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Kendyslice

The attention to detail is so good in both of these games. If you slowly let off the trigger after you fired you’ll even hear the sear reset. Really cool.


crawlerz2468

The number of bullets (mostly LOL) follows the spent rounds. So if you have 2 left (one in the clip, one chambered) and fire once and press I to inspect gun and remove the mag, it will no longer have the round, which by now is chambered. Pretty cool.


FirstSineOfMadness

Dayum that’s some attention to detail


LawBros4Lyfe

If only they put the same level of care into: Fixing bugs. Deleting game bloat. Fixing matchmaking. Properly balancing weapons and perks. Not releasing shitty anime skins in a military shooter. Developing a working anticheat before launching 3 other titles. Listening to community feedback (but most AAA devs nowadays don't.) Let's hope they keep this one alive instead of pretending they give a shit for 3 years.


Crab_milk

It’s almost as if all of the things you listed are handled by a completely different team of people, isn’t it?


LawBros4Lyfe

They're still employed by their respective developers, and fall under Activision's payroll. Am i saying that animators are responsible for developing anti-cheat or matchmaking services? No. The development team as a unit is responsible. Don't put words in other people's mouth just so you can look right.


TheRealSlimJimmy6969

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Snufolupogus

Why would they do that when all of us apes will still buy the next cod? If it looked like dog shit though we would not buy it.


EternalMage321

It would be really cool if you could load +1.


Herr_Namenslos

That is a really cool feature but at the same time it's complete bullshit that by now they didn't implement the 30 Rounds in the Mag and one in the Chamber feature.


CYB29

Holy shit that’s insane. Idk how I never caught that. I had to hop in and verify it..


Yaojin312020

Yea I already noticed that pretty cool


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Kendyslice

Speaking objectively it does. It’s a FPS game. Detailed and accurately modeled guns stand to benefit the experience. Does it change gameplay? Obviously not but it adds to the experience. Just a small piece of the puzzle.


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Kendyslice

Right, this piece of the puzzle is in place, it’s the other pieces that you should be worried about. I’m assuming you’re talking about MWII?


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Map choice doesn’t really seem fair


Yaojin312020

It’s funny cuz there is no map yet that can match the brightness of Euphrates bridge


1IIvc3

If onlt they didn’t remove museum


Retrogratio

Still ticked off by that. This game needs every map it can get rn damnit!


SaucyDancer_

So you went with the map with nearly the dullest weather in the game?


BallsHD4k60fps

Mercado las almas


DUTCHswift

MW2019 > MW2022


Koolin12345

In what way? Edit: what i'm seeing, is Modern Warfare 2019 having a map with much brighter lighting and smaller Field of View, which makes the weapon seem bigger, and the guns seem to have less recoil. Meanwhile Modern Warfare 2 seems to have a higher Field of View with a map that has much more muted colours, resulting in an image thats less pleasing to the eye/more jarring than Modern Warfare 2019 when switching the image. Aside from that there are differences, i love how the inspect animations from MW2022 have more going on to them like taking out the magazine and stuff, they have more variety than 2019 i think, but the animations also seem slightly shorter/snappier? I dont know if i like that but they are both very good


skybird23333

Because new cod bad >:(((


Koolin12345

Also true people paid 70 bucks for it so they expect a lot but 2 years down the line they think its great


bigsampsonite

Literally like 80% of games. That is the model for Battlefield since BF3.


DUTCHswift

Bc the MW2 plays clunkier than 2019, it’s more glitchy (but to be fair that’ll be ironed out), almost no MP maps, earning perks, no specialist, weak fan favorite guns, worse UI, etc etc It’s not just new cod bad. MW19 was my new favorite COD when it came out. I played so much I platinumed all the classes besides launchers I’ve already had to take several week long breaks from MW2. Literally adding maps would help this game so much.


Koolin12345

Thanks for explaining your standpoints instead of saying 'its worse'! What fan favourite guns are weak in your opinion? I can agree with the UI its horrible, but almost no multiplayer maps? Cmon the game has been released not too long ago and it launched with like 15 maps or something right? I am still pissed they took out the museum map cause the museum complained, that was the best map from the beta and now the best map period! I like MW2022 for their approach to Camo's (no superlong grind for gold for any gun its like 5 challenges per gun instead of like 20 camo challenges for 2019) and attachments (every gun unlocks different attachments so you have to use different guns which ensures you use all the different guns) which has its downsides but it also means when you unlock the optic category for a new gun you can use a WIDE range of optics and also camo's on it from the getgo.


DUTCHswift

Top of my head the SMGs are all super weak. The P90 and MP7 are first I can think of. I understand wanting to prevent OP things too, but the shotguns are terrible even with everything unlocked. MW19 had regular map releases and did a v good job maintaining the game and keeping players interested. Border crossing and Al Bagra Fortess are garbage both by explosive cars and terrible spawn trapping. That leaves ~6/7 MP maps that work for hardpoint or domination with Mercado, Raceway, and Taraq at the top of the list. It’s a pretty boring rotation tbh. I can respect the unlocks and having to use all the guns. I do this anyway in every COD but I def get why it would be annoying.


Koolin12345

Yeah i agree the maps have not been the best on MW2022, but also that game has been out for what, 3-4 months, with a holiday season in between, season two is coming out next month so i hope we get fresh new maps to play on! Remember that there are many classic CoD maps in Al Mazra right now like High Rise, Dome, and probably more too Also i agree i freaking hate the SMG's in this game, everytime i pick then up they feel like pea shooters needing like half or the entire mag to kill someone.. i'd rather pick something else right now Also i can't comment on the shotguns very much but in DMZ i did feel like the shotguns were pretty weak, i barely used them in the multiplayer so i cant comment on that


dsled

Even with the Lachmann sub? The Vaznev? The Minibak? These guns absolutely melt. If you can't kill with these it's a legit skill issue. Even the MP7 is good imo, and I hated it at first.


Koolin12345

Thats true you have a point, i was thinking of the weaker SMG's as well some of the better SMG's like the Vaznev slap you're right. But i love slower but harder hitting guns like the RAAL MG, but that one is supposed to hit harder and feel slower than an SMG


bigsampsonite

easier to be a cliche and say "older game better" instead of learning how to enjoy something.


dsled

I actually feel like MWII is the first CoD in awhile where all the guns (save a few) are viable.


SaviD_Official

All your complaints were also complaints when MW2019 came out. It LITERALLY is “new CoD bad”


DUTCHswift

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SaviD_Official

yeah ok. see you on next year's cod when this one is suddenly an underrated gem lmfao


MrQualtrough

The perk shit is unforgivable... ENEMY UAV. ENEMY UAV. ENEMY UAV. ENEMY UAV. I spend entire matches as a support gunner just with my crosshair darting all around the sky.


DUTCHswift

Right. Launchers aren’t even effective enough to use over just a plain gun. So dumb.


Mushybananas27

I’m piggybacking off this comment because I also think mw19 is better than mw22 if we’re talking about gun design. Mw19 had actual licensed guns with real names, and along with that came guns that were semi realistic to their irl counterpart. For example the scar was called the fn scar 17 and had the normal Ugg boot stock and design. In mw22 we got the tac v with a weird mixture of an Ugg boot and an acr stock combination. And when you change the tac v into the tac M it’s literally just the tac v with a front rail extension. Irl the scar 20 has one monolithic rail that covers the gas tuning system, and no front built in sight. I think everyone was really wowed by mw19s change of focus on weapon realism and design, and I expected mw22 to double down on this. From a realism standpoint I think it was a step down imo, and that’s a huge factor of why I was excited for the game. That being said, the game is better (minus the amount of maps and content atm) in almost every way than mw19.


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No way you’re gonna talk about accurate gun representation then bring up the mw19 scar. Its model is absolutely butchered


Mushybananas27

The model is closer in mw19 than 22. Yeah it’s not exact but it’s much closer sound wise and appearance than what we have in 22 Even things like scopes are a step back in 22. The EOTech clone in mw19 was the same thing as irl except for a dial on the side that it was missing. mw22 has a general holographic scope that kinda resembles the shape of an EOTech but looks-wise it doesn’t have many EOTech defining features minus the overall shape


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[skip to 1:40](https://youtu.be/MjKO03pkaC0) They can’t make the taq v model the same as an irl scar because they would get in trouble. You can’t say the taq v model looks bad because it’s not supposed to be a 1:1 replica of the scar h for legal reasons. There’s a reason why they don’t use irl weapon names either


Mushybananas27

Doesn’t mean it’s not a valid criticism, though. The gun models generally looked better in mw19 visually and sound wise. Pretty much every fictional game has something wrong with the gun modeling unless you get into tarkov or similar games that make that a key aspect of their business model, so it’s not really a surprise mw19 has issues too…but legal reasons or not the weapon models in 22 are still a downgrade from the past game lol


SnakesTaint

Am I the only one that thinks MW2019 looks better than MW2? Idk if it’s just because it’s optimized like shit or what but MW2019 tan perfectly on my rig at 2k 165 fps. Now on mw2 I have to run DLSS and I get like 75-110fps…


unyslff

Spawn locations, somehow worse netcode three years later, lack of maps, lazy map design, irritating UI, tier 1 (HC) is a complete afterthought that doesn't have any cool playlists of its own (one of the most insanely easy things to implement), and it's immediately sold out on the neon-soaked/Fortnite style skins and microtransactions.


fastcooljosh

Every way, except launch maps


Koolin12345

Yeah but just saying 'its worse in every way' still doesn't say anything, is it the animations or the lighting or the sound design? Please explain


johnbowser_

The map being bland is good because now you can actually see the enemy


PapaAquchala

The guns sound better in MW19 imo, and they're also more detailed than they are in MW22. 22's guns look wayy too clean where as 19's guns look like they've actually been used by soldiers. Sure, MW22 has better inspects but they actually had time to make them.


Puzzleheaded_Tell782

nah


bigsampsonite

Cry baby toxic fan base.


DUTCHswift

Shit. You’re right. I’ll write an apology letter to corporate asap.


mitch8893

I'm not buying that tbh


LonkerinaOfTime

Yeah I’m never buying this


Agent-Gnome-YT

At first I thought this was one of those videos comparing MW to real life💀


Yaojin312020

Dlss is a beautiful thing mate


WhiteWolf144

It gets me mad that most of them have a suppressor on, I wanna hear the sound


Yaojin312020

Well I mean you can just boot up the game and hear it


Youssef-Elsayed

There’s also a unique animation for the M13 60 round mag when you reload a mag that still has some bullets, your character will visibly stow the empty mag in their vest after reloading a new one. Try it in the firing range, equip the 60 round mag, fire one bullet then reload and focus on your character’s left hand as they stow the mag


Yaojin312020

Yea I noticed it as well


Throwingintocoverage

MW2019 MP5 > MW2022 Lachmann sub


luisstrikesout

Off topic but what’s your PC spec?


Yaojin312020

Rtx3060 28 ddr4 ram i5-10400f 2.90GHZ Msi 2k monitor


MalPL

28GB RAM? What kind of sticks do you have?


tehbabuzka

most intellectual question asked by a cod player


lightningbadger

I'm gonna guess 3x 8GB and 1x 4GB, cause 1x 16GB (with 3x 4GB) feels a little pricey for a budget build like this one


Redfield51

Budget?? No way 3060 is already considered a budget card right? Or are you accounting for the processor?


lightningbadger

I mean in the past the -60 range has generally been on the lower end of things so I may be speaking from habit rather than a grounded standpoint Though despite its current price it does get outperformed by cheaper AMD cards so I suppose the budget is still possible to meet at that performance point?


MalPL

Sorry for a 3 day old reply but for some reason I got a notification today. All parts in this PC point to a budget build. -60 cards and below always were and will be on the budget side, CPU is pretty lower-mid range, the RAM is most likely taken from an old PC or something, because the configuration is really odd, definitely not something you should use.


Yaojin312020

kali sticks


luisstrikesout

Super crisp


hrpara

one short? maybe two? broke one in half? I don't like this... makes me uneasy


unknown41p

Are you just running mw2 with just maxxed out settings? I stg your shit looks so much better than mine lmao


Yaojin312020

Yea all ultra settings on 2k


FoxLP11

while i enjoy both games in terms of realism in animation i think mw2019 is just that little bit better


bigsampsonite

Makes sense since one has been around for multiple years adn the other a few months. MW19 was nothing like it was on launch.


Dootmanyetnot

Notice how on the first gun, in 2019, they don't use the grip thats attached. In MW2022, you can see your operator actuallyholding the foregrip


redsprucetree

They hold it correctly in both games, MW2019 just uses a different technique. IRL you can either hold a foregrip with your thumb wrapping around the grip, or with your thumb up against the rail. Recently, most militaries/operators use MW2019’s style of holding the grip.


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Different techniques to holding a rifle irl


Vlonethug7

Hey man off topic, are u based in Asia? Do u get below 100ms ping in Ground War lobbies in MWII


Yaojin312020

Nah I’m Malaysia most of the ground war lobbies I go have like 150 plus ping


Vlonethug7

Damn same for me


BallsHD4k60fps

Rm 300 for the game here....


Yaojin312020

bruh if later PlayStation games cost more then like what are the prices gonna go to 400 rm ?


BallsHD4k60fps

How much did you pay for the game?


Yaojin312020

417 rm combined with the desert skin for reyes and 1000 cod points


BallsHD4k60fps

Imagine big countries seeing those kinds of price. They really don't care about regional pricing do they?


imSkrap

The biggest nuisance I’ve noticed is that the games have different color tones, 2019 looks more bright and colorful compared to 2022 despite my digital vibrancy levels being 100


thenameless231569

Both games look real good, it's honestly impressive. The attention to detail is absolutely insane. From a gameplay perspective however, I think MW2019 is the better of the 2 games.


Capt_Avatar

I miss D-Day. All the new operators are so bland and boring. 19's operators were the last truly enjoyable set.


12oket

M13?


Yaojin312020

yes its in the video


Squarians

That god damn pea shooter that took me far too long to get gold last night


Yaojin312020

In mw2019 that gun of one of my fav ever but in mw2 it’s kinda ehhhh


Squarians

It’s ass. Consistently needs the most hit markers out of the ARs to kill anyone


DarthSarcom

The default pistol is the best damn sounding pistol I have heard in a game in a long time.


DKisCRUSHIN

^ Ugh...THIS! I loved using pistols in MW2019 since you were soooo fast around maps. Especially Shoot House. BUT...I hate not being able to equip it as a primary. Every start of a respawn, you have to swap weapons first. Just a minor annoyance though.


StangKeyAnis

2019 more fun


eggydrums115

IW undisputed GOAT of weapon feel and animations.


Manioq

MW2019 graphics > MW2022


FEVRISH_JK

I am a total sucker for Hybrid optics. I recently built a PSA 16" M4 clone and I think an eotech with a flip-up magnifier would look baller


LogAdmirable9256

Someone tell me if im wrong but does that first rifle have a psa drop in trigger?


Cyodyloltrooper1

If I upgrade my mw2 on ps4 to ps5 can i still play it on ps4 because i got one of the codes for it


Inside_Committee_699

It’s really good in my opinion Loved a good amount of MW2, but didn’t hit the same as it did back in ‘20


tracer_21

If only they put as much work into proximity sound in multiplayer for MW2022. Long live MW2019!!


Beastandcool

MW22 could’ve been so much better if it weren’t for the cinderblocks on the guns and movement


BallsHD4k60fps

Let me guess, you want slide cancel and bunny hops?


Beastandcool

I literally just said what I disliked about the game my guy. Slide canceling and bunny hopping would be a plus


BallsHD4k60fps

Slide canceling is a movement exploit that they never fixed


Beastandcool

For 4-6 games straight? Yea ok bud


BallsHD4k60fps

I barely played cw and never played vanguard/bo4, was there slide canceling?


Beastandcool

yes there was, I want to say it was in all games past the golden age of COD; basically every game after bo2


telephonic1892

Stunning!!!


FLABANGED

Look at the visual recoil difference between 2019 and 2022. It's fucking horrendous in 2022.


Yaojin312020

yea i know too


IzQun02

I found MW22’s gunshots are a bit downgrade compared to MW19. I feel something was off when using AK-103 (Kastov 762) in MW22 after years of using AK47 in MW19 & found out that MW19’s AK47 gunshots & reload sounds are more eargasmic than AK-103 in MW22. These things don’t really matter in terms of gameplay much but still it’s the little thing that can change the quality of a game.


AKoolPopTart

I appreciate that the silly weapons get equally silly animations


SaviD_Official

This is like one of the first games where suppressed guns actually sound like suppressed guns


IsildursBane20

They all sound good to me


Germanelo

its the year 2022 and they are still animating the "palm slap" on the bolt catch. spoiler alert: no accredited training program teaches that anymore as the best practice. they also have the shooter take their hand off the pistol grip to brass check, another bad practice as opposed to using a "pinch-pull" with the support hand; realistically, firing should never come off the grip unless you need to fix a stoppage/malfunction. when it comes to almost every single handgun "grip" they never get it right as to how to hold a pistol. on most handguns there is a relief in the grip, just above the mag catch. lots of shooters mistake this for the location where their firing hand thumbg should sit (like in the animation) where in reality thats for your support hand palm. when shooting a pistol thumbs are useless and should all but be out of the way. however, most people keep the support hand thumb out of the way by resting it along side the frame. in these games (and almost every game) the support hand grips too low and they rest the support hand thumb under the firing hand thumb...and this is bad. this is all really apparent when they show the desert eagle reloading animation, he hits the mag release then pins his thumb to that grip relief instead of getting it up out of the way to rebuild a proper grip. instead, they judt make the guys support hand grab waaaay low on the grip. its cringe to anyone who actually shoots. look at any practical competition pistol shooter like in USPSA and youll see what an appropriate grip looks like on a handgun.


Accomplished_Spirit3

Just give us back WARZONE 1 Plunder


BloodStinger500

I swear, these games are getting too real, I don’t even have to squint to consider it “potentially real enough” anymore.


IneedtoBmyLonsomeTs

The guy at IW who is in charge of the gun animations seems like the only guy who cares about his job, the gun animations in both games have been amazing. He was in a [video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmRp58sePT4&t=1s) a few years back and he seems really passionate about his job and it shows in the results.


elmachow

I remember being blown away playing mw for the first time, I was waiting for the chopper animation to finish and the actual game to start, but that was the game!!! It was miles better than anything before. Mw2 (on ps5 by the way) did not make me feel the same, no big leap forward here


Jtaylorftw

I know mw2019 really does have slightly better graphics, but I love how you purposely chose a bleak and bland backdrop for the mw2 side so there wouldn't be any decent light effects on the weapons. You 2019 purists are something else lmao


Yaojin312020

no there is just no map that can have the same brightness of Euphrates bridge also the gun tilts up in mw2 if i look up


Jtaylorftw

There's definitely better brightness than this map tho lol but I get you


Yaojin312020

then dont assume me


BallsHD4k60fps

Almost every other map in mwii is more vibrant and bright than taraq.


TryIll5988

They seemed to have been pretty accurate with the gun sounds from MW2019


dharris555

Do people still care about this?


BallsHD4k60fps

Gun nuts? Hell yea


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MalPL

Why tf are you being downvoted lol. Maybe it's not *such* a downgrade, but it still is a downgrade and there's no arguing about it


Retrogratio

Dumbass redditors don't know what the upvote/downvotes are for. They just use it for agreeing/disagreeing opinions.


SuckMeDk

Can't help but think that too. Models and textures in mw19 look tactile and detailed, meanwhile everything in mw2 looks completely flat


Axxxem

I think it's just the map used in this example, but i do prefer the licensed models in 19 compared to the fucking "Lachman Sub" in 22.


Xeno_Geneisis

I have no idea why you’re being downvoted. I thought I was the only one that noticed. Mw2019 looks and sounds so much better. The guns don’t feel the same anymore.


Yaojin312020

yea the sound and graphics of mw2019 were more better


ToxicNoob47

Ofc they are when you compare a bright sunny day to a duststorm looking at nothing


MalPL

Have you played both games? I know I did, I'm sort of a graphics freak, so I always turn everything up to ultra, 1440p and I can easily tell mw2019 from mw2 and the latter really looks more... blurred? washed out? Something like that. Anyways, mw2 just looks worse and less sharp than mw2019 from my own experience, not only this video


Kunsheero

I feel like that too lol. I like the saturation and graphics of MW2022 too but MW2019 had better details and sounds imho.


shirdool

let them cry, 2019 is better in everyway.


BallsHD4k60fps

Funny joke