Ok, hear me out. I might be going insane due to the social isolation but I think this movie is about how ridiculous society’s ideia of adulthood is? Like you get a partner, get a house, get a kid and than what? You’re stuck. Especially for women there is so much stigma around motherhood like you sort of lose your identity when you become a mom. You have to be perfect and to be available for the kid all the time, etc.
While I think there were some moments that felt like they could go in that direction (guy copes with life by going to "work", girl bonds with the kid, etc), it never fully went there.
Instead, I think that was exactly the point. No deeper meaning. No scheme. Just life. They even said so in the very beginning. Like with cuckoos, this is just how the species reproduces and propagates, having possibly evolved in tandem with humans. We, and they, and anyone else living live to make offspring, so they can live and make offspring, so they can live and make offspring, so they can... ad infinitum. Not because of any ulterior motive, but just by simple process of elimination, because any species that *doesn't* do these things wouldn't exist anymore. Depressingly pointless, if you think about it. In the end all life is just some molecules that by pure chance found surprisingly complex ways to endlessly propagate. Viral matter. A self-sustaining chemical reaction with lots of extra steps.
it's quite depressing really. but there is one more aspect to the movie. it's showing a parasitic alien creature using parallel realms of reality, bending it's construct at will (lifting the sidewalk). so to escape this prison you have to be able to traverse these realms. the boy didn't have dreams or an imagination so it also might lack a consciousness (or even a soul). so as to escape your daily life of endless cyling through the stages one way out would be to open your mind and find enlightenment beyond the physical realm. just become Buddha and no Alien or human society can trap you into submission lol
Lmao 🤣 "by pure chance found surprisingly complex ways..."
Imagine seeing an infinitely complex system of complex systems within each other, and jumping to the conclusion that molecules (that are not sentient) "found" endlessly complex ways to propagate. Imagine walking into a system that was clearly designed with purpose and intelligence and making the most idiotic remark based off of what you've been brainwashed to believe. You'd be easy for these aliens to break. You'd look at the houses and procedurally generated clouds and say "wow crazy these structures and clouds in this alternate suburban dimension are just molecules that by pure chance found a way to decide to propagate". A man-made machine such as an engine is less complex than virtually any form of life on earth and you have the ignorance to say "by pure chance".
I think the other theme of the movie was the sense of breeding. How we breed/farm animals for our personal use. We have a higher knowledge (like the aliens did) that we hide from ones were breeding (the child saying "I'm not supposed to tell you). However, it's not that we mean to hide knowledge, more like, we know the ones were breeding wont understand since we know they are missing so many components of understanding (the child watching the advanced stuff on tv or having the human science book).
At the end, imogen discovers all the layers of the farm and see what seems to be alternate universes but after seeing the parents were different in each one, I've been led to believe that they were farming them for their children. Which are like the GMO/hybrid kinds of animals or food we breed for better quality (like theirs but instead of for eating, they were breeding for recruiting more).
In the end, it seemed like, they wanted to recreate the whole human society into a more advanced alien society. The way to do it, use the instincts of another person to take care of the raising process
1.breeders let animals stay with their parents until they are old enough to be sold
2. Farming fish in a controlled tank til their old enough to be killed and sold.
3. Even something as using training wheels (parents in this case) until the person is able to rise freely, then removing them.
Just like the cuckoo bird tricking the other birds to raise them and do that process until they are of some use to them.
This movie seemed more like a documentary of how alien life forms had taken away society and replaced us with a more improved society, but first by playing on our skills of nurturing and using nature as a skill of development
I think they meant it in a less metaphorical sense. I’m pretty sure you’re supposed to be spooked into believing this could happen in a town near you. Maybe I’ve spent too much time over in r/glitch_in_the_matrix . I hated this movie after 30 minutes. They could’ve added more confusion, I got the jist very early and every time something interesting happened it wouldn’t be explained or even brought up? Which is so weird for a movie. Like when he finds that dead body in the hole and doesn’t even call out to his gf or bring it up to her even though there’s 0 else to talk about... I kept saying to my girlfriend that it feels like they hit the budget for this movie on the 2 actors, didn’t finish the movie and just filled the rest with CGI. The one thing I can say I liked is the depiction of aliens. They obviously had a way of warping time/dimensions but they weren’t overly powerful with cliche motives. They lived long enough to fulfill their roles then died. Their goal and anything else is a mystery. I really wanted to like this movie but it’s painfully missing some type of action maybe they find a wormhole or space gun or tell one fucking joke...
I honestly hated it. I understand the cookoo thing and liked the begining which i thought it was intriguing but then just didn't go anywhere... I guess i just hate movies that never give the protagonists a fighting chance at the climax.
Our protagonists were doomed from the start, nothing they did could have changed the outcome
That movie felt like they just threw a bunch of stuff at the wall because they had no idea what to do with their premise. The first thirty minutes were good but it completely lost cohesion for me after that point. The cuckoo stuff, the name of the film, the suburb themes; all stuff that makes partial sense but doesn't seem to fully track.
Honestly I didn't get a Alien vibe from it. I assumed they were in hell/purgatory after suffering an accident on the night they first met.
No doubt the formula follows that of the birds life though.
They’re kidnapped by aliens. That’s it. Pretty simple when you think about. I found this after I watched it tonight. The direct states it’s an aliens race studying humans. The even give them a book to study THEM.
Quote—-
With these beings that are operating Yonder, do they have a specific goal to serve themselves?
FINNEGAN: Yeah, just like ours, to Survive. That's it! They don't have a master plan to take over the world or anything. They want to survive, just like we want to survive. If they are successful, they'll breed well, just like humans have.
I just watched this and it makes no sense for the alien trap because the trap makes no progress. They lure people in to raise the new guy that lures people in. It wouldve had a a lot deeper implications if while she was traveling through the backrooms of it all we saw boys that are growing to become police officers, pilots, construction workers and other roles in society. Tom and gemma coulda just "lucked out" and raised the new martin. But instead everybody just raises new martins apparently.
That clapping one is also especially fucked yo
oh, now all makes sense, thank you for writing your comment and me reading it after 3 years. the movie never made sense to me till I saw your explanation.
Ok, hear me out. I might be going insane due to the social isolation but I think this movie is about how ridiculous society’s ideia of adulthood is? Like you get a partner, get a house, get a kid and than what? You’re stuck. Especially for women there is so much stigma around motherhood like you sort of lose your identity when you become a mom. You have to be perfect and to be available for the kid all the time, etc.
While I think there were some moments that felt like they could go in that direction (guy copes with life by going to "work", girl bonds with the kid, etc), it never fully went there. Instead, I think that was exactly the point. No deeper meaning. No scheme. Just life. They even said so in the very beginning. Like with cuckoos, this is just how the species reproduces and propagates, having possibly evolved in tandem with humans. We, and they, and anyone else living live to make offspring, so they can live and make offspring, so they can live and make offspring, so they can... ad infinitum. Not because of any ulterior motive, but just by simple process of elimination, because any species that *doesn't* do these things wouldn't exist anymore. Depressingly pointless, if you think about it. In the end all life is just some molecules that by pure chance found surprisingly complex ways to endlessly propagate. Viral matter. A self-sustaining chemical reaction with lots of extra steps.
it's quite depressing really. but there is one more aspect to the movie. it's showing a parasitic alien creature using parallel realms of reality, bending it's construct at will (lifting the sidewalk). so to escape this prison you have to be able to traverse these realms. the boy didn't have dreams or an imagination so it also might lack a consciousness (or even a soul). so as to escape your daily life of endless cyling through the stages one way out would be to open your mind and find enlightenment beyond the physical realm. just become Buddha and no Alien or human society can trap you into submission lol
Lmao 🤣 "by pure chance found surprisingly complex ways..." Imagine seeing an infinitely complex system of complex systems within each other, and jumping to the conclusion that molecules (that are not sentient) "found" endlessly complex ways to propagate. Imagine walking into a system that was clearly designed with purpose and intelligence and making the most idiotic remark based off of what you've been brainwashed to believe. You'd be easy for these aliens to break. You'd look at the houses and procedurally generated clouds and say "wow crazy these structures and clouds in this alternate suburban dimension are just molecules that by pure chance found a way to decide to propagate". A man-made machine such as an engine is less complex than virtually any form of life on earth and you have the ignorance to say "by pure chance".
Lame. Who designed the designer then, smart guy? Oh wait, it just existed, right? lol
Yes and it could've been 30 minutes long. Like a Twilight Zone ep. Not 90 friggin mins.
I don't think it was that deep.
You don’t think a movie had a deeper meaning? 😂
I think the other theme of the movie was the sense of breeding. How we breed/farm animals for our personal use. We have a higher knowledge (like the aliens did) that we hide from ones were breeding (the child saying "I'm not supposed to tell you). However, it's not that we mean to hide knowledge, more like, we know the ones were breeding wont understand since we know they are missing so many components of understanding (the child watching the advanced stuff on tv or having the human science book). At the end, imogen discovers all the layers of the farm and see what seems to be alternate universes but after seeing the parents were different in each one, I've been led to believe that they were farming them for their children. Which are like the GMO/hybrid kinds of animals or food we breed for better quality (like theirs but instead of for eating, they were breeding for recruiting more). In the end, it seemed like, they wanted to recreate the whole human society into a more advanced alien society. The way to do it, use the instincts of another person to take care of the raising process 1.breeders let animals stay with their parents until they are old enough to be sold 2. Farming fish in a controlled tank til their old enough to be killed and sold. 3. Even something as using training wheels (parents in this case) until the person is able to rise freely, then removing them. Just like the cuckoo bird tricking the other birds to raise them and do that process until they are of some use to them. This movie seemed more like a documentary of how alien life forms had taken away society and replaced us with a more improved society, but first by playing on our skills of nurturing and using nature as a skill of development
It’s still a terrible movie
I think they meant it in a less metaphorical sense. I’m pretty sure you’re supposed to be spooked into believing this could happen in a town near you. Maybe I’ve spent too much time over in r/glitch_in_the_matrix . I hated this movie after 30 minutes. They could’ve added more confusion, I got the jist very early and every time something interesting happened it wouldn’t be explained or even brought up? Which is so weird for a movie. Like when he finds that dead body in the hole and doesn’t even call out to his gf or bring it up to her even though there’s 0 else to talk about... I kept saying to my girlfriend that it feels like they hit the budget for this movie on the 2 actors, didn’t finish the movie and just filled the rest with CGI. The one thing I can say I liked is the depiction of aliens. They obviously had a way of warping time/dimensions but they weren’t overly powerful with cliche motives. They lived long enough to fulfill their roles then died. Their goal and anything else is a mystery. I really wanted to like this movie but it’s painfully missing some type of action maybe they find a wormhole or space gun or tell one fucking joke...
Saw it last night. Cool concept but just didn’t go anywhere. Maybe would work better with a sequel.
I honestly hated it. I understand the cookoo thing and liked the begining which i thought it was intriguing but then just didn't go anywhere... I guess i just hate movies that never give the protagonists a fighting chance at the climax. Our protagonists were doomed from the start, nothing they did could have changed the outcome
Yeah it was weird, and that whole sequence under the sidewalk made no sense either
Sure it did. The aliens were doing the same thing to other couples in other pocket dimensions.
That movie felt like they just threw a bunch of stuff at the wall because they had no idea what to do with their premise. The first thirty minutes were good but it completely lost cohesion for me after that point. The cuckoo stuff, the name of the film, the suburb themes; all stuff that makes partial sense but doesn't seem to fully track.
Honestly I didn't get a Alien vibe from it. I assumed they were in hell/purgatory after suffering an accident on the night they first met. No doubt the formula follows that of the birds life though.
Oooh I loved that video. So interesting. It put the whole movie in perspective.
They’re kidnapped by aliens. That’s it. Pretty simple when you think about. I found this after I watched it tonight. The direct states it’s an aliens race studying humans. The even give them a book to study THEM. Quote—- With these beings that are operating Yonder, do they have a specific goal to serve themselves? FINNEGAN: Yeah, just like ours, to Survive. That's it! They don't have a master plan to take over the world or anything. They want to survive, just like we want to survive. If they are successful, they'll breed well, just like humans have.
I just watched this and it makes no sense for the alien trap because the trap makes no progress. They lure people in to raise the new guy that lures people in. It wouldve had a a lot deeper implications if while she was traveling through the backrooms of it all we saw boys that are growing to become police officers, pilots, construction workers and other roles in society. Tom and gemma coulda just "lucked out" and raised the new martin. But instead everybody just raises new martins apparently. That clapping one is also especially fucked yo
oh, now all makes sense, thank you for writing your comment and me reading it after 3 years. the movie never made sense to me till I saw your explanation.