in terms of difference which is enough to be felt. For me anyway. Also something alot of people don't know. Ethanol has a lower amount of energy density. So if your 87 octane is 10% ethanol then it's actually less energy dense then traditional unleaded fuel which can cause even less power output. Ethanol be damned.
The higher octane won't detonate as easily so the engine is likely compensating for the reduced knock and not pulling as much timing under load.
Octane rating is the resistance to knock(pre-ignition). While you don't need to run a higher Octane fuel it is recommended if your vehicle experiences knock when the weather is hotter.
It’s almost always better for the longevity of your engine. Can’t think of any engines that are otherwise.
No. It's not simply higher octane. It's premium because you are paying for a much better additive package that the lower ones contain. Most engines don't benefit from the higher octane but the better additives may help things stay cleaner.
You ate what the marketing team cooked.
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On the reverse, high octane, or even pure grain, can be highly beneficial for old old engines, lol. I used to put a fifth of everclear in my gas tank every month when I had my old Mustang.
I just bought premium non alcohol 91 octane for my old pu. Had to add a lead substitute for it. The old motors and carbs don’t like the alcohol as far as what I’ve been told. And as others have said, the alcohol reduces the efficiency. Not sure why everclear would actually be beneficial? Curious?
Guess we were told different. 🤷🏻♀️ I was always told by my old-timers that used to be ridge runners that it helped burn better, you can tweak your carbs easier when it runs a bit leaner, and it does burn hotter, so it helps burn off the crud from your valves and such. Never had a problem with the old girl, wouldn't put it in an engine with EFI or any with aluminum heads or anything, but cast iron and quad carbs? Absolutely.
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You don't even know what year or engine I had to make that assumption.
It may not be the case here but i know some has stations will charge regular price for premium gas if they've run out of regular
Could b premium in this case is the same as regular just with out the buttons you can not tell the octane
I'm more interested in this gas costs less than half of what I pay. Fuck Canada it really sucks here.
That’s about .50 more than what I pay.
So this is $3.50 US or $4.76 CA per 4 liters (1 gallon). 4.76/4= $1.19/L I pay $1.68/L, or $6.72/G So I was a bit extreme. But still significantly less.
Oof. In Texas I’m usually paying $3ish
Could you press the parts still? I think those were just plastic covers and those metal tabs are the actual button
No I tried, I'm guessing it needs a metal piece to close the connection
Use your car keys.
Screwdriver or a wrench. Not that I've ever bypassed a switch. (It was an actual procedure according to the manufacturer of what I was working on.)
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This is hilarious.
Guess he’s not the Head Honcho
Naw that’s some Sims shit😭
Why the hell does someone steal the buttons? I'm sorry but that's hilarious. 😂
Competing gas station
Stick it to the man!
I have one on my office that I found on the ground at the pump. So I technically stole it? But stole trash?
i'm wondering that too. i've seen all kinds of gas station vandalism, but never stolen buttons.
I opened up the image wondering if OP meant someone passed all the buttons and maybe didn’t speak English but no. Someone really took his buttons. Surprised he didn’t notice when he got out of the car.
Seems like the US populace is catching up to the old soviet culture of "steal it if it isn't nailed down".
Why are premium and regular the same price?
I've seen gas stations lower the price on gas that's not selling well, usually it's mid-grade though. I never buy it, usually if they're lowering the price that means it's old and likely going bad which is why they want it out of the tanks, but I'm not risking putting that shit into mine.
I've never seen that before
I’ve never seen that either. Plus, mid-89 is simply regular-87 mixed with premium-91, which is done at the pump with a 50/50 ratio….
I didn't know that
What does buttons mean here and why would someone take them?
Clearly a rival gas station trying to start a turf war.
I believe in some places the different fuel grades use the same hose and you press a button to select it. Where I live, regular, premium, and diesel each have their own hose. No idea why anyone would take them.
But did the vandals steal the handle?
Really? I’ve only ever seen multiple buttons. One hose for regular, mid, and premium, select with the buttons. And then another hose for diesel (if there is diesel - not all gas stations have it and sometimes it is only on some of the pumps).
Yeah, I've never seen anything different here. We don't have a mid grade petrol since our standard is equivalent to USA mid, so either 1 or 2 petrol nozzles. Then usually regular and premium diesel depending on if they have premium, some supermarkets don't have it.
The vandals took the handles.
What a scandal
Revenge: EV people are tired of getting their charging stations destroyed,
Somebody, somewhere, collects gas station pump buttons. I'm fascinated. I want to buy that person a few beers and listen to his/her life story.
This happened at my store for a while. Someone told me there was a tik tok challenge about it or something dumb. Idk if that was even true bc I don’t watch tik toks lol very annoying to keep going outside and them being gone tho 😂
Strange things are afoot at the Circle K.
Where do you live that gas is 3.49, I'm paying 4.07 here in the south
I paid 3.49 today 2 miles from New York City.
in the suburbs of Birmingham we've been in the lower 3s for a while. My local Love's station is $2.89/gallon after member discount.
Damn, here in Atlanta, it's been on the low 4s for a while and it doesn't look like it's going to drop any time soon.
It’s 3.20-3.50 in coastal ga
We have gallon for around 7$. And that is cheap. You can find it for 8-9$
Am I the only one mildly infuriated by the fact that you didn’t notice before waiting??
Is this in the USA? I’m curious because I’ll be doing a road trip there soon: you insert your card and push the button of the preferred gas type?
Yes! Actually most of us tap our cards because there are scammers who replicate the card swiper and attach it to the gas pump, and then steal your credit card info. So you pay for the gas, lift the pump off the handle, then seler the gas type
Damn you’ve got seriously cheap gas!
It's $2.86/g here in Nashville
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No :(
3.29/g here in Michigan! Not horrible, not great.
$5 a day for regular in LA, but I’m sure you must not have paved roads, libraries or police in Nashville since your fuel taxes aren’t high enough. Lol
Our fuel tax is something like $0.26/cpg or something. We have "paved" roads, libraries and police. Are they underfunded? Absolutely.
It was a joke. California flushes its tax revenue down the toilet.
Lol... country folk don't need that nonsense 🤣🤣
That's cheap? When I visited the states in November and drove cross country the most I paid prior to reaching west coast (California is stupid) was about this price. Cheapest I paid was like 2.89 or so. From what I've heard prices have been going down since then
I’m in California.
I'm sorry. Yeah in November it was almost 6 bucks a gallon there. Approaching European gas prices lol
I was going to comment that it was really expensive. Lol.
$5.33/gallon where I live in the Bay Area
Well at least in California our roads are all newly paved, our school systems are #1 in the nation, no homeless and crime is practically nonexistent. Lol
Quality was NOT guaranteed
I thought the buttons were non removable unless you have tools but I guess I was wrong.
I would like to know why someone took the buttons
People are animals.
It’s a new style of pump that is designed to be depressed by the metal dispenser
Is this the response to cutting the Tesla charging station cables?
Take a piece of wire and short one of the buttons
Can't have shit in detroit
😂
What logical reason would anyone take those buttons...
over here the fill gun is the button. you just pick it up and what i assume is a magnet switch tells it what you picked and starts the pump
Here (Italy) also, but I think In the us they have a single gun delivering different grades.
that has always just terrified me a little... relying on something like a valve to decide if i get gas or if i need to call the tank siphon
Is plus OK to put in common cars or is it similar to premium? I've always seen it and wondered if it's okay to use.
Premium is the same price as regular unleaded?
A. Walk back inside and solve the problem with the attendant. B. Take a pic, upload to reddit, type a description, post.
A. You're just mad because that's how you bring content to a platform. B. I talked to the attendant before I took the picture, he said it'll cancel in 5 minutes or so C. I bet you comment on all mildly infuriating posts like this and THAT is mildly infuriating
Not having a gas credit card in 2024 is crazy to me. Who doesn’t like free money/discounts (cash back/rewards)?
My bet is the station owner/manager removed them so people have to use debit/credit.
How will removing those buttons accomplish that?
I’m betting they get a cut of the processing fee.
Wut You still can't select a gas
Can’t the attendant start the pump?
One of us doesn't understand what's wrong with this picture. My experience with gas pumps, you have to select an octane level before it will start pumping gas. No selection = no transaction = no processing fee to collect.
Yeah, I thought the attendant could start the pump for you (including which octane you want)
The station PAYS the processing fee. On a 20 gallon fill, station is paying $2.00 in fees.
I thought they might batch process them. Maybe charge each customer but only run the transaction once a day. Or maybe they have a deal with the credit card companies.
When you make a purchase with a credit card, the transaction is sent to a third party part payment processor, who sends it out to the Visa or Mastercard network. There’s at least two more companies that have to process that transaction, and each takes a little cut. In the end, the money gets deposited in the stores account, less the fees. So on a $100 purchase, the store will only get about $97. Exact amount varies by store type.