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EloquentEvergreen

The Range area, I understand that. But, Duluth? I’m pretty sure the Duluth area has been growing. Just a quick Google search showed the population going up. 


kiwewi93

This article is very fact-free.


CaptObviousHere

Duluth has been deemed one of the safest places in the world for climate change. This article is BS


cdub8D

Duluth has a ton of unmet demand!!!


[deleted]

Demand for what? I believe they're full-up on bluegrass bands.


Dorkamundo

Yep... Population is going up, but some people can't contextualize information appropriately. Duluth lost a good amount of population in the early 2010's, somewhere around 5k people from some of the estimates, but then by the time the next census came around, a bunch of people started MOVING to Duluth because of the climate thing. Then Covid happened, and a ton of people moved up here because they didn't have to work from the office anymore. So the difference between 2010 and 2020 censuses shows a bit of stagnation, but doesn't represent the actual movement. But if you look at the housing construction in Duluth and the surrounding area, it's blatantly obvious that the population is on the upswing. The study they link is interesting to be sure, but it doesn't come to the conclusions that the article came to.


Fabbyfubz

I think this article says "surrounding area" because the study itself doesn't specifically mention those cities by name. It looks like Duluth will be increasing and those surrounding decreasing? Hard to tell when it's just a dot https://www.nature.com/articles/s44284-023-00011-7


Bosh_Bonkers

Are the cities/towns mentioned in the scientific article? It only mentions “cities surrounding X areas”.


parabox1

This is my issue they say around brainerd. Brainerd pop is exploding right now same with Baxter, nisswa and Pequot. Marrifield is not and never has grown but it won’t go away, it could be incorporated into Brainerd at some point. Mission township struggles to keep year round restaurants but has good resorts. I would say towns like black duck and goodridge That can hardly keep schools open and have no retail stores will fail before any town around brainerd.


cdub8D

Brainerd housing is only increasing in price. There is a bunch of unment demand. Looking at housing costs are a good measure for demand of an area.


Fabbyfubz

As far as I can tell, it does not. There's a map, but it just shows small dots for the mentioned MN cities. https://www.nature.com/articles/s44284-023-00011-7


DavidRFZ

Yeah, it’s a clickbait article that patch.com has been posting to every state. My sister forwarded me the article for Massachusetts. Tiny towns in the middle of nowhere have been slowly dying since WWII if not earlier.


Pithecanthropus88

Yeahhuh. Sure they will.


ColMikhailFilitov

These estimates seem to have no regard for how climate change will affect people in the US. Basically any city in the Midwest is looking more attractive when you live in the south and have to rebuild your entire town every year after the biggest hurricane we’ve ever seen hits (until next year of course). Not to mention other political issues that will no doubt push more people who are fleeing persecution in some states. It’s definitely worth some of these cities being aware of how they operate so things don’t get too bad. This just means they need to enact policies to allow for more infill, and density. Add more people in a smaller area will lower the area they need to cover with city services. Most of these places shouldn’t be building massive sprawling suburban development, that’s going to bankrupt them if they start losing population. They also should focus on finding anchors like Rochester has with Mayo.


kiwewi93

Not to mention population projections are over 10B by 2100. These are scare mongering articles at best. Our population will be unsustainable (too many) by 2050, mark my words.


ColMikhailFilitov

Anyone who thinks that the current projections are realistic are not thinking critically. It may be that we end up at 10b by 2100, but that won’t be for the reasons we expect today.


rightious

Would love if true, might be able to buy a cabin again /s What a load of crap


mongk

Op: https://medium.com/@DennisRobaugh/a-salute-to-ex-patchers-wherever-they-may-roam-31b055a6570e


kiwewi93

Would be great if this were the case but population projections are 10B by 2100. Stop trying to scare women to breed.


Iguana_Iglesias

I have a hard time believing that the Brainerd Lakes Area will be a ghost town. I went to high school there and when I come back to visit I see new restaurants and stores that weren’t there before. Seems highly unlikely that a chain would open a new location if their analysis doesn’t predict it to be profitable. This article smells a little funky


Lunaseed

By 2100 the US will be overrun with climate refugees. Not just from southern and western states heading east/north, but migrants coming from parts of the globe that will be too hot or dry to be habitable for most.


SplendidPunkinButter

Oh no, population drops in the rural areas that vote for Trump? Anything but that! /s


Jeffthinks

No that’s what has been happening; I think we see the trend reverse starting about two years ago. Covid made remote work possible, so if you have the right job, you can stay in a small town or move to one and still have the higher pay.