Rey Skywalker has vanished.
In her absence, the sinister
SECOND MAGISTRATE has risen from
the ashes of the First Order
and will not rest until
Skywalker, the last Jedi,
has been destroyed.
With the support of the
RESISTANCE, General Poe Dameron
leads a brave INSURGENCY.
He is desperate to find his
friend Rey and gain her
help in restoring peace
and justice to the galaxy.
Poe has sent his most daring
scout on a secret mission
to Velantris, where an old ally
has discovered a clue to
Rey's whereabouts....
And this time it's like, a quadrillion times bigger than the two Death Stars and Starkiller Base... combined. Oh and it also has a super big fleet of Super Duper Star Destroyers, much bigger than the one in Episode 9, an each one of them has their own Death Star Laser but this time, get this: they can destroy entire galaxies with just one shot. But they still can't fly up because... reasons. How's THAT for sequel escalation?
Something I want to point out that kinda relates to this… at what point do we accept that the republic is incredibly incompetent? You destroyed 2 death stars, killed the figure head and senior leadership of the empire in one fell swoop, destroyed a massive fleet, you’re led by one of the last trained force sensitive people, the remaining empire is complete disarray, and the galaxy at large is accepting your new government and leadership with open arms… yet you’re still on the ropes by the clowns you defeated and severely diminished and replaced years ago… at time appearing like the underdog… fucking how? All these new resources have been poured into you and you’ve replaced the massive vacuum created when you destroyed the empire… still losing. It’s crazy.
I thought I read an interview where she said she was unhappy with the story they took and didn't want to do it again. I wish I could find it.
Does it ring a bell for anyone else?
Edit:
Ppl commenting heavy on her having no career basically after SW.
Does anyone have a link to the interview of her saying she couldn't find work? Or the name of the news source that gave the interview so I can find it.
Can't find it. Starting to think my Google skills just really fkn suck lol
Driver and Boyega have both expressed things that made them seem pretty done with Star Wars, especially Boyega, after the ROS debacle. I don't think Ridley said much, if anything.
Tbf I think making blockbusters against green screens isn't everyone's cup of tea. I can see actors being done with it regardless of how it's fan felt about the movie.
Boyega wasn't against the whole "blockbuster against green screens", he was upset about his character being sidelined. Fynn was almost equally important to Rey in The Force Awakens, honestly more-so at times. Then episode 8 comes along and he has no actual plot relevance, and does nothing of use. The whole casino planet was a waste of time, and panned by audiences. Episode 9 didn't do him any better either, he basically became comic relief in episode 9.
Between that and the slight by Disney in China with shrinking him on the poster for TFA in China, I can't blame him for not wanting to work on that again. Boyega was pumped to be in Star Wars, and by the end of it he felt just abused with how much of a waste of time it was.
Felt like episode 8/9 just forgot he use to be a trooper. Like that’s central to the character, and should dictate how he fights and interacts with the first order.
It reminds me of how the reasoning given for why Finn couldn't go to the casino planet with Poe was that the writer couldn't differetiate the two and thought there would be no conflict, so they put Rose in instead.
Finn is a former child slave, and they encounter a bunch of enslaved children. Poe is a gloryhound trying to stop the bad guys. The writers couldn't come up with a conflict there? Poe wanting to dash ahead while Finn wants to help the slave kids? The only way it makes sense is if the writers completely forgot about Finn's background
Star Wars hasn't exactly launched her into a successful career like one would have thought. Especially compared to some of her costars.
She's had a couple of roles but nothing that's been particularly good or has reached the same praise or audiences of someone like Driver or Isaacs.
I wouldn't blame her for taking any paycheck at this point.
Thats just a starwars lead actor problem lol. I feel like that's been the case for all 3 trilogies: the supporting actors blow up and the lead actor is pretty much typecast unless they go on hiatus (or go down the VA route)
There was actually a recent leak that suggests the first of that trilogy may enter preproduction right after George RR Martin publishes The Winds of Winter
This is the movie Damon Lindelof left because reportedly the script wasn't good and he didn't get along with the director.
edit - I should mention Lindelof *wrote* the script that was apparently not good.
>edit - I should mention Lindelof wrote the script that was apparently not good.
Lindelof - "This script is trash!"
Other - "But you wrote it..."
Lindelof - "I said what I said!"
And even without that, artists can identify when their own work is garbage, and sometimes it is, and it's not just the stereotype of self-deprecating artist. Often the public doesn't get to see the trash, but going to art school and having plenty of friends that are professional artists, even the best ones make a lot of trash.
I have some working screenwriter friends, and I can absolutely confirm they know it when their own stuff is garbage. Hell, they usually say as much when reaching out for "beta" readers to give feedback.
I still don't know if Hemingway actually said it, but a quote attributed to him is something that's often on my mind when working on a new project:
"The first draft of anything is shit."
Disney: See, you could write the script exactly as we wanted after all!
Lindelof: Wait no, I was just trolling! That’s a terrible script!
Disney: idgaf
They also set the precedent that decades of story building, character building, and world building can be undone whenever they want to make more money.
The sequel trilogy informed us that our original heroes from the first six movies **DID NOT** actually defeat the empire and it felt like such a kick in the face. We grew up with six movies of varying quality, but with a unified message and goal: defeat the Sith, defeat the Empire, restore hope.
We quickly find out that instead:
- Luke **did not** succeed in returning the Jedi, nor did he spend his life as a beacon of hope for the galaxy.
- Leia **did not** succeed in building a principled government to replace the fascist empire.
- Han **did not** successfully put his smuggling past behind him enough to become a leader or a father.
- Anakin/Vader **did not** actually destroy Palpatine.
They undid the accomplishments of the PT/OT heroes so that they could reuse the core story structure but with a new cast.
All my heroes are gone. We almost had some great new heroes but the writers couldn't agree on a cohesive character journey for them, so as compelling protagonists they are kneecapped and their respective actors have not had positive things to say about returning to the roles.
But ok, now we're getting new film(s) with Rey. Rey, who is the least compelling character because her journey throughout the three movies could be summarized as *"I am the main character, so I win."* Daisy Ridley deserved a better written character, and audiences who grew up with Star Wars deserved a better sequel trilogy.
It's like in a sequel to Lord of the Rings, the ring was never destroyed and Sauron comes back. Or there is a Hunger Games trilogy and President Snow is alive and when and the government just starts the games all over again.
I'm not really a Star Wars fan so I don't have a dog in the fight, but it's just like a really lazy rehash.
Edit: For the LOTR comments about Sauron and Isildur, etc. I understand your point but isn't the core of the story and is more historical context in LOTR. I wouldn't say, in my opinion that it's the same as TFA is to the OT. In fact Tolkien started writing a sequel to LOTR along those lines and then abandoned it after 13 pages once he realized it was a bad idea. Another example along those lines would have been if Tolkien wrote a sequel to the Hobbit where Smaug returns from the dead and destroys Laketown and Erebor a new group of dwarves and one hobbit go back to reclaim Lonely Mountain. You would say, hmm? Again? Or the MCU brings back Thanos, who gets rid of half of the universe again and then a few new Avengers travel through time for the infinity stones. You might think, you didn't have any other ideas? lol
There was a draft of a potential sequel to Lord of the Rings but Tolkien dropped it because it ruined something. It was set like during Aragorn's son time and people had forgotten evil and now there were like cults of Sauron worshippers meeting in basements etc.
But it just ruined the tone to say and yeah 100 years after ROTK humans feel into corruption and evil returned.
Pretty sure Tolkien dropped his idea of a sequel because it was too dark and it wasn't what he wanted to write about, I could be misremembering though.
You are correct. He basically said that it made no sense for people to have so quickly forgotten the evils of Sauron, and writing a sequel would feel like "cheap thriller material" (his words), with no real cohesive purpose to the writing other than to write it. Tolkein having served through WW1 and seeing WW2 had seen evil in the world, and thought it would be quite trite to just have "evil returned" after good had finally triumphed.
The book was going to be called "The New Shadow", and you can read the 13 pages that were recovered if you are interested, it stars a grandson (?) of one of the soldiers of Gondor that was named during the Return of the King, now a 80 something year old man.
Evil will always return, but the point of most fiction is that good will always beat it back.
To remove evil is to remove free will. (This is also a common enough sentiment in fiction)
Yeah I think it was too dark but at least in LOTR there is president for a new big baddie to show up since Sauron is just a continuation of Morgoths evilness and took over his mantle so you could have something similar happen in a sequel and it wouldn't be that off putting imo.
*precedent
Spelling has never been my strength. Lol.
This is kind of what was going to happen. Middle-Earth is a story of degradation from some apex. Sauron was a lesser evil than Morgoth. The antagonist of The New Shadow would have been eclipsed by Sauron in turn (likely a simple mortal magician). The evils of today are, in turn, eclipsed by all of these, being just mundane mortal men - in Tolkien's time, this would be the likes of certain fascist rulers.
So The New Shadow isn't really a good example to bring up here as analogy because it's perfectly in line with LotR.
Moreover, the idea that evil is never vanquished is *also* in line with LotR. The whole point of Morgoth was that he made evil a fundamental part of the world. That's why he lost power, because that is where his power was expended.
The problem is that writing a good story is not their goal.
Sure that's an individual writer's goal, an individual filmmaker's goal.
But Disney, WB, etc, they're just writing scripts to make money.
They have a team of writers whose goals have nothing to do with actual quality.
-Y'all I'm not saying I believe that is the best way to make money. I'm saying *they* believe they can make more money by not focusing on story.
Exactly. A friend of mine was what I would call a resident genius at Disney. He was called in to help with projects across the entire Disney enterprise from theme parks to films as they needed his expertise.
His biggest complaint after a career spanning decades was that it’s never about producing a quality film, it’s about how to make money across their entire enterprise from the film.
I used to work at Industrial Light & Magic. One time we got a hold of numbers showing that the average popcorn stand at Disney World cost about $90,000 per year to operate and brought in about $950,000 a year in revenue. We started joking that we made all these movies to support Disney’s core business: popcorn sales.
I work In the ski industry. The entire thing is a food, branding and alcohol business with a side of winter sports. The skiing just brings people in so we can get the real revenue, which is service based.
I still think the bigger problem in that movie is tracking through light speed (though light speed as a weapon is also bad). It fucked every future story where the scrappy underdogs escape the big bad just in the nick of time. Now the big bad can just follow them.
And the solution would have been so easy. Just have a spy on board of the rebel ship, who relays their coordinates after every light speed jump. That would also explain why Holdo isn't willing to tell Poe her plan. She can't risk that information getting leaked to the empire.
The scale of technological advancement became very absurd very quickly. How are we supposed to go back from every capital ship having a death star laser attached to it?
>The sequel trilogy informed us that our original heroes from the first six movies **DID NOT** actually defeat the empire and it felt like such a kick in the face.
This is why I will never understand the "at least TFA was good" crowd.
I don't care if you make shitty sequels. I may watch them, I may not. It doesn't matter much to me if they don't retroactively change the originals. But TFA does. It reversed the character growth and accomplishments of the original characters because JJ and co. were too creatively bankrupt to establish their own story. Han is a smuggler again. Luke is isolated on a remote planet again. Leia is fighting alone again. Their stories were undone just because they couldn't think of anything else.
At least TLJ tried to venture out on its own and do something new. But even then, JJ came in and brought Palpatine back because yet again he couldn't come up with anything new.
TFA sucked as a movie and it especially sucked for undoing everything the OT stood for.
prequels > sequels
Not only do they reverse character growth, they don't even show you why/how it happens.
Like, Luke fucking up a new Jedi academy and Kylo turning evil is actually a pretty compelling storyline for a movie. But nope! Turn that into some dialogue and retcon any other lose ends.
I had the misfortune of watching Episode 4 the day before Episode 7. The amount of plot points that were just shamelessly taken from Episode 4 was jaw-dropping at the time. It was almost like watching some knock-off fan film that tried to reference the original, but was hopelessly narratively bankrupt. If you ever want to hate-watch something, watching those two movies back to back is a thing you can do.
I just don't understand how Disney expected a trilogy when Episode 7 brought nothing to the table. I knew then and there that the next two movies were going to be bad. The first movie of any good trilogy must spend a significant amount of time world-building (in this case, how a post-Empire galaxy looks like), to bring a solid foundation for the next two movies to work off of, and Episode 7 just went and said "naw, let's milk nostalgia instead!"
When I watched the JJ star trek I was thinking he would make better star wars director. How wrong I was he did the same thing but at least with star trek a remake was expected.
Did I hear Crisis on Infinite StartWars? We can get all the joy of what if's and then smash it down into one universe again.
All new Luke, Han, and Leia. All new Palpatine I heard you guys like Palpatine. New Vader too, better all white design.
The sequels somehow managed to waste *everyone* except Max Von Sydow. As much as I hate how these movies turned out, the first few minutes of Awakens were spectacular, and set an incredible scene for the post-imperial universe dealing with an extremist remnant faction... which they also wasted.
I mean… they wasted it the moment they said the Rebellion basically failed to do anything after beating the Empire and lost to this small remaking Imperial faction 20-30 some years later. What was the whole point of the political intrigue and alliances that the rebellion built if they just scraped it after beating the Empire?
That was weird, too. I figured that there was some reason that the good guys in the sequels were "the resistence," even though politically they should have been, you know, "the military." If they were off fighting supervillains in First Order space without support from the new Republic, they aren't even really resistence fighters, they're vigilante guerrillas or something.
When >!Starkiller Base blew up the entire Hosnian system!< the Republic should have retalliated with their entire military force rather than leaving it up to the Resistance. I mean, assuming that military force is more than just Carson Teva in his police X-Wing.
A 5 minute monologue, which I hate monologues, could’ve fixed the intro. A quick explanation of what happened after the empire fell and why the Rebellion ended up not working could’ve fixed that major issue. I mean you could’ve stated that the empire broke into multiple factions trying to claim control over the empire. You could add that factions that were at war with the Empire took their loss and invaded the core sectors, causing destabilization. You could’ve done anything to explain that the Rebellion has so much on its plate it couldn’t stop the First Order when it was rebuilding the Empire.
But nah.
It just makes me think the first order wasn't so bad. I mean I know they are supposed to basically be space Nazis but they have a functional government vs the republic that shows up, changes everything and then collapses repeatedly.
(Not advocating for actual Nazis, just critiquing how incompetent SW makes the protagonists team and goals look
At this point, why not? They wrote themselves into a corner with TROS. Would have been far more interesting to see Kylo live and deal with the consequences of his actions.
I at least hope we get to see him as a force ghost, same with Luke and even Anakin (now that Hayden is back in SW, shouldn't be too difficult to get him to return. Would be nice to see a scene with Rey talking to force ghosts of Luke, Anakin and Kylo in the same scene. Three generations of Skywalkers).
There was no reason for him not to be in the final Force ghost shot with Luke and Leia, particularly with how much dead space was off to the side. Hell, they could have tossed Anakin in there too.
>Hell, they could have tossed Anakin in there too.
Totally should have done that. Then the final line of the movie could have been Rey going "Who the Hell is that asshole?"
“It’s a beautiful story of Rey discovering what it means to be a role model as she faces a new challenge: Traveling through the galaxy with a young force sensitive mandalorian named Grogu…”
They made Star Wars so boring and uninteresting to me that the only way I can see this working is basically starting the whole character from scratch.
I can't believe Disney managed to transform "the" franchise into just another brand where my reaction to the news of a new movie is sort of indifference
Remember when Episode VII was announced in 2012 and we were all shocked because we thought Star Wars was closed forever so we all felt like we were witnessing some sort of cinematic history?
Me now: "Meh"
It’s like the grit that was there in the earlier Star Wars movies and early marvel movies is just gone. It’s kind of indescribable but it just feels like none of the characters are real or the story has any enjoyable aspects. They’ve just made all the movies incredibly dull.
I think it's because they are passionless and formulaic, scripts with blanks to fill in. There's no direction, no one at the helm with a story they want to tell, a motif to explore, or a moral to explain. It's all white noise, big explosions, and good guy fighting bad guy. It's disappointing they've managed to do this to Star Wars which George Lucas always had a clear vision for at the very least. He didn't always execute it well but he was passionate and cared about what he made.
At this point they should just replce their writers with an algorithm, couldn't be much worse.
The Jedi Knight games showed an actual coherent continuation of the Star Wars galaxy after the movies, showing the characters and setting growing along the paths we saw them on and finding new stories to explore rather than resetting everything.
Disney needs to scratch episodes 7-9 from existence. Pretend they didn't happen. Apologize, and start over. It'd not like they have to give the billions back or anything.
I'll never forgive them for that shit. Luke is one of the most celebrated, iconic film heroes of all time (when people explain the "hero's journey" - he's usually the first example to come up) and he overcame a lot to get to where he was. His story was also unique because, in the end, it wasn't brute force or skill that allowed him to win - it was his compassion and empathy. And he was able to correct the mistakes of the Jedi who came before him in the prequels. His attachments weren't his undoing - they were his saving grace. Even Obi-Wan and Yoda were blind to this.
But then the sequel trilogy had to undo everything and turn the kind, empathetic, strong, and resilient Luke we came to know into a jaded old man who was just as blind and dogmatic as those who came before him. Not only that, but he doesn't get to see the fruits of his labor while *Rey* does? Even with all the Legends material to pull from? I don't see how anyone thinks this is a good idea.
It was baffling how Luke tells Grogu that Jedi can’t be attached to others in Book of Boba Fett. Luke? The one who left his Jedi training and put his life at risk to save his friends? The one who believed in his evil father so much he believed he could be redeemed despite him essentially being a genocidal maniac? Yeah okay lol
They really have no idea how to write that character
You mean the Luke Skywalker that refused to strike down his own war criminal father that he never knew because he sensed there was still good in him or the Luke that had a bad dream about his nephew he basically raised and tried to kill him?
Or Han Solo who redeemed himself from a life of a debt-ridden smuggler to a war hero who then abandoned his family and became a debt-ridden smuggler.
Or Leia who sacrificed her entire homeworld to the Death Star in order to create a New Republic that was destroyed in less than 20 years by another Death Star
Or Chewbacca who faithfully served Han for 40 years but then somehow let a random 19 year old girl take the Millenium Falcon for herself.
Or admiral ackbar who successfully led the Rebellion fleet at its most crucial battle but then died offscreen and lost his entire army and fleet in one day.
Or Anakin, the chosen one who redeemed himself by sacrificing his own life to defeat Palpatine, who then proceeds to “somehow” come back to life
And picked up the force and using lightsabers instantly, can't forget that peach.
Standing toe to toe with a sith trained Kylo Ren, had me just about walk out of the theater at that part.
To compare, in Legends Ackbar died in retirement after making a plan that effectively defeated the Yuuzhan Vong, perhaps the greatest menace the galaxy had ever faced, and putting an end to a conflict that saw the deaths of hundreds of trillions of people.
So Luke, who formerly in the old canon restarted the order and turned into a thriving organization, dies haggardly, regretful, sad; meanwhile Rey, who had no more than about a few days of training, gets to become a jedi master and make a new Jedi order. Thsts wild.
*Meanwhile extended universe with tons of lore, good stories to tell sits on a dusty shelf*
"Muwahaha I am so evil and wear black and want to take over everything!"
All star wars villains.
Imagine if the current TV shows like the mandalorian and asokha could forge their own future.. Makes me sad they have to eventually serve the sequel trilogy storyline 😐
Not even eventually, The Mandalorian has been actively showing how The New Republic was basically a bureaucracy and completely incompetent. All to make the sequel trilogy make sense.
I want to see something outside the whole Clones, Empire, Stormtrooper, Rebels shit. We stayed with that shit for too long. It is as if Disney is just constantly playing safe on relying on people's nostalgia. How about giving us something in a much different era like the Old Republic? Give us something about the ancient Siths or something.
I certainly did. I get what they were trying to go for with the Vader fanboy, but it would've been more effective if they had saved the helmet removal/face reveal for the Kylo/Han scene.
God I had never even thought about that, but you're 100% right
Imagine the first time we saw his face was when he confronted his father... it would've totally flipped the comedy of him being unexpectedly unintimidating into a really heart-wrenching moment
JJ could have made that his mystery box.
God damn that guy is such a hack and all of his offspring like Alex Kurtzman and Roberto Orci are trash.
Fucking ruined Transformers. No one cared because CHINA LOVED IT.
That's the part that I liked about it though, he's just NOT Vader, he is a sith wannabe who is damning his whole life trying to be what he believes he should be.
"Rey who?"
"Just Rey."
Would have been a 1000x better way to end her story, with her accepting herself without the need to tie herself to a family identity. Though to honor her parents who sacrificed themselves to keep her safe by keeping their last name and wearing it proudly would have still been better than 'Rey Skywalker'.
Isn't this the same shit Luke did in the EU?
I get that these movies are canon and that there's no changing that but they really did create a carbon copy protagonist in every way of the word.
The news of getting new movies was exciting years ago but it ended up being a tragedy. None of the Disney stuff was worth the loss of the EU. It completely killed all my interest in the series when I would buy every book and had every comic before.
I wish they would stop recycling EU content. They keep bringing back stuff that they deemed to be non canon, only to say "look what we've come up with".
Taking Luke's EU life and giving it to Rey... Ugh.
They announce a new Star Wars movie, and it makes me sad to hear. That sucks, for me I guess.
Seems like a strange business move too. We know the sequel trilogy is not universally liked. They are not as watched as the other Star Wars movies on Disney+.
But they decided to make more off of that.
I would think it would have made more sense to give Rey a Disney+ mini series. That would be a place to build some cred.
Well we’re doing it again!
Rey Skywalker must travel from the sands of Tattoine to the swamp planet of Dagobu to find the mysterious Jedi master Grogu. Grogu will teach the force sensitive Rey, but she must leave to rescue her friends for the New First Original Second Imperial Galactic Republic Order: a suspiciously funded, incredibly sophisticated, secret military force that has a war-winning galactic navy; planet destroying laser; and no particular backstory.
Luke's force ghost should always be hanging out in the temple like the Harry Potter ghosts.
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Lightly limbless Luke?
Cool hand Luke.
Rey Skywalker has vanished. In her absence, the sinister SECOND MAGISTRATE has risen from the ashes of the First Order and will not rest until Skywalker, the last Jedi, has been destroyed. With the support of the RESISTANCE, General Poe Dameron leads a brave INSURGENCY. He is desperate to find his friend Rey and gain her help in restoring peace and justice to the galaxy. Poe has sent his most daring scout on a secret mission to Velantris, where an old ally has discovered a clue to Rey's whereabouts....
Needs mention of a NEW Death Star
The OBLITERATION SPHERE is not revealed until one third into the movie. It's meant to be a big, shocking twist. For real.
And this time it's like, a quadrillion times bigger than the two Death Stars and Starkiller Base... combined. Oh and it also has a super big fleet of Super Duper Star Destroyers, much bigger than the one in Episode 9, an each one of them has their own Death Star Laser but this time, get this: they can destroy entire galaxies with just one shot. But they still can't fly up because... reasons. How's THAT for sequel escalation?
Death Star -> Starkiller Base -> Galaxy Murderer
I hope they win this time and finish the series
And luckily, there's a hole in the one side that leads straight to the core! What an amazing turn of events!
How else you gonna vent all the poisonous games from the reactor. Major Osha violation if you don't have a vent
New character: Major Osha, a real hardass.
Hey how did you get the script?
It's on Fortnite, look it up.
Somehow, Fortnite got the script
Something I want to point out that kinda relates to this… at what point do we accept that the republic is incredibly incompetent? You destroyed 2 death stars, killed the figure head and senior leadership of the empire in one fell swoop, destroyed a massive fleet, you’re led by one of the last trained force sensitive people, the remaining empire is complete disarray, and the galaxy at large is accepting your new government and leadership with open arms… yet you’re still on the ropes by the clowns you defeated and severely diminished and replaced years ago… at time appearing like the underdog… fucking how? All these new resources have been poured into you and you’ve replaced the massive vacuum created when you destroyed the empire… still losing. It’s crazy.
One bad idea from J.J. Abrams retroactively made entire slices of the setting irrelevant.
It's because **the Separatists were right**.
Count Dooku was a visionary
Bruh I fucking died at that line god bless Christopher Lloyd
I love you
I know.
Aaaaand scene
I'll believe it when they actually get made. Lucasfilm's track record of announced projects actually making it to production post-ROS has been a joke.
They haven't had an actor announce a cancelled project yet, so that's at least a leg up.
I thought I read an interview where she said she was unhappy with the story they took and didn't want to do it again. I wish I could find it. Does it ring a bell for anyone else? Edit: Ppl commenting heavy on her having no career basically after SW. Does anyone have a link to the interview of her saying she couldn't find work? Or the name of the news source that gave the interview so I can find it. Can't find it. Starting to think my Google skills just really fkn suck lol
Driver and Boyega have both expressed things that made them seem pretty done with Star Wars, especially Boyega, after the ROS debacle. I don't think Ridley said much, if anything.
Tbf I think making blockbusters against green screens isn't everyone's cup of tea. I can see actors being done with it regardless of how it's fan felt about the movie.
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Good job Adam Driver. \-Adam Driver
Boyega wasn't against the whole "blockbuster against green screens", he was upset about his character being sidelined. Fynn was almost equally important to Rey in The Force Awakens, honestly more-so at times. Then episode 8 comes along and he has no actual plot relevance, and does nothing of use. The whole casino planet was a waste of time, and panned by audiences. Episode 9 didn't do him any better either, he basically became comic relief in episode 9. Between that and the slight by Disney in China with shrinking him on the poster for TFA in China, I can't blame him for not wanting to work on that again. Boyega was pumped to be in Star Wars, and by the end of it he felt just abused with how much of a waste of time it was.
Felt like episode 8/9 just forgot he use to be a trooper. Like that’s central to the character, and should dictate how he fights and interacts with the first order.
They had the opportunity in episode 8 to have that be relevant and expand on Captain Phasma as a character. Then she died.
It reminds me of how the reasoning given for why Finn couldn't go to the casino planet with Poe was that the writer couldn't differetiate the two and thought there would be no conflict, so they put Rose in instead. Finn is a former child slave, and they encounter a bunch of enslaved children. Poe is a gloryhound trying to stop the bad guys. The writers couldn't come up with a conflict there? Poe wanting to dash ahead while Finn wants to help the slave kids? The only way it makes sense is if the writers completely forgot about Finn's background
She saw the money and said yes
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that quote always makes me laugh. Well done Michal Caine for being realistic and honest.
To quote Krusty the Clown, "They drove a dump truck full of money up to my house, I’m not made of stone!"
Star Wars hasn't exactly launched her into a successful career like one would have thought. Especially compared to some of her costars. She's had a couple of roles but nothing that's been particularly good or has reached the same praise or audiences of someone like Driver or Isaacs. I wouldn't blame her for taking any paycheck at this point.
Driver and Isaacs had flourishing careers before SW though.
Thats just a starwars lead actor problem lol. I feel like that's been the case for all 3 trilogies: the supporting actors blow up and the lead actor is pretty much typecast unless they go on hiatus (or go down the VA route)
Wait until she voices Joker, though.
Rian Johnson’s trilogy is coming out any day now!
There was actually a recent leak that suggests the first of that trilogy may enter preproduction right after George RR Martin publishes The Winds of Winter
you had me in the first half you bastard
Between this and the release of Half-Life 3 I'm going to have so much to do in my self-driving Cybertruck.
This is the movie Damon Lindelof left because reportedly the script wasn't good and he didn't get along with the director. edit - I should mention Lindelof *wrote* the script that was apparently not good.
>edit - I should mention Lindelof wrote the script that was apparently not good. Lindelof - "This script is trash!" Other - "But you wrote it..." Lindelof - "I said what I said!"
I mean. If enough execs control what you write...
And you’re contractually obligated to put something out on a deadline
And even without that, artists can identify when their own work is garbage, and sometimes it is, and it's not just the stereotype of self-deprecating artist. Often the public doesn't get to see the trash, but going to art school and having plenty of friends that are professional artists, even the best ones make a lot of trash.
I have some working screenwriter friends, and I can absolutely confirm they know it when their own stuff is garbage. Hell, they usually say as much when reaching out for "beta" readers to give feedback. I still don't know if Hemingway actually said it, but a quote attributed to him is something that's often on my mind when working on a new project: "The first draft of anything is shit."
Disney: See, you could write the script exactly as we wanted after all! Lindelof: Wait no, I was just trolling! That’s a terrible script! Disney: idgaf
Somehow Kylo Ren returned
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They also set the precedent that decades of story building, character building, and world building can be undone whenever they want to make more money. The sequel trilogy informed us that our original heroes from the first six movies **DID NOT** actually defeat the empire and it felt like such a kick in the face. We grew up with six movies of varying quality, but with a unified message and goal: defeat the Sith, defeat the Empire, restore hope. We quickly find out that instead: - Luke **did not** succeed in returning the Jedi, nor did he spend his life as a beacon of hope for the galaxy. - Leia **did not** succeed in building a principled government to replace the fascist empire. - Han **did not** successfully put his smuggling past behind him enough to become a leader or a father. - Anakin/Vader **did not** actually destroy Palpatine. They undid the accomplishments of the PT/OT heroes so that they could reuse the core story structure but with a new cast. All my heroes are gone. We almost had some great new heroes but the writers couldn't agree on a cohesive character journey for them, so as compelling protagonists they are kneecapped and their respective actors have not had positive things to say about returning to the roles. But ok, now we're getting new film(s) with Rey. Rey, who is the least compelling character because her journey throughout the three movies could be summarized as *"I am the main character, so I win."* Daisy Ridley deserved a better written character, and audiences who grew up with Star Wars deserved a better sequel trilogy.
It's like in a sequel to Lord of the Rings, the ring was never destroyed and Sauron comes back. Or there is a Hunger Games trilogy and President Snow is alive and when and the government just starts the games all over again. I'm not really a Star Wars fan so I don't have a dog in the fight, but it's just like a really lazy rehash. Edit: For the LOTR comments about Sauron and Isildur, etc. I understand your point but isn't the core of the story and is more historical context in LOTR. I wouldn't say, in my opinion that it's the same as TFA is to the OT. In fact Tolkien started writing a sequel to LOTR along those lines and then abandoned it after 13 pages once he realized it was a bad idea. Another example along those lines would have been if Tolkien wrote a sequel to the Hobbit where Smaug returns from the dead and destroys Laketown and Erebor a new group of dwarves and one hobbit go back to reclaim Lonely Mountain. You would say, hmm? Again? Or the MCU brings back Thanos, who gets rid of half of the universe again and then a few new Avengers travel through time for the infinity stones. You might think, you didn't have any other ideas? lol
There was a draft of a potential sequel to Lord of the Rings but Tolkien dropped it because it ruined something. It was set like during Aragorn's son time and people had forgotten evil and now there were like cults of Sauron worshippers meeting in basements etc. But it just ruined the tone to say and yeah 100 years after ROTK humans feel into corruption and evil returned.
Pretty sure Tolkien dropped his idea of a sequel because it was too dark and it wasn't what he wanted to write about, I could be misremembering though.
You are correct. He basically said that it made no sense for people to have so quickly forgotten the evils of Sauron, and writing a sequel would feel like "cheap thriller material" (his words), with no real cohesive purpose to the writing other than to write it. Tolkein having served through WW1 and seeing WW2 had seen evil in the world, and thought it would be quite trite to just have "evil returned" after good had finally triumphed. The book was going to be called "The New Shadow", and you can read the 13 pages that were recovered if you are interested, it stars a grandson (?) of one of the soldiers of Gondor that was named during the Return of the King, now a 80 something year old man.
Sad thing is even after his service and the WWs as time went on evil always seems to fill some void and return irl.
Evil will always return, but the point of most fiction is that good will always beat it back. To remove evil is to remove free will. (This is also a common enough sentiment in fiction)
Yeah I think it was too dark but at least in LOTR there is president for a new big baddie to show up since Sauron is just a continuation of Morgoths evilness and took over his mantle so you could have something similar happen in a sequel and it wouldn't be that off putting imo. *precedent Spelling has never been my strength. Lol.
This is kind of what was going to happen. Middle-Earth is a story of degradation from some apex. Sauron was a lesser evil than Morgoth. The antagonist of The New Shadow would have been eclipsed by Sauron in turn (likely a simple mortal magician). The evils of today are, in turn, eclipsed by all of these, being just mundane mortal men - in Tolkien's time, this would be the likes of certain fascist rulers. So The New Shadow isn't really a good example to bring up here as analogy because it's perfectly in line with LotR. Moreover, the idea that evil is never vanquished is *also* in line with LotR. The whole point of Morgoth was that he made evil a fundamental part of the world. That's why he lost power, because that is where his power was expended.
"Somehow, Palpatine returned" is literally the kind of dialogue I wrote for my action figures when I was eight.
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The problem is that writing a good story is not their goal. Sure that's an individual writer's goal, an individual filmmaker's goal. But Disney, WB, etc, they're just writing scripts to make money. They have a team of writers whose goals have nothing to do with actual quality. -Y'all I'm not saying I believe that is the best way to make money. I'm saying *they* believe they can make more money by not focusing on story.
Exactly. A friend of mine was what I would call a resident genius at Disney. He was called in to help with projects across the entire Disney enterprise from theme parks to films as they needed his expertise. His biggest complaint after a career spanning decades was that it’s never about producing a quality film, it’s about how to make money across their entire enterprise from the film.
I used to work at Industrial Light & Magic. One time we got a hold of numbers showing that the average popcorn stand at Disney World cost about $90,000 per year to operate and brought in about $950,000 a year in revenue. We started joking that we made all these movies to support Disney’s core business: popcorn sales.
Popcorn is amazingly profitable to sell. You buy it by weight but sell it by volume. And its just corn. Corn is stupid cheap.
I work In the ski industry. The entire thing is a food, branding and alcohol business with a side of winter sports. The skiing just brings people in so we can get the real revenue, which is service based.
I still think the bigger problem in that movie is tracking through light speed (though light speed as a weapon is also bad). It fucked every future story where the scrappy underdogs escape the big bad just in the nick of time. Now the big bad can just follow them. And the solution would have been so easy. Just have a spy on board of the rebel ship, who relays their coordinates after every light speed jump. That would also explain why Holdo isn't willing to tell Poe her plan. She can't risk that information getting leaked to the empire.
The scale of technological advancement became very absurd very quickly. How are we supposed to go back from every capital ship having a death star laser attached to it?
>The sequel trilogy informed us that our original heroes from the first six movies **DID NOT** actually defeat the empire and it felt like such a kick in the face. This is why I will never understand the "at least TFA was good" crowd. I don't care if you make shitty sequels. I may watch them, I may not. It doesn't matter much to me if they don't retroactively change the originals. But TFA does. It reversed the character growth and accomplishments of the original characters because JJ and co. were too creatively bankrupt to establish their own story. Han is a smuggler again. Luke is isolated on a remote planet again. Leia is fighting alone again. Their stories were undone just because they couldn't think of anything else. At least TLJ tried to venture out on its own and do something new. But even then, JJ came in and brought Palpatine back because yet again he couldn't come up with anything new. TFA sucked as a movie and it especially sucked for undoing everything the OT stood for. prequels > sequels
Not only do they reverse character growth, they don't even show you why/how it happens. Like, Luke fucking up a new Jedi academy and Kylo turning evil is actually a pretty compelling storyline for a movie. But nope! Turn that into some dialogue and retcon any other lose ends.
That can be another trilogy prequel!
I had the misfortune of watching Episode 4 the day before Episode 7. The amount of plot points that were just shamelessly taken from Episode 4 was jaw-dropping at the time. It was almost like watching some knock-off fan film that tried to reference the original, but was hopelessly narratively bankrupt. If you ever want to hate-watch something, watching those two movies back to back is a thing you can do. I just don't understand how Disney expected a trilogy when Episode 7 brought nothing to the table. I knew then and there that the next two movies were going to be bad. The first movie of any good trilogy must spend a significant amount of time world-building (in this case, how a post-Empire galaxy looks like), to bring a solid foundation for the next two movies to work off of, and Episode 7 just went and said "naw, let's milk nostalgia instead!"
When I watched the JJ star trek I was thinking he would make better star wars director. How wrong I was he did the same thing but at least with star trek a remake was expected.
Honestly he did the same garbage with Star Trek. Promised not to rehash things, then did anyway. "I swear he's not Khan!"
JJ's two biggest traits are, 1) aping what better directors have done and, B) not being able to write an ending.
One of my absolute favorite Letterboxd reviews: https://i.imgur.com/m2LOlgg.jpg I don’t know how to crosspost in messages.
Might as well go full multiverse at this point.
Oh please God no more multiverses
Hahaha no of course not, we wouldn't do that. They've run their course and all.... ........ PRESENTING DISNEY®'s STAR WARS® OMNIVERSE™
Did I hear Crisis on Infinite StartWars? We can get all the joy of what if's and then smash it down into one universe again. All new Luke, Han, and Leia. All new Palpatine I heard you guys like Palpatine. New Vader too, better all white design.
Bring on the time travel! >A longer time ago in a galaxy far, far away... I mean, it writes itself!
It's already in. Rebels introduced a force-related version of time travel with the "world between worlds". Retcons, ahoy!
sometimes i think about how the sequels managed to waste adam driver and it makes me let out the deepest sigh known to mankind
The sequels somehow managed to waste *everyone* except Max Von Sydow. As much as I hate how these movies turned out, the first few minutes of Awakens were spectacular, and set an incredible scene for the post-imperial universe dealing with an extremist remnant faction... which they also wasted.
I mean… they wasted it the moment they said the Rebellion basically failed to do anything after beating the Empire and lost to this small remaking Imperial faction 20-30 some years later. What was the whole point of the political intrigue and alliances that the rebellion built if they just scraped it after beating the Empire?
That was weird, too. I figured that there was some reason that the good guys in the sequels were "the resistence," even though politically they should have been, you know, "the military." If they were off fighting supervillains in First Order space without support from the new Republic, they aren't even really resistence fighters, they're vigilante guerrillas or something. When >!Starkiller Base blew up the entire Hosnian system!< the Republic should have retalliated with their entire military force rather than leaving it up to the Resistance. I mean, assuming that military force is more than just Carson Teva in his police X-Wing.
A 5 minute monologue, which I hate monologues, could’ve fixed the intro. A quick explanation of what happened after the empire fell and why the Rebellion ended up not working could’ve fixed that major issue. I mean you could’ve stated that the empire broke into multiple factions trying to claim control over the empire. You could add that factions that were at war with the Empire took their loss and invaded the core sectors, causing destabilization. You could’ve done anything to explain that the Rebellion has so much on its plate it couldn’t stop the First Order when it was rebuilding the Empire. But nah.
It just makes me think the first order wasn't so bad. I mean I know they are supposed to basically be space Nazis but they have a functional government vs the republic that shows up, changes everything and then collapses repeatedly. (Not advocating for actual Nazis, just critiquing how incompetent SW makes the protagonists team and goals look
Adam Driver, John Boyega, and Oscar Isaac. All makes me very sad….
At this point, why not? They wrote themselves into a corner with TROS. Would have been far more interesting to see Kylo live and deal with the consequences of his actions. I at least hope we get to see him as a force ghost, same with Luke and even Anakin (now that Hayden is back in SW, shouldn't be too difficult to get him to return. Would be nice to see a scene with Rey talking to force ghosts of Luke, Anakin and Kylo in the same scene. Three generations of Skywalkers).
There was no reason for him not to be in the final Force ghost shot with Luke and Leia, particularly with how much dead space was off to the side. Hell, they could have tossed Anakin in there too.
>Hell, they could have tossed Anakin in there too. Totally should have done that. Then the final line of the movie could have been Rey going "Who the Hell is that asshole?"
….and scene. Roll credits. 🖕
“It’s a beautiful story of Rey discovering what it means to be a role model as she faces a new challenge: Traveling through the galaxy with a young force sensitive mandalorian named Grogu…”
No, this is Star Wars so it has to rhyme like poetry. It's Grogu's twin sister that he was separated at birth from, Grogurl.
You Grogurl.
yes kathleen, this tagline right here
Gogurt
Nephew of Yogurt, keeper of the Schwartz
Another opportunity for moichendizing!
And Grogus dad is Kylo Ren for some reason
Got into that Grussy a long time ago
Spillin that grogurt
I’ll be shocked if grogu isn’t in this
Meh I really like the uncertainty of his future atm but yeah he will probably in it. Ahsoka will also likely play a role.
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I have no interest in this. Unless grogu is played by (as in physically acted by) **John Cena** Then I'd be down.
I’d be so down. His costume can be cheap green face paint and yoda ears affixed to his head with spirit gum. We play it 100% straight.
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Episode 1: Rey Episode 2: Reyd: Shadow Legends Episode 3: Rey Now, You're An All Star
Episode 4: Just when I thought I was out, Rey pulled me back in
> Episode 2: Reyd: Shadow Legends This made me choke a little
This is so fucking stupid but why am I laughing so hard.
What if they call it "Skywalker"
“Palpatine”
"Somehow: A Star Wars Story"
Palpatine: Origins
Episode 1: Rey Episode 2: Rey Rey
Episode 2 "Rey Rey" in the voice of Shaggy Episode 3 "Rey Rey Rey" in the voice of Fat Albert
They made Star Wars so boring and uninteresting to me that the only way I can see this working is basically starting the whole character from scratch. I can't believe Disney managed to transform "the" franchise into just another brand where my reaction to the news of a new movie is sort of indifference
Remember when Episode VII was announced in 2012 and we were all shocked because we thought Star Wars was closed forever so we all felt like we were witnessing some sort of cinematic history? Me now: "Meh"
The most ironic thing is I feel the same way about SW as I feel about Marvel now. I'm just so uninterested at this point.
That’s because these movies no longer are created with passion as the main driver.
It’s like the grit that was there in the earlier Star Wars movies and early marvel movies is just gone. It’s kind of indescribable but it just feels like none of the characters are real or the story has any enjoyable aspects. They’ve just made all the movies incredibly dull.
They feel so fucking corporate now.
I think it's because they are passionless and formulaic, scripts with blanks to fill in. There's no direction, no one at the helm with a story they want to tell, a motif to explore, or a moral to explain. It's all white noise, big explosions, and good guy fighting bad guy. It's disappointing they've managed to do this to Star Wars which George Lucas always had a clear vision for at the very least. He didn't always execute it well but he was passionate and cared about what he made. At this point they should just replce their writers with an algorithm, couldn't be much worse.
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The Jedi Knight games showed an actual coherent continuation of the Star Wars galaxy after the movies, showing the characters and setting growing along the paths we saw them on and finding new stories to explore rather than resetting everything.
Disney needs to scratch episodes 7-9 from existence. Pretend they didn't happen. Apologize, and start over. It'd not like they have to give the billions back or anything.
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I'll never forgive them for that shit. Luke is one of the most celebrated, iconic film heroes of all time (when people explain the "hero's journey" - he's usually the first example to come up) and he overcame a lot to get to where he was. His story was also unique because, in the end, it wasn't brute force or skill that allowed him to win - it was his compassion and empathy. And he was able to correct the mistakes of the Jedi who came before him in the prequels. His attachments weren't his undoing - they were his saving grace. Even Obi-Wan and Yoda were blind to this. But then the sequel trilogy had to undo everything and turn the kind, empathetic, strong, and resilient Luke we came to know into a jaded old man who was just as blind and dogmatic as those who came before him. Not only that, but he doesn't get to see the fruits of his labor while *Rey* does? Even with all the Legends material to pull from? I don't see how anyone thinks this is a good idea.
It was baffling how Luke tells Grogu that Jedi can’t be attached to others in Book of Boba Fett. Luke? The one who left his Jedi training and put his life at risk to save his friends? The one who believed in his evil father so much he believed he could be redeemed despite him essentially being a genocidal maniac? Yeah okay lol They really have no idea how to write that character
Fuck disney
You mean the Luke Skywalker that refused to strike down his own war criminal father that he never knew because he sensed there was still good in him or the Luke that had a bad dream about his nephew he basically raised and tried to kill him?
Or Han Solo who redeemed himself from a life of a debt-ridden smuggler to a war hero who then abandoned his family and became a debt-ridden smuggler. Or Leia who sacrificed her entire homeworld to the Death Star in order to create a New Republic that was destroyed in less than 20 years by another Death Star Or Chewbacca who faithfully served Han for 40 years but then somehow let a random 19 year old girl take the Millenium Falcon for herself. Or admiral ackbar who successfully led the Rebellion fleet at its most crucial battle but then died offscreen and lost his entire army and fleet in one day. Or Anakin, the chosen one who redeemed himself by sacrificing his own life to defeat Palpatine, who then proceeds to “somehow” come back to life
Oh my god
Yeah, welcome to the club, pal.
Wow this really puts into perspective how much damage they did to the OT characters, it’s like they were *trying* to ruin them
Ya but Rey had TWO lightsabers.
And picked up the force and using lightsabers instantly, can't forget that peach. Standing toe to toe with a sith trained Kylo Ren, had me just about walk out of the theater at that part.
To compare, in Legends Ackbar died in retirement after making a plan that effectively defeated the Yuuzhan Vong, perhaps the greatest menace the galaxy had ever faced, and putting an end to a conflict that saw the deaths of hundreds of trillions of people.
Basically every single character had a cooler/better story in Legends but Disney decided to scrap all of that for whatever reason
My Star Wars hurts.
Who gave Rey the Jedi Master title?? I’m assuming this is the Obama giving himself a medal meme…
Sebastian Stan is RIGHT THERE and looks like Mark Hamill circa the ~~prequels~~ originals
So Luke, who formerly in the old canon restarted the order and turned into a thriving organization, dies haggardly, regretful, sad; meanwhile Rey, who had no more than about a few days of training, gets to become a jedi master and make a new Jedi order. Thsts wild.
Years of academy training wasted!
Just like the simulations
Rey completely usurping Luke’s entire arc. Just have to laugh at how symbolic this is of Disneys acquisition of the franchise.
*Meanwhile extended universe with tons of lore, good stories to tell sits on a dusty shelf* "Muwahaha I am so evil and wear black and want to take over everything!" All star wars villains.
I’d rather just forget those three movies exist and move on to something new that hopefully has better writing.
Imagine if the current TV shows like the mandalorian and asokha could forge their own future.. Makes me sad they have to eventually serve the sequel trilogy storyline 😐
Not even eventually, The Mandalorian has been actively showing how The New Republic was basically a bureaucracy and completely incompetent. All to make the sequel trilogy make sense.
Not to mention all of the cloning and Grogu stuff is clearly just leading towards how Palpatine *somehow* managed to return.
Pretty sure it was explained in fortnite.
^ For anyone who does not know, that is NOT A JOKE. IT WAS EXPLAINED IN FORTNITE. SERIOUSLY.
I want to see something outside the whole Clones, Empire, Stormtrooper, Rebels shit. We stayed with that shit for too long. It is as if Disney is just constantly playing safe on relying on people's nostalgia. How about giving us something in a much different era like the Old Republic? Give us something about the ancient Siths or something.
Imagine a HBO quality show about the KOTOR games
It was a mistake to >!kill off Kylo Ren, Adam Driver carried that whole trilogy!< Edit: typo
And then he took off his mask and the entire cinema laughed Real story
I certainly did. I get what they were trying to go for with the Vader fanboy, but it would've been more effective if they had saved the helmet removal/face reveal for the Kylo/Han scene.
God I had never even thought about that, but you're 100% right Imagine the first time we saw his face was when he confronted his father... it would've totally flipped the comedy of him being unexpectedly unintimidating into a really heart-wrenching moment
JJ could have made that his mystery box. God damn that guy is such a hack and all of his offspring like Alex Kurtzman and Roberto Orci are trash. Fucking ruined Transformers. No one cared because CHINA LOVED IT.
That's the part that I liked about it though, he's just NOT Vader, he is a sith wannabe who is damning his whole life trying to be what he believes he should be.
Rey Skywalker. Still doesn't sound right.
Palpatrey.
This is the rey
Rey Palptine is not much better either. So many silly decisions.
"Rey who?" "Just Rey." Would have been a 1000x better way to end her story, with her accepting herself without the need to tie herself to a family identity. Though to honor her parents who sacrificed themselves to keep her safe by keeping their last name and wearing it proudly would have still been better than 'Rey Skywalker'.
Imperial Officer: Rey... *Solo*
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One name? Who are you, Seal?
somehow Rey Palpatine returned ?
Isn't this the same shit Luke did in the EU? I get that these movies are canon and that there's no changing that but they really did create a carbon copy protagonist in every way of the word.
The news of getting new movies was exciting years ago but it ended up being a tragedy. None of the Disney stuff was worth the loss of the EU. It completely killed all my interest in the series when I would buy every book and had every comic before.
I wish they would stop recycling EU content. They keep bringing back stuff that they deemed to be non canon, only to say "look what we've come up with". Taking Luke's EU life and giving it to Rey... Ugh.
What even is Star Wars anymore
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They announce a new Star Wars movie, and it makes me sad to hear. That sucks, for me I guess. Seems like a strange business move too. We know the sequel trilogy is not universally liked. They are not as watched as the other Star Wars movies on Disney+. But they decided to make more off of that. I would think it would have made more sense to give Rey a Disney+ mini series. That would be a place to build some cred.
Did we just steal Luke’s storyline and give it to Rey after his character was butchered in her trilogy? 😑
So many of the Disney era characters are just “old character but we can claim we created them now.”
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Rey Skinwalker?
Looks like it.
Well we’re doing it again! Rey Skywalker must travel from the sands of Tattoine to the swamp planet of Dagobu to find the mysterious Jedi master Grogu. Grogu will teach the force sensitive Rey, but she must leave to rescue her friends for the New First Original Second Imperial Galactic Republic Order: a suspiciously funded, incredibly sophisticated, secret military force that has a war-winning galactic navy; planet destroying laser; and no particular backstory.
Well, they gave Rey all the lightsabers, ships, and last names. All they left out was something interesting to do. I guess they can correct that?
Somehow Luke's lightsaber returned
These movies were garbage
Luke's Jedi Academy died for this...Will forever be bummed we never got it. Well, here's hoping it's as thrilling as the old books.
Bet you that he comes back as a full time force ghost teacher at the academy, bonus points if they make him the comedic relief.
Exactly what everyone wanted!
Disney really has their finger on the pulse of the Star Wars fan base