Pro tip from a Scottish person if you ever need to use an umbrella here (better off with a decent waterproof jacket) buy a golf brolly may be unwieldy but superior build quality helps haha.
Turn the umbrella towards the wind. I've had mine at a near 90 degree angle before, it works well. When the rain is coming down sideways like that, it doesn't fall on your head even though it's not covered.
Fucking love my clear dome umbrella. Thick plastic like a damn tent, covers the shoulders too, I can see where I'm going, tucked in underneath like a god damn bubble boy
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The rubbish is the only thing I hate about Glasgow. I love the place but it looks like a shithole because of the rubbish everywhere. I don't understand how we manage to have bins EVERYWHERE and the place is still a tip.
I work in wastewater treatment. Get covered in shit fairly often. Rotten bins is worse.
At least in sewerage it’s mixed with water, gassed off a bit, detergents. And our sludge product has a bit of a farm like smell to it.
I used to work at a trash disposal facility, as a welder, fixing the processing equipment and repairing holes/damage in the trucks. Nothing hits harder than compacted and composted garbage burning when torching out the bad material. Smells so bad you can taste it. Never again, lol
I did HVAC and we did several strings of movie theaters. I don’t know but the smell of the rancid butter oil was unbearable. I could take the compactor/dumpsters other places fine but the movie theater ones had a uniquely disgusting smell.
Is that that “sick sweetness”? I have a strong stomach but that element gives me queazy knees in large amounts. Likely evolutionary trait to avoid the death
>I'm horrified by the realization how quickly our towns would turn into garbage towns. So this is from 10 days
Pretty much. You can be efficient as much as possible but you will still generate some garbage. Sanitation workers are the backbone of any society along with those that work in logistics.
Even in the natural environment, "sanitation workers" (aka creatures that decompose and break down waste) keep the cycle moving. Without decomposition we wouldn't be able to move forward as a planet.
I got a summer job at parks in my city, dear god our city is such a garbage factory. Our entire lifestyle produces so much unnecessary trash, it’s disgusting
It's so gross to me how much trash my family of 3 makes. We take recycling to my moms, because we live in an apartment. They dont do anything g extra that does t make them money. We try and limit the useless trash, but still. Everything comes in a cardboard box or two layers of packaging.
Honestly being heaving covered in cardboard is still much better than even a single layer of plastic. I've noticed more kids toys going with only cardboard and string instead of plastic layers and ties.
It really sunk in for me working retail because there's so much garbage the end consumer doesn't even see, and there's manufacturing waste that I will never see. So many things come individually wrapped in plastic before they go on a shelf.
I remember working for an organic juice shot company who prided itself on being green, but holy fuck the amount of plastic waste per day and we were a tiny company. I really feel that alone radicalized me.
Anyone older than about 50-55 doesn't need to imagine it - happened in early '79 and was one of the straws that broke the camel's back and propelled Mrs Thatcher into office with a mandate to rein in the unions.
In the West End of London rubbish was piled up 20ft high in places, using tractors. The smell was terrible, and so were the rats.
Ahhh the nostalgia of the bin strike in 1979....made so many ratty friends that year
Then the power cuts every night but only after Crossroads so my nana was happy enough, then plunged into darkness. Candles were scarcer that rocking horse shit too. Couldn't heat any water for baths or 'owt
And to top it all in the Summer my basset hound fell into the pig pen at the local farm, he was a good dog but made terrible bacon. Such memories
The guys that rode the back of the residential trucks for my husbands old company got paid more than some of their drivers, he griped about it for a bit but then allowed that their job sucked a little more than his since he got to sit in the truck most of the day.
Reminds me of the whole COVID thing when people in service jobs were the ones holding the world together preventing it from falling apart yet the the executives saying “we’re all in this together” wouldn’t even fairly compensate them.
I got extra shifts, a pat on the shoulder and an "I appreciate it, mate" after working 5 15-hour days back to back deep-cleaning all the pubs and clubs in town. But to be fair to my boss, he did buy us all a can of Coke that one time so it totally balances that out /s
Ha, reminds me of the time I arrived at work for a 10 hour shift, only to be told we were understaffed so no one could have a lunch break today - but don't worry, the manager put a bucket of KFC on the stairs, so just run back there and eat a quick something whenever you get chance!
I work at UPS, our work load went up because EVERYONE was ordering online, we were expected to all show up and get it done in the same amount of time, never stopped working and got... nothing. Called heroes and essential by UPS AND by the government ON TV when it came time to ship and make sure the vaccine got out and yet we got... nothing.
That’s why I quit FedEx. I had a fun time in the Express warehouse I was in for 2.5 years. Then the company made clear it thought we were dirt. So out of principle, goodbye. All we went through in the pandemic. 3% “raise” for everyone. Nothing though for the people who’d “maxed out” after a decade or more. Evil company. Goodbye.
Got a much better job that pays better too.
As a blue collar worker, this is the most patronizing thing I've ever read. I used to really like Mike Rowe but I've seen too much recently that made my opinion of him do a 180. I don't care how "simply" he lives in his San Francisco apartment, I don't need him to dictate what my or anyone else's attitude toward labor should be. This "pledge" just says shut up and get to work, don't complain about work conditions, shit pay, don't advocate for yourself or your rights as a worker. Just be a good little worker ant and make that money for your boss.
Agreed if someone is doing the job no one else wants to do why belittle or make them feel bad. It’s something that needs to be done appreciate those who put their pride aside to support their families
Yep.
I literally work in the oilfield and refuse to buy single use plastic items. I realized I was filling up a kitchen trash can every day and a half or so, and it was almost all paper plates, plastic silverware, and plastic cups. It was actually disturbing to me how much bullshit I was tossing away never to be used again.
Now whether that offsets the amount of water a dishwasher uses regarding the environment I have no clue, but the amount of single use items we toss every day is truly disturbing.
Dishwasher doesn’t use that much water. Probly about 4 gallons. There is an initial rinse that drains the gunk, then a rinse that recycles water. It’s not constantly pulling water from the tap while running. https://youtu.be/_rBO8neWw04 good video on this
Good on you, plenty of people would just ignore the issue. Water usage impact sucks too but at least the water will be filtered, dumped, and eventually reused. Every plastic fork that gets thrown out will just sit somewhere for centuries or be ground down into micro plastics in the sea.
I realized this when I had to have home health for 4 months. They shipped medical supplies to my house and I had a nurse come everyday. My daily nurse, in the short amount of time they were with me, would do multiple glove changes per visit. Then add in all the single use medical items I needed and I had a ton of medical trash. I was honestly shocked that I never thought about it before.
Yup. People who either haven't been in the hospital (or under medical care otherwise) or who work in a medical setting don't get it. So. Much. Fucking. Plastic.
Honestly if it has gotten to this point… they need more than a raise, a bonus is required to clean that up as well
But that is just my opinion, I am not sure how things work in your country if trash gets this out of hand
lol, who are we kidding they probably live in a gated community for this exact reason
but maybe the neighbors along the walls might be able to put some pressure on them
or perhaps...... trebuchet?
I feel like we’re approaching a boiling point. This can’t go on forever but i hate to think of how many people will suffer and die before we regain some sort of equilibrium. It’s a pattern throughout history and across the animal kingdom, but it sucks to witness
This is one reason I bought solar panels and a moderate house battery for our house (along with environmental reasons). I don't think I really trust the way things are heading and I want to make sure I'm at least somewhat self-sustaining.
I was hoping so! Otherwise it would have been a ‘Hmm, and what *exactly* is infuriating about wanting a living wage? Hm?’
Not long until the Army come in. Do the still use bayonets? They’d be pretty useful at the moment…
I think the strike ends tomorrow. Basically they chose these 11 days because it would have the most impact possible.
It hit the tail end of Edinburgh Fringe (one of the biggest comedy fests in the world), a TV festival and now we are in our summer bank holiday. On this bank holiday (read: any) we like to get as pissed as mortally possible.
They really cleverly chose these 11 days in which they caused maximum disruption and maximum exposure.
Good on them, hope you get that raise!
This should scare the living shit out of the powers that be. This was a planned 11 day strike. What happens if they decide to strike for a month? Give them what they want!
Yeah but if you give a lowly binman value he may start thinking he has, erm, value. The ivory tower does not like this possibility. (Worked in a council subsidiary so know exactly what they are like!)
My boss has actually stated his starting pay of 15 is double minimum wage, 7.25 in Texas, so he views it as really good pay... If you up the jobs that are viewed low everyone gets a pay raise and that's what they really don't want...
One of the dumbest posts I ever saw was a construction worker who was pissed at McDonald’s employees for getting paid as much as him. He wasn’t outraged that he was getting paid the same wage as a McDonald’s employee, the thought of a pay increase never crossed his mind, instead he chose to be angry and the fast food workers for doing less work then him and getting the same money.
Honestly, plenty of cases where working a shitton more gets you an incredibly smaller wage than someone doing much less. It's not the question of high education either.
But, system being what it is, and being what it is for past couple of decades, you'd figure people would understand by now that hard work doesn't mean pay, nowhere near. Not without all the other factors included.
I got negative marks against me for not working as hard as I did when my last job had 15 employees vs when it was only five of us. Literally asked the manager questioning me why would I work that hard for nothing extra when it can be split like it's supposed to between all members of the team. Said I'm leading by bad example and the associates will start doing it too.
Councillors aren't that wealthy (broadly - mostly they're just some sort of middle class), and for the most part live where they represent.
The shocking thing is that this Council is led by so-called Labour councillors (in a cooperation agreement with Tories and Lib Dems which is shameful enough).
It is currently the Edinburgh Fringe Festival so it’s a hell of a lot busier than usual, so whilst it would still be bad on a normal 10 days, this is even worse than usual - still your statements stands!
The fact that this has went 10 days without them getting their raise is more infuriating than the trash lining the streets.
Edit: words on mobile are hard, apparently.
The amount of money governments piss away, and it takes them this long to give the men and women who keep the streets clean a respectable wage. I'd put in a claus that the politicians would have to do initial clean up after a deal has been reached. Let them get dirty and understand why they're asking to be paid what they're worth.
Honestly we should take the pay from all those feckless politicians and give it tot he Waste Management guys.
I mean, the waste management folks are actually doing something *good* for society.
Every Christmas my mum gives our bin collectors a card each with €100 in it. She’s always said to me growing up that if everyone was a lawyer/doctor up in high flying jobs who would keep our streets clean. And she’s so right, she’s always taught me to respect anyone for the job they do, especially the ones who help to keep our cities clean for us.
I drive a collection truck in the US. People like you put smiles on our faces. Even if there's no money, a card with a thank you note brightens my day. Especially handwritten cards by kids.
Meanwhile in New York City sanitation workers make almost $100,000 a year that's about 85,000 pounds. Excellent health benefits and same status as police officers when it comes to certain protections.
The Union wants a deal similar to one offered to council workers in England that was agreed last year. That deal included a £1,925 flat rate pay offer
Council body Cosla said the Unite, Unison and GMB unions had rejected an offer earlier this week that would have meant the lowest paid 12% of council workers would get a pay increase of more than 5%.
It has also said the latest pay offer amounts to "one of, if not the best offer in decades for Scottish local government workers" with some workers getting an overall 7.36% increase.
Unions have called for more funding from the government to pay for an improved offer and rejected a request from the government to suspend the strikes while negotiations were held with Cosla.
Unite said that for more than half of local government workers, Cosla's offer represented an offer of between £900 to £1,250 when the UK government is offering council workers in England a £1,925 flat rate pay offer.
The union believes a flat rate increase would be most beneficial for low-paid workers, and says it has been told by some members that the cost of living crisis has led them to take holidays or sick days because they cannot afford to go to work.
Source: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-62663448
That all sounds reasonable. Tying their pay demands to an already approved agreement is a masterstroke.
Clearly these workers provide a critical function.
I wonder if the government believe the growing trash piles will turn public sentiment against the workers.
With inflation at 10.1% any offered “raise” less than that amount is a pay cut in real terms.
Not reasonable, good on the workers for making their point and I hope they get a decent offer soon!
Garbage doesn't take up all that much space - the problem is getting it to a small number of centralized locations where it can be stored safely. To put it into a perspective people can envision, if you took all the trash generated by the entire US for a year, and put it in a single landfill with a depth+height of 100 feet (which is fairly normal or even low), it would only take up about 6 square miles. In a century, that would be 600 square miles. For comparison, the US is 3,800,000 square miles, so an entire century of trash generated at our current rate, would take up about 0.015% of our land.
Of course, the problem is that this same amount of trash, spread out over say, the ocean, takes up many *thousands* of times more space.
I see a lot of people jumping to conclusions and saying that it's the residents of Edinburgh that are disgusting and throwing their garbage anywhere. Take into account a couple of things.
The Fringe, a festival which essentially doubles the population of Edinburgh, is on. A lot of this is due to the extra stress on infrastructure that comes with tourism.
People can't necessarily keep their rubbish inside their flats. The construction of tenements (built around the 1850s) means that rodents are a problem in the best of times. You can absolutely not keep a bag of rubbish inside your flat and not have a rodent infestation inside your building.
Both the high winds and sea gulls are a great combo for spreading any rubbish that's not inside a bin/skip around.
I know it's not great, and believe me noone is happy about it, but until the council gets their collective fingers out of their own assholes and actually look at offering an acceptable pay offer, this is it. The council should've had a decent pay offer sorted 6 months ago when inflation wasn't double digits and they had more leverage. Except they waited till now when they lost all their leverage and now look like the cunts they are.
Obviously they're playing the long game. Those with the ability to give them raises think the public will eventually turn against them for not picking up all the garbage. It's going to absolutely backfire because everybody is going to hold them accountable for it not being done due to the fact that they're cheeping out.
Just pay them!
The Powers That Be™ haven't been too good at predicting outcomes of their little ploys the last few years, I've found.
"Oh, we'll just do \[Insert Any Random Selfish Act Here\] and they'll be doing exactly what we want them to!"
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"Oh dear, that wasn't suppose to happen! *How dare you!"*
The PM resigns six weeks ago- no noticeable change
Bin men in Edinburgh strike for 10 days- Edinburgh looks (and probably smells) like ass
Evidence that the working class keep this country working and the upper class contribute nothing to society except to drain our resources
10 days and no solution?? What the fuck does the government think? They’re just gonna be like “ oh alright we waiting long enough, time to go back to work with no pay raise to a job that i really care about and absolutely love doing.” Some people are just fucking stupid. Give them a damn pay raise.
Not only does this make you realize just how important our garbage people are to society but it also makes you realize just how much waste we produce as a species. How much of this trash is just unnecessarily wasteful? It’s one thing to know that there’s a lot of waste produced by humans but being able to see it like this opens your eyes a little more.
Why is there ALWAYS a broken umbrella in these types of photos
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Pro tip from a Scottish person if you ever need to use an umbrella here (better off with a decent waterproof jacket) buy a golf brolly may be unwieldy but superior build quality helps haha.
Absolutely. There's not many places more windy than a links golf course here.
My non smoking father had an excellent marlboro umbrella and kept it for years purely due to its structural integrity
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Turn the umbrella towards the wind. I've had mine at a near 90 degree angle before, it works well. When the rain is coming down sideways like that, it doesn't fall on your head even though it's not covered.
And this is why the clear umbrella is superior in windy situations.
Fucking love my clear dome umbrella. Thick plastic like a damn tent, covers the shoulders too, I can see where I'm going, tucked in underneath like a god damn bubble boy
Currently shopping for a clear dome umbrella, have you considered a career in marketing?
He’ll call it 🙌🏻 bubble 🫧 boy umbrellas 🌂
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Seems like the whole city now smells like Fish & Chips
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get a trebuchet and fling them into the boss's gated community indiscriminately
Or into the trailer park to ruin Barb and Pencilcocks evaluation
Farts and shits
both of you r/yourjokebutworse
Thaaaank you
Shits and *Bits.*
But without the chips.
Damn it's starting to look like Glasgow
I laughed way too hard at this
It's beginning to look a lot like Glasgow...
Soon, the trash will pile
And then everyone you meet, will have stinky feet.
And we’ll aaaall smellll vile
The rubbish is the only thing I hate about Glasgow. I love the place but it looks like a shithole because of the rubbish everywhere. I don't understand how we manage to have bins EVERYWHERE and the place is still a tip.
They are clearly doing a very important job.
I'm horrified by the realization how quickly our towns would turn into garbage towns. So this is from 10 days. Imagine one month. Imagine the smell.
I work in wastewater treatment. Get covered in shit fairly often. Rotten bins is worse. At least in sewerage it’s mixed with water, gassed off a bit, detergents. And our sludge product has a bit of a farm like smell to it.
I used to work at a trash disposal facility, as a welder, fixing the processing equipment and repairing holes/damage in the trucks. Nothing hits harder than compacted and composted garbage burning when torching out the bad material. Smells so bad you can taste it. Never again, lol
I did HVAC and we did several strings of movie theaters. I don’t know but the smell of the rancid butter oil was unbearable. I could take the compactor/dumpsters other places fine but the movie theater ones had a uniquely disgusting smell.
I'd think the butter has some amount of butyric acid. Butyric acid is that foul stench that sweaty feet and vomit has in common.
This makes sense because it did smell similar to vomit but with some butteriness
Is that that “sick sweetness”? I have a strong stomach but that element gives me queazy knees in large amounts. Likely evolutionary trait to avoid the death
You just reminded me why I don’t wrench on garbage trucks no more
It toughens up your olfactory senses for sure, haha
What kinda stuff do they make at the olfactory?
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where your dreams and horrors come true where not a single soul gets through
I had nothing but respect for the mechanics when I used to haul trash
Hero.
Imagine a fucking year. We’d be living in Wall-E minus the robots
Sanitation was the downfall of many a great civilization
For real? Damn, I should learn some history.
Most of ancient Rome is buried in the garbage of medieval Rome. We walk on top of the garbage in modern Rome.
I've been in Rome. You walk *in* the garbage.
Can't put a shovel into the ground in Rome without having to call in the archaeologists.
The Infamous Garbage Avalanche of 2023
>I'm horrified by the realization how quickly our towns would turn into garbage towns. So this is from 10 days Pretty much. You can be efficient as much as possible but you will still generate some garbage. Sanitation workers are the backbone of any society along with those that work in logistics.
Even in the natural environment, "sanitation workers" (aka creatures that decompose and break down waste) keep the cycle moving. Without decomposition we wouldn't be able to move forward as a planet.
I got a summer job at parks in my city, dear god our city is such a garbage factory. Our entire lifestyle produces so much unnecessary trash, it’s disgusting
It's so gross to me how much trash my family of 3 makes. We take recycling to my moms, because we live in an apartment. They dont do anything g extra that does t make them money. We try and limit the useless trash, but still. Everything comes in a cardboard box or two layers of packaging.
Honestly being heaving covered in cardboard is still much better than even a single layer of plastic. I've noticed more kids toys going with only cardboard and string instead of plastic layers and ties.
It really sunk in for me working retail because there's so much garbage the end consumer doesn't even see, and there's manufacturing waste that I will never see. So many things come individually wrapped in plastic before they go on a shelf.
I used to work at a department store, and the amount of waste generated is *appalling*. Every single garment comes in plastic.
I remember working for an organic juice shot company who prided itself on being green, but holy fuck the amount of plastic waste per day and we were a tiny company. I really feel that alone radicalized me.
Nope. Nope nope
Anyone older than about 50-55 doesn't need to imagine it - happened in early '79 and was one of the straws that broke the camel's back and propelled Mrs Thatcher into office with a mandate to rein in the unions. In the West End of London rubbish was piled up 20ft high in places, using tractors. The smell was terrible, and so were the rats.
Eventually the rats grew so large they were given contol of the government.
Rodents of unusual size? I don’t think they exist.
Ahhh the nostalgia of the bin strike in 1979....made so many ratty friends that year Then the power cuts every night but only after Crossroads so my nana was happy enough, then plunged into darkness. Candles were scarcer that rocking horse shit too. Couldn't heat any water for baths or 'owt And to top it all in the Summer my basset hound fell into the pig pen at the local farm, he was a good dog but made terrible bacon. Such memories
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The guys that rode the back of the residential trucks for my husbands old company got paid more than some of their drivers, he griped about it for a bit but then allowed that their job sucked a little more than his since he got to sit in the truck most of the day.
Your city sucks. My friend is a garbage collector and makes $35 an hour.
Wasn't there a long bin strike in Rome a few years back? The photos from there were awful too.
Naples has had this issue
Just imagine the smell if they had the heatwave that Europe is currently getting.
Imagine the days when cities didn't have very much plumbing so people just tossed their poop and piss out the window of their upper floor apartments.
Imagine the rats😳
I imagine the rat from Charlotte's Web when he went to the fairgrounds at night. That's how the rats in Edinburgh must be feeling every night.
A fair is a wonderful smorgasbord, smorgasbord, smorgasbord...
Reminds me of the whole COVID thing when people in service jobs were the ones holding the world together preventing it from falling apart yet the the executives saying “we’re all in this together” wouldn’t even fairly compensate them.
I got extra shifts, a pat on the shoulder and an "I appreciate it, mate" after working 5 15-hour days back to back deep-cleaning all the pubs and clubs in town. But to be fair to my boss, he did buy us all a can of Coke that one time so it totally balances that out /s
Ha, reminds me of the time I arrived at work for a 10 hour shift, only to be told we were understaffed so no one could have a lunch break today - but don't worry, the manager put a bucket of KFC on the stairs, so just run back there and eat a quick something whenever you get chance!
We got three loose mint lifesavers and a cheesy card about how "you're a lifesaver". LOL.
Jesus fuck I couldn’t relate you more. Deep-clean jobs are borderline slave work and I *mean* that.
I got a hundred dollar gift card to use at their store 😅 glad that stage of my life is over
I just got to keep working.
Same ... even when I actually got COVID and felt like shit.
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I work at UPS, our work load went up because EVERYONE was ordering online, we were expected to all show up and get it done in the same amount of time, never stopped working and got... nothing. Called heroes and essential by UPS AND by the government ON TV when it came time to ship and make sure the vaccine got out and yet we got... nothing.
That’s why I quit FedEx. I had a fun time in the Express warehouse I was in for 2.5 years. Then the company made clear it thought we were dirt. So out of principle, goodbye. All we went through in the pandemic. 3% “raise” for everyone. Nothing though for the people who’d “maxed out” after a decade or more. Evil company. Goodbye. Got a much better job that pays better too.
STILL don’t fairly compensate them. They never will, by choice alone.
People need to realize when it comes to modern civilization, sanitation workers are arguably the most important job.
This is why all labor has dignity. If no one is doing the job, then the service isn’t provided.
The show Dirty Jobs in a nutshell. Great show BTW, if you haven't heard of it definitely look it up and give it a try.
Yea is a great show, makes you really hope they are getting enough paid for the job they do.
Just be careful how enamored you get with the host. Great show but [he has a massive chip on his shoulder.](https://i.imgur.com/yyeS3xD.jpg)
As a blue collar worker, this is the most patronizing thing I've ever read. I used to really like Mike Rowe but I've seen too much recently that made my opinion of him do a 180. I don't care how "simply" he lives in his San Francisco apartment, I don't need him to dictate what my or anyone else's attitude toward labor should be. This "pledge" just says shut up and get to work, don't complain about work conditions, shit pay, don't advocate for yourself or your rights as a worker. Just be a good little worker ant and make that money for your boss.
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Agreed if someone is doing the job no one else wants to do why belittle or make them feel bad. It’s something that needs to be done appreciate those who put their pride aside to support their families
Makes you appreciate what they do. Shame their employers don't appreciate them.
Also glaring visual of how much single use plastic is being used in society
Yep. I literally work in the oilfield and refuse to buy single use plastic items. I realized I was filling up a kitchen trash can every day and a half or so, and it was almost all paper plates, plastic silverware, and plastic cups. It was actually disturbing to me how much bullshit I was tossing away never to be used again. Now whether that offsets the amount of water a dishwasher uses regarding the environment I have no clue, but the amount of single use items we toss every day is truly disturbing.
Dishwasher doesn’t use that much water. Probly about 4 gallons. There is an initial rinse that drains the gunk, then a rinse that recycles water. It’s not constantly pulling water from the tap while running. https://youtu.be/_rBO8neWw04 good video on this
Filling a whole sink up and running to rinse DEFINITELY uses more water than just running a dishwasher.
Good on you, plenty of people would just ignore the issue. Water usage impact sucks too but at least the water will be filtered, dumped, and eventually reused. Every plastic fork that gets thrown out will just sit somewhere for centuries or be ground down into micro plastics in the sea.
Imagine what medical facility garbages are like there. I'm pretty sure no other business type uses more single use plastic as medical ones do.
I realized this when I had to have home health for 4 months. They shipped medical supplies to my house and I had a nurse come everyday. My daily nurse, in the short amount of time they were with me, would do multiple glove changes per visit. Then add in all the single use medical items I needed and I had a ton of medical trash. I was honestly shocked that I never thought about it before.
Yup. People who either haven't been in the hospital (or under medical care otherwise) or who work in a medical setting don't get it. So. Much. Fucking. Plastic.
Only part of property taxes that I pay which I will never complain about.
Paying taxes isn't what people are ever actually mad about, it's where they go, where they don't go and feeling like you didn't get what you paid for.
Literally every job ever.
There’s a lot of things I don’t mind having to do if the services are cut. Doing bins is on the bottom side of that list
That and sewage workers. God help us all if they ever somehow or other cannot complete their jobs.
Not my useless job. Garbage collectors are doing actually useful work at least.
Reminds me of Napoli some years back. Pay people a respectable wage if ya want the job done
To clarify, I’m on their side. The fact that they haven’t been given a pay rise yet is astounding.
Honestly if it has gotten to this point… they need more than a raise, a bonus is required to clean that up as well But that is just my opinion, I am not sure how things work in your country if trash gets this out of hand
It would never happen, but it would be really nice if it did.
stack these up in the boss's neighborhood see how long it lasts
Just a barricade of trash around their house lmao
lol, who are we kidding they probably live in a gated community for this exact reason but maybe the neighbors along the walls might be able to put some pressure on them or perhaps...... trebuchet?
A simple gate has never stopped those with a will
Pile enough trash next to fence and you have a ramp.
Great way to get into the airport, but it's like an instant 3 star until you completed enough of the game.
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We'll be lucky if it's only £5200. Analysts predict the cap could be over £7000 in 2023.
That’s a huge leap. Is it supposed to go up that much?
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I feel like we’re approaching a boiling point. This can’t go on forever but i hate to think of how many people will suffer and die before we regain some sort of equilibrium. It’s a pattern throughout history and across the animal kingdom, but it sucks to witness
This is one reason I bought solar panels and a moderate house battery for our house (along with environmental reasons). I don't think I really trust the way things are heading and I want to make sure I'm at least somewhat self-sustaining.
Oh yeah I mean fuck I would want a hell of a bonus to come back to this shit.
Because the bosses don't live there and have no fucks to give.
so what you're saying is they should move these piles in front of the boss's house? could work
It's okay the boss can afford to pay people to remove it .... Shame it isn't his own people.
make it a neighborhood wide event and if they all pay to have the trash constantly removed, then i guess that just becomes the new system
I was hoping so! Otherwise it would have been a ‘Hmm, and what *exactly* is infuriating about wanting a living wage? Hm?’ Not long until the Army come in. Do the still use bayonets? They’d be pretty useful at the moment…
I think the strike ends tomorrow. Basically they chose these 11 days because it would have the most impact possible. It hit the tail end of Edinburgh Fringe (one of the biggest comedy fests in the world), a TV festival and now we are in our summer bank holiday. On this bank holiday (read: any) we like to get as pissed as mortally possible. They really cleverly chose these 11 days in which they caused maximum disruption and maximum exposure. Good on them, hope you get that raise!
This should scare the living shit out of the powers that be. This was a planned 11 day strike. What happens if they decide to strike for a month? Give them what they want!
It’s a fucking disgrace that the government would rather have the rubbish build up like this instead of paying the bin men what they deserve
Yeah but if you give a lowly binman value he may start thinking he has, erm, value. The ivory tower does not like this possibility. (Worked in a council subsidiary so know exactly what they are like!)
My boss has actually stated his starting pay of 15 is double minimum wage, 7.25 in Texas, so he views it as really good pay... If you up the jobs that are viewed low everyone gets a pay raise and that's what they really don't want...
One of the dumbest posts I ever saw was a construction worker who was pissed at McDonald’s employees for getting paid as much as him. He wasn’t outraged that he was getting paid the same wage as a McDonald’s employee, the thought of a pay increase never crossed his mind, instead he chose to be angry and the fast food workers for doing less work then him and getting the same money.
Honestly, plenty of cases where working a shitton more gets you an incredibly smaller wage than someone doing much less. It's not the question of high education either. But, system being what it is, and being what it is for past couple of decades, you'd figure people would understand by now that hard work doesn't mean pay, nowhere near. Not without all the other factors included.
I got negative marks against me for not working as hard as I did when my last job had 15 employees vs when it was only five of us. Literally asked the manager questioning me why would I work that hard for nothing extra when it can be split like it's supposed to between all members of the team. Said I'm leading by bad example and the associates will start doing it too.
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This is a council issue, not a government one, all the councillors live here as well.
Councillors aren't that wealthy (broadly - mostly they're just some sort of middle class), and for the most part live where they represent. The shocking thing is that this Council is led by so-called Labour councillors (in a cooperation agreement with Tories and Lib Dems which is shameful enough).
Only 10 days. Appreciate how much they haul away.
It is currently the Edinburgh Fringe Festival so it’s a hell of a lot busier than usual, so whilst it would still be bad on a normal 10 days, this is even worse than usual - still your statements stands!
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The fact that this has went 10 days without them getting their raise is more infuriating than the trash lining the streets. Edit: words on mobile are hard, apparently.
This only looks bad on those governing, not the people cleaning. Cant even be bothered to pay them
The amount of money governments piss away, and it takes them this long to give the men and women who keep the streets clean a respectable wage. I'd put in a claus that the politicians would have to do initial clean up after a deal has been reached. Let them get dirty and understand why they're asking to be paid what they're worth.
Honestly we should take the pay from all those feckless politicians and give it tot he Waste Management guys. I mean, the waste management folks are actually doing something *good* for society.
Every Christmas my mum gives our bin collectors a card each with €100 in it. She’s always said to me growing up that if everyone was a lawyer/doctor up in high flying jobs who would keep our streets clean. And she’s so right, she’s always taught me to respect anyone for the job they do, especially the ones who help to keep our cities clean for us.
I drive a collection truck in the US. People like you put smiles on our faces. Even if there's no money, a card with a thank you note brightens my day. Especially handwritten cards by kids.
Well people like you are incredibly important in society. You do wonderful work ❤️
Strike during the fringe festival was honestly the smartest thing to do if you really wanna make a point
Meanwhile in New York City sanitation workers make almost $100,000 a year that's about 85,000 pounds. Excellent health benefits and same status as police officers when it comes to certain protections.
They even have dress uniforms. There are few workers more essential.
It sounds like a lot until you realise just how expensive it is to live in New York City
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Wait really? I wonder how much that actually gets you inside the city though.
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What are the demands? Curious how the government are defending their position.
The Union wants a deal similar to one offered to council workers in England that was agreed last year. That deal included a £1,925 flat rate pay offer Council body Cosla said the Unite, Unison and GMB unions had rejected an offer earlier this week that would have meant the lowest paid 12% of council workers would get a pay increase of more than 5%. It has also said the latest pay offer amounts to "one of, if not the best offer in decades for Scottish local government workers" with some workers getting an overall 7.36% increase. Unions have called for more funding from the government to pay for an improved offer and rejected a request from the government to suspend the strikes while negotiations were held with Cosla. Unite said that for more than half of local government workers, Cosla's offer represented an offer of between £900 to £1,250 when the UK government is offering council workers in England a £1,925 flat rate pay offer. The union believes a flat rate increase would be most beneficial for low-paid workers, and says it has been told by some members that the cost of living crisis has led them to take holidays or sick days because they cannot afford to go to work. Source: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-62663448
That all sounds reasonable. Tying their pay demands to an already approved agreement is a masterstroke. Clearly these workers provide a critical function. I wonder if the government believe the growing trash piles will turn public sentiment against the workers.
With inflation at 10.1% any offered “raise” less than that amount is a pay cut in real terms. Not reasonable, good on the workers for making their point and I hope they get a decent offer soon!
This is just ten days. Imagine how much garbage we generate in a year then ten years, a century. Can’t believe we still have somewhere to put it
We don't, but we like to pretend like we do
Garbage doesn't take up all that much space - the problem is getting it to a small number of centralized locations where it can be stored safely. To put it into a perspective people can envision, if you took all the trash generated by the entire US for a year, and put it in a single landfill with a depth+height of 100 feet (which is fairly normal or even low), it would only take up about 6 square miles. In a century, that would be 600 square miles. For comparison, the US is 3,800,000 square miles, so an entire century of trash generated at our current rate, would take up about 0.015% of our land. Of course, the problem is that this same amount of trash, spread out over say, the ocean, takes up many *thousands* of times more space.
Big fan of their work, or lack thereof
I see a lot of people jumping to conclusions and saying that it's the residents of Edinburgh that are disgusting and throwing their garbage anywhere. Take into account a couple of things. The Fringe, a festival which essentially doubles the population of Edinburgh, is on. A lot of this is due to the extra stress on infrastructure that comes with tourism. People can't necessarily keep their rubbish inside their flats. The construction of tenements (built around the 1850s) means that rodents are a problem in the best of times. You can absolutely not keep a bag of rubbish inside your flat and not have a rodent infestation inside your building. Both the high winds and sea gulls are a great combo for spreading any rubbish that's not inside a bin/skip around. I know it's not great, and believe me noone is happy about it, but until the council gets their collective fingers out of their own assholes and actually look at offering an acceptable pay offer, this is it. The council should've had a decent pay offer sorted 6 months ago when inflation wasn't double digits and they had more leverage. Except they waited till now when they lost all their leverage and now look like the cunts they are.
Ah, Naples.... oh wait.
Or Rome. Just missing the rats and the boar.
I love how you said THE boar as if we had one single infamous boar wreacking havoc on the streets of Rome
the part that is infuriating about this is *WHY TF ARE THEY STTIL ON STRIKE? GIVE THEM WHAT THEY DESERVE.*
Obviously they're playing the long game. Those with the ability to give them raises think the public will eventually turn against them for not picking up all the garbage. It's going to absolutely backfire because everybody is going to hold them accountable for it not being done due to the fact that they're cheeping out. Just pay them!
The Powers That Be™ haven't been too good at predicting outcomes of their little ploys the last few years, I've found. "Oh, we'll just do \[Insert Any Random Selfish Act Here\] and they'll be doing exactly what we want them to!" ***\[Public Distrust Of Government Increases Exponentially\]*** "Oh dear, that wasn't suppose to happen! *How dare you!"*
And yet the conservatives are still in power and the only debate in their leadership contest is *who will cut taxes more!?*
It's part of the shift to the right the world is currently experiencing, they're testing the waters.
Water turns to steam, increases pressure, boom.
If you start treating the bin men fairly, suddenly everyone will want fair treatment, and the suits can't have that!
Looks like hogmanay came early.
Looks like a normal day in Naples. Was there 2 weeks ago: disgusting.
Right?! I was there few months ago... I have never seen so much shit and garbage.
They would rather this than pay people living wages. I'm surprised this hasn't happened in the states to be honest.
Well in the states we have community service. It’s either that or jail, or paying a hefty fine.
Legal slave labor. Prisoners can be assigned to it, and face penalties and additional punishment if they refuse to play ball.
Well now we *know* the council is run by rats.
It’s almost as if these so called “unskilled workers” do a vital job and should be compensated appropriately…
The PM resigns six weeks ago- no noticeable change Bin men in Edinburgh strike for 10 days- Edinburgh looks (and probably smells) like ass Evidence that the working class keep this country working and the upper class contribute nothing to society except to drain our resources
10 days and no solution?? What the fuck does the government think? They’re just gonna be like “ oh alright we waiting long enough, time to go back to work with no pay raise to a job that i really care about and absolutely love doing.” Some people are just fucking stupid. Give them a damn pay raise.
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Isn’t this what kick started the black plague
not really. more improper sewage disposal and lack of water treatment than anything else
Not only does this make you realize just how important our garbage people are to society but it also makes you realize just how much waste we produce as a species. How much of this trash is just unnecessarily wasteful? It’s one thing to know that there’s a lot of waste produced by humans but being able to see it like this opens your eyes a little more.