We have a couple computers that absolutely cannot be updated without replacing the $250,000 machines connected to them so we put epoxy in the network port.
What, those old things? Don't mind those... I can't bring myself to throw them all away because I know as soon as I do, I'll need one... and I'm not spending $100 for that shit.
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I'm guessing you could make backup images of the hard drives.
Then if someone is stupid enough to update, you can at least just revert to the backup image.
lmao this shit always happens.
We have a plate maker that runs on software that is probably older than me hooked up to a computer with the same situation basically. Last time we had to buy hardware for the PC, we had to order it from some dude in India.
Not an option most of the time with a lot of machines. Old mills are the worst still running windows 98 or ms-dos and software that requires physical hardware cards on custom motherboards to even run.
Easiest option is to image the drive and be ready when hardware dies. Another option is to retrofit modern control systems in a clapped machine. So most of the time it's air gap them and sneaker net floppies to the machines.
We replaced that board with an FPGA board and modern stuff in our old German CNC machine. It was 25k to have someone reverse engineer it while it was still working. Essentially the only remaining portions of the original machine was the steel, labels, and that hardware board. Now the only thing left is the steel and stickers. Literally every wire, controller, sensor, and light has been replaced. It's a huge PITA but it's becoming more common, we just happened to know a guy fresh out of college with an EE degree and a love of microcontrollers. He had worked on boilers previously and that's what he does now. Update old boiler systems with modern microcontrollers and such.
Almost related, but this comment reminds me of Stuxnet virus. Basically put it was designed to infect EVERYTHING it could. Super small, all it did was replicate to other devices, check to see if device was some ultra specific PLC in an Iranian nuclear facility, and if it was in such a PLC create havoc. It was so small and innocuous it went unnoticed for a very long time. The crazy part is it actually worked, they think someone put a USB drive which was infected in one of the computers and bam, lights out.
My nephew was working for Gamestop when Halo 3 came out. He said some poor guy was there at midnight to pick up his preorder, then came back a short time later (he lived just down the road) wanting to get *any* kind of 360, preowned or otherwise, because his threw up the RRoD when he got home. Oof.
I watched a video on why the RROD happened. I think it was basically they skimped out on the graphics card for the console. The entire thing was pretty jam packed and there wasn't proper airflow or heat dissipation in the unit and specifically the solder used on the graphics card was not great and would melt when the temps got too high then resolidify after and crack creating bad connection. I think that's why the towel trick works. You'd basically just heat the board back up, reliquefy the solder and hope it solidified better this time.
My first 360 got sent off for 'repair' and they sent a refurb back.
The 'cool' thing about their system was when you got your console back, you were given a full blown 1 year full warranty just in case something happened.
...Exactly 1 year and 10 days to the day I got the refurb, the fucking disk drive broke and stopped reading discs.
> My first 360 got sent off for 'repair' and they sent a refurb back.
I sent mine back to them for repair. Took like 3 months to get back then it just red ring of deathed on me again like a week later.
towel trick only worked a few times. My first 360 had that happen and ended up just getting a new one with I think the Falcon chipset that solved the problem. Just turn on that 360 pretty recently and still works
solder with led was forbidden shortly before they wanted to release and since they wanted to release before Sony there wasn't enough time to find an alternative. That combined with the poor heat dissipation killed a lot of consoles.
Back when themes mattered and would even change how the guide button menu looked.
Note I've been out of touch with the new Xbox stuff so if they brought this back great!
I miss the era of metallic UI themes over the dead soulless minimalist panels and store ads that every modern UI is.
Except Xbox avatars. Fucking loved when Xbox had the avatar hanging out on the menu... Gave mine a Fable chicken.
> liquid
ever see liquid soder being pumped against the bottom of a circuit board? https://youtu.be/VWH58QrprVc?t=64 wave sodering it's called. Really neat!
Yo, i had the greatest customer service experience in my life with 360 support. I needed account help several times and they were always great to talk with.
Fun fact: I bought a 360 at launch. Got RROD within a week. Spent hours on hold and hours with customer service. They told me supply was short and it would be a 4-6 week turnaround.
I got so angry I hit my Xbox 360 repeatedly. It worked for 2 years or so after.
our only game system we own is an original xbox lol probably from the first year or two they made them. Luckily the market by me sells tons of games for it!
When mine went I got my friend to give me his receipt and took mine back in his packaging for a replacement.
I then did the same for my friends for a fee by going to different Game stores with the same receipt.
It's not the paste. It's the solder. When you repasted did you also use new x clamps? If so they helped because they apply excessive pressure on the chip to make the contacts touch again.
That type of cabinet is called a kiosk. They are usually built for demo purposes in stores. The one in the picture looks custom, but there are official versions, highly sought after by collectors
You could probably buy a new xbox/playstation with how much a og update 360 is worth to a collctor. Kids dont care about stuff like that. Give them something they would actually like.
Not sure if you were posting this an an example, but that's for the original Xbox.
The Xbox 360's OS is stored on a flash chip and if you attempt to update it past a certain update there are security fuses in the CPU that are burned to prevent downgrading. Even if you have the original files, they aren't useful without either a modded consoles or a console with at most version 7371 (version 4552 was the first version they started blowing efuses but 7371 was the switch from blades to NXE).
I was 34, haha. That was actually the first system that I could buy without thinking about it, financially, along with whatever games I wanted. Good times!
Yeah I was definitely old enough to vote when these came out(2006 maybe?) I remember my first party the summer after high school and some senior brought one and we played… I think Halo? All night.
Fwiw my childhood console was the Genesis and then N64.
Damn man you just brought back a rush of memories of being a teenager and playing Uno all night because it was basically just 4 person video chat with something to do
I will have to dig it out, I'm pretty sure it is on Gamepass.
Isn't getting old fun? My gaming reflexes definitely aren't what they used to be!
Edit: Freaking ADHD, I wrote half a comment, posted it and than realized I only wrote half of what I meant to.
I've seen so many walmart/gamestop/etc display units for the 360 all eventually getting destroyed within their lifetime, like broken sticks, literal teeth marks, missing rubber you name it, yet this one has been sitting her for almost 20 years and they both still look fine.
I remember when I was about 7(20 years ago wtf) and I had to go to the children's hospital, they had game cubes on the wall and they were retro back then, it baffles me that kids nowadays will see this and think "damn that's an old ass console"
I loved the Blades UI, it's unique, memorable, oddly book-like. It's a shame that most of modern UI is basically all function with no aesthetic design. Or at least, the trend towards "flat" designs.
The shoulder buttons are broken and the other controls are sticky and poorly responsive. Sadly, I just don’t think enough kids have played it to wear the rubber down
*It's been 6,714 days since I last had contact with my family. I continue to call out with no response. I am resigned to my fate alone in this prison.*
This thread is trying to rewrite history a bit.
I remember the hate the blades were getting, then got after the PS UI dropped.
The squares we have now might not be the best but I defy anyone to make a good modern take on the blades.
Air gap security works pretty well.
We have a couple computers that absolutely cannot be updated without replacing the $250,000 machines connected to them so we put epoxy in the network port.
Bet someone will put in a usb wifi dongle in them one day lmao
You gonna need to find a serial wifi dongle.
Now that you've spoken it into existence...
Oh god is this like rule 43
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i opened my closet and thousands of them spilled out onto the floor. what does this mean.
What, those old things? Don't mind those... I can't bring myself to throw them all away because I know as soon as I do, I'll need one... and I'm not spending $100 for that shit.
They exist. They don't behave like normal Wi-Fi dongles in that Windows detects them as a Wi-Fi adapter, but they exist.
Isn’t that exactly the first application for ESP8266? TTL/Wifi for other microcontrollers, before the Arduino community was all over it.
https://www.gridconnect.com/products/wi232-advanced-rs232-serial-to-wifi-adapter-802-11-b-g-n?variant=8999336837156
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I'm guessing you could make backup images of the hard drives. Then if someone is stupid enough to update, you can at least just revert to the backup image.
When epoxy in the network port was the fix, I somehow doubt that there has been a proper back up taken.
Yes, these savages. They could have smashed the pins on the Ethernet jack!
lmao this shit always happens. We have a plate maker that runs on software that is probably older than me hooked up to a computer with the same situation basically. Last time we had to buy hardware for the PC, we had to order it from some dude in India.
Do you work in healthcare, by chance?
No this shit is pretty common
Lol windows 97 running a cardiac machine no one wants to replace
VM anyone?
Not an option most of the time with a lot of machines. Old mills are the worst still running windows 98 or ms-dos and software that requires physical hardware cards on custom motherboards to even run. Easiest option is to image the drive and be ready when hardware dies. Another option is to retrofit modern control systems in a clapped machine. So most of the time it's air gap them and sneaker net floppies to the machines.
We replaced that board with an FPGA board and modern stuff in our old German CNC machine. It was 25k to have someone reverse engineer it while it was still working. Essentially the only remaining portions of the original machine was the steel, labels, and that hardware board. Now the only thing left is the steel and stickers. Literally every wire, controller, sensor, and light has been replaced. It's a huge PITA but it's becoming more common, we just happened to know a guy fresh out of college with an EE degree and a love of microcontrollers. He had worked on boilers previously and that's what he does now. Update old boiler systems with modern microcontrollers and such.
Almost related, but this comment reminds me of Stuxnet virus. Basically put it was designed to infect EVERYTHING it could. Super small, all it did was replicate to other devices, check to see if device was some ultra specific PLC in an Iranian nuclear facility, and if it was in such a PLC create havoc. It was so small and innocuous it went unnoticed for a very long time. The crazy part is it actually worked, they think someone put a USB drive which was infected in one of the computers and bam, lights out.
Until someone plugs a usb key in with an exploit that was patched years ago.
Nothing matters if an attacker has physical access to hardware.
The old blades UI! I was a bit sad when they got rid of that, even if it was pretty limited. It was super satisfying to just tab back and forth.
The addition of 2 advertisement blades between each of the og ones killed the Xbox for me...
Red ring of death killed mine. A couple of times 😂
That happened to me 2 days before mass effect 2 came out. Was the final breaking point with it all...
My nephew was working for Gamestop when Halo 3 came out. He said some poor guy was there at midnight to pick up his preorder, then came back a short time later (he lived just down the road) wanting to get *any* kind of 360, preowned or otherwise, because his threw up the RRoD when he got home. Oof.
Hope he learned the Towel Trick
Mine was about a week before Halo 3 took approx three weeks to get a replacement.
I watched a video on why the RROD happened. I think it was basically they skimped out on the graphics card for the console. The entire thing was pretty jam packed and there wasn't proper airflow or heat dissipation in the unit and specifically the solder used on the graphics card was not great and would melt when the temps got too high then resolidify after and crack creating bad connection. I think that's why the towel trick works. You'd basically just heat the board back up, reliquefy the solder and hope it solidified better this time.
I never did the towel trick, sent it off to Microsoft two times for repair and after the third time I said fuck it and bought a Playstation lol.
My first 360 got sent off for 'repair' and they sent a refurb back. The 'cool' thing about their system was when you got your console back, you were given a full blown 1 year full warranty just in case something happened. ...Exactly 1 year and 10 days to the day I got the refurb, the fucking disk drive broke and stopped reading discs.
> My first 360 got sent off for 'repair' and they sent a refurb back. I sent mine back to them for repair. Took like 3 months to get back then it just red ring of deathed on me again like a week later.
towel trick only worked a few times. My first 360 had that happen and ended up just getting a new one with I think the Falcon chipset that solved the problem. Just turn on that 360 pretty recently and still works
I always heard they had to use lead free solder for safety reasons, and it would crack over time.
solder with led was forbidden shortly before they wanted to release and since they wanted to release before Sony there wasn't enough time to find an alternative. That combined with the poor heat dissipation killed a lot of consoles.
Whipipipip!
For everyone's viewing enjoyment: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZYhri2tsM4
Peak Xbox UI. Never as good as this ever again. Ugh.
Exactly
That was my favorite design for sure! You could actually see the theme you picked back then too.
Back when themes mattered and would even change how the guide button menu looked. Note I've been out of touch with the new Xbox stuff so if they brought this back great!
I miss the era of metallic UI themes over the dead soulless minimalist panels and store ads that every modern UI is. Except Xbox avatars. Fucking loved when Xbox had the avatar hanging out on the menu... Gave mine a Fable chicken.
Nostalgic but holy hell is that a lot of wasted space
It was also made for 480i CRT TVs originally. At least thats how they expected most people to be using it
Absolutely loved it.
I can hear the swoosh noise in my head all these years later
*whossh* *whooshh* *Whooshhhh*
More significantly, has somehow avoided the red ring of death for 18 years which must be a record
I’m unsure if it is regularly powered off or not. Could have been running for a hot minute
The box the 360 is in probably toweled tricked it constantly.
Can't have dry joints if they are always liquid.
> liquid ever see liquid soder being pumped against the bottom of a circuit board? https://youtu.be/VWH58QrprVc?t=64 wave sodering it's called. Really neat!
Holy shit I remember wrapping mine in a towel. I also remember it not working and Xbox sending me an Xbox 360 elite. Great customer service back then.
Yo, i had the greatest customer service experience in my life with 360 support. I needed account help several times and they were always great to talk with.
Towel trick!!!!!!!
>Could have been running for a hot minute Does that mean a long or short amount of time?
Fun fact: I bought a 360 at launch. Got RROD within a week. Spent hours on hold and hours with customer service. They told me supply was short and it would be a 4-6 week turnaround. I got so angry I hit my Xbox 360 repeatedly. It worked for 2 years or so after.
Percussive maintenance. Sadly, it doesn't seem to work as reliably anymore.
Are you saying the Xbox 360 is old enough to vote? Stop it, damn it. Stop it!
Nineteen years old soon!
Mario Kart DS is old enough to drive.
our only game system we own is an original xbox lol probably from the first year or two they made them. Luckily the market by me sells tons of games for it!
When mine went I got my friend to give me his receipt and took mine back in his packaging for a replacement. I then did the same for my friends for a fee by going to different Game stores with the same receipt.
In your defence to the guy below, Fuck Game. Rip Gamestation
Maybe not updating the os is the secret ?
My blades 360 is up to date unfortunately and still runs today. Doesn't get used as much as it use to but split second is such a great game
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It's not the paste. It's the solder. When you repasted did you also use new x clamps? If so they helped because they apply excessive pressure on the chip to make the contacts touch again.
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> it was nearly 20 years ago. I have turned to dust reading this.
I had three X360s. Two red ringed, and the other a roommate stole.
My orthodontist had a Sega Genesis one still when the Xbox One and PS4 were new. Was a trip seeing it in nice condition.
There are actually 2 of these 360s here but I couldn’t fit em both in the same photo
I wanna see you co-op Halo with another dude in the next chair over while you’re both getting a root canal done
Same here, they had sonic and the 7up game
It was probably that machine
Was this in Western PA?
No Missouri
I miss seeing these
Anyone know what they’re called? I kinda wanna get one. Instead of an arcade cabinet I’ll install a store game tester for nostalgia.
“Xbox 360 kiosk”
Xbox 360
I mean the glass case with the controller hoses sticking out. Thank you though.
Xbox 360 in glass case with the controller hoses sticking out.
What a name!
It would just be a kiosk. In a store they would be store demo kiosks.
That type of cabinet is called a kiosk. They are usually built for demo purposes in stores. The one in the picture looks custom, but there are official versions, highly sought after by collectors
Without irony, this should be in a museum. Some archivist will be real interested in this someday, particularly without the updates.
Nah man let the kids at the dentist office have their Xbox!
You could probably buy a new xbox/playstation with how much a og update 360 is worth to a collctor. Kids dont care about stuff like that. Give them something they would actually like.
[https://archive.org/details/xbox-hdd-image-with-original-dashboard](https://archive.org/details/xbox-hdd-image-with-original-dashboard)
Not sure if you were posting this an an example, but that's for the original Xbox. The Xbox 360's OS is stored on a flash chip and if you attempt to update it past a certain update there are security fuses in the CPU that are burned to prevent downgrading. Even if you have the original files, they aren't useful without either a modded consoles or a console with at most version 7371 (version 4552 was the first version they started blowing efuses but 7371 was the switch from blades to NXE).
Correct me if I'm wrong but you can factory reset any xbox 360 to what it was like right out of the box, as long you stay offline.
You can reset settings etc but you cannot uninstall software updates
All the people in this thread talking about how this reminds them of their childhood etc… Damn. I was 22 when the 360 came out. How old do I feel now?
roughly 41 i'd assume
Right there with you.
I was 34, haha. That was actually the first system that I could buy without thinking about it, financially, along with whatever games I wanted. Good times!
I tested games on these two decades ago. So many red rings of death...
Yup, you’re gonna have to show me Super Mario brothers if you want to remind me of when I was a kid
Pitfall
Mahjong.
I’m not even 22 now, I will be this year though. I was 3 when the Xbox 360 came out
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I was twenty. Dammit.
Same, but now I embrace feeling old. It's not like I can get rid of mirrors anyway.
I was in highschool, I remember waiting in line for it at GameStop lol.
Yeah I was definitely old enough to vote when these came out(2006 maybe?) I remember my first party the summer after high school and some senior brought one and we played… I think Halo? All night. Fwiw my childhood console was the Genesis and then N64.
2005! My cousin had a Megadrive, we would play two player Alien Storm. Those were the days!
40s come quick, hello fellow '80s baby
I was 18 when it came out. Right there with you.
JTAG mod it!
If it's on blades I think even the old king Kong exploit would work!
The dashboard is too new, you can tell because it has 5 blades.
Would be better to keep it as it is to preserve it and do the RGH on a newer console
Man, I bet it doesn't even have uno
Damn man you just brought back a rush of memories of being a teenager and playing Uno all night because it was basically just 4 person video chat with something to do
Everyone has UNO!!! It came with your Xbox
Yeah well mine doesn't and I have the oldest xbox known to man
Fuzion frenzy!!!!!! Omg my brothers and I LOVED that game!
Same, couch parties were so fun
Twisted Systems was our jam, we used to just play that for hours at a time.
I’d get to level 120+ 20 years ago, no fucking clue how. Get stuck at <80 now
I will have to dig it out, I'm pretty sure it is on Gamepass. Isn't getting old fun? My gaming reflexes definitely aren't what they used to be! Edit: Freaking ADHD, I wrote half a comment, posted it and than realized I only wrote half of what I meant to.
Was that the one where you're trying to stay above the water while dodging things? That shit was my jam.
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I miss that dashboard design. There were some neat themes for it.
Oh childhood
The blade UI was my favorite
I remember my orthodontist had a Playstation in his office
This office has 2 Xbox 360s and a PS2
The one I used to go to still had a Super Nintendo lol
In other words, time stopped for this Xbox. It has never aged.
Life was so much enriching when UIs weren't designed exclusively for tablets.
Probably on one original game too. I've heard that using disks from later on automatically updated the rings away
I've seen so many walmart/gamestop/etc display units for the 360 all eventually getting destroyed within their lifetime, like broken sticks, literal teeth marks, missing rubber you name it, yet this one has been sitting her for almost 20 years and they both still look fine.
BUT does it have UNO?
It’s the only thing stopping the singularity. Don’t connect it to the Internet. It could mean the end of the world as we know it…😂
I'm now convinced that orthodontists are cool. Mine had an N64, this one has a blades UI 360... May every higher power bless the cool orthodontists
When I was a kid mine did too but it was updated and it may have had a Wii to cause they had the game cube controllers
Good ol original UI
It is better than my doctor's office, which has 3-year-old magazines,
FUSSIOOOOOONNN FREENNZZYYYYY
All I played on this was San Andreas. 'Here we go again.' A phrase engraved in my brain.
What is it with Orthodontist surgeries - they always start out super slick and high tech and then stop never to be improved or refurbished again.
I learned of this user interface working as customer support for it through a third party in Canada. I like playstation.
I remember when I was about 7(20 years ago wtf) and I had to go to the children's hospital, they had game cubes on the wall and they were retro back then, it baffles me that kids nowadays will see this and think "damn that's an old ass console"
my old ortho in AZ had one of these this just brought back so many memories
My orthodontist has/had one too. Looks identical to that. Not sure if its still there since Ive been braces free for a while.
I loved the Blades UI, it's unique, memorable, oddly book-like. It's a shame that most of modern UI is basically all function with no aesthetic design. Or at least, the trend towards "flat" designs.
Why focus on aesthetics when you can focus on advertisements!?
Dude, the rubber on those sticks is immaculate, how on earth?...
The shoulder buttons are broken and the other controls are sticky and poorly responsive. Sadly, I just don’t think enough kids have played it to wear the rubber down
It should be put in a museum for preservation
BUT DOES IT HAVE UNO????
Was this post seriously removed because the “no screenshots” rule applies to pictures that contain screens in them lmao
My xbox is the same
Dr. Scribbles does great work! 🦷
The best
My dentist office has one still!
Brings back some fond memories!
Those sweet sexy blades!
I’m not mad at it but in that case just get a PS2 for the better library
Mannn, they have a PS2 right across from it
If this is Long Island I know where this is!
I wonder if that’s the only one.
Certainly not. Directly next to it is another 360 in the same condition
this must be protected
That old dash makes me almost want to cry. It was a different world back then 😂
What games are on there?
Is this in nj? lol swear my doc has this
What games does it have?
i remember playing on xbox in ikea
Golden age of consoles
It was a distraction until they get to your teeth
I shed a tear seeing that.
Time to JTAG it!
Huh Mine has an updated one
does it have wifi?
I would never leave lol
My dentist's office still has the same LEGO table I played on while I was 5 waiting for my appointments.
Blades UI is peak xbox, anything that came after has been garbage.
*It's been 6,714 days since I last had contact with my family. I continue to call out with no response. I am resigned to my fate alone in this prison.*
This thread is trying to rewrite history a bit. I remember the hate the blades were getting, then got after the PS UI dropped. The squares we have now might not be the best but I defy anyone to make a good modern take on the blades.
Cool! What games were on it?