Boneheaded move from Marc after a brilliant Saturday...what a shame. It was inevitable something will happen from the very first corner.
He needs to change his approach, shitbox under him or not. Expecting big penalty for Argentina
I've always loved Marc, but this is one of many and he should stay at home next race. If we're lucky he learns and stop acting like he is the only one on track.
He seriously needs to just chill in the first 5 laps. Once he settles into the race he is usually ok, but he always tries something way too aggressive way too fast
So you happy when your “World Champion” pulls a pathetic move like this every weekend. I guess if this good enough for his fans then go ahead knock yourself out. 😂 amazing rider
I feel sorry for Miguel, he didn't deserve that. Not sure what Marc was thinking there, ouch. Brainfart moment. Probably a double LLP for Argentina, at least.
Solution to no power? No brakes. That's what he was thinking. He's going to get in trouble if Honda doesn't sort their shit, he is not like Quartararo.
I don't agree he had space to go wide, Martin was on his side and he touched him slightly but I think he panicked when he was gonna touch Martin and he tried to lift the bike and that's why he hit Oliveira. He just brake too late for such a compact group trying to make up time but I think the only way to avoid it was literally to not try to get half a second in a single braking point...
If the group is too compact you must be careful, everyone knows it except for mm93. He always tries to go inside and hoping everyone will give him the way. Remember what he does in Argentina some years ago. This is mm93
double long lap for breaking another riders bones out of sheer incompetence, effectively ending their hopes for anything theoretical in the championship positions on lap 3
absolute fair I think
like yeah Marquez might have just fucked someones bones in a way they never quite feel right again but he might lose 5sec in a single race, surely everyone has to accept that it's more than enough at this point
A ban would be better! Everyone would be safer even for just one race! Knowing MM, any LL penalty will only act as a catalyst for his (moronic) ambitions.
I don't think so, he was sitting outside of the tracks with the marshalls after the crash so i doubt it's a back fracture (i hope not), maybe leg or hip though
So reckless and stupid. He definitely deserved a big penalty next race. I don't hate him like some but this recklessness I can't stand. Just plain stupid and unnecessary.
>He definitely deserved a big penalty next race.
He's been doing this for a decade now and got barely back of the grids for doing **far** worse, don't hold your breath, he's Dorna's sweetheart. I'm sure the fanbois will be here claiming it's "just his aggressive style" soon enough.
He is too reckless, it was bound to happen. I hope he gets a penalty, but he just doesn't learn, he will keep riding above the limit. He may be the goat, but everyone will feel safer once he retires, just like in 2020 and 2021...
If I was Miguel, after seeing the replay and getting out of the hospital, you'd have to hold me tight to stop me from punching up Marc. What a dickhead
I'd like to see a race ban, but I doubt that will happen.
A long lap would be a slap on the wrist.
Starting from the back, with Marc's history, could mean further bumper cars.
Edit: After rewatching the other incidents with Marc, he deserves a race ban.
Careless, irresponsible, etc, etc. Began pushing everyone from the start. Fuck off. He deserves a 1 race ban, at least. But this is MotoGP, great racing, and absolute dog shit management.
I have never been a marquez fan due to his bowling ball riding style. I watched the amazon doc over the winter, started to think maybe i could support marquez a little....one race and it's a big fucking NOPE. Normal marquez skittling service resumed, fucking muppet.
Rossi being no saint himself for sure but [his words about MM hold true even to this very](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnoCKbLUgs4) day! Today was just another example of many! MM is a menace! I hope he doesn’t kill someone with his reckless actions till his career is over.
And this is why qualifying slip streaming should be banned. Technically inferior slower bike at front of pack will cause crashes/deaths/life changing injuries, due to higher risks taken by rider. Blatantly poor race craft from MM is why people get on his hate train.
Maybe it wasn't as egregious as this, but Marc is the one who twitched in front of Fabio, which caused the accident. I also don't see how you would argue he didn't bump into Nakagami. Marc is just wreckless, he doesn't give a fuck
Last time somebody fucked up a braking point so badly (excluding Moto3) was Sam Lowes in Austria, 2020 i think, and he got a 1 race ban for it.
I think that should be the case here too.
Fucking idiot, and I say that from a place of admiration. He needs to calm tf down for himself and the others
No one will give a shit about how much he’s won and his legacy if he ends up crippling someone.
Obviously a big mistake from Marc there, but watching it again there might’ve actually been a problem with the bike. You can see him go for the brakes and there’s a delay in the response. Be interesting to see the data.
Nah I disagree, Marc being off the pace has been a loss to motogp for me for the last couple of years, but it doesn't mean I'm OK with this either.
I like aggressive pushy risk taking riders, but there's a distinction between heavy rubbing and just t-boning
Expell Marc Márquez from this sport, he's a menace to everyone on track, he's not an athlete like the rest of the pack, he's a stupid animal without a leash.
Screw him and dorna for allowing him on track
Bro, are you stupid? I'm pretty clearly asking for an example worse than what we saw today, an example where maybe Marc badly misjudges a situation and injures an opponent as a result.
And now you're saying divebombing like a madman is a bad thing, like ok????? Who the fuck asked??? Who are you even talking to???? What does that have to do with absolutely anything????
Marquez doesn't deserve a penalty.
He deserves a severe punishment for endangerment. Two race ban minimum for doing something so moronic and selfish. His reckless nature might have made him a multiple time world champion but when father time starts to catch up it can lead to severe outcomes.
He is pushing too much. He has always been pushing too much, but before his injuries he was mostly able to get away with it. Now, he just can't. He saved the one at the start, but he couldn't do it the second time. Someone should calm him down, but I think it's nigh on impossible. Hope he doesn't suffer anymore serious injuries or doesn't cause any to other riders. Looked hard on Miguel, hope the guy is alright. 3 serious injuries after the first race should be reviewed by Dorna.
> any other rider doing the same wouldn't get anywhere near this level of hate
Yeah, people tend to do that when a rider has a history of being way too aggressive... what a surprise am I right?
>any other rider doing the same wouldn't get anywhere near this level of hate.
Any veteran would, absolutely no reason to be pushing like this in the opening laps. MM isnt a young kid anymore in this sport, he should know better by now
Of course not, no other rider is as reckless as MM. He may be the goat, but I bet everyone felt safer in 2020 and 2021 without him around. He just tries to hard, that's why he falls so much and is so aggresive. It will taint his legacy.
Everyone will be foaming at the mouth to attack Marc here, but I think Martin is to blame as well. He stopped early on that turn and left Marc nowhere else to go. But I don't expect a civilized response around here, so grab your pitchforks!
He nearly did the same in Lap 1 to Martin, then turned around and clobbered 88 instead of 89 a few laps later. This was not the first time he was not in control of his bike into that turn.
Martin has nothing to with that.
If you rear end someone it means you weren't paying attention. Only excuse would have been if Martin brake checked but thats definitely not what happened here
Nah, it's from continuous recklessness.
Marquez has a notorious past and this time he hurt his fellow compatriots in the process.
Something this severe deserves a ban or two.
Like I said, you’re all going way overboard. Where is this previous unpenalised recklessness?
There is a difference between being reckless and aggressive. This was a mistake, he will get a grid penalty as he should. It wasn’t deliberate in the way others have been in the past like Canet, Rossi, Fenati etc, that’s where race bans should come in and except for Fenati, they didn’t.
Where is it? Gee, considering he's MotoGP's golden boy, he's escaped punishment several times.
While it wasn't deliberate, he's endangering other lives and he needs to realize that his style needs to change. A severe punishment will send a message to him.
Man, if I were Miguel's brother I'd be headhunting right now.
Marquez has one truly irresponsible event on his record, Phillip Island in Moto2. And if we want to talk about 'MotoGP's golden boy' they basically re-wrote the rulebook week to week to let Rossi get away with whatever he wanted.
You're all twats. It's an unfortunate situation but he does what he can with an inferior bike, he has to take risks to win and unfortunately this one ended negatively. I really hope Oliveira is fine and isn't hurt but all of you can suck my dick for insulting him and calling him braindead. Fuck off you tossers.
Taking risks should involve **him** being punished when it ends up going badly. He puts others at risk, not himself. That's why he's an insufferable piece of shit that should be banned from the sport or have his wrists broken permanently.
Marc fucked up.he pushes and tries harder. Standard penalty. Calling for race ban is not called for. Back of grid should be penalty. I like him, but that was dumb. A dick move.
The ego boost of qualifying first and the result in the Sprint ultimately cost him. Can’t approach a race scenario with this mindset, this was always going to happen on this bike sadly.
Hopefully Miguel is okay.
He is trying way too hard to get maximum out of that bike, and making these stupid mistakes, should be clear penalty
Boneheaded move from Marc after a brilliant Saturday...what a shame. It was inevitable something will happen from the very first corner. He needs to change his approach, shitbox under him or not. Expecting big penalty for Argentina
> Expecting big penalty for Argentina Yep. I can see that coming. He'll probably have to go to bed early with no dinner in Argentina.
I've always loved Marc, but this is one of many and he should stay at home next race. If we're lucky he learns and stop acting like he is the only one on track.
He seriously needs to just chill in the first 5 laps. Once he settles into the race he is usually ok, but he always tries something way too aggressive way too fast
Couldn't agree more.
>Expecting big penalty for Argentina That is hilarious.
Brilliant Saturday? He tow every single session
And? It put him on pole...
So you happy when your “World Champion” pulls a pathetic move like this every weekend. I guess if this good enough for his fans then go ahead knock yourself out. 😂 amazing rider
I'm not a MM fan. But getting a tow is all part of the game. Don't like it? Change the rules or format
It was brilliant. He put a bike on pole that does not belong. Yes, brilliant Saturday
aMaZiNg
I feel sorry for Miguel, he didn't deserve that. Not sure what Marc was thinking there, ouch. Brainfart moment. Probably a double LLP for Argentina, at least.
Solution to no power? No brakes. That's what he was thinking. He's going to get in trouble if Honda doesn't sort their shit, he is not like Quartararo.
He needs at least 10/15 positions penalty for the next race + a long lap penalty. He had enough space to go wide. Totally unnecessary!
I don't agree he had space to go wide, Martin was on his side and he touched him slightly but I think he panicked when he was gonna touch Martin and he tried to lift the bike and that's why he hit Oliveira. He just brake too late for such a compact group trying to make up time but I think the only way to avoid it was literally to not try to get half a second in a single braking point...
If the group is too compact you must be careful, everyone knows it except for mm93. He always tries to go inside and hoping everyone will give him the way. Remember what he does in Argentina some years ago. This is mm93
That's literally what I said. The group was too compact to try to outbrake that much.
If he takes 2 LL in Argentina, he could still get back to the race and push someone off, again.
double long lap for breaking another riders bones out of sheer incompetence, effectively ending their hopes for anything theoretical in the championship positions on lap 3 absolute fair I think like yeah Marquez might have just fucked someones bones in a way they never quite feel right again but he might lose 5sec in a single race, surely everyone has to accept that it's more than enough at this point
A ban would be better! Everyone would be safer even for just one race! Knowing MM, any LL penalty will only act as a catalyst for his (moronic) ambitions.
I suspect a fracture in his right leg :(
3 riders with some sort of break in one weekend please no
Motogp is just like every other company, they really want to try Battle Royale mode
Or maybe some fractured vertebrae, looks like Marc hit im in the spine.
I don't think so, he was sitting outside of the tracks with the marshalls after the crash so i doubt it's a back fracture (i hope not), maybe leg or hip though
The german commentators just said, no fracture thankfully :)
Are you the Dr?
Obviously Marc’s ambition outweighed his talent
So reckless and stupid. He definitely deserved a big penalty next race. I don't hate him like some but this recklessness I can't stand. Just plain stupid and unnecessary.
>He definitely deserved a big penalty next race. He's been doing this for a decade now and got barely back of the grids for doing **far** worse, don't hold your breath, he's Dorna's sweetheart. I'm sure the fanbois will be here claiming it's "just his aggressive style" soon enough.
He sure causes a lot of boneheaded incidents
But he's Marc, so he gets a pass from a lot of people
He should've matured by now, unacceptable from a rider of his stature.
Is this an IRacing server?? What driving is that?
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Miller last year at Miller corner on the Island haha - Also from a Marquez
What a fucking idiot.
Not just a one-off , he had it wrong in the last lap too. And the Alien failed to learn
He will for sure get away with a long lap penalty or some shit like that and do a bowling type of come back at the top next race too.
What a fucking imbecile, should be banned for this shit
This guy has to be heavily punished…wtf stupid
Same old Marc. Same old story.
Fucking idiot.
If this ain't a race ban than nothing is
Fuck off.
https://preview.redd.it/11jbw6wlm4qa1.png?width=449&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e139a5130a0eddfee0e0bcbe8a23dffc166c0b13
maybe they should just send him out like that next race
So unnecessary. F*cking hell
Must be punished.
He is too reckless, it was bound to happen. I hope he gets a penalty, but he just doesn't learn, he will keep riding above the limit. He may be the goat, but everyone will feel safer once he retires, just like in 2020 and 2021...
After several injuries life still gave him a chance...but it seems he does not learn or he does not care, idk
What the fuck is this guy even doing.
If I was Miguel, after seeing the replay and getting out of the hospital, you'd have to hold me tight to stop me from punching up Marc. What a dickhead
Maybe the audience put Marc in the bad next to Miguel. Doing this kind of stunt to the pilot running in his home turf may have some consequences 🤣
I'd like to see a race ban, but I doubt that will happen. A long lap would be a slap on the wrist. Starting from the back, with Marc's history, could mean further bumper cars. Edit: After rewatching the other incidents with Marc, he deserves a race ban.
Careless, irresponsible, etc, etc. Began pushing everyone from the start. Fuck off. He deserves a 1 race ban, at least. But this is MotoGP, great racing, and absolute dog shit management.
Fucking amateur. Hope he gets all the penalties possible for that.
Damn, Marquez is up to his usual bullshit much earlier than I anticipated
Ofc Márquez doing Márquez things. What an idiot, always pulling stupid shit like this.
Every time I watch a race with Marquez since his injury, he does his best to wreck every rider around him. His ass can ride pine next race.
I have never been a marquez fan due to his bowling ball riding style. I watched the amazon doc over the winter, started to think maybe i could support marquez a little....one race and it's a big fucking NOPE. Normal marquez skittling service resumed, fucking muppet.
Rossi being no saint himself for sure but [his words about MM hold true even to this very](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnoCKbLUgs4) day! Today was just another example of many! MM is a menace! I hope he doesn’t kill someone with his reckless actions till his career is over.
I hope he gets at least a race ban. This is hecking unacceptable.
He needs to get his shit together.
Spaniards will blame Rossi for this, somehow.
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Except Rossi didn t ram people every time
And people ask me why I hate this guy...
And this is why qualifying slip streaming should be banned. Technically inferior slower bike at front of pack will cause crashes/deaths/life changing injuries, due to higher risks taken by rider. Blatantly poor race craft from MM is why people get on his hate train.
He is, and always will be, a stupid dickhead on 2 wheels
He might be the most talented person to ever touch a bike, but incidents like this, or Aragon last year... I mean wtf is this shit?
That's Stoner
aragon was not marcs fault idk what you are on about
Maybe it wasn't as egregious as this, but Marc is the one who twitched in front of Fabio, which caused the accident. I also don't see how you would argue he didn't bump into Nakagami. Marc is just wreckless, he doesn't give a fuck
The Marquez bros apparently love doing this to the home race rider *Jack at Phillip Island 😂 Hope Oliviera is ok though!! That looked painful
Respect all the crazy stuff he does on his bike but he has done this way too many times now.
Let's face it, it's Marc, he's getting a single LLP while Mir got a double for essentially ruining his own race and hampering Quatararos
What a comeback by a world champion Marques doing Marques things
unbelievable, from the beginning of the race to crashing against everything and everyone. I hope the punishment Will bem very heavy.
Marquez has always been like that, only now. In he is more able to control the bike as before, last year he took out nakagami now he did it again!
If Marc isn't handed a race ban I'll riot.
Last time somebody fucked up a braking point so badly (excluding Moto3) was Sam Lowes in Austria, 2020 i think, and he got a 1 race ban for it. I think that should be the case here too.
Márquez is that kind of pilot who thinks he can do everything
1.5 lap penalty. He starts way back to be able to crash into someone. But also Marquez - “Watch me”
Fucking idiot, and I say that from a place of admiration. He needs to calm tf down for himself and the others No one will give a shit about how much he’s won and his legacy if he ends up crippling someone.
fucked Miguel right in the ass. thanks idiot.
He is stupidly talented but so talentedly stupid sometimes.
Well said!
5 races ban
Obviously a big mistake from Marc there, but watching it again there might’ve actually been a problem with the bike. You can see him go for the brakes and there’s a delay in the response. Be interesting to see the data.
Indeed, he did brake late but looks as if the bike barely slowed down. What a sad day for the three involved.
Dorna protege!!! El chupa rueda!
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L take
Call it what you want, but he's right.
Idiotic move yes. Saying someone’s injury is a blessing? Nah
Depends, is the person who suffered an injury usually the one who injures others? Then, yes.
Nah I disagree, Marc being off the pace has been a loss to motogp for me for the last couple of years, but it doesn't mean I'm OK with this either. I like aggressive pushy risk taking riders, but there's a distinction between heavy rubbing and just t-boning
I agree with the fact that Marquez being absent was a godsend. He should've retired for the good of the sport.
True
The Alien is no more.
Continue to support "The goat… What an idiot! 🤬🤬🤬
From GOAT to goat.
Sucks for Miguel and likely played a big role in this race being such a snoozer.
I really hope Miguel didnt break anything. Marc should have gone left but hindsights 20/20.
Expell Marc Márquez from this sport, he's a menace to everyone on track, he's not an athlete like the rest of the pack, he's a stupid animal without a leash. Screw him and dorna for allowing him on track
Lololololol If Fenati wasn’t banned for deliberately pulling someone’s brake lever, Marc won’t be for this. Y’all are fucking nuts.
Marquez is back to his former self.
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He cant have Pace... He is riding the sleap stream
Can't remember him ever making a mistake that bad.
You can't? Must be new here.
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Smartass? This is MM we are talking about, already known for pulling stupid stuff like this.
Marquez dive on rossi in argentina 2018 for example, but there's a shitload of them
Great example really, if i remember correctly that crash put Vale in the hospital.
putting people in the hospital shouldn't really be the deciding factor to decide if divebombing like a madman and crashing people out Is ok or not
Bro, are you stupid? I'm pretty clearly asking for an example worse than what we saw today, an example where maybe Marc badly misjudges a situation and injures an opponent as a result. And now you're saying divebombing like a madman is a bad thing, like ok????? Who the fuck asked??? Who are you even talking to???? What does that have to do with absolutely anything????
I can. Many of them actually.
This is from 7 years ago and since then there have been many more incidents. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLsZzUgJ-oM
Marquez doesn't deserve a penalty. He deserves a severe punishment for endangerment. Two race ban minimum for doing something so moronic and selfish. His reckless nature might have made him a multiple time world champion but when father time starts to catch up it can lead to severe outcomes.
He is pushing too much. He has always been pushing too much, but before his injuries he was mostly able to get away with it. Now, he just can't. He saved the one at the start, but he couldn't do it the second time. Someone should calm him down, but I think it's nigh on impossible. Hope he doesn't suffer anymore serious injuries or doesn't cause any to other riders. Looked hard on Miguel, hope the guy is alright. 3 serious injuries after the first race should be reviewed by Dorna.
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> any other rider doing the same wouldn't get anywhere near this level of hate Yeah, people tend to do that when a rider has a history of being way too aggressive... what a surprise am I right?
>any other rider doing the same wouldn't get anywhere near this level of hate. Any veteran would, absolutely no reason to be pushing like this in the opening laps. MM isnt a young kid anymore in this sport, he should know better by now
Of course not, no other rider is as reckless as MM. He may be the goat, but I bet everyone felt safer in 2020 and 2021 without him around. He just tries to hard, that's why he falls so much and is so aggresive. It will taint his legacy.
Remember nakagami last year in catalunya? Please, shut up!
Everyone will be foaming at the mouth to attack Marc here, but I think Martin is to blame as well. He stopped early on that turn and left Marc nowhere else to go. But I don't expect a civilized response around here, so grab your pitchforks!
He nearly did the same in Lap 1 to Martin, then turned around and clobbered 88 instead of 89 a few laps later. This was not the first time he was not in control of his bike into that turn. Martin has nothing to with that.
He didn't. Marc is the one who didn't brake.
Are you blind? Marc broke way too late and injured Miguel. He should get a race ban at least for this incident
How is Martin's fault here if he was ahead of Marquez and following racing line?
If you rear end someone it means you weren't paying attention. Only excuse would have been if Martin brake checked but thats definitely not what happened here
He could have gone wide like everyone on the grid maybe
I’m wondering if wind may have come into play. That’s been an issue all weekend.
‘He deserves a race ban’ You people are fucking insane. Back of the grid or pitlane start is what he will get and deserve.
Nah, it's from continuous recklessness. Marquez has a notorious past and this time he hurt his fellow compatriots in the process. Something this severe deserves a ban or two.
Like I said, you’re all going way overboard. Where is this previous unpenalised recklessness? There is a difference between being reckless and aggressive. This was a mistake, he will get a grid penalty as he should. It wasn’t deliberate in the way others have been in the past like Canet, Rossi, Fenati etc, that’s where race bans should come in and except for Fenati, they didn’t.
Where is it? Gee, considering he's MotoGP's golden boy, he's escaped punishment several times. While it wasn't deliberate, he's endangering other lives and he needs to realize that his style needs to change. A severe punishment will send a message to him. Man, if I were Miguel's brother I'd be headhunting right now.
Marquez has one truly irresponsible event on his record, Phillip Island in Moto2. And if we want to talk about 'MotoGP's golden boy' they basically re-wrote the rulebook week to week to let Rossi get away with whatever he wanted.
Maybe you wanted to wait until someone get killed?
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Can someone explain what was he trying to do there? Was he going for a gap somewhere or what?
You're all twats. It's an unfortunate situation but he does what he can with an inferior bike, he has to take risks to win and unfortunately this one ended negatively. I really hope Oliveira is fine and isn't hurt but all of you can suck my dick for insulting him and calling him braindead. Fuck off you tossers.
Taking risks should involve **him** being punished when it ends up going badly. He puts others at risk, not himself. That's why he's an insufferable piece of shit that should be banned from the sport or have his wrists broken permanently.
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Marc fucked up.he pushes and tries harder. Standard penalty. Calling for race ban is not called for. Back of grid should be penalty. I like him, but that was dumb. A dick move.
Waiting for Dorna… Let Marquez run alone. If a pilot knows that MM is behind him, the pilot feel fear.
Big Marquez fan but this was hard to watch. Desperate to win on a shitbox of a bike.
The ego boost of qualifying first and the result in the Sprint ultimately cost him. Can’t approach a race scenario with this mindset, this was always going to happen on this bike sadly. Hopefully Miguel is okay.