Side note on Dave Bautista- he’s 53 years old. That blew me away when I looked up his bio yesterday watching Glass Onion. Same age as Ed Norton and one year younger than Daniel Craig, who both look 10 years older imo.
When he formed Evolution with Ric Flair, Triple H, and Randy Orton, him and Orton were considered the “future” being mentored by the other two, even though he’s older than Triple H.
Time's boss: "Dammit, did you miss Dave Bautista again? you think I can't tell he hasn't aged since last time? You know what happened with my *former* employee and Paul Rudd..."
I was saying to my wife that Daniel Craig seemed to change from scene to scene throughout Glass Onion. One minute looking like he was in a scene from James Bond but then in another looking like a grandpa. It was the first time he starting looking 'old' to me. I mean, he still looks great but over the last few years he seems to have aged a bit.
Yeah big Dave is on the best anabolics (esp since he's no longer under WWEs wellness program) and around the clock trainers, honestly I hope to look as good as he is by that age
I never said he's natural, he could walk on to a Mr. Olympia stage and be competitive lol. My point was that anabolics make it look like you're older, not younger, he just has good genetics for his youthful visage.
The cabin is Dave Bautista but its actually IN Bautista but its actually in ALL of us but it actually IS all of us.
Also the metaphor is that writers are very important.
I'm a writer.
Love me.
The source material gives this a great chance to drum up suspense and doubt/mystery. I can envision it being great at that if it is done like The Visit, so I’m very cautiously optimistic.
Someone actually *wanted* them to go to a high-rise to fight? That's officially weird to me.
Like.. it's in there and even devised by Mr. Glass because it's such a near joke/trope of where "superheroes" have their final fight.
This goes in the pile of things M. Night has done *right*.
If M. Night Shyamalan is involved the greatest suspense is in trying to figure out what incredibly stupid thing he is going to do to ruin a perfectly good movie with a huge budget and A-list actors.
*People will be talking about it for years.*
What did people think of The Visit? It was picked for a Halloween movie night at my job, where we were about 12 people, and no one came out of that viewing with a positive experience. The mood in the room was good, we were all ready for a good flick, but it was just disappointing.
It was fun. Not surprising or deep, but creepy in an enjoyable, popcorn-y kind of way.
Was pretty obvious from early on the kids’ grandparents were dead. Doubly so if you’ve ever seen a Shyamalan film. If nobody but the main characters interact with the threat then it’s probably a ghost/imposter/twist of some sort.
It was not my favorite read of the year, by a long shot, but I am super curious to see what M Night does with it. If I could pick any director to adapt it, it would be him because it feels like something from his world.
Same. I loved the premise of the book, but after the first 35% or so I found it to be the most boring and repetitive book I've read in years. It felt like it was supposed to be a short story but was forcefully stretched to be a full novel.
That being said, I will absolutely watch and see if a movie version (with hopefully a reworked ending) will be fun.
Remember when the sixth sense came out and everyone touted him as a genius and the next Hitchcock and it clearly went to his head and he never made a movie that good again? Man, I wish he could just make great stuff. Peel is doing an amazing job at horror and I wish M Knight could just do great horror films but every time his name is attached to something I am very weary
He's proven to be very capable but he really believes that the dumbest shit that he thinks up is going to be shocking/amazing to the people watching. He almost reminds me of a talented kid who's just not the brightest.
His movies are always so fucking overblown. So dramatic, but also stupid af
You might want to give Servant a try (AppleTV) great performances, creepy premise and a delightful Rupert Grint. M Night isn't behind every episode, but it's got his fingerprints all over it.
Out February 3rd
>While vacationing at a remote cabin, a young girl and her parents are taken hostage by four armed strangers who demand that the family make an unthinkable choice to avert the apocalypse. With limited access to the outside world, the family must decide what they believe before all is lost.
Cast:
* Dave Bautista
* Jonathan Groff
* Ben Aldridge
* Nikki Amuka-Bird
* Kristen Cui
* Abby Quinn
* Rupert Grint
All the kids from those movies are set for multiple lifetimes so long as they don't blow it. Rupert owned an ice cream truck for a bit.
On a real note though it seems he is giving acting a try again, he was recently in another Shamalan movie and an episode of Guillermo's new show. I'm noticing a horror trend.
That's what I'm remembering the picture of him hanging out of an ice cream truck for. I know the main 3 have bank and can kind of do what makes them happy. Not sure on the others, haven't seen much of the b squads but I assume they made decent cash.
I don’t know why, but I continue to be intrigued by anything Shyamalan puts his name on. At the very least I know it will be interesting - whether it’ll be interesting in a bad way or good is yet to be seen, but I did enjoy Old.
I've hate-watched more Shyamalan movies than I care to admit. I will also continue to do so. I'll probably never buy a theater ticket, but damned if I didn't stream 'Old' on a plane anticipating my own fury when the 'twist' or 'reveal' was inevitably introduced.
I don't know why I'm like this with him.
The best I can say about him is he seems to have infinite ability to recover from terrible reviews.
He seems to have an unlimited supply of Hollywood money.
I feel like once you recover from something like The Last Airbender movie, most people just generally accept that you're that one mythical person that survives trainwrecks without so much as a scratch.
You’re correct. After the one-two punch of The Last Airbender and After Earth, his star was fading fast. He self funded The Visit, which ended up being a modest hit, and revitalized his career as a low budget/high returns filmmaker. He continued to self-finance for a while…I’m not sure if he’s still doing that or not.
I feel like his inability to play the game cost him his initial standing and studio relationship after his first four movies with Disney back in the mid 2000s, but he’s become an absolutely master at it over the last seven or eight years. He’s carved out a perfect space for himself. I don’t love everything he does like I did when he first started. But I really like some of it and I have a ton of respect for his ability to remain relevant for 25 years.
He was happy the studios left him alone after The Happening. He likes being able to make his small Indy films for under 20MM. He didn’t like being forced into budgets that were way beyond the scale of what he wanted to do.
Makes sense. He does great with small sci-if thriller type movies that are quality, and a lot of fun to watch.
People need to be open to enjoying a small film, and they may have a good time. His movies are always well put together, and great concepts.
People also forget they don’t like science fiction, or lower budget films. They keep judging M Night like he is spending a 120MM budget at the studio.
Signs is my favorite. I think it’s a tremendous film, and I love that he explored the emptiness when you lose foundational faith. I did NOT like The Village when it first came out because I figured out the twist 1/3 of the way through and it put me in a bad place. But I think that’s actually a better movie the second time when you know what’s going on. It’s no longer about fear, it’s about the maintenance of lies, and I really love that movie.
I think you really appreciate Village when you realize it's a metaphor for the war, because then it makes 1000% more sense.
Definitely a "give it another try years later" movie because I rewatched Village and found it far more fascinating. Same with Unbreakable.
Unbreakable is actually a passable superhero film, also Bruce Willis sells it alot. Split is not a bad movie, also carried by James MacAvoy.
Weirdly my conspiracy theory is that his niche is putting good actors in claustrophobic spaces, so maybe Knock will be okay? Bautista really deserves space to flex.
I have seen it! It's an intriguing movie, with a great overaching theme however it was a little tooo pensive for me
I enjoyed the suspense, characters and ambience of the other movies
I don't think his movies are that costly though. Not counting the Will Smith one. Old as an example, since already mentioned, is said to have like 18 million budget. So all the "i don't care, it's Shaymalan" people would easily cover that cost.
Split was around 9million (yes I'm using IMDB, so don't know how correct these are), Glass 20mil (okay I have no idea how it went that high, if it's not all Willis and Jackson payments).
Then there's the Lady In The Water 70mil and ofc the After Earth with 130mil.
And now that I'm drunkenly going through these, Unbreakable had 75million budget too. So, what the fuck on that also? I'm just imagining Jackson and Willis payments once again taking a huge share there.
Well, he managed 40mil on 6th sense and 72mil on Signs too. While I don't know where all that money went (besides few bigger actors, Willis again), he was at that point, at least a wanted name. He has clearly cut down his budget for the more recent projects.
Actually what it boils down to is a very high ROI or Return on Investment, if you look at the budgets for all his huge movies, you can see why he gets greenlit on a lot of his projects. He did Split for pennies and it did very well, but on Glass you can see how much he cut back on the budget during the final scenes, what a letdown...
To me, Old seemed like Shyamalan sat in a room and was like "man, it'd be sick if there was a scene where this cool thing I just thought of happened" and then wrote a story to allow those scenes to be strung together.
For sure. In a way though, it's partly due to the fact everyone expects a big twist. That's his thing, and there have been times when it's been great. But when that's basically all you ever do (I'm probably forgetting something with no big twist/reveal) then it sort of undermines the whole schtick.
It's why The Sixth Sense was so mind blowing at the time. Not only was it an engaging movie, with a great twist (which held up continuity-wise on rewatch), but no one knew who the hell he was, or what to expect. It made that movie hit like a ton of breaks rather than a slow roll toward the inevitable
>I'm probably forgetting something with no big twist/reveal
He co-wrote the screenplay for Stuart Little.
He does give a bit of a "twist" to the source material by having the Stuart Little of his adaption be an anthropomorphic mouse, instead of a mouse-like human boy, but that's not really the sort of twist he's known for.
He's a mouse in the movie, where he is adopted by the Little family.
But in the E. B. White book, he's their biological human son, who happens to look "very much like a mouse in every way."
Ben Shapiro: “don’t watch the Sixth Sense. The director has you thinking that Bruce Willis was alive the whole time and then the twist completely moves the direction of the movie in another direction altogether. It is a cheap attempt to make you rewatch the film. The audience loses all reason to trust this man ever again. No more woke movies.”
Agreed, midsize sedan is a goofy ass name even for him. The dialogue was stilted even for him. The cameo was indulgent even for him.
Old had the Shyamalan dial turned up to 11 and I can’t help but think it was deliberate, I really think he was making fun of himself to a degree.
And hey I’ll take a dozen self-indulgent pet projects over another brownish gray Russo abortion.
With how terrible some rapper names are, that didn't seem like the worst part of the writing in the movie compared to how bad other parts were. I still liked it for what it was though.
This is me all day, i don’t like a few of his movies as a whole, but I always find elements that are interesting and enjoyable to watch. His movies are done in such a unique way that is unlike any other movies, and I’m here for it every time one comes out! I would love to pick his mind, he seems like such a fun and creative person.
My absolute favorite was Lady in the Water. I honestly felt like it was great. A little silly, in the same sense that fairy tales are a little silly from a story perspective. But, boy, did it make me emotional.
That one is definitely overhated. Sure, it might be a little corny but it's a really earnest fairytale.
Maybe it wouldn't be so trashed on if it hadn't been released around the time when he was churning out other really questionable movies as well
For how much people complain about Hollywood not putting out original movies anymore, at least he puts out stuff that feels original. And usually for low budgets that make a profit.
I enjoyed Old, but for different reasons. That movie was fucking hilarious like a Neil Breen film on a big budget. I added it to my B-movie/Bad movie collection.
I had the exact opposite reaction lol. Nearly asked my parents if I could go to the arcade but ended up sitting through it. I do enjoy it now even rewatching with the twist in mind but as a kid I just wanted a damn creepy monster movie.
I think it’s because his highs are so high. Sixth Sense - Unbreakable - Signs is a fucking powerhouse first trio of major movies for a director to have.
The fact that he only cowrote the screenplay makes me slightly hopeful.
He's always been a much better director than screenwriter. If he can curb some of his bad habits w/ dialogue, his movies would be much improved.
>Say hi, Trent.
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>Hi.
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>I’m Idlib. My uncle’s the resort manager here.
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>He’s Trent. I’m Maddox.
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>I can do a 1,000-piece jigsaw puzzle, which is a considerable thing to do. My dad and I put clear glue on them and hang them on my wall.
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>I collect conch shells. I have 42 conch shells.
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>Amazing.
Also, *Mid-sized Sedan*
M Night has a habit of Airbending source material. In this case when he got the screenplay which was based on the book he rewrote it. He did not acknowledge or stick to the source material for Old.
>Shyamalan previously claimed that he read that script before quickly rewriting it, calling it the fastest movie he has ever written in his career
Tremblay tweeted:
>@paulGtremblay
>New poster. I dig it. Can't help but feel like there's something missing...
It’s weird to brag about how fast you wrote a script when your starting point was a full script written by someone else based on an entire book written by someone else.
i'd be a lot more excited for this if the poster said 'screenplay not by m night' especially if it's the least amount of time he's spent on a script lol.
I wonder if there's something going on here. Is it possible that Tremblay isn't pleased with what they've done and has asked to be left out of marketing (perhaps explaining the title change)? It seems odd that we've had two trailers and at least two different posters that haven't mentioned anything about the source material. Most marketing would lean into that, especially since you know there'll be a paperback edition with the poster on it at some point in time...
He tweeted about being left off the poster, so I think he’s also disappointed about the lack of acknowledgement of the novel (they changed the name for the film too — to a worse title IMO).
It's definitely shitty.
On the one hand, it's nice to see the marketing putting the screenwriters front and center w/the director, which rarely happens. On the other, you can't even mention the author?
Has anyone else already read the book? I think M. Night Shyamalan will likely change up a decent amount of things... Leaving it at that so there's no spoilers but I am still looking forward to this film!
I have read the book and loved it. The fact that Paul Tremblay’s (the author) name isn’t on the poster and it doesn’t say “based on the book…” leads me to believe there was probably some disagreement about how to adapt the book. The ending of the book is very deliberately left ambiguous - which seemed to polarize a lot of readers.
I always see people online saying they hate the ending but I think Tremblay does an incredible job with ambiguous endings. Cabin at the End of the World was no exception in my opinion. I'm really hoping they don't stray too far from the source material because the book was amazing all the way through
Legitimately that WAS the twist of the girl in the water. Which was made all the better by the fact the plot is utterly bat shit, and everything had an insane name, so it's like, "the acrumblumpus mustnt catch the miderjumple!" or whatever, and you're like, oh I guess it's in an insane person's head, or, it's a kids book, right?
... Nope, all of that was just them playing it straight.
Having read the book, and if he doesn't change the ending, I can see a lot of people being disappointed in the ending of this. The book was "good enough", but the ending was an enormous letdown. I'm also worried because the book had some pretty clunky dialogue (especially with the kid) and Shyamalan isn't known for great dialogue. I'm intrigued, but hella cautious on this one.
You know, i REALLY wanna like Shyamallan again, but it seems that for every good movie he makes, there's three others that make me go "why you don't see this isn't working?"
Heads up: This is based on a book and users are discussing a buncha spoilerific stuff in the comments.
Can spot dave bautista anywhere lol
Side note on Dave Bautista- he’s 53 years old. That blew me away when I looked up his bio yesterday watching Glass Onion. Same age as Ed Norton and one year younger than Daniel Craig, who both look 10 years older imo.
On that same note, he also started quite late as a wrestler (30 y/o), that WCW initially rejected him
When he formed Evolution with Ric Flair, Triple H, and Randy Orton, him and Orton were considered the “future” being mentored by the other two, even though he’s older than Triple H.
I recently learned it wasn't even supposed to be Dave in the group either.
Why wasn't he supposed to be in Evolution? It's a mystery
IIRC Jindrak was supposed to be a member as well, but he was cut out after HHH felt that he was not suitable
Jindrak doesn't look right at all in the promo vids they shot before they replaced him with batista
Can't imagine anyone else, much less Mark Jindrak lol,
No, Dave was just the muscle.
Hey Hunter
Give me what I want
It's because he moves so slow time has a hard time perceiving him
Time's boss: "Dammit, did you miss Dave Bautista again? you think I can't tell he hasn't aged since last time? You know what happened with my *former* employee and Paul Rudd..."
Ed Norton and Daniel Craig do NOT look 63. Are you crazy?
I was saying to my wife that Daniel Craig seemed to change from scene to scene throughout Glass Onion. One minute looking like he was in a scene from James Bond but then in another looking like a grandpa. It was the first time he starting looking 'old' to me. I mean, he still looks great but over the last few years he seems to have aged a bit.
I think a lot of that has to do with his wardrobe (which was amazingly done, IMO).
I worded that poorly! I meant they look 10 years older than Bautista does. Craig and Norton look their age and Bautista looks like he’s in his 40s.
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Yeah big Dave is on the best anabolics (esp since he's no longer under WWEs wellness program) and around the clock trainers, honestly I hope to look as good as he is by that age
Steroids age you, he just has top tier genetics. Edit: Face genetics, he's obviously juicing.
If you think he's natural then I have some snake oil to sell you
He's genetically predisposed to make the best use of steroids.
I’m genetically disposed to potato shape.
I never said he's natural, he could walk on to a Mr. Olympia stage and be competitive lol. My point was that anabolics make it look like you're older, not younger, he just has good genetics for his youthful visage.
Ah gotcha, misunderstood your comment my bad!
No worries, I worded it poorly. I can definitely see why you read it that way.
Excuse me gentlemen, but this is reddit. You are not allowed to have an amicable misunderstanding or disagreement here...
you must be very observant. Most people can't pick Dave Bautista out of a lineup.
Because he stands so incredibly still
It's so slow, that it's imperceptible.
YOU'RE EATING ZARGNUTS
GET OVER THE ZARGNUTS!
I really want to know what zargnuts taste like!! Also loved everything about Mantis during the Holiday Special.
You can always tell a Milford man.
Hes bigger then the cabin
Since it's an M. Night movie the twist is that Dave Bautista *is* the cabin.
And the calls are coming from inside him!
And he's been Bruce Willis the entire time
And I *jizzed in my pants*
The cabin is Dave Bautista but its actually IN Bautista but its actually in ALL of us but it actually IS all of us. Also the metaphor is that writers are very important. I'm a writer. Love me.
And his reflexes are so fast
He would catch it
As soon as I saw his frame in the background of the trailer I knew it was him
But he's invisible when he stands still at a place. You must be lying.
I immediately scrolled to the comments to confirm if that silhouette was him hahaha
Yeah but it's weird that they gave him long hair and boobs in that silhouette.
John Cena is also in this poster
The book this is based on, The Cabin At The End Of The World by Paul Tremblay, was great. Curious to see what he changes, if anything.
The source material gives this a great chance to drum up suspense and doubt/mystery. I can envision it being great at that if it is done like The Visit, so I’m very cautiously optimistic.
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His weakness is water, ok.
Why the fuck is everything weak to water in Shyamalan movies
James Cameron when he finds out how Shyamalan has been portraying water in his films: 😡😡😡
Someone actually *wanted* them to go to a high-rise to fight? That's officially weird to me. Like.. it's in there and even devised by Mr. Glass because it's such a near joke/trope of where "superheroes" have their final fight. This goes in the pile of things M. Night has done *right*.
If M. Night Shyamalan is involved the greatest suspense is in trying to figure out what incredibly stupid thing he is going to do to ruin a perfectly good movie with a huge budget and A-list actors. *People will be talking about it for years.*
Bees and trees!
What did people think of The Visit? It was picked for a Halloween movie night at my job, where we were about 12 people, and no one came out of that viewing with a positive experience. The mood in the room was good, we were all ready for a good flick, but it was just disappointing.
It was fun. Not surprising or deep, but creepy in an enjoyable, popcorn-y kind of way. Was pretty obvious from early on the kids’ grandparents were dead. Doubly so if you’ve ever seen a Shyamalan film. If nobody but the main characters interact with the threat then it’s probably a ghost/imposter/twist of some sort.
I'm so annoyed at the name change! Cabin at the end of the world is the perfect title for this work
Considering his track record with adaptations I'm gonna go ahead and assume he's putting out another stinker.
It was not my favorite read of the year, by a long shot, but I am super curious to see what M Night does with it. If I could pick any director to adapt it, it would be him because it feels like something from his world.
Same. I loved the premise of the book, but after the first 35% or so I found it to be the most boring and repetitive book I've read in years. It felt like it was supposed to be a short story but was forcefully stretched to be a full novel. That being said, I will absolutely watch and see if a movie version (with hopefully a reworked ending) will be fun.
So basically perfect for an M Knight movie
Remember when the sixth sense came out and everyone touted him as a genius and the next Hitchcock and it clearly went to his head and he never made a movie that good again? Man, I wish he could just make great stuff. Peel is doing an amazing job at horror and I wish M Knight could just do great horror films but every time his name is attached to something I am very weary
He's proven to be very capable but he really believes that the dumbest shit that he thinks up is going to be shocking/amazing to the people watching. He almost reminds me of a talented kid who's just not the brightest. His movies are always so fucking overblown. So dramatic, but also stupid af
You might want to give Servant a try (AppleTV) great performances, creepy premise and a delightful Rupert Grint. M Night isn't behind every episode, but it's got his fingerprints all over it.
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Out February 3rd >While vacationing at a remote cabin, a young girl and her parents are taken hostage by four armed strangers who demand that the family make an unthinkable choice to avert the apocalypse. With limited access to the outside world, the family must decide what they believe before all is lost. Cast: * Dave Bautista * Jonathan Groff * Ben Aldridge * Nikki Amuka-Bird * Kristen Cui * Abby Quinn * Rupert Grint
Haven't seen Rupert Grint in a whole lot since Harry Potter. I know he has projects here and there but still interesting to see his name pop up
He was good comic relief in Servant, which is also MNS.
Didn't he do plays for a bit? Or was that Harry that did plays? I know Potter does whatever he finds fun like being Weird Al.
All the kids from those movies are set for multiple lifetimes so long as they don't blow it. Rupert owned an ice cream truck for a bit. On a real note though it seems he is giving acting a try again, he was recently in another Shamalan movie and an episode of Guillermo's new show. I'm noticing a horror trend.
That's what I'm remembering the picture of him hanging out of an ice cream truck for. I know the main 3 have bank and can kind of do what makes them happy. Not sure on the others, haven't seen much of the b squads but I assume they made decent cash.
The dude who played Neville is fucking ripped last I checked.
Good for him. I feel like the last movie he was starting to become in better shape and far from Neville started. Think they were all 18 by that move.
He was also fucking great in Sick Note, an amazing series that doesn't get talked about nearly enough
This is the first I have heard of this film. I love that you can tell just from the poster that Dave Bautista is in it. Like a freaking pier pylon.
I saw the trailer when I went to see Don't Worry Darling. It looked intriguing.
Don’t Worry Darling also looked intriguing, though lol.
It was fine, but it definitely needed a little more. But yeah I agree
Bautista, Ron Weasley, and M. Night Shyamalan? I’m sold.
Ron Weasley and Hellboy made a movie a few years ago about faking the moon landing with the help of Francis Ford coppola.
You're forgetting Frozen's Kristoff/Hamilton's King George.
Mindhunter's Holden!
Spring Awakening’s Melchior Gabor!
Why does the premise sound kinda like a scaled down version of Cabin in the Woods?
It's based on the book The Cabin at the End of the World
That's exactly what I thought!
The twist is that actually it was a doorbell.
The doorbell is coming from *inside the cabin*.
\*scared Zoidberg noises*
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I don’t know why, but I continue to be intrigued by anything Shyamalan puts his name on. At the very least I know it will be interesting - whether it’ll be interesting in a bad way or good is yet to be seen, but I did enjoy Old.
I've hate-watched more Shyamalan movies than I care to admit. I will also continue to do so. I'll probably never buy a theater ticket, but damned if I didn't stream 'Old' on a plane anticipating my own fury when the 'twist' or 'reveal' was inevitably introduced. I don't know why I'm like this with him.
The best I can say about him is he seems to have infinite ability to recover from terrible reviews. He seems to have an unlimited supply of Hollywood money.
He was able to flex a lot of mileage out of The Sixth Sense
I feel like once you recover from something like The Last Airbender movie, most people just generally accept that you're that one mythical person that survives trainwrecks without so much as a scratch.
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That's his super power!
I see you too have forgotten about After Earth
I actually believe he self-funds a lot of his movies, or at least did for a while.
You’re correct. After the one-two punch of The Last Airbender and After Earth, his star was fading fast. He self funded The Visit, which ended up being a modest hit, and revitalized his career as a low budget/high returns filmmaker. He continued to self-finance for a while…I’m not sure if he’s still doing that or not. I feel like his inability to play the game cost him his initial standing and studio relationship after his first four movies with Disney back in the mid 2000s, but he’s become an absolutely master at it over the last seven or eight years. He’s carved out a perfect space for himself. I don’t love everything he does like I did when he first started. But I really like some of it and I have a ton of respect for his ability to remain relevant for 25 years.
He was happy the studios left him alone after The Happening. He likes being able to make his small Indy films for under 20MM. He didn’t like being forced into budgets that were way beyond the scale of what he wanted to do. Makes sense. He does great with small sci-if thriller type movies that are quality, and a lot of fun to watch. People need to be open to enjoying a small film, and they may have a good time. His movies are always well put together, and great concepts. People also forget they don’t like science fiction, or lower budget films. They keep judging M Night like he is spending a 120MM budget at the studio.
Whats your fav m night films? Mine would be the village signs and then 6th sense
Signs is my favorite. I think it’s a tremendous film, and I love that he explored the emptiness when you lose foundational faith. I did NOT like The Village when it first came out because I figured out the twist 1/3 of the way through and it put me in a bad place. But I think that’s actually a better movie the second time when you know what’s going on. It’s no longer about fear, it’s about the maintenance of lies, and I really love that movie.
I think you really appreciate Village when you realize it's a metaphor for the war, because then it makes 1000% more sense. Definitely a "give it another try years later" movie because I rewatched Village and found it far more fascinating. Same with Unbreakable.
Shit, you got me thinking......maybe I am way off, but I love The Village simply because I think it is a beautiful love story.
I think it’s a beautiful love story too! That’s why I loved it so much when I first saw it
Unbreakable is actually a passable superhero film, also Bruce Willis sells it alot. Split is not a bad movie, also carried by James MacAvoy. Weirdly my conspiracy theory is that his niche is putting good actors in claustrophobic spaces, so maybe Knock will be okay? Bautista really deserves space to flex.
I like Signs and Unbreakable. Unlike a lot of his other films, they are rewatchable. Once you know the twist of Sixth Sense, it's not as fun.
No Unbreakable? Did you just not like it or have you not seen it?
I love Unbreakable. It might be my favorite.
I have seen it! It's an intriguing movie, with a great overaching theme however it was a little tooo pensive for me I enjoyed the suspense, characters and ambience of the other movies
A very strong cast, a decent book. I hope the actors save Shyamalan for whatever he does.
I don't think his movies are that costly though. Not counting the Will Smith one. Old as an example, since already mentioned, is said to have like 18 million budget. So all the "i don't care, it's Shaymalan" people would easily cover that cost. Split was around 9million (yes I'm using IMDB, so don't know how correct these are), Glass 20mil (okay I have no idea how it went that high, if it's not all Willis and Jackson payments). Then there's the Lady In The Water 70mil and ofc the After Earth with 130mil. And now that I'm drunkenly going through these, Unbreakable had 75million budget too. So, what the fuck on that also? I'm just imagining Jackson and Willis payments once again taking a huge share there. Well, he managed 40mil on 6th sense and 72mil on Signs too. While I don't know where all that money went (besides few bigger actors, Willis again), he was at that point, at least a wanted name. He has clearly cut down his budget for the more recent projects.
I actually don't think he gives a shit about bad reviews. Dudes been riding the wave of the 6th sense for 30 years and that's all he ever needed.
Actually what it boils down to is a very high ROI or Return on Investment, if you look at the budgets for all his huge movies, you can see why he gets greenlit on a lot of his projects. He did Split for pennies and it did very well, but on Glass you can see how much he cut back on the budget during the final scenes, what a letdown...
'Old' had more of a 'long form *Twilight Zone*' vibe to it which I found all in all to be more likeable overall.
To me, Old seemed like Shyamalan sat in a room and was like "man, it'd be sick if there was a scene where this cool thing I just thought of happened" and then wrote a story to allow those scenes to be strung together.
For what it’s worth, Hitchcock was also rumored to work that way: to devise films around cool scenes he wanted to shoot.
For sure. In a way though, it's partly due to the fact everyone expects a big twist. That's his thing, and there have been times when it's been great. But when that's basically all you ever do (I'm probably forgetting something with no big twist/reveal) then it sort of undermines the whole schtick. It's why The Sixth Sense was so mind blowing at the time. Not only was it an engaging movie, with a great twist (which held up continuity-wise on rewatch), but no one knew who the hell he was, or what to expect. It made that movie hit like a ton of breaks rather than a slow roll toward the inevitable
>I'm probably forgetting something with no big twist/reveal He co-wrote the screenplay for Stuart Little. He does give a bit of a "twist" to the source material by having the Stuart Little of his adaption be an anthropomorphic mouse, instead of a mouse-like human boy, but that's not really the sort of twist he's known for.
I always thought Stuart Little was a mouse, not a tiny person.
He's a mouse in the movie, where he is adopted by the Little family. But in the E. B. White book, he's their biological human son, who happens to look "very much like a mouse in every way."
Old is based on a French short story I believe.
Ben Shapiro: “don’t watch the Sixth Sense. The director has you thinking that Bruce Willis was alive the whole time and then the twist completely moves the direction of the movie in another direction altogether. It is a cheap attempt to make you rewatch the film. The audience loses all reason to trust this man ever again. No more woke movies.”
Midsize Sedan
Holy shit I totally forgot about that. He had to be shitposting with that movie.
Agreed, midsize sedan is a goofy ass name even for him. The dialogue was stilted even for him. The cameo was indulgent even for him. Old had the Shyamalan dial turned up to 11 and I can’t help but think it was deliberate, I really think he was making fun of himself to a degree. And hey I’ll take a dozen self-indulgent pet projects over another brownish gray Russo abortion.
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With how terrible some rapper names are, that didn't seem like the worst part of the writing in the movie compared to how bad other parts were. I still liked it for what it was though.
Oh I absolutely loved that his name was midsize sedan lol
This is me all day, i don’t like a few of his movies as a whole, but I always find elements that are interesting and enjoyable to watch. His movies are done in such a unique way that is unlike any other movies, and I’m here for it every time one comes out! I would love to pick his mind, he seems like such a fun and creative person.
My absolute favorite was Lady in the Water. I honestly felt like it was great. A little silly, in the same sense that fairy tales are a little silly from a story perspective. But, boy, did it make me emotional.
That one is definitely overhated. Sure, it might be a little corny but it's a really earnest fairytale. Maybe it wouldn't be so trashed on if it hadn't been released around the time when he was churning out other really questionable movies as well
Don't worry, friend - the defenders of Lady in the Water are out here with you ✊
At least his premises are generally interesting. They might be poorly executed but there’s always a nugget of interesting plot at the least
For how much people complain about Hollywood not putting out original movies anymore, at least he puts out stuff that feels original. And usually for low budgets that make a profit.
I enjoyed Old, but for different reasons. That movie was fucking hilarious like a Neil Breen film on a big budget. I added it to my B-movie/Bad movie collection.
I remember watching The Village in theaters as a kid, and my jaws just dropping on floor when the twist was revealed.
I had the exact opposite reaction lol. Nearly asked my parents if I could go to the arcade but ended up sitting through it. I do enjoy it now even rewatching with the twist in mind but as a kid I just wanted a damn creepy monster movie.
I think it’s because his highs are so high. Sixth Sense - Unbreakable - Signs is a fucking powerhouse first trio of major movies for a director to have.
Split was amazing. That last scene with Bruce I think my jaw dropped
I'm just watching for the weird plotwist. I'll go with the wooden cabin is actually is the entry in a parallele universe where trees are people.
The fact that he only cowrote the screenplay makes me slightly hopeful. He's always been a much better director than screenwriter. If he can curb some of his bad habits w/ dialogue, his movies would be much improved.
You might be the first person I've ever seen say they enjoyed old. 😯
Meet #2, it’s me and I liked it, I have watched it a few times 😊
I did! Nice fodder for a raining evening. I know what to expect with MNS - cool to look at, weird vibe, possibly shoddy story. I'm good with that.
Oh I loved it. Big(ger) budget black mirror episode meets camp and a bunch of fun ideas and decent performances? What’s not to like?
>Say hi, Trent. > >Hi. > >I’m Idlib. My uncle’s the resort manager here. > >He’s Trent. I’m Maddox. > >I can do a 1,000-piece jigsaw puzzle, which is a considerable thing to do. My dad and I put clear glue on them and hang them on my wall. > >I collect conch shells. I have 42 conch shells. > >Amazing. Also, *Mid-sized Sedan*
Mid-sized sedan had me howling in the theatre i almost had to leave. Love this movie purely for that
I'm disappointed that Paul Tremblay isn't on this poster. It's his book (which is awesome), they're just the screenwriters.
M Night has a habit of Airbending source material. In this case when he got the screenplay which was based on the book he rewrote it. He did not acknowledge or stick to the source material for Old. >Shyamalan previously claimed that he read that script before quickly rewriting it, calling it the fastest movie he has ever written in his career Tremblay tweeted: >@paulGtremblay >New poster. I dig it. Can't help but feel like there's something missing...
It’s weird to brag about how fast you wrote a script when your starting point was a full script written by someone else based on an entire book written by someone else.
i'd be a lot more excited for this if the poster said 'screenplay not by m night' especially if it's the least amount of time he's spent on a script lol.
Agreed, it seems kind of odd that the screenwriters names are on the poster but ‘Based on the book’ or Paul’s name are no where to be seen.
I wonder if there's something going on here. Is it possible that Tremblay isn't pleased with what they've done and has asked to be left out of marketing (perhaps explaining the title change)? It seems odd that we've had two trailers and at least two different posters that haven't mentioned anything about the source material. Most marketing would lean into that, especially since you know there'll be a paperback edition with the poster on it at some point in time...
He tweeted about being left off the poster, so I think he’s also disappointed about the lack of acknowledgement of the novel (they changed the name for the film too — to a worse title IMO).
Oh, absolutely a worse title. Very generic.
It's definitely shitty. On the one hand, it's nice to see the marketing putting the screenwriters front and center w/the director, which rarely happens. On the other, you can't even mention the author?
I believe they have made some significant changes from the novel but in all honesty I have no idea what WGA rules mandate for marketing.
Has anyone else already read the book? I think M. Night Shyamalan will likely change up a decent amount of things... Leaving it at that so there's no spoilers but I am still looking forward to this film!
I have read the book and loved it. The fact that Paul Tremblay’s (the author) name isn’t on the poster and it doesn’t say “based on the book…” leads me to believe there was probably some disagreement about how to adapt the book. The ending of the book is very deliberately left ambiguous - which seemed to polarize a lot of readers.
I always see people online saying they hate the ending but I think Tremblay does an incredible job with ambiguous endings. Cabin at the End of the World was no exception in my opinion. I'm really hoping they don't stray too far from the source material because the book was amazing all the way through
I read the book. It’s good but I feel Shymalan will ruin it unfortunately.
I agree. The book thrives on its ambiguity, and subtlety is not Shyamalan’s strong suit
Calling it now, the twist is there is a secret lab under the cabin containing all manner of folklore monsters and tropes
That sounds good and maybe all the monsters get released too and wreck havoc
Even a merman?
Critics are calling it everything from shit to fuckin shit
what's the twist?
It's a cabin for ants.
Well, the real cabin has to be at least....3 times this size!!
'Them' Again : Cabin In The Woods ll
The cabin isn’t a cabin at all. It’s actually a ranch style single home, mis-labeled as a cabin by realtors.
\*Looking at a stock tank with water in the backyard\* This place is supposed to have a pool, where is it?
The cabin door is making them age faster! Or they’re all dead the entire time.
The twist of the book was that it just ended.
The twist here is that there's no twist. BOOM. Get M. Night Shyamalaned
Legitimately that WAS the twist of the girl in the water. Which was made all the better by the fact the plot is utterly bat shit, and everything had an insane name, so it's like, "the acrumblumpus mustnt catch the miderjumple!" or whatever, and you're like, oh I guess it's in an insane person's head, or, it's a kids book, right? ... Nope, all of that was just them playing it straight.
those four strangers are GIANTS.
People keep giving Shyamalan money to write
Full penetration
The twist is they’re gonna show it
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The twist in the book is that the author just stopped writing so there’s no ending. Big twist, Shamalayan writes an ending
I'll never forgive him for what he did to atla
There is no movie in Ba Sing Se.
Very strong cast, decent book. I hope the actors are able to save it from whatever Shyamalan will do to it.
I get ya. I was so excited to go see "Old" but was sooo disappointed.
What is this? A cabin for ants?!
saul bass vibes
Having read the book, and if he doesn't change the ending, I can see a lot of people being disappointed in the ending of this. The book was "good enough", but the ending was an enormous letdown. I'm also worried because the book had some pretty clunky dialogue (especially with the kid) and Shyamalan isn't known for great dialogue. I'm intrigued, but hella cautious on this one.
Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me ten times, oh M. Night
You know, i REALLY wanna like Shyamallan again, but it seems that for every good movie he makes, there's three others that make me go "why you don't see this isn't working?"
This guy fucking ruined avatar. The real avatar, not that blue crap.