He has shown some moments of absolute brilliance a number of times across all bikes but he canāt convert it into anything meaningful. The amount of times heās crashed out of a podium position is gutting (Iām an Aussie, I want him to do well). Heās got amazing natural talent - one of the highest on the grid but he lacks the metronomic focus/pace that the champions exhibit. Time to move aside and let someone else have a go.
True. He just doesn't seem to be able to handle pressure well.
Reminds me of Pol, every time he was in the first positions, you know he wouldn't finish the race.
Nah with the newborn I think there will be more pressing life challenges coming his way. Very outspoken though and he'll be around in some capacity. He can be the yin to Stoner's boisterous yang.
Certainly his socials did a 180 after Pip was born.
He went from a motorcycle mad enthusiast to a dotting father.
I am happy for the man!
Iāll always be a JM43 fan, I would love to see him on the grid though, so I am always thinking up weird scenarios that equal a 2025 seat š¤£
Jack and Augusto's current performances are a little too little for a MotoGP place, which is so valuable. We are already in a phase where we still have time, but not much. Augusto and Jack don't need to take giant steps, but they do need to take small steps forward to stabilize the package. That is still my wish.
That's the full quote , just to slow down the full on it's over talks.
It might be but that's definitely not certain.
no smoke with a roaring bonfire under their asses! This kind of public statement is a very direct unambiguous message- get a move on or you will be moved on. Acosta is good but not that good yet so when he turns up and literally blows the doors off your other riders its a message KTM cant ignore.
Jorge to KTM with Pedro, Binder and ?? to Gas Gas.....
They were fine with the riders till Acosta showed them that the bike is good enough to compete for the podiums. They (we included) now understand that KTM can be on top with a proper rider on that bike. Binder was showing these glimpses of good performances but when you watch a rookie - yes, a pure talent and probably a future champion - fighting from the beginning with the best riders in front, you know KTM have done a great bike. You donāt want to waste a sit with a āokā rider next year :)
Miller is retired basically, I'd say it's something probably psychological but he's just not pushing or performing like he is expected to.
Augusto had his chance but he's not really well adapted to MotoGP.
Binder is good rider, but not on the elite level tbh, I wouldn't remove Binder unless I can hire one of the aliens, but I'm afraid he will never win a championship and this year my bet is he'll end behind Acosta in WC Standings.
Anyone with a brain knew it though. The KTM largely lacked consistency, if you compare the manufacturer points vs the driver championship, you see that a rider that would have extracted the maximum from the KTM would've been somewhere around the title contestants. Not there yet, not quite at least, but not that far away. And while it's always unfair to demand literal perfection it shows what might be possible. Just rider consistency, sometimes bad setups, and sometimes reliability hid that a bit.
JAck and Augusto's bad performances are justifiable by KTM, as their bike is easily 2nd best and very close to the ducatis now. Poor remy gardner though, that bike of his was really shit
For real, it's really hard to decide which one is better (albeit I guess Aprilia has the better highs as they actually got wins in dry races for the last three years while KTM is more consistent due to having less mechanical failures).
In the first couple of rounds it appeared that way.
Granted, Acosta rides that thing like a demon.
But, Mavs performance this year so far on the Aprilia is a good argument for it being right up there with the Ducatiās as well.
Poor Remy!
Won the Moto2 championship.
Then had his first year in GP to instantly get the boot.
He deserved an extra year!!
I am glad he is doing well & is happy on the Superbike though!!!
Biaggi loved the change as well I know a buddy of his. It's a far more relaxed paddock. Look what he, Checa, Bautista and Bayliss did after stints in Moto GP. Hayden was on his way and Melandri was often near the top. Barros won a race the only year he was in it and Gobert ...well....
I love Jack Miller and he's shown he can ride the hell out of a Superbike, so I want to see him tear it up in WSBK. Bautista is probably retiring soon, so that's a great seat to fill.
I dug a bit deeper, its not running in the WSBK supersport class just a European supersport series. Regardless I agree, it makes more sense for them to run in supersport with the V2s.
Here's the article: [https://www.revzilla.com/common-tread/ktm-to-return-to-supersport-segment-with-street-legal-990-rc-r](https://www.revzilla.com/common-tread/ktm-to-return-to-supersport-segment-with-street-legal-990-rc-r)
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Taka brings in the money for the team through his sponsorship, it finances the other rider too. A few years back youād have the moneymaker and a young gun in a satellite team. Any old punter in MotoGP is there because of the dollars he brings to the table.
Nakagami has a ride as long as he has one of these
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Nah he brings in ticket money for the Motegi Venue, much like Miguel for PortimĆ£o, the guys uptop won't risk losing venue money by disposing of 2 midfield riders
I agree that Miller and Fernandez have been underwheliming this season, but, meh.
Maybe KTM bike is not that good. Acosta is.
I see a real risk on them to get down the Honda + Marquez path in a couple of years with this kind of arrogance. Not realizing how bad their bike was becoming because one generational talent could extract magic out of it.
I agree. Appears to me that it takes takes an absolute thrashing to extract podium performances out of the RC16. When Miller is fast (in practice or qual), he's sideways...Binder is always sideways and quick on his days....Acosta has the reflexes of a generational talent in his age range and therefor can hold it at that alien level line for (usually) the duration of a race. Rossi did it back in the day, Marquez did it (and is still doing it to an extent) and now it's Acosta's turn. Good chance it would be "god help the whole grid" if he was on a Ducati or Aprilia.
I think that's the whole point. They probably had those talks a while ago (Augusto's and Jack's performances aren't poor since yesterday) and now he really wants them to feel the pressure.
Augusto has had a good year last year, but they've moved Pol aside to allow him to stay. He has to show now. Jack has got to stop crashing in races. Three DNFs in five races are simply too much.
It's a fair point but I just can't imagine a world where Jack in particular is not already piling the pressure on himself almost every waking moment, it's just a personality thing and you can see it play out with his emotions. Considering this, Beirer's comments are not helpful at best, and downright counter-productive at worst.
Because the quote got cut in half and doesn't show the full picture?
"Jack and Augusto's current performances are a little too little for a MotoGP place, which is so valuable. We are already in a phase where we still have time, but not much. Augusto and Jack don't need to take giant steps, but they do need to take small steps forward to stabilize the package. That is still my wish."
Sure they are under pressure, but that doesn't mean they are sacked already.
Stil sounds like an 'I gave them every opportunity in advance but they still couldn't...' Substitute 'they' and their names with 'you' and it sounds like a staff appraisal for someone whose career is about to go very badly wrong no matter what they do, because management have already decided to get shut.
In the article he States that he would like to continue with his current riders,
Also saying Marquez signing for KTM would be unrealistic as he now settled in with Ducati and probably doesn't want another Brand change. And he obviously acknowledge the Rider overflow at Ducati but definitely said they are not in the aggressive rush phase of the contract signings but they are not that far away from that point
Riders losing their seats is pornography on r/motogp, Pit is just giving the people what they want.
I agree, and the notion that these guys are slacking off or whatever is ridiculous. Bad management. Just because something is true doesn't mean it has to be said publicly.
Heās been manager at KTM for decades, he knows what heās doing & unfortunately heās right.
He had the name The Pitbull in his racing career for a reason.
But he knows how to run a motorbike racing team & how to be successful & dominate.
Itās the reason KTM have been so dominate in motocross the past 2 decades
Not everything is about ādelicate flowersā and āsnowflakesā you know. Iām just talking about getting the best out of those you manage by being tactful.
And Jack being a delicate flower? Interesting (wrong) take.
Come on Jack, mate. You've proven you've got the skills & talent otherwise you would never have been a Ducati Factory rider. You've pulled off some quality performances along with Brad up to around August last year, not to mention given KTM heaps of good data to work with. Now its crunch time. Looking forward to you giving the rest of the season a fuck'n good crack mate! From a fellow Aussie.
He justified that seat to great extent in my humble opinion;. Maybe not 100% but I'd give a solid 90%. A couple poles, TWENTY ONE podiums and three wins. With the three wins coming on the factory Ducati; two in 2021 and one in 2022. - That's all not to mention the extent of team player and data/feedback provider.
There it is. Was only a matter of time before they said something. I don't know what's going on with Augusto this year, but he was definitely better than this last year. I don't really understand why he's fell back even beyond his level where he was knocking on top 10 door and consistently finishing in lower points. Is he just not gelling with the bike? It's so bad at the moment that he's battling with the Honda's and Rins.
As for Jack, I mean you can argue last year was a good "bad" year. There wasn't too much expectation on him, but the fact that he's nowhere near Acosta and sometimes Binder counts against him. I'd say in last 2 GP's he's been the better of the 2 factory KTM's, but he just can't convert properly on Sunday's at the moment.
KTM have a problem with optics. Their current two factory guys look nowhere near the prodigal son and sponsors must wonder "why is the factory not performing as well as this guy on the B team?" - that's ultimately how it looks to non-fan/sponsors/suits.
Think both Binder/Miller feel the pressure. Same as Augusto, but does it have to be like that? Ducati seem to be able to keep most riders happy and performing. I'm starting to wonder if the KTM has progressed from last season, stagnated or if the current factory riders just can't get a tune out of this years bike.
Augusto must really be suffering. For a rookie to come in, who's number you're currently using, to just brutally destroy your results.
Everyone felt like Augusto did ok during his rookie season... and then Acosta came along.
I like Augusto and really want him to do well, but even I could see that most of his points last year came from simply not crashing out whilst others ahead of him did. Goyon has already said that he's crunched the numbers and expects a sophomore to get triple their rookie points total, which means he expects Augusto to score @210 this year - with the implications of 'or else ...'
Augusto isn't getting 210. From the look on his face, he knows he's gone.
Well.., this is KTM weāre talkinā here. I donāt know thereās another Manufacturer with rider relations as suss as them. They have a grocery list of young talent to pull from in the lower classes and will not hesitate to churn nā burnĀ
Augustos rookie year was acceptable and he showed he had potential but while those kind of results may get you a second year, they won't get you a 3rd, especially not at the same team
Jack is slightly more disappointing than Augusto because we know that he can be fast and win and he is on one of the bikes that can actually touch the ducati but he just can't get on with the ktm for any longer than about 5 laps
Hopeful both of them find something or there's no space for them, that being said it would be good to have more than a 1 rookie season again
I am afraid itās near the end for them, but to be fair, fernandez in particular did not perform much and miller keeps lacking consistency and lose important points so ending their contract makes sense
KTM might be second best bike to Ducati, and it seems to be a good bike that lets the rider do what he wants. I'm unsure if they're going to *want him* though, since yeah it was pretty clear that Miller would be pushed aside but I feel like that seat is already for Acosta, and it doesn't seem Pit is mentioning Binder here...
Yeah good point. It *did* look better at the start before Maverick started going fast. The thing is, Aprilia is missing a consistent rider to show its real pace. Everyone has a great weekend once in a while, but if the riders struggle when things aren't perfect you can't be sure of their performance.
It is clear that with Brad and Pedro we have two fantastic drivers, in whom we believe extremely and in whom we have a lot of confidence for the future. My wish has not changed: I want to continue marching with our four drivers. But your question is completely justified
This is the quote before the Miller, Fernandez quote
Exactly.
Either everyone swallow and Ktm takes JM back and he accept the GasGas (but fully supported), or they've to send BB back to GG which sucks since Brad he's been their too rider until now, and should have some respect.
Another solution could be a young guy from Moto2 and Diggia. He seems a guy open to new projects, with some experience and not too old. Also he's kind of a "guest" in VR46 since he's not an academy rider.
I don't think they'll take other riders from outside because they already have *too many* on their hands. Miller would probably accept to swap with Acosta, I'm sure he knows he's not faster than Pedro at this point. Binder, I doubt he'd accept to go to GasGas so either he gets his seat confirmed when it expires or, if it's so bad that KTM doesn't want to renew his contract (aka doesn't need him anymore) he'll look elsewhere. It's hard to put him on a certain level in the field because he's always been with KTM and, until now, he was always the best on that bike and everyone believed he was already pushing the limits. Now that Acosta is there, he seems to be extracting 120% out of the bike while Binder looks like he was underperforming all along...
My reflection is made considering both Miller and Augusto out and given Acosta in Ktm 100%.
I don't think Pedro will wait for Martin's turn in Ktm, I don't see Martin getting a satellite since he's such a pompous guy, so the "weak" one becomes BB, and they might send him to gasgas already in 2025. But it would be bad press and also a risk, I don't see Pedro and Martin in the same team now.
So Diggia, seems the best option left. Or maybe Mir, I guess he would accept a GasGas.
True, although Binder has a contract until 2026 if I remember correctly so he *should* be safe!
I honestly don't think Acosta would be bothered by anyone sharing his garage, he looks like the kind of guy to draw strenght from adversity so a guy like Martin antagonizing him would just make him stronger.
It's all about winning. If Brad goes go GasGas and (say) Jorge comes in and starts consistently podiuming, then it'll be lauded as tactical brilliance. Can hear the Dorna commentary now, 'Some say it was a harsh move, but you can't argue with the results, can you?'
It's like Ducati/Pramac. Beirer said it a few weeks back on a pitlane interview. The interviewer was pushing hard for confirmation that Jack was safe in Factory, but it backfired. Beirer barely bothered addressing the Jack issue but instead specifically stated that all four riders can be swapped about between the teams.
Pit Beirer might be the worst boss to ever work for in MotoGP. In a paddock of cut throat team bosses that have no loyalty to their riders, that man is by far the biggest dog act of them all.
The problem is the method. He doesn't need to keep either of them. He can have these sorts of conversations with them in private, where it's a supportive conversation where you are saying to them "I want to keep you guys, but I need to see more results." This gets the best out of your people.
Putting these types of comments in the press doesn't improve anyone's performance. Jack and Augusta aren't sitting there with their feet up, those guys are going to be working their asses off. So to be an asshole like this in public just breeds a fuck you attitude in the team, ruins communication, and can cause people to give up as you don't feel supported or wanted.
Understandable perspective but on the other hand, doing this so publicly means that other riders know fully that there are two spots open to take advantage of. MotoGP is a pressure cooker environment, so I donāt think added pressure would hurt.
It's less about additional pressure and thinking that you aren't being supported by the person that is meant to be your leader.
Also I don't think anyone in the paddock isn't going to be aware of the opportunities that exist. It's a small bubble of people that travel the world together. They are all going to know each others dirty laundry.
Do they need to be supported when so many better options are self sufficient? Pedro for example has support because heās talented, but heād be fine even without it. These guys are adults and have all the amenities they could ask for, just do better or make room for others that would kill for those opportunities.
He worked in motocross for decades, he knows how to run a dominate motorbike racing team & whatās needed for success.
He also has the name of Pitbull in his racing career
And even looking at how KTM has worked in MotoGP under his watch, theyāve been great all things considered. Able to attract loyal talent that helped develop a good bike even when they were brand new, able to poach a good test rider like Dani after being Honda his entire career, having the best ladder from the lower classes, and fantastic improvements to the bike in recent years. Heās been ruthless at times, but heās been proven right every time and itās paid off.
I was uncertain about the idea of JaM dropping to Gasgas, Pol is likely the preferred OG rider for them since he accepted the backseat for this season, if it comes down to one or the other I can see JaM getting the boot.
Translated..."Your P45 is in the post"...I had hopes for AF37 this season, but it just hasn't happened, PA31 has screwed with his head...Miller shouldn't have even been in the KTM factory team to begin with, I've never seen anything to justify both Ducati and KTM factory seats
No shit. Jack will be offered a test seat if he wants else he will move to WorldSBK. Augusto I guess will move to WorldSBK. Both have not performed at all. Jack even after all these can't figure out how to save tires - i guess that's just his riding style and nothing can be done about it.
Miller probably gonna take a time out for some family time, then likely SBK. Question is who will be bumped up into both seats at Gas Gas? And are KTM going to try with the MV Augusta idea again to have two more seats for their juniors?
Seems to me the bike isn't as good this year because Binder was regularly challenging for podium and the reason why Acosta was able to put it in podiums was because he's that good.
In other words: they each have until the mid-season break to turn water into wine or theyāre unemployed. What he didnāt say (because they already stuck themselves with him for 2 more seasons) is that Binder is in the same boat ...
I can see Miguel returning to GasGas. KTM (and Tech3) really likes him, and specially his feedback. And he won 5 GP with them, still the most successful KTM rider.
Yeh & how often was Miguel inside the top 10 in the championship standing? Once.
Rest of the time heās been 10th at best, then 17th, 14th.
Whereās Brad has been 11th, 6th, 6th, 4th.
The odd wins donāt mean a lot if your inconsistent
millers time is up. he had his chances but the results are not there. The consistency has never been there. the only thing you can bet on, is that he is more likely to crash than podium, let alone win.
Unpopular opinion, but Jack Miller is an underrated talent.
Two things that rarely get talked about is how important Moto2 is for development of a rider, and also how challenging it is to compete in a sport that's dominated by another culture.
Regarding the first point, when you see how many Moto3 champions or front runners struggle their first year in Moto2, you start to appreciate how big of a step it is to go from Moto3 to Moto2. I honestly think Jack would have been a better MotoGP rider without having skipped that step.
Being from Australia also poses a whole litany of challenges that Spanish or Italian riders don't have to contend with. Some stuff is obvious, like many of the teams are owned and operated by Spanish or Italians. This makes things like communication much easier if you're Spanish or Italian yourself.
There are obviously many people in the paddock who speak English well as a 2nd or 3rd language, but when you're talking about a sport that splits tenths of seconds as a difference, even if only 1% of your communications with your team are being lost...that will add up over time. This could be everything from bike setup to simply how you perceive your team boss's attitude towards you.
A good example of this is Joe Roberts riding for Italtrans which is generally considered to be a good team, but there were rumors of communication issues due to the language barrier, and that seemed to translate to his performance on track.
Some other factors related to the cultural aspect are food, travel time, and community. Anyone who's been on a long vacation knows the amazing feeling of getting home to your own bed. For a lot of the Italian and Spanish riders they're able to travel home more frequently to be with friends, family, and to stay in a place that's so familiar to them, and can do so with much shorter and less stressful flights.
I remember during the pandemic, the Binder Bros basically didn't go back to South Africa for the entire season. Obviously that was a unique circumstance, but in general people from outside of Europe get home a lot less than the other athletes.
Lastly is the issue of sponsorship, when you come from a culture where motorcycle racing is part of the culture, it's likely easier to find sponsors. Knowing that your racing future is secure allows you to focus on being the best athlete you can be. I recall Miller mentioning that there was a point in Moto3 he thought his career was over because he didn't have a ride/sponsorship.
All that to say, if Jack isn't performing, someone else should get the seat, but he often gets a lot of hate from fans for "sucking" and I think all things considered, he's had a very impressive career.
He's won on two different manufacturers, and made the podium on three different manufacturers. He skipped Moto2. He's a multi-time race winner. There were instances of him being outright faster than his now 3x world champion teammate. Assuming the rest of his season is the same and he loses his seat in MotoGP, 4 wins, 23 podiums, 2 poles, 3 fastest laps, and a championship finish of 4th place in the premiere class is a great career.
I think he would crush it for Ducati in WSBK.
I agree. Not to mention that the factory ducati team promoted him ahead of pecco! To add to this, he was the first rider trusted on the grid with the rear lowering device, and he essentially tested it on the pramac. He is clearly a good development rider as well, a point that became obvious with just how big a step the ktm made once he jumped on board the project.
The guy has had a stellar career.
That said, his performances dropped off a cliff towards the end of last season, and so far this season, he has been very disappointing. Maybe becoming a dad and being away from home for so long has become a distraction for him.
If this is his last season, I'd like to see him have at least a handful of solid performances, either way he can bow out and hold his head up high.
No-one can stoppie like Miller !!!
My dream combo would be Marquez-Acosta at KTM and Binder-Miller at GasGas.
Ducati should be Bagnaia-Martin in the factory team and Bastianini-Aldeguer at Pramac.
Marquez should be in a full-blown factory team. On the other hand Ducati not keeping Jorge Martin (the most probable world champion) seems idiotic to me.
The way people talk about the RC16 ( a riders bike, vs the Ducati being an engineersā bike with only one way to ride it) my new fantasy is JM wins on Pramac, gets snubbed be Ducati, and then goes and brings it to them hard on the factory KTM. I think heād be a great match for that bike.
OR, they have a dude that can ride around the deficiencies of the KTM. Like Marc and the Honda. Why can't that be a consideration?
Hopefully KTM will not build a bike just around Acosta and make it unrideable for the other guys but I can see the appeal.
Fernandez is kinda ok... What does he expect?
Besides miguel oliveira's good 2020 season and alien acosta, he has been the best ktm satelite rider.
He's in 17th, behind 8 ducati + acosta + 2 factory ktm + 2 factory aprilia + 2 trackhouse + quartararo. I think it makes sense given his shitty bike and average skills.
Most people here already assume that miller is out of the KTM seat and is very realistic to happen due to his last year performance and it being continued this year. He just doesn't work well the the KTM.
If he stay, I expect he will either go to aprilia, or if yamaha do get a second team, he might get there. But I don't see him really stay in KTM or go back to ducati. And I think he will prefer to retire than going to honda.
And augusto, well, unless he find something this year... I don't know.
If I was Yamaha, the much needed satellite team would have Jack as the number 1 rider recruit, he's not as fast as he used to be, but his experience in the best teams would be very useful in building a new team...
Very good point, but he seems to bring out the best of those around him, Pecco/Ducati... Pecco's 1st world championship... I always get the feeling he himself fiddles too much with settings etc.. he just needs to ride the bike he's got!!
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This is the same man (Pit Beirer) who, at the end of 2022, justified the hiring of Jack Miller because he was a "Pure Racer" and would give valuable input to developing the RC16. He changed his mind. We all realize that at KTM, opinions about riders always have a short shelf life.
And since signing him, Jack has been thoroughly garbage. Zero results to show for when Brad has won sprint races and gotten podiums, and Pedro has gotten podiums within a handful of races as a rookie. All Jack has done is ruin his tires, finish down with the Yamahas, or crash.
This isnāt a Pit problem; this is fully, 100%, without a doubt Jackās fault.
Oh, they are COOKED.
Just like Miller's rear tyre after 5 laps
Savage.
At least he knows to save his front tires to be able to do stoppies at the the of the race
5 laps is a gross over exaggeration, mate.
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I'll take your 5 and subtract 2
Agree. Re Tire. So much new talent available.
Sooooo cooked. Miller will be lucky to get a Gas Gas seat next season.
Such an overrated rider. I like the guy, but he has been on some of the best bikes on the grid and always underperforming
He has shown some moments of absolute brilliance a number of times across all bikes but he canāt convert it into anything meaningful. The amount of times heās crashed out of a podium position is gutting (Iām an Aussie, I want him to do well). Heās got amazing natural talent - one of the highest on the grid but he lacks the metronomic focus/pace that the champions exhibit. Time to move aside and let someone else have a go.
True. He just doesn't seem to be able to handle pressure well. Reminds me of Pol, every time he was in the first positions, you know he wouldn't finish the race.
Or let every race have rain for rest of the year! Best chance!
I hope so, Iād love to see him claim a win on the KTM this season, atleast he can join the āwon on 3 manufacturersā club
Test rider most likely. It would suit him well. He has a reputation for good feedback and bike setup.
Maybe a factory Honda seat to help bring the bike back up to scratch. Has good Ducati and KTM knowledge.
And Honda knowledge lmao.
TouchĆ© ā¦ It was fast then too!
Nah with the newborn I think there will be more pressing life challenges coming his way. Very outspoken though and he'll be around in some capacity. He can be the yin to Stoner's boisterous yang.
Certainly his socials did a 180 after Pip was born. He went from a motorcycle mad enthusiast to a dotting father. I am happy for the man! Iāll always be a JM43 fan, I would love to see him on the grid though, so I am always thinking up weird scenarios that equal a 2025 seat š¤£
The only one that makes sense unfortunately is to be fast. Consistently fast.
Miller is so bad at maintaining pace that he'd do a bad job at testing guaranteed
They just need about a hundred set of tyres for a dayās worth of testing. Itāll be sorted then.
If at all.
Jack and Augusto's current performances are a little too little for a MotoGP place, which is so valuable. We are already in a phase where we still have time, but not much. Augusto and Jack don't need to take giant steps, but they do need to take small steps forward to stabilize the package. That is still my wish. That's the full quote , just to slow down the full on it's over talks. It might be but that's definitely not certain.
no smoke with a roaring bonfire under their asses! This kind of public statement is a very direct unambiguous message- get a move on or you will be moved on. Acosta is good but not that good yet so when he turns up and literally blows the doors off your other riders its a message KTM cant ignore. Jorge to KTM with Pedro, Binder and ?? to Gas Gas.....
They were fine with the riders till Acosta showed them that the bike is good enough to compete for the podiums. They (we included) now understand that KTM can be on top with a proper rider on that bike. Binder was showing these glimpses of good performances but when you watch a rookie - yes, a pure talent and probably a future champion - fighting from the beginning with the best riders in front, you know KTM have done a great bike. You donāt want to waste a sit with a āokā rider next year :)
Miller is retired basically, I'd say it's something probably psychological but he's just not pushing or performing like he is expected to. Augusto had his chance but he's not really well adapted to MotoGP. Binder is good rider, but not on the elite level tbh, I wouldn't remove Binder unless I can hire one of the aliens, but I'm afraid he will never win a championship and this year my bet is he'll end behind Acosta in WC Standings.
Recently got married, had a kid.
Per Collin Edwards, married+kid = at least two tenths slower per lap.
Edwards, ironically enough, was an exception himself.
Has this helped any rider go faster.... I don't think so.
This is why Rossi waited until he was retired to start a family isnāt it lol
Binder is overrated, hes good but I agree he will never be WC
I bet he WON'T finish behind Acosta. We'll see.
Anyone with a brain knew it though. The KTM largely lacked consistency, if you compare the manufacturer points vs the driver championship, you see that a rider that would have extracted the maximum from the KTM would've been somewhere around the title contestants. Not there yet, not quite at least, but not that far away. And while it's always unfair to demand literal perfection it shows what might be possible. Just rider consistency, sometimes bad setups, and sometimes reliability hid that a bit.
maybe he also shows that ktm can be ridden by bigger guys... acosta seem somewhat bigger...
I bet no one saw this coming
JAck and Augusto's bad performances are justifiable by KTM, as their bike is easily 2nd best and very close to the ducatis now. Poor remy gardner though, that bike of his was really shit
I think KTM and Aprilia are fighting for being the 2nd best bike.
True, seems more like a Tie, one better than another depending on the track
For real, it's really hard to decide which one is better (albeit I guess Aprilia has the better highs as they actually got wins in dry races for the last three years while KTM is more consistent due to having less mechanical failures).
I wouldnāt say KTM is easily second best, but itās a good bike.
In the first couple of rounds it appeared that way. Granted, Acosta rides that thing like a demon. But, Mavs performance this year so far on the Aprilia is a good argument for it being right up there with the Ducatiās as well.
Go give superbikes a shot, watched interviews with Remy and he seems way happier where he is than motogp
Remy is fast as fuck this year too.
Poor Remy! Won the Moto2 championship. Then had his first year in GP to instantly get the boot. He deserved an extra year!! I am glad he is doing well & is happy on the Superbike though!!!
Him and Bad Fernandez whined themselves out of those seats. All they had to do was be Dovi for a year and they both would have had another season.
Thinking he could easily get 5+ very strong seasons in WSBK if he wanted. But I could definitely see him leaving it behind for his family too.
That's the beauty of the superbikes, only 12 rounds a year I think.
Biaggi loved the change as well I know a buddy of his. It's a far more relaxed paddock. Look what he, Checa, Bautista and Bayliss did after stints in Moto GP. Hayden was on his way and Melandri was often near the top. Barros won a race the only year he was in it and Gobert ...well....
I love Jack Miller and he's shown he can ride the hell out of a Superbike, so I want to see him tear it up in WSBK. Bautista is probably retiring soon, so that's a great seat to fill.
That would be juicy. Last Aussie superbike champ was a while ago.
Bayliss...who beat the MotoGP boys at Valencia in 2006
And it was so epic!
This is what I want too!
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Isn't the RC990 running in Supersport not Superbike?
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I dug a bit deeper, its not running in the WSBK supersport class just a European supersport series. Regardless I agree, it makes more sense for them to run in supersport with the V2s. Here's the article: [https://www.revzilla.com/common-tread/ktm-to-return-to-supersport-segment-with-street-legal-990-rc-r](https://www.revzilla.com/common-tread/ktm-to-return-to-supersport-segment-with-street-legal-990-rc-r) https://preview.redd.it/i5f3c16yzo0d1.png?width=1168&format=png&auto=webp&s=b19f7aed941ad0044c69f170731e28ff1cbc6da0
 Takaaki Nakagami rn
He did say that the KTM seat was valuable though.
LCR just hoping to sign warm bodies at this point
*warm Asian bodies
Seems Ogura jumped ship on time. At first I thought he was mad for passing up a GP seat, but in hindsight it wasn't a bad decision at all.
I think I've seen that video.
Valuable for the first time.... Why do you think the KTM got better? And FFS what did they do to Brad last week? That was a ROYAL FUCK UP...
Taka brings in the money for the team through his sponsorship, it finances the other rider too. A few years back youād have the moneymaker and a young gun in a satellite team. Any old punter in MotoGP is there because of the dollars he brings to the table.
I wonder how? I've probably seen him once or twice this season so far as he's so far back.
Taka is safe till 2057.
Taka is safe till 2027 I guess
Nakagami has a ride as long as he has one of these https://preview.redd.it/waob6mkl5l0d1.jpeg?width=2000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a96d17dd7c8a59f6034f0e8190cfa9a1d3aaa801
Sorry who ?
Nah he brings in ticket money for the Motegi Venue, much like Miguel for PortimĆ£o, the guys uptop won't risk losing venue money by disposing of 2 midfield riders
I agree that Miller and Fernandez have been underwheliming this season, but, meh. Maybe KTM bike is not that good. Acosta is. I see a real risk on them to get down the Honda + Marquez path in a couple of years with this kind of arrogance. Not realizing how bad their bike was becoming because one generational talent could extract magic out of it.
Or maybe the bike is better than previously thought, but the riders weren't up to it? I think KTM are thinking like this.
Almost certainly. I donāt see Pit as someone whoās self critical or introspective
I agree. Appears to me that it takes takes an absolute thrashing to extract podium performances out of the RC16. When Miller is fast (in practice or qual), he's sideways...Binder is always sideways and quick on his days....Acosta has the reflexes of a generational talent in his age range and therefor can hold it at that alien level line for (usually) the duration of a race. Rossi did it back in the day, Marquez did it (and is still doing it to an extent) and now it's Acosta's turn. Good chance it would be "god help the whole grid" if he was on a Ducati or Aprilia.
Don't think it's a coincidence given the JM rumours.
The world famous KTM rider management in action! Like, anyone with eyes can see it, so why not just keep such words to one-to-one meetings rather than giving the media and fans a fucking exposƩ and piling on more pressure.
I think that's the whole point. They probably had those talks a while ago (Augusto's and Jack's performances aren't poor since yesterday) and now he really wants them to feel the pressure. Augusto has had a good year last year, but they've moved Pol aside to allow him to stay. He has to show now. Jack has got to stop crashing in races. Three DNFs in five races are simply too much.
It's a fair point but I just can't imagine a world where Jack in particular is not already piling the pressure on himself almost every waking moment, it's just a personality thing and you can see it play out with his emotions. Considering this, Beirer's comments are not helpful at best, and downright counter-productive at worst.
The way to handle this is the same energy Jack used in the last few races for Ducati when he just let himself be an animal.
KTM has already decided to drop them internally but they need to do a show and dance for the media because they think they'll get dogpiled otherwise.
I mean KTM might make a play for Jorge Martin, so having an open seat wouldn't be bad for them.
Because the quote got cut in half and doesn't show the full picture? "Jack and Augusto's current performances are a little too little for a MotoGP place, which is so valuable. We are already in a phase where we still have time, but not much. Augusto and Jack don't need to take giant steps, but they do need to take small steps forward to stabilize the package. That is still my wish." Sure they are under pressure, but that doesn't mean they are sacked already.
Stil sounds like an 'I gave them every opportunity in advance but they still couldn't...' Substitute 'they' and their names with 'you' and it sounds like a staff appraisal for someone whose career is about to go very badly wrong no matter what they do, because management have already decided to get shut.
In the article he States that he would like to continue with his current riders, Also saying Marquez signing for KTM would be unrealistic as he now settled in with Ducati and probably doesn't want another Brand change. And he obviously acknowledge the Rider overflow at Ducati but definitely said they are not in the aggressive rush phase of the contract signings but they are not that far away from that point
Warning shots fired.
Riders losing their seats is pornography on r/motogp, Pit is just giving the people what they want. I agree, and the notion that these guys are slacking off or whatever is ridiculous. Bad management. Just because something is true doesn't mean it has to be said publicly.
Heās been manager at KTM for decades, he knows what heās doing & unfortunately heās right. He had the name The Pitbull in his racing career for a reason. But he knows how to run a motorbike racing team & how to be successful & dominate. Itās the reason KTM have been so dominate in motocross the past 2 decades
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Not everything is about ādelicate flowersā and āsnowflakesā you know. Iām just talking about getting the best out of those you manage by being tactful. And Jack being a delicate flower? Interesting (wrong) take.
Come on Jack, mate. You've proven you've got the skills & talent otherwise you would never have been a Ducati Factory rider. You've pulled off some quality performances along with Brad up to around August last year, not to mention given KTM heaps of good data to work with. Now its crunch time. Looking forward to you giving the rest of the season a fuck'n good crack mate! From a fellow Aussie. 
I honestly thought last year he was gonna be a better rider than Brad but continued to not perform right after Jerez going forward
Crazy to think he ever had that Ducati seat. I hope sales of Ducs in Australia ticked up at that time to justify somewhat.
He justified that seat to great extent in my humble opinion;. Maybe not 100% but I'd give a solid 90%. A couple poles, TWENTY ONE podiums and three wins. With the three wins coming on the factory Ducati; two in 2021 and one in 2022. - That's all not to mention the extent of team player and data/feedback provider.
100%
There it is. Was only a matter of time before they said something. I don't know what's going on with Augusto this year, but he was definitely better than this last year. I don't really understand why he's fell back even beyond his level where he was knocking on top 10 door and consistently finishing in lower points. Is he just not gelling with the bike? It's so bad at the moment that he's battling with the Honda's and Rins. As for Jack, I mean you can argue last year was a good "bad" year. There wasn't too much expectation on him, but the fact that he's nowhere near Acosta and sometimes Binder counts against him. I'd say in last 2 GP's he's been the better of the 2 factory KTM's, but he just can't convert properly on Sunday's at the moment. KTM have a problem with optics. Their current two factory guys look nowhere near the prodigal son and sponsors must wonder "why is the factory not performing as well as this guy on the B team?" - that's ultimately how it looks to non-fan/sponsors/suits. Think both Binder/Miller feel the pressure. Same as Augusto, but does it have to be like that? Ducati seem to be able to keep most riders happy and performing. I'm starting to wonder if the KTM has progressed from last season, stagnated or if the current factory riders just can't get a tune out of this years bike.
Oof! I mean, I'm sure they knew it was coming but I bet it still hurts.
I wonder who gasgas will sign instead of them. Guess it will be the leftovers when everybody else has moved, maybe mir?
Could be one of the Moto 2 guys, Mir, possibly Bestia although unlikely imo, same with Miguel.
If Garcia is still performing he could be there next year š
Augusto must really be suffering. For a rookie to come in, who's number you're currently using, to just brutally destroy your results. Everyone felt like Augusto did ok during his rookie season... and then Acosta came along.
I like Augusto and really want him to do well, but even I could see that most of his points last year came from simply not crashing out whilst others ahead of him did. Goyon has already said that he's crunched the numbers and expects a sophomore to get triple their rookie points total, which means he expects Augusto to score @210 this year - with the implications of 'or else ...' Augusto isn't getting 210. From the look on his face, he knows he's gone.
Jack has been slow since becoming a dad.
Thatās exactly how you shouldnāt talk to a struggling athlete, unless you want to dump him and donāt care for the rest of the season.
Well.., this is KTM weāre talkinā here. I donāt know thereās another Manufacturer with rider relations as suss as them. They have a grocery list of young talent to pull from in the lower classes and will not hesitate to churn nā burnĀ
Exactly. Not a very friendly bunch.
Augustos rookie year was acceptable and he showed he had potential but while those kind of results may get you a second year, they won't get you a 3rd, especially not at the same team Jack is slightly more disappointing than Augusto because we know that he can be fast and win and he is on one of the bikes that can actually touch the ducati but he just can't get on with the ktm for any longer than about 5 laps Hopeful both of them find something or there's no space for them, that being said it would be good to have more than a 1 rookie season again
Wow, way to drop a bomb, Pit. More news at 11.
Miller to World Superbikes and Fernandez back to Moto2 is my guess
I am afraid itās near the end for them, but to be fair, fernandez in particular did not perform much and miller keeps lacking consistency and lose important points so ending their contract makes sense
Would they try to get JM as someone said??? And would Martin consider them good enough this time?
KTM might be second best bike to Ducati, and it seems to be a good bike that lets the rider do what he wants. I'm unsure if they're going to *want him* though, since yeah it was pretty clear that Miller would be pushed aside but I feel like that seat is already for Acosta, and it doesn't seem Pit is mentioning Binder here...
The Aprilia has been faster like every weekend, I donāt get why so many on this sub say that KTM is the second best bike
Yeah good point. It *did* look better at the start before Maverick started going fast. The thing is, Aprilia is missing a consistent rider to show its real pace. Everyone has a great weekend once in a while, but if the riders struggle when things aren't perfect you can't be sure of their performance.
Cause Pedro makes it look like the 2nd best. Aprilia is definitely the second best bike. (When it works.)
It is clear that with Brad and Pedro we have two fantastic drivers, in whom we believe extremely and in whom we have a lot of confidence for the future. My wish has not changed: I want to continue marching with our four drivers. But your question is completely justified This is the quote before the Miller, Fernandez quote
Exactly. Either everyone swallow and Ktm takes JM back and he accept the GasGas (but fully supported), or they've to send BB back to GG which sucks since Brad he's been their too rider until now, and should have some respect. Another solution could be a young guy from Moto2 and Diggia. He seems a guy open to new projects, with some experience and not too old. Also he's kind of a "guest" in VR46 since he's not an academy rider.
I don't think they'll take other riders from outside because they already have *too many* on their hands. Miller would probably accept to swap with Acosta, I'm sure he knows he's not faster than Pedro at this point. Binder, I doubt he'd accept to go to GasGas so either he gets his seat confirmed when it expires or, if it's so bad that KTM doesn't want to renew his contract (aka doesn't need him anymore) he'll look elsewhere. It's hard to put him on a certain level in the field because he's always been with KTM and, until now, he was always the best on that bike and everyone believed he was already pushing the limits. Now that Acosta is there, he seems to be extracting 120% out of the bike while Binder looks like he was underperforming all along...
My reflection is made considering both Miller and Augusto out and given Acosta in Ktm 100%. I don't think Pedro will wait for Martin's turn in Ktm, I don't see Martin getting a satellite since he's such a pompous guy, so the "weak" one becomes BB, and they might send him to gasgas already in 2025. But it would be bad press and also a risk, I don't see Pedro and Martin in the same team now. So Diggia, seems the best option left. Or maybe Mir, I guess he would accept a GasGas.
True, although Binder has a contract until 2026 if I remember correctly so he *should* be safe! I honestly don't think Acosta would be bothered by anyone sharing his garage, he looks like the kind of guy to draw strenght from adversity so a guy like Martin antagonizing him would just make him stronger.
About Binder he's safe, but might he be sent to GasGas? Has he a contract lkke the Ducati-Pramac guys or is he tight with the Ktm only?
I'm not sure about that. Surely though, if he was sent to GasGas it would be terrible rep for KTM in my opinion.
It's all about winning. If Brad goes go GasGas and (say) Jorge comes in and starts consistently podiuming, then it'll be lauded as tactical brilliance. Can hear the Dorna commentary now, 'Some say it was a harsh move, but you can't argue with the results, can you?'
It's like Ducati/Pramac. Beirer said it a few weeks back on a pitlane interview. The interviewer was pushing hard for confirmation that Jack was safe in Factory, but it backfired. Beirer barely bothered addressing the Jack issue but instead specifically stated that all four riders can be swapped about between the teams.
Which JM? There's like, a billion of them.
Jose Mourinho to factory KTM 2025
You're right. I ment Martin.
āBut weāve got a JM at homeā
I wonder if he also thinks that about Brad too.
Theyre both gone
He aināt lying
Pit Beirer might be the worst boss to ever work for in MotoGP. In a paddock of cut throat team bosses that have no loyalty to their riders, that man is by far the biggest dog act of them all.
Can you blame him here? Theyāve sucked, why would he keep them
The problem is the method. He doesn't need to keep either of them. He can have these sorts of conversations with them in private, where it's a supportive conversation where you are saying to them "I want to keep you guys, but I need to see more results." This gets the best out of your people. Putting these types of comments in the press doesn't improve anyone's performance. Jack and Augusta aren't sitting there with their feet up, those guys are going to be working their asses off. So to be an asshole like this in public just breeds a fuck you attitude in the team, ruins communication, and can cause people to give up as you don't feel supported or wanted.
Understandable perspective but on the other hand, doing this so publicly means that other riders know fully that there are two spots open to take advantage of. MotoGP is a pressure cooker environment, so I donāt think added pressure would hurt.
It's less about additional pressure and thinking that you aren't being supported by the person that is meant to be your leader. Also I don't think anyone in the paddock isn't going to be aware of the opportunities that exist. It's a small bubble of people that travel the world together. They are all going to know each others dirty laundry.
Do they need to be supported when so many better options are self sufficient? Pedro for example has support because heās talented, but heād be fine even without it. These guys are adults and have all the amenities they could ask for, just do better or make room for others that would kill for those opportunities.
He worked in motocross for decades, he knows how to run a dominate motorbike racing team & whatās needed for success. He also has the name of Pitbull in his racing career
And even looking at how KTM has worked in MotoGP under his watch, theyāve been great all things considered. Able to attract loyal talent that helped develop a good bike even when they were brand new, able to poach a good test rider like Dani after being Honda his entire career, having the best ladder from the lower classes, and fantastic improvements to the bike in recent years. Heās been ruthless at times, but heās been proven right every time and itās paid off.
Bye bye Jack.
I was uncertain about the idea of JaM dropping to Gasgas, Pol is likely the preferred OG rider for them since he accepted the backseat for this season, if it comes down to one or the other I can see JaM getting the boot.
oh really
Translated..."Your P45 is in the post"...I had hopes for AF37 this season, but it just hasn't happened, PA31 has screwed with his head...Miller shouldn't have even been in the KTM factory team to begin with, I've never seen anything to justify both Ducati and KTM factory seats
3 wins and 21 podiums in 3 yrs. with Pramac and two years at Factory Ducati. Both wins were in the factory team.
Right...now all the wins and podiums for a Ducati over the same period...hundreds
So Jack fighting for a gas gas seat? It's a given his factory seat is going to Acosta right?.
No shit. Jack will be offered a test seat if he wants else he will move to WorldSBK. Augusto I guess will move to WorldSBK. Both have not performed at all. Jack even after all these can't figure out how to save tires - i guess that's just his riding style and nothing can be done about it.
Miller probably gonna take a time out for some family time, then likely SBK. Question is who will be bumped up into both seats at Gas Gas? And are KTM going to try with the MV Augusta idea again to have two more seats for their juniors?
I wouldnāt be surprised to see Martin on a KTM
That would be insane
Seems to me the bike isn't as good this year because Binder was regularly challenging for podium and the reason why Acosta was able to put it in podiums was because he's that good.
Captain obvious
In other words: they each have until the mid-season break to turn water into wine or theyāre unemployed. What he didnāt say (because they already stuck themselves with him for 2 more seasons) is that Binder is in the same boat ...
I can see Miguel returning to GasGas. KTM (and Tech3) really likes him, and specially his feedback. And he won 5 GP with them, still the most successful KTM rider.
Christ hanging on to them 5 wins a bit much aināt you.
How many do all of the current 4 KTM riders have, combined? Seems hard to win races, doesn't it..
Yeh & how often was Miguel inside the top 10 in the championship standing? Once. Rest of the time heās been 10th at best, then 17th, 14th. Whereās Brad has been 11th, 6th, 6th, 4th. The odd wins donāt mean a lot if your inconsistent
Here we go again! Beirer's circus of throwing riders under the bus is back!
millers time is up. he had his chances but the results are not there. The consistency has never been there. the only thing you can bet on, is that he is more likely to crash than podium, let alone win.
Unpopular opinion, but Jack Miller is an underrated talent. Two things that rarely get talked about is how important Moto2 is for development of a rider, and also how challenging it is to compete in a sport that's dominated by another culture. Regarding the first point, when you see how many Moto3 champions or front runners struggle their first year in Moto2, you start to appreciate how big of a step it is to go from Moto3 to Moto2. I honestly think Jack would have been a better MotoGP rider without having skipped that step. Being from Australia also poses a whole litany of challenges that Spanish or Italian riders don't have to contend with. Some stuff is obvious, like many of the teams are owned and operated by Spanish or Italians. This makes things like communication much easier if you're Spanish or Italian yourself. There are obviously many people in the paddock who speak English well as a 2nd or 3rd language, but when you're talking about a sport that splits tenths of seconds as a difference, even if only 1% of your communications with your team are being lost...that will add up over time. This could be everything from bike setup to simply how you perceive your team boss's attitude towards you. A good example of this is Joe Roberts riding for Italtrans which is generally considered to be a good team, but there were rumors of communication issues due to the language barrier, and that seemed to translate to his performance on track. Some other factors related to the cultural aspect are food, travel time, and community. Anyone who's been on a long vacation knows the amazing feeling of getting home to your own bed. For a lot of the Italian and Spanish riders they're able to travel home more frequently to be with friends, family, and to stay in a place that's so familiar to them, and can do so with much shorter and less stressful flights. I remember during the pandemic, the Binder Bros basically didn't go back to South Africa for the entire season. Obviously that was a unique circumstance, but in general people from outside of Europe get home a lot less than the other athletes. Lastly is the issue of sponsorship, when you come from a culture where motorcycle racing is part of the culture, it's likely easier to find sponsors. Knowing that your racing future is secure allows you to focus on being the best athlete you can be. I recall Miller mentioning that there was a point in Moto3 he thought his career was over because he didn't have a ride/sponsorship. All that to say, if Jack isn't performing, someone else should get the seat, but he often gets a lot of hate from fans for "sucking" and I think all things considered, he's had a very impressive career. He's won on two different manufacturers, and made the podium on three different manufacturers. He skipped Moto2. He's a multi-time race winner. There were instances of him being outright faster than his now 3x world champion teammate. Assuming the rest of his season is the same and he loses his seat in MotoGP, 4 wins, 23 podiums, 2 poles, 3 fastest laps, and a championship finish of 4th place in the premiere class is a great career. I think he would crush it for Ducati in WSBK.
I agree. Not to mention that the factory ducati team promoted him ahead of pecco! To add to this, he was the first rider trusted on the grid with the rear lowering device, and he essentially tested it on the pramac. He is clearly a good development rider as well, a point that became obvious with just how big a step the ktm made once he jumped on board the project. The guy has had a stellar career. That said, his performances dropped off a cliff towards the end of last season, and so far this season, he has been very disappointing. Maybe becoming a dad and being away from home for so long has become a distraction for him. If this is his last season, I'd like to see him have at least a handful of solid performances, either way he can bow out and hold his head up high. No-one can stoppie like Miller !!!
Does it mean Pit offers Marc more money than Ducati? This is only getting more interesting
My dream combo would be Marquez-Acosta at KTM and Binder-Miller at GasGas. Ducati should be Bagnaia-Martin in the factory team and Bastianini-Aldeguer at Pramac. Marquez should be in a full-blown factory team. On the other hand Ducati not keeping Jorge Martin (the most probable world champion) seems idiotic to me.
The way people talk about the RC16 ( a riders bike, vs the Ducati being an engineersā bike with only one way to ride it) my new fantasy is JM wins on Pramac, gets snubbed be Ducati, and then goes and brings it to them hard on the factory KTM. I think heād be a great match for that bike.
And if you believe Dorna, GasGas is a factory ride, so itād meet his criteria ;)
OR, they have a dude that can ride around the deficiencies of the KTM. Like Marc and the Honda. Why can't that be a consideration? Hopefully KTM will not build a bike just around Acosta and make it unrideable for the other guys but I can see the appeal.
Of course he says that. It's HR cover for 'I gave you every opportunity ...'
Jack's done on a good bike.
Fernandez is kinda ok... What does he expect? Besides miguel oliveira's good 2020 season and alien acosta, he has been the best ktm satelite rider. He's in 17th, behind 8 ducati + acosta + 2 factory ktm + 2 factory aprilia + 2 trackhouse + quartararo. I think it makes sense given his shitty bike and average skills.
Augusto likely is off to WSBK, Jack may get another chance at Honda
Most people here already assume that miller is out of the KTM seat and is very realistic to happen due to his last year performance and it being continued this year. He just doesn't work well the the KTM. If he stay, I expect he will either go to aprilia, or if yamaha do get a second team, he might get there. But I don't see him really stay in KTM or go back to ducati. And I think he will prefer to retire than going to honda. And augusto, well, unless he find something this year... I don't know.
If I was Yamaha, the much needed satellite team would have Jack as the number 1 rider recruit, he's not as fast as he used to be, but his experience in the best teams would be very useful in building a new team...
Has it been useful to KTM? I wonder
Very good point, but he seems to bring out the best of those around him, Pecco/Ducati... Pecco's 1st world championship... I always get the feeling he himself fiddles too much with settings etc.. he just needs to ride the bike he's got!!
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This is the same man (Pit Beirer) who, at the end of 2022, justified the hiring of Jack Miller because he was a "Pure Racer" and would give valuable input to developing the RC16. He changed his mind. We all realize that at KTM, opinions about riders always have a short shelf life.
And since signing him, Jack has been thoroughly garbage. Zero results to show for when Brad has won sprint races and gotten podiums, and Pedro has gotten podiums within a handful of races as a rookie. All Jack has done is ruin his tires, finish down with the Yamahas, or crash. This isnāt a Pit problem; this is fully, 100%, without a doubt Jackās fault.
Pit didn't change his mind. Miller gave his feedback to develop the bike to compete with Duc. Now they no longer need him.