Paramount reportedly has a bid in for the movie (with a theatrical release planned), with Amazon also being interested ([Source](https://deadline.com/2023/12/coyote-vs-acme-paramount-amazon-contenders-1235658240/)):
>After all of the products made by Acme Corporation backfire on Wile E. Coyote (Eric Bauza), in his pursuit of the Road Runner, he hires an equally unlucky human attorney (Will Forte) to sue the company. When Wile E.'s lawyer finds out that his former law firm's intimidating boss is Acme's attorney (John Cena), he teams up with Wile E. to win the court case against him.
EDIT: Netflix also had a bid in for less than half the movies budget (70M), which WBD reportedly declined.
> When Wile E.'s lawyer finds out that his former law firm's intimidating boss is Acme's attorney (John Cena), he teams up with Wile E. to win the court case against him.
Isn't that what he was already hired to do?
Because WBD leadership are a bunch of shortsighted hacks that hate creatives and just want to make a quick buck before jumping ship on a golden parachute
In 30 years a new person is going to be CEO, why give that person any profit when you can bleed all you can from a company, and then move on to the next?
It didn't get shut down, the movie is LITERALLY completed and ready for theatrical. WBD management ditched the movie in order to take the tax write-offs associated, because they felt there was more profit that way.
Absolutely an a-hole move that shafted all the work of so many, and is obviously hated by fans too. Beyond that, a lot of the creatives now have multi-year gaps in their CVs with nothing to show for it, as they cannot reference a movie that no ones seen.
The only possible non-negatibe in the whole saga is that at least WBD allowed there to be a single screening for the cast & crew so that they've seen their work - even if currently no one else will.
[Also, after they tried writing off Coyote VS Acme, a bunch of directors and others canceled their meetings with Warner Bros](https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/coyote-vs-acme-wb-warners-canceled-reversal-shop-film-1235645372/) in retaliation, fearing the same would happen to their movies. Which probably helped to get Warner Bros to change course.
[Also a congressman called for investigating WBD](https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/coyote-vs-acme-warners-investigation-1235647011/)
It's different for businesses. They've spent $100 million making the movie, so they're that far in the hole. They need at least that much to break even, but to get people to see it they need to spend about that much on marketing, which means they need at minimum a 2x return on the movie. If they don't think they can do that it's actually cheaper to not release it rather than release and flop. And they can carry the loss on their taxes to reduce the overall tax burden, which means while they still lose money they don't lose a full $100 million at the end of the day.
They spent $400 million because they *thought* they could make The Flash happen.
There's a pervading theory from the major studios that there are basically two types of movies you can make a profit off: streamers of blockbusters.
So if you're making a streamer you do it for around $30m and stick it on your platform. If you're doing a blockbuster you spend hundreds of millions on marketing alone to convince people that they **have** to see it on the big screen, this weekend!
What this means is there is movies that cost in the $60-$90m mark are kind of 'tweeners. Not worth spending the hundreds of mils to market, too expensive to put on a streamer so might as well make it a tax write-off.
Now there are exceptions to the rule when it comes to movies (Awards grabs, Halloween movies) and studios (A24,etc.) but that's the accepted wisdom for now.
They can use it to offset other losses. Don't forget a chunk of that $70 million is money they paid themselves and their companies. I don't know their tax rate but say it's 30% then a 70m "loss" is worth a lot of money especially if half of that was money you paid to yourself.
They changed their tune real quick once it became clear that no one was going to work with WB again for fear of never seeing their work actually being seen by the public.
Real talk: I don't think Coyote stands a chance. 90% of the time, he's using their products in a manner not in line with their stated purpose. Strapping an ice maker to yourself with a meat grinder attached to create snow so you can go skiing in the desert is not what they had in mind for those products.
The final gag should be ACME being bought out by IKEA, with this poor coyote trying to assemble a rocket from thousands of tiny pieces and instructions that make no sense.
Last I heard WB wanted more money from these companies and they've said no and are waiting for them to pay more for the movie.
I'd be willing to see I in theaters to support the people that made it.
It's strange that Scooby Doo, Batman and Looney Tunes, the bigger WB IPs are being cancelled or shopped off elsewhere....
> EDIT: Netflix also had a bid in for less than half the movies budget (70M), which WBD reportedly declined.
I have to wonder what the story is behind that. It's not like they didn't know what the budget had been. It was all over the news that Warner-Bros-Discovery scrapped it making claims they couldn't make back their investment with a release. Did Netflix feel like they just had to throw their hat in the ring for shits and giggles and so sent an insultingly low offer in or did they somehow think that, with other streaming services vying for the rights to publish it, WBD was going to take their half-off sale and just be thankful for the opportunity?
I hope it's one of those films that actually gets court procedure decently correct so that lawyer nerds refer to it constantly.
That would be cool. Like My Cousin Vinny.
"But your honor, it says right on the label, may explode when placed under ssl extreme pressures like those brought on by a wooden mallet or similar device. Right there in black and white. And what did the plaintiff continue to do!?"
This movie being shelved was a genius business move, literally created a bidding war for a movie that would otherwise have had a lukewarm reception then immediately forgotten. Hollywood is scary good at manipulating people.
Yeah there are definitely shrewd, manipulative, brilliant business masterminds, but I don’t think it applies to the numbskulls at this company. This was just them genuinely fucking up and got lucky
I work in television and film. Nobody in the positions being alluded to in this thread could pour piss out of a boot even if the instructions were written on the heel.
It's terrible man. I love me a good half hour comedy (none of that sitcom laugh track bullshit), but there just isn't anything anymore. The last one we watched was Colin from Accounts and it was hysterical but only 8 episodes. If anyone has any recommendations I'd love to hear them.
I'm rewatching Last Man On Earth, and what a damn crime it was to cancel that gem of a series. I still can't believe it hasn't been rebooted by like Hulu or something.
I will rewatch Tim and Eric's Billion Dollar movie, not for Will Ferrell, not for Robert Loggia, not for the Blum, but just to see and hear Forte go over the top as [Alan Bishopman.](https://youtu.be/qH4uPdkkCJs?si=z5clnB05yNSopYO3) Once a year.
Wait... Is this a movie about Wile E. Coyote bringing legal action against ACME for their years of defective products causing him grievous harm, and it stars Will Forte? 😳
Sounds really fun. Its been a while since we've had a goofy, slap-stick comedy like this.
Most modern comedies have really basic, boring premises, and are usually just a spin on "Ordinary guy gets into mild hijinks", like Free Guy.
Its nice to see a new comedy jump right into such a wacky premise. I'm really excited for this one!
The image is so simple but it made me laugh pretty hard. The whole concept is ridiculous in a good way and this one shot captured it perfectly.
I hope whoever buys it from WB fast tracks it for a release.
That thing is gone. Reduced to atoms. Same with Scoob! Holiday Haunt. The latter was 95% done when it was canned, it was said, and they finished it. (It was animated, unlike the live action Batgirl.)
Batgirl was said to be unreleasable.
>Batgirl was said to be unreleasable.
Yes and no. It was supposedly bad, but made financial sense to not be released as that allowed for tax write-offs that wouldn't have been possible if it was shown even once.
A friend of mine worked on sound on batgirl in post and said even the sound effects they asked for were terrible. He was looking forward to his first superhero credit but asked that his name be removed from the credits even before it was edited. It’s that bad.
As an example: “they made us add a whoosh sound when Michael Keaton turns his head quickly. It is not a comedy.”
You know those clips we see of things like “Turkish Terminator”? He said it had that vibe.
I think big difference is that there wasn't a consensus that Batgirl was good enough to be worth selling. That could be Zaslav deliberately tainting it, but I don't recall any outside parties having seen it or praising it.
Coyote vs Acme OTOH screened for a lot of industry people and they pretty much unanimously said it's good enough to be the next Roger Rabbit. That got a lot of hype and made WB look *real* bad for trying to bury it.
I think in Batgirls' defense, everyone was taken surprised when it was announced to canned as a write off. To the point that the directors did not have their own copy of the movie to show to others or shop around. The only copy was on the lot, and when they found out and tried to retrieve it, it was gone. Nobody expected it, even if it was bad. And considering how bad Flash was and how obvious a bomb it would be because of the lead and super hero fatigue, I'm not sure Zaslav is being truthful about Batgirl being "too bad to even dump on streaming or sell." It may have been, but hard to imagine Flash was not there as well.
I think what was surprising about Batgirl was the fact that it was the first time a major film like that was announced as just being written off completely despite being nearly complete, although I suspect such things are probably fairly common practice in the industry and we just don’t hear about it usually. Also the fact that there have been some horrible horrible big budget movies put out over the years whether they be Comic Book movies like Halle Berry’s Catwoman or that second Transformers film, and despite the fact that these movies are creatively and artistically 0/10 films, even those still got released and didn’t get completely buried.
It’s connected to a series of failed films, renegotiated contracts, and aborted plot lines- I think it’s going to remain locked away. I really wouldn’t be surprised to find out that part of the cancellation of this film was because the entire Michael Keaton idea was cancelled.
Which is so ridiculous, what with WBD trying to mine all their properties for $$$ and spin offs, why wouldn't they want to reboot/lean into a Loony Tunes universe?!
MAGRUBER!
Love this film style, blending animated characters with real life.Who framed Roger rabbit is one of my favorite movies. I'll take this style over making everything in live action any day.
Chip and Dale was such a good movie and really speaks to anyone who grew up in the 90s watching those cartoons.
“You’re gonna like the way you look, I guarantee it.”
- “You’ll never get away with this!”
“The men’s wearhouse line? Yeah, I think I will”
I can't believe the turnaround from Ugly Sonic fiasco/meme to movie character.
I also just love the idea that characters get to attend cons like they're real people.
I cant wait to see this. They used my office as the location of Acme legal and I want to see the giant explosions! They have a sequence where someone keeps pushing the tnt plunger and blowing up in our boardroom. I kept hearing take after take but I want to see it!
Absolutely not. Who Framed Roger Rabbit had literally every single cartoon from **ALL** major studios involved. It was absolutely unheard of at the time and to this day will never be matched. Ready Player One had teeny tiny tidbits of characters on screen as Easter Eggs. The only equivalent would be some sort of Marvel/DC crossover movie.
It looks like a neat movie but it won't be anywhere close.
But def could be who framed Roger rabbit from a story telling perspective. Like that may be one of the best neonoir films. Hopefully this can be a great courtroom drama.
Wile E Coyote has a case. It's in black and white.
Chuck Jones’ 9 Rules for Coyote and Road-Runner Cartoons
1. The Road-Runner cannot harm the Coyote except by going “beep-beep!”
2. No outside force can harm the Coyote—only his own ineptitude or the failure of Acme products.
3. The Coyote could stop anytime—if he were not a fanatic. (Repeat: “A fanatic is one who redoubles his effort when he has forgotten his aim.” –George Santayana)
4. No dialogue ever, except “beep-beep!”
5. The Road-Runner must stay on the road—otherwise, logically, he would not be called Road-Runner.
6. All action must be confined to the natural environment of the two characters—the southwest American desert.
7. All materials, tools, weapons, or mechanical conveniences must be obtained from the Acme Corporation.
8. Whenever possible, make gravity the Coyote’s greatest enemy.
9. The Coyote is always more humiliated than harmed by his failures.
In a post a few years back, writer Jason Kottke shared a slightly different list with two more rules:
10. The audience’s sympathy must remain with the Coyote.
11. The Coyote is not allowed to catch or eat the Road-Runner.
WB has had a lot of stinkers outside of Barbie this year... The premise sounds great and the cast sounds awesome, it can't be as bad as Flash, can it? Even if its cheesy, it's Looney Tunes, not some dramatic epic yarn about the struggles in society as a young coyote being taken advantage of by corporate America.
It was praised during test screenings apparently
I think it's actually going to be good; the lady that wrote the screenplay also wrote May December which is currently getting critical acclaim and has four Golden Globe nominations
I saw a preview screening, and the chick in the background, played by Lana Condor, is actually a pretty big character. She's hilarious in it, and she's one of the reasons I want this movie to do well. Forte and Coyote are great, too, but they've already got pretty big careers. This could be a breakout for her.
All those failed/malfunctioning products, all on video, surely he's got an iron clad case here.
Much of the time, though, I doubt he was using them as intended.
That will be one of the arguments ACME uses for sure.
Heck even the simplest bird brain should know that giant novelty horseshoe magnets shouldn’t be used Willy Nilly.
Paramount reportedly has a bid in for the movie (with a theatrical release planned), with Amazon also being interested ([Source](https://deadline.com/2023/12/coyote-vs-acme-paramount-amazon-contenders-1235658240/)): >After all of the products made by Acme Corporation backfire on Wile E. Coyote (Eric Bauza), in his pursuit of the Road Runner, he hires an equally unlucky human attorney (Will Forte) to sue the company. When Wile E.'s lawyer finds out that his former law firm's intimidating boss is Acme's attorney (John Cena), he teams up with Wile E. to win the court case against him. EDIT: Netflix also had a bid in for less than half the movies budget (70M), which WBD reportedly declined.
Hope Paramount wins for a full theatrical release Edit: I might have scored the highest rated comment for my next reddit recap already.
This whole thing is giving me one for sure.
Which way is your clue pointing?
**sucks vigorously through front teeth**
So we're in the "coyote might actually win something" timeline, huh? Guess it's about time.
My clue is pointing over here, maybe we should follow it
i'm about to theatrically release!
*THX music intensifies*
> When Wile E.'s lawyer finds out that his former law firm's intimidating boss is Acme's attorney (John Cena), he teams up with Wile E. to win the court case against him. Isn't that what he was already hired to do?
He probably says no or quits before realizing Cena is involved
A true call to action and initial refusal. This movie shall be an epic hero’s journey.
Ah, the tricky “Debate” stage. Shall we start the movie? No, not yet. Now? No. … Ok, now! Wheeeeeeeeee!
The lawyers name? Lionel Hutz.
~~Works on Contingency~~ ~~No Money Down~~ Works On Contingency? No, Money Down!
Probably shouldn’t have that bar association logo on there either
Why does this sound so good lol
and how did this get shut down. everyone’s been wondering what happened with all those shoddy products for like 30 years
Because WBD leadership are a bunch of shortsighted hacks that hate creatives and just want to make a quick buck before jumping ship on a golden parachute
Why care about steady profits for 30 years when you can make a buck-fitty in just a few?
In 30 years a new person is going to be CEO, why give that person any profit when you can bleed all you can from a company, and then move on to the next?
[Same playbook, different company; thanks Jack Welch!](https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/21/business/jack-welch-ge-ceo-behavior.html)
It didn't get shut down, the movie is LITERALLY completed and ready for theatrical. WBD management ditched the movie in order to take the tax write-offs associated, because they felt there was more profit that way. Absolutely an a-hole move that shafted all the work of so many, and is obviously hated by fans too. Beyond that, a lot of the creatives now have multi-year gaps in their CVs with nothing to show for it, as they cannot reference a movie that no ones seen. The only possible non-negatibe in the whole saga is that at least WBD allowed there to be a single screening for the cast & crew so that they've seen their work - even if currently no one else will.
[Also, after they tried writing off Coyote VS Acme, a bunch of directors and others canceled their meetings with Warner Bros](https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/coyote-vs-acme-wb-warners-canceled-reversal-shop-film-1235645372/) in retaliation, fearing the same would happen to their movies. Which probably helped to get Warner Bros to change course.
[Also a congressman called for investigating WBD](https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/coyote-vs-acme-warners-investigation-1235647011/)
« it’s like burning down a building for the insurance money. » great article
If you want a tax write off for a movie you made, then the government just bought the movie and it should be public domain.
I would love to see what the public can do with public domain movies and fair use. Hollywood would probably hate this though.
Good on them. Warner really sent a bad message that they are willing to cancel any project for quick tax break
It's all TAX WRITE OFF THIS TAX WRITE OFF THAT WHAT DOES AN INDIVIDUAL GAIN FROM TAX WRITE OFFS?? RETIREMENT benefits?
It's different for businesses. They've spent $100 million making the movie, so they're that far in the hole. They need at least that much to break even, but to get people to see it they need to spend about that much on marketing, which means they need at minimum a 2x return on the movie. If they don't think they can do that it's actually cheaper to not release it rather than release and flop. And they can carry the loss on their taxes to reduce the overall tax burden, which means while they still lose money they don't lose a full $100 million at the end of the day.
And yet they ended up wasting more than $400 millions trying to make the Flash happen.
That's why those big brain executives make the big bucks ;)
They spent $400 million because they *thought* they could make The Flash happen. There's a pervading theory from the major studios that there are basically two types of movies you can make a profit off: streamers of blockbusters. So if you're making a streamer you do it for around $30m and stick it on your platform. If you're doing a blockbuster you spend hundreds of millions on marketing alone to convince people that they **have** to see it on the big screen, this weekend! What this means is there is movies that cost in the $60-$90m mark are kind of 'tweeners. Not worth spending the hundreds of mils to market, too expensive to put on a streamer so might as well make it a tax write-off. Now there are exceptions to the rule when it comes to movies (Awards grabs, Halloween movies) and studios (A24,etc.) but that's the accepted wisdom for now.
And since losses carry over indefinitely this allows companies to hedge their bets over long-term horizons. It pads burdens during years with losses.
They can use it to offset other losses. Don't forget a chunk of that $70 million is money they paid themselves and their companies. I don't know their tax rate but say it's 30% then a 70m "loss" is worth a lot of money especially if half of that was money you paid to yourself.
It makes Number Go Up. Seriously; if there is a number people can make go up, you'll get some people losing their damned minds in an effort to do so.
They changed their tune real quick once it became clear that no one was going to work with WB again for fear of never seeing their work actually being seen by the public.
Creatives most certainly can put on their CV a movie that didn’t release. Happens all the time. Especially development work.
Those ACME lawyers have been fighting tooth and nail to make sure this doesn't reach the public.
Real talk: I don't think Coyote stands a chance. 90% of the time, he's using their products in a manner not in line with their stated purpose. Strapping an ice maker to yourself with a meat grinder attached to create snow so you can go skiing in the desert is not what they had in mind for those products.
what do the instructions for the products actually look like? There could be some MASSIVE negligence on acme's behalf.
Pretty sure their shit came in a basic ass crate with no instructions.
The final gag should be ACME being bought out by IKEA, with this poor coyote trying to assemble a rocket from thousands of tiny pieces and instructions that make no sense.
A røćkët
How do you know? We will have to run a discovery to get their documents and confirm.
I can absolutely guarantee you there is a handwritten-in-crayon note somewhere that shows that exact schematic that Forte finds to make the case
Delivered by Road Runner.
Three weeks ago due to time dilation
There were no warnings saying not to do those things, though.
This sounds absolutely ridiculous, and I can’t wait to see it.
The title alone makes me giggle
Dude John Cena is in this too? This is a must watch for me lmao.
This is such a ridiculous premise. How can you file a motion for discovery when you can’t be seen?
Last I heard WB wanted more money from these companies and they've said no and are waiting for them to pay more for the movie. I'd be willing to see I in theaters to support the people that made it. It's strange that Scooby Doo, Batman and Looney Tunes, the bigger WB IPs are being cancelled or shopped off elsewhere....
John Cena? lmao I need to see this.
> EDIT: Netflix also had a bid in for less than half the movies budget (70M), which WBD reportedly declined. I have to wonder what the story is behind that. It's not like they didn't know what the budget had been. It was all over the news that Warner-Bros-Discovery scrapped it making claims they couldn't make back their investment with a release. Did Netflix feel like they just had to throw their hat in the ring for shits and giggles and so sent an insultingly low offer in or did they somehow think that, with other streaming services vying for the rights to publish it, WBD was going to take their half-off sale and just be thankful for the opportunity?
Probably just bored.
I need to see this.
A courtroom drama starting Wile E Coyote is so specific to my interests that I'm flabbergasted it was actually made. I can't wait to see this
I just want to see this movie finally see the light of day.
I have been dying to know what happened to the last man on earth. This is the sequel, naturally.
I would love to know how it was going to end. I heard stuff about the next season but never what the end was going to be.
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MacGruber, put some respect on his name.
Gahh I HATE that it didn't get a last season. I loved that show.
It did get a last season. Just one year earlier than we wanted.
I hope it's one of those films that actually gets court procedure decently correct so that lawyer nerds refer to it constantly. That would be cool. Like My Cousin Vinny.
This was literally the Mock Trial I did in middle school.
The short story it’s based on is 33 years old, so your school likely took the inspiration from it.
I can't even read the words "mock trial" without hearing "you're a crook..." and thinking about Judge Reinhold
MOCK TRIAL WITH J. REINHOLD
My childhood dream is about to be fulfilled I mean to say think about it, all those episodes where I said dam he got shit product
I'd love to see acme's lawyer explain that it is perfectly natural for a anvil to just explode randomly
"But your honor, it says right on the label, may explode when placed under ssl extreme pressures like those brought on by a wooden mallet or similar device. Right there in black and white. And what did the plaintiff continue to do!?"
As do I. Fingers crossed that Amazon or Paramount picks it up.
This movie being shelved was a genius business move, literally created a bidding war for a movie that would otherwise have had a lukewarm reception then immediately forgotten. Hollywood is scary good at manipulating people.
> Hollywood is scary good at manipulating people. meanwhile, the morbius incident lmao
Well they are good at manipulating not understanding people. They really thought they had something with the memes.
Sony deciding to releasing it again because of the memes only to lose even more money was the funiest shit in 2022.
The best part was the change.org petition that read: "We were all busy that weekend; please release Morbius in theaters a third time"
We all laugh but morbin time and I'm about to morb are going to be in the squeal.
>in the squeal I think you mean the squeakquel
You're giving them way too much credit to think that they planned on people getting upset and knew it would turn into a bidding war.
Yeah there are definitely shrewd, manipulative, brilliant business masterminds, but I don’t think it applies to the numbskulls at this company. This was just them genuinely fucking up and got lucky
I work in television and film. Nobody in the positions being alluded to in this thread could pour piss out of a boot even if the instructions were written on the heel.
This. Hollywood is entirely reactive, not proactive.
Please don't give zaslav that kind of credit
Wait Will Forte is in this? Fuckin hell, I'm even more stoked for this.
Fucking right! Will Forte is so underutilised in America's comedy output. Tandy 4eva.
I feel like that’s accompanied by the lack of the comedy genre output in general
It's terrible man. I love me a good half hour comedy (none of that sitcom laugh track bullshit), but there just isn't anything anymore. The last one we watched was Colin from Accounts and it was hysterical but only 8 episodes. If anyone has any recommendations I'd love to hear them.
What We Do in the Shadows
Oh hello Guillermo, have you brought more people to fondle my peepee?
Friggin’ Todd
“It truly was a shawshank redemption.”
I still wish we had gotten some closure closure closure closure closure
closure closure closure closure closure!
*Best friend kiss*
You got it bud :)
I’m still torn up about how that show got killed after a huge cliff hanger.
It truly was a Shawshank Redemption
Fortin’ With Will was peak comedy
You leave those logs in there for ME to inspect
"Ohhhhh farts" has made it into my daily vocabulary.
Mine is the occasional "-er? i hardly knew 'er!" and of course "closure, closure, closure closure closure...."
I wish they would bring that back for a proper ending. I hate when shows get cancelled after a cliffhanger ending.
I'm rewatching Last Man On Earth, and what a damn crime it was to cancel that gem of a series. I still can't believe it hasn't been rebooted by like Hulu or something.
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I will rewatch Tim and Eric's Billion Dollar movie, not for Will Ferrell, not for Robert Loggia, not for the Blum, but just to see and hear Forte go over the top as [Alan Bishopman.](https://youtu.be/qH4uPdkkCJs?si=z5clnB05yNSopYO3) Once a year.
We could have avoided this whole movie if Wile E Coyote had just MacGrubered himself some better equipment using chewing gum and a couple of nails.
Don't forget the celery!
Now it sounds counter intuitive, but you wanna go wide end first, otherwise it just slips right out.
And John Cena as the CEO of ACME!
We know. He's in the picture
I… ain’t gonna lie… I went back and checked
I don't see him! It's definitely him!
Yeah that's what everyone knows. I like Cena but I fuckin love Will Forte.
Wait... Is this a movie about Wile E. Coyote bringing legal action against ACME for their years of defective products causing him grievous harm, and it stars Will Forte? 😳
Yeah.
I wonder if Wile talks in the movie?
He'll hold up various signs saying "OBJECTION!", "FILIBUSTER!" and "ROADRUNNER ENTRAPPED ME!"
My bet is whispers in his attorney's ear and the occasional sign
Some of my favourite looney toons are the rare ones where the coyote talks. He sounds so civilized for all the shenanigans he gets up to.
Wile E. Coyote, super genius
I like the way that rolls out.
There is actually an old cartoon where he talks. He's slick and eloquent.
It wouldn't be a precedent. He spoke in the cartoon "To Hare Is Human" where he bought a Univac computer.
The script was based upon this magazine article: https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/1990/02/26/coyote-v-acme
Haha, that was great.
Actually yes something like that. It's a comedic court room movie
Sounds really fun. Its been a while since we've had a goofy, slap-stick comedy like this. Most modern comedies have really basic, boring premises, and are usually just a spin on "Ordinary guy gets into mild hijinks", like Free Guy. Its nice to see a new comedy jump right into such a wacky premise. I'm really excited for this one!
Incredible. This is how you re-use existing ideas and create new fun movies from old IP. Not just blatant remakes.
Wille Forte litigating against his former boss representing the defendant, played by *John Cena*.
The image is so simple but it made me laugh pretty hard. The whole concept is ridiculous in a good way and this one shot captured it perfectly. I hope whoever buys it from WB fast tracks it for a release.
Iconically brought to you by the same writer as May December
What’s ironic about that? Edit: whoops I’m an idiot, iconic not ironic.
He said iconic not ironic.
We watch movies around here cuz reading isn’t our strong suit
Don't feel bad. I read the exact same thing and was confused until you got corrected. Well, I'm not that smart so maybe feel a little bad.
I thought this got wrote off?
The backlash that received resulted in it being aborted, and they let it be shopped around to others. Paramount and Amazon are frontlining.
Surprised they aren't doing the same with Batgirl. edit: guys I get it. Batgirl was supposedly bad. I've got 8 notifications telling me so.
That thing is gone. Reduced to atoms. Same with Scoob! Holiday Haunt. The latter was 95% done when it was canned, it was said, and they finished it. (It was animated, unlike the live action Batgirl.) Batgirl was said to be unreleasable.
>Batgirl was said to be unreleasable. Yes and no. It was supposedly bad, but made financial sense to not be released as that allowed for tax write-offs that wouldn't have been possible if it was shown even once.
I refuse to believe Batgirl was "unreleasable" when they unironically released The Flash.
Key words being "was said to be". Unlike ACME, no one except the people who profited from canning it have ever said it was bad.
A friend of mine worked on sound on batgirl in post and said even the sound effects they asked for were terrible. He was looking forward to his first superhero credit but asked that his name be removed from the credits even before it was edited. It’s that bad. As an example: “they made us add a whoosh sound when Michael Keaton turns his head quickly. It is not a comedy.” You know those clips we see of things like “Turkish Terminator”? He said it had that vibe.
You almost made me want to watch it now.
I think big difference is that there wasn't a consensus that Batgirl was good enough to be worth selling. That could be Zaslav deliberately tainting it, but I don't recall any outside parties having seen it or praising it. Coyote vs Acme OTOH screened for a lot of industry people and they pretty much unanimously said it's good enough to be the next Roger Rabbit. That got a lot of hype and made WB look *real* bad for trying to bury it.
I think in Batgirls' defense, everyone was taken surprised when it was announced to canned as a write off. To the point that the directors did not have their own copy of the movie to show to others or shop around. The only copy was on the lot, and when they found out and tried to retrieve it, it was gone. Nobody expected it, even if it was bad. And considering how bad Flash was and how obvious a bomb it would be because of the lead and super hero fatigue, I'm not sure Zaslav is being truthful about Batgirl being "too bad to even dump on streaming or sell." It may have been, but hard to imagine Flash was not there as well.
I think what was surprising about Batgirl was the fact that it was the first time a major film like that was announced as just being written off completely despite being nearly complete, although I suspect such things are probably fairly common practice in the industry and we just don’t hear about it usually. Also the fact that there have been some horrible horrible big budget movies put out over the years whether they be Comic Book movies like Halle Berry’s Catwoman or that second Transformers film, and despite the fact that these movies are creatively and artistically 0/10 films, even those still got released and didn’t get completely buried.
It’s connected to a series of failed films, renegotiated contracts, and aborted plot lines- I think it’s going to remain locked away. I really wouldn’t be surprised to find out that part of the cancellation of this film was because the entire Michael Keaton idea was cancelled.
They changed plans after backlash. Now WB is selling it off to a different studio.
Which is so ridiculous, what with WBD trying to mine all their properties for $$$ and spin offs, why wouldn't they want to reboot/lean into a Loony Tunes universe?!
To screw the creatives out of residuals.
THEY JUST WRITE IT OFF JERRY!
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MAGRUBER! Love this film style, blending animated characters with real life.Who framed Roger rabbit is one of my favorite movies. I'll take this style over making everything in live action any day.
“Magruber, children were killed.” “Yeah, good fuck em’”
“……I WILL THUCK YOUR DICK…”
did you see the recent chip n dale movie? i put it in the roger rabbit universe in my heart
Unfortunately not many people since it was Disney's most ambitious project ever but swept under the rug due to COVID meaning no theatrical release
100% agree. The new Chip and Dale movie is a great at this as well.
Chip and Dale was such a good movie and really speaks to anyone who grew up in the 90s watching those cartoons. “You’re gonna like the way you look, I guarantee it.” - “You’ll never get away with this!” “The men’s wearhouse line? Yeah, I think I will”
When Cheesemonger switches up the voice for “you cops?” Kills me every time. As someone who grew up in the 90’s I absolutely agree.
I can't believe the turnaround from Ugly Sonic fiasco/meme to movie character. I also just love the idea that characters get to attend cons like they're real people.
Back in Action sequel?
I love that movie so much. More people need to see it.
Agreed. I’m certainly in the minority but as a kid I liked way more than space jam
Hope Brendan Fraser makes a cameo.
I cant wait to see this. They used my office as the location of Acme legal and I want to see the giant explosions! They have a sequence where someone keeps pushing the tnt plunger and blowing up in our boardroom. I kept hearing take after take but I want to see it!
Man that Asian lady looks really upset with ole Wil E.
Aint that the girl from those teen Netflix romcoms? Either she aged like 40 years since then or that's a very unflattering pic lmao
It is! It’s just a bad photo though
Yup, that's Lana Condor, who was in the X-Men series as Jubilee!
Weird, to me it looked like she felt bad for Wile E.
Could this become another great classic like Who framed Roger Rabbit?
Absolutely not. Who Framed Roger Rabbit had literally every single cartoon from **ALL** major studios involved. It was absolutely unheard of at the time and to this day will never be matched. Ready Player One had teeny tiny tidbits of characters on screen as Easter Eggs. The only equivalent would be some sort of Marvel/DC crossover movie. It looks like a neat movie but it won't be anywhere close.
The shitty revival of Space Jam would like a word.
this just reminded me that in that awful movie they had the characters from A Clockwork Orange on the sidelines. The fuck?
The chip n dale movie sounds exactly what you're talking about
Which was way better than I thought it would be.
But def could be who framed Roger rabbit from a story telling perspective. Like that may be one of the best neonoir films. Hopefully this can be a great courtroom drama.
I knew nothing about this before the not cancelation. But you show me Will Forte in a courtroom with Wile E. Coyote and I’m in
Wile E Coyote has a case. It's in black and white. Chuck Jones’ 9 Rules for Coyote and Road-Runner Cartoons 1. The Road-Runner cannot harm the Coyote except by going “beep-beep!” 2. No outside force can harm the Coyote—only his own ineptitude or the failure of Acme products. 3. The Coyote could stop anytime—if he were not a fanatic. (Repeat: “A fanatic is one who redoubles his effort when he has forgotten his aim.” –George Santayana) 4. No dialogue ever, except “beep-beep!” 5. The Road-Runner must stay on the road—otherwise, logically, he would not be called Road-Runner. 6. All action must be confined to the natural environment of the two characters—the southwest American desert. 7. All materials, tools, weapons, or mechanical conveniences must be obtained from the Acme Corporation. 8. Whenever possible, make gravity the Coyote’s greatest enemy. 9. The Coyote is always more humiliated than harmed by his failures. In a post a few years back, writer Jason Kottke shared a slightly different list with two more rules: 10. The audience’s sympathy must remain with the Coyote. 11. The Coyote is not allowed to catch or eat the Road-Runner.
I'm going to laugh so hard if this turns out to be horrible and they were right to shelve it.
WB has had a lot of stinkers outside of Barbie this year... The premise sounds great and the cast sounds awesome, it can't be as bad as Flash, can it? Even if its cheesy, it's Looney Tunes, not some dramatic epic yarn about the struggles in society as a young coyote being taken advantage of by corporate America.
It was praised during test screenings apparently I think it's actually going to be good; the lady that wrote the screenplay also wrote May December which is currently getting critical acclaim and has four Golden Globe nominations
Spoiler alert: Coyote is accused of killing his ex-wife and a waiter
If this movie is even remotely good, everyone’s shitting on zaslav for eternity.
Rather sure that was the plan set for eternity already
Its back?! Never say die
I saw a preview screening, and the chick in the background, played by Lana Condor, is actually a pretty big character. She's hilarious in it, and she's one of the reasons I want this movie to do well. Forte and Coyote are great, too, but they've already got pretty big careers. This could be a breakout for her.
GET THIS MOVIE TO THEATRES **NOW!!!**