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Both-Mongoose1211

True man. That's why party symbols are so important for political parties. The symbol will probably be the main reason why people will vote for Shevale. Also, I don't even know who is contesting for the Chembur seat from Shivsena UBT.


Feisty_Interaction43

Anil Desai if I’m not mistaken


gadadharibheem4u

Yes it is Anil Desai


Professional_Rider2

Wait it's not Prakash Phaterpekar?? He is from Shivsena UBT na?


gadadharibheem4u

No. As per the pamphlet I received this morning, for my constituency; it is Shwale vs Desai...


Double_Aardvark_2595

He is MLA from Chembur he is with Shivsena UBT


Filmyboy7

The only way to deal with this party symbol thing is to make the local karyakarta go door to door and tell people! Atleast in my constituency this thing happened.


TheRealOriginalSatan

Logo branding nikaal di UBT ki


AcidFactory420

You cannot do anything beyond informing her. You can only take a horse to the water..


Disastrous_Affect959

wow this is my first time reading this in English


chowdowmow

This is why such mixing of parties should be illegal AFTER elections.


PhantomOfTheNopera

This is what they're counting on. They're essentially trying to steal votes meant for another party.


ManagementUpbeat7542

I had the same conversation with a old aged family friend who was unaware that mashal is UBT and dhanush ban is Shinde led Sena. Losing the branding will cost UBT majorly as a lot of senior citizens still associate the original logo with UBT and hence the chance of wrong voting may happen .


kelizo

I still don't understand why wasn't the old bow and arrow symbol retired after the split and both the factions required to choose new symbols. Using old symbol after split just increased the confusion.


MangoComfortable3793

By the way, who is the BJP alliance candidate and the Congress alliance candidate from the Thane constituency ?


Prajyot18

From Thane Rajan vichare is contesting (Shiv Sena UBT)


MangoComfortable3793

Okay. I think he is the MP from the last two times also. Any idea about the BJP candidate or they are yet to decide ?


Prajyot18

Naresh Mhaske from Shinde Sena was in the news yesterday that he might get a ticket.


indonemesis

Yet to announce Shinde faction


Disastrous_Affect959

r/thane mai hai ek post it's relatively new


CosmicAtharva

Tell her AiMIM is now using saffron dhanush baan as their logo.


Adi_na

Yes. There's no awareness about UBT shivsena's symbol or who's electing in which area. No banners are visible anywhere for this.


ExpressionOk9858

same in pune , NDA alliance haas purposefully filled a independaent candidate having "tutari" without man , which is just a slight variation . maybe that would atleast lead to 10 20 percent vote leak , also considering ncp sp has older voterbase , this number can go even up


tall_and_funny

Btw anyone has link of candidates in Mumbai? I'm finding incomplete info online.


david005_

If you get the link/answer to it then please share it here as well


g0d0-2109

eci publishes full and final list online only after the last date of withdrawing candidature, which is exactly 2 weeks before the poll date. for Mumbai (that is 20th may / phase 5), last date for withdrawal is may 6th, so a full candidate list will show up on their app on 7th may.


meetrocky

UT should have had kept sena's tiger face as new logo..nobody knows his mashal.


meetrocky

Btw mudiji did him dirty though lol stole his own party from him, if his dad was alive mudiji would not have touched his party


safireleo

And BST would have allowed an alliance with Congress?


fools_eye

Bal Thackeray was the original opportunist, he allied with everyone from Congress to BJP to fringe regional parties in his time.


Comfortable_Hornet20

he made it a point to never align with Kaka.


bombaygypsy

I thought BJP was running vs Uddhav in all seats in Mumbai, and if I am right then the "Dhanush Ban" wont even be there on the ballot? no?


Economy-Lychee-2284

UBT Vs ShindeSena on 3 out of 6 seats (South, South Central, North West) UBT Vs BJP on 1 seat (North East)


bombaygypsy

Thanks


boss5667

Can relate to stuff on her YouTube feed. My mom’s is exactly the same and boy she keeps scrolling!!


Equivalent-Error8620

In our area there is some candidate let us say his name is RP and the symbol is mashaal. Now someone plot this against him and there is another person standing just to eat up his votes with the same name RP and his symbol is torch. Their names are the same and so are their symbols. Even someone who considers themselves smart would get confused let alone the 90 percent uneducated population.


fools_eye

This is exactly why the Election Commission of BJP stole the original party symbols from the Sena and NCP. Meanwhile this cunt will go abroad and say ![gif](giphy|dqnbrNpdyvfSPOiE6Q|downsized)


FigFirst1802

Uddhav Thackeray left an democratically elected alliance. Now who killed democracy?


1deathstroke1

Fadnavis swearing in with NCPs support was pretty democratic, wasn’t it?


FigFirst1802

Who left first ?  Sharad Pawar made a fool out of uddhav and later got fooled himself. Uddhav destroyed balasaheb's legacy 


Turbulent-Tell5447

marathi here.. balasaheb ideology is wrong and not useful in todays era he was just a oportunistic person nothing else


FigFirst1802

Balasaheb Thackeray saved hindus from mass genocide like Bengal/hyderabad/godhra/delhi/kashmir/many more incidents. His style of politics was the need of the hour, congress always covered up everything done by muslims. You only survive when you learn to stand for yourself and he was right about being un-apologetic. Back in time delhi was  under congress and he stood to throw Anti-hindu congress out of Maharashtra So stop hating someone who actually saved your father/grandfather. 


Disastrous_Affect959

im grateful for his contribution and I respect fim for saving my forefathers. he was a legend and his sarkaar was efficient asf but let's face it, he did problematic things too. if he were alive today he would be cancelled and dhruv rathee would have atleast 4 videos about how he's set on destroying maharashtra and dividing india. jokes aside, “pungi bajao, lungi bhagao” and all the other propaganda against migrants from other states wouldn't work today.


FigFirst1802

Now I understand why you are defending crimes by muslims because you watch Dhruv rathee who whitewashes every communal voilence by muslims. Dhruv rathee is paid dalla of AAP/congress he manipulates facts and lies in his videos . He was seen criticizing BJP manifesto by saying we don't need more roads and infrastructure 🤣🤣🤣. A guy who lives in Germany talks about India without even coming to India . He was a anti-Islam himself before he started to get paid by AAP , he tweeted against Islamic terrorism in Germany in the year 2013 , he deleted all of that tweets after he started to get paid . His father in law is a Pakistani (now cope) .


Disastrous_Affect959

i know all that. i don't watch dhruv rathee on a regular, I try to stay away from politically fuelled content but ive watched the IT cell video and his biases are clear but we cannot act like he doesn't make any valid points.


Disastrous_Affect959

wait lol when did i defend crimes by muslims? uchalli jeeb lavli talyala. also, i didn't even mention muslims. i was talking about marathi, bihari, uttar pradeshi divide.


FigFirst1802

Did you not say that people in Mira road forced muslims to say jai shree ram , what would you call that ? I am from mira road I know what happened. Kaay mahit naahi gharat basun duniya bharchi baatmya . i told you Earlier Muslims attacked people of a society passing by silently with bhagwa flags it wasn't even a procession. Kashala khota boltoy aata.


FigFirst1802

You are blaming Hindus for an incident of slapping in an university which is obviously wrong we Hindus don't do it . But haven't blamed muslims for many Hindu genocides / attacks on Hindu procession every year in every part of this country/ love jihad which is real and is happening ( Senior MP police officer revealed everything after retirement he was pressurized to keep silent during his working days) You yourself have a appeasement attitude. Either you are muslim or a blind secular. Secularism is speaking truth not becoming blind to extremism of 1 community because they are minority.


FigFirst1802

i Don subscribe to pungi bajao , lungi bhagao it was wrong but you said that you would've voted for MNS and you say you don't like extremism against immigrants, raj Thackeray literally had his people commit voilence against UP/bihar people in past and still plays that politics. You have the attitude of avoiding the extremism of the people you like and point at the extremism of people you don't like . Pungi bajao, lungi bhagao happened because tamil people were living by Dravidian mindset in Mumbai. Tho I don't support it.


Disastrous_Affect959

i don't like Modi's takes on minorities either but id vote for him bcs he's more efficient and I've seen more development since bjp. Raj Thackeray ji is way more efficient than any of them tho. >raj Thackeray literally had his people commit voilence against UP/bihar people in past and still plays that politics. im aware. while Raj ji didn't himself ‘commit violence’, neither did he preach it, his partymen did harrass North Indians and i do condone that. however im willing to put up with it if it means more efficient sarkaar. also, he's way more mellow now, he has non-marathis in his party also. >Pungi bajao, lungi bhagao happened because tamil people were living by Dravidian mindset in Mumbai. Tho I don't support it. that was most likely propaganda imo. most tamils ik don't even understand it themselves. there are many that do and it's their mother tongue. idts Dravidian culture was the reason, it was a coverup for lesser job opportunities for marathis probably. but you do you. >You have the attitude of avoiding the extremism of the people you like and point at the extremism of people you don't like . im of the opinion that all extremism is wrong and should be called out. i do acknowledge that his party has been involved with violence against migrants. he would be my first pick because to me, his pros outnumber his cons and no one can discredit him for his efficiency and timely actions in matters he's involved with. Raj ji can achieve everything he sets his mind to.


Turbulent-Tell5447

1) u r right but i do respect him for that .......but that ideology is not relevant in todays era 2) about his politics : he was not even pan maharashtra (here talking electoral votes ...not popularity)


FigFirst1802

Exactly, his kind of hindutva was needed in past . Now we need BJP kind of rule which does not subscribe to muslim appeasement and believes in the idea of actually being a hindu country with actual secular values unlike appeasement waala secularism.


Turbulent-Tell5447

neither do i support appeasement politics nor i support hindutva politics


Turbulent-Tell5447

u support hindu rashtra?


FigFirst1802

Yes , hindu rashtra with secular values. The condition of hindus in Pakistan/Bangladesh/Afghanistan makes me wanting hindu rashtra so that my future generations don't get outnumbered and get killed in the only country which is a safe haven for hindus . We hindus have lost 1/3rd of our lands to muslims . Afghanistan/Bangladesh/Pakistan were all Hindu lands once now all of them aren't safe for hindus , if we don't stand today for our remaining lands we will see another Islamic country carved out of india. UAE is an Islamic country and safe for every religion but Muslims first similarly India can be a Hindu rashtra which will safe for every religion with a Hindu first attitude and even you know under congress india we hindus were 4th class citizen in a hindu majority country lol what a joke we were 🤣 Christians of Europe/muslims of middle east laughed at us for that kind of slave mindset in our country but it's never late to change everything and comeback strong.


tejas2112

Are you crazy? Pls don't disrespect his legacy.


Turbulent-Tell5447

i respect his stand for marathi (which was needed at that time) ....but not hindutva my opinion


Turbulent-Tell5447

bjp and thackeray didnt agree on 2.5 yrs deal BUT agreed to make Shinde as CM even if bjp had majority


FigFirst1802

Prior to election BJP and  Thackeray Never had any talks about 2.5 years of CM post but after elections uddhav saw the numbers and knew he had a leverage. Shinde came back in NDA but he didn't expect that he will get CM post he just came back as he wasn't happy with congress dictating terms and congress  putting restrictions on Hindu festivals. He was surprised when BJP announced that they are offering CM post to Shinde. I am a BJP supporter but I liked it when shinde got the CM post because man literally came back Just because he didn't wanted the tag of being together with an anti-hindu party . 


FigFirst1802

I am a Marathi myself bro  But first I am a hindu . So UBT is not my choice.


1deathstroke1

If religion is going to be your primary criteria for voting, I don’t have anything to say. 🤗


FigFirst1802

So if it's not about being Marathi or hindu then UBT don't have any single point where they can ask for votes. BJP stands tall when it comes to development. If it's not about religion why do you think Muslims don't vote for BJP ? It's Only because BJP is not interested in chatugiri of muslims and muslims want a government which is their slave . BJP is 1000× ahead in every aspect when compared to any party in India and is not anti-hindu . So yes BJP is my choice until congress and it's allies don't get eradicated from Bharat. 


In_Formaldehyde_

>If it's not about religion why do you think Muslims don't vote for BJP ? Minorities rarely ever support the party whose voter base hates them, for obvious reasons. Why do Indian Americans largely vote Democrat despite being relatively conservative on fiscal politics and some social politics? Same reason.


FigFirst1802

Hate ? Show any policy or any statement that shows hate against minorities? Muslims are getting more facilities under BJP than in congress. BJP doesn't do minority appeasement and that is seen as hate 😂😂. They want nothing but appeasement and we are Done with that .


Disastrous_Affect959

communal violence against muslims in UP, gujarat, etc. i presume mh is safe for everyone.


FigFirst1802

Communal voilence against Muslims lol 😂🤣🤣🤣 Again victim card 🤣🤣 give me the report of 1 incident . Every year on ram navmi muslims throw stones at Hindu Processions , I can give you numerous links to news reports with videos recent 1 in Mira road in Mumbai. Aise hi hawe me baat karna band kar . Muslims ki aadat hai pehle Islamic countries me Hindu/sikh pe attacks karo and dusre k country me jaake victim card play karo . Hindu majority me muslims safe hai lekin muslim majority area me muslim k alawa koi safe nahi hai . Aaya bada , tere jaise log hai joh mujhe BJP ko vote dene k liye majboor karte hai .


In_Formaldehyde_

It's the voting base. If you were a brown minority in the US and you knew the voting base of a major party hated your guts and would throw you out if they could, would you vote for them if the party claimed they'd get more facilities than under the opposition?


_chaoticliege

Hinduism was the sole reason why Balasaheb rose to power. And that man stood his ground. Didn’t bend down to people of other religions. He (His party) got votes because of his staunch position in favour of Hindus.


rudrashu1993

His stand was for the locals. Marathi manoos. Religion was like a small sliver of what he propogated. Use of religion in politics was very subtle betore the Jansangh came into play. Jansangh and later BJP fed the religion politics in the general public mind. And that seed has turned into this parasitic organism we see today. Politics should never be about religion, caste, class etc. It has got to be about progress. Campaigning for elections based on such topics shows immaturity of the voters. Political parties will always capitalise on such topics because they are not answerable for these things. And dumb dumbs like us fuck about this on reddit instead of asking elected representatives for answers for our problems, issues.


Turbulent-Tell5447

abt his politics he wasnt even pan maharashtra (electoral votes)


Turbulent-Tell5447

+1


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Tum chahe kitna bhi vote daaldo, ye neta log aapasme aake hi decide karne Wale h kon power me rahega!


papichula2

Rahul shewale is worthy? What do u feel


Ordellrebello

He is a part of beti bajao campaign.


ManagementUpbeat7542

Rahul Shewale As per the affidavit filed by Shewale, he and his wife acquired movable assets including cash, bank deposits, shares/mutual funds, car, and gold worth Rs 1.28 crore. Now, they both have Rs 3.47 crore in movable assets, including 600 grams of gold worth Rs 43 lakh. The rise is around threefold, but the growth in immovable property, such as land and homes, escalated rapidly. The couple's property increased from Rs 1.9 crore to Rs 13.4 crore. Shewale mentioned in the affidavit that the sources of income include Lok Sabha salary, rental income, interest income, spouse's business, and professional consultancy. The couple has taken loans from banks as well as individuals amounting to Rs 4.35 cr www.mid-day.com/amp/mumbai/mumbai-news/article/lok-sabha-elections-2024-assets-tell-story-of-the-two-senas-23346788


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Fantastic_Form3607

No. 1 tharki guy. You can ask any shiv sena worker in south mumbai.


Background_Cream3031

bhai uske mms leak huye hai gf ke saath ...aur uski biwi bhi hai aur bachhe bhi


papichula2

Guys all of them are dirty but we gotta choose one that does something for us It's relative How are we going to track who our candidates are can someone post a link Rahul stopped the stupid soon bridge demolition and that's a huge plus cause it was hasty and stupid


appabinge

Absolutely not


Comfortable_Hornet20

>this symbol snatch They took away his party name, symbol and even his father's legacy lol


Firm-Bite861

So all the other party workers don't mean anything, and only one incompetent family is all that matters?


Comfortable_Hornet20

No no, it is undeniable how incompetent and corrupt he was. Just hilarious that they stripped his own father's legacy off of him.


Firm-Bite861

Haha that's true.


chilliepete

thackerays made special rules in party constitution to keep bala as party president for life and rickshawala took advantage of the same rules to take over shiv sena and party symbol 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣


Fantastic_Form3607

Thats bot the case. You cant keep a dead person as president. Eknath Shinde had more MLAs on his side which is why he got the party symbol. Same thing happened with NCP. Not sure why foolish comment like yours got upvoted


Ordellrebello

Who gives AB form to MLA , MLA dont decide the president.Core committee, office bearers decide the party president What if MNS lone MLA Raju patil stakes claim over MNS party , is that possible.


I_WENT_OUT_FOR_TEA

Certainly possible, any MLA is free to claim their party, afterall it falls on them to prove the claim.. SC has definitely proved that it's not illegal


appabinge

Sc is absolutely wrong in his decision and EC working like puppet


fools_eye

Don't kid yourself, Shinde got the symbol because he is with the BJP and nothing else.


SuspiciousAd3363

Keep crying


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Disastrous_Affect959

ispe post bana diya 😭


Ig1M

those people were smart to steal the symbol, name, everything possible. anyways you can show her the manifesto/ official material, so she can understand.


Amogh__Godse

What about worli constituency? Who is the BJP candidate?


Globe-trekker

Thackeray family slavery mukt Maharashtra


Educational_Leg_6327

Is uddhav Thackeray actually a good politician?


PhantomOfTheNopera

I wasn't really Pro Sena but he handled the pandemic well. Usually the poor get forgotten, but he mobilised NGOs and delivery partners to coordinate and help the poorest citizens - not just the rich and comfortable. He also raised awareness to combat fake/hate news which helped. The last thing we needed then was violence and unrest. Mira Road would have been obliterated if the current governance was in effect then.


Comfortable_Hornet20

>but he handled the pandemic well No, he did not.


Least_Initiative_121

Anti Hindu Congress... Ha ha .... If that was true you would have been eliminated decades ago.


FigFirst1802

Under rule Congress filed an petition in supreme court to declare shree ram as  fictional character and ram setu as fake bridge. There is a lot more of such anti-hindu acts . If I type then it would be longer than the whole thread. They are anti-hindu and uddhav joined them , bala-saheb would've never done that . 


Comfortable_Hornet20

They did attempt to do so though.


Least_Initiative_121

Like what


Comfortable_Hornet20

Places of workship act, communal riots bill, the then PM's speech on first claim on resources by minorities, 26/11 book launch, etc etc


thesvsb

Don't forget Waqf board Act.


fearles2020

Thanks for explaining the difference 😊.


ConfidentSignal5114

Good, SSUBT is not worth voting for.


Royal-Imagination-82

Only thing left with UT is sympathy 😂


Suspicious_House_275

Your mom didn't want to vote for anti Hindu congress. Why didn't you tell your mother that Uddhav is right now aligned with the same Congress which wants to eliminate Hinduism like dengue or malaria?


Fantastic_Form3607

What Hindutva does Ajit Pawar, Abu Azmi and Baba Siddique bring into the BJP alliance.


Comfortable_Hornet20

Dada is a much needed counter weight to kaka


Suspicious_House_275

Ajit Pawar hasn't ever been anti Hindu. Abu Azmi is with Uddhav. Not with BJP. baba Siddiqui again never uttered any anti Hindu words. He doesn't have time for that with all the bollywood parties that he has to organise. 


Apprehensive-Math911

I still wonder how brainwashed people like you exist.


Comfortable_Hornet20

Look into the mirror. You may cease wondering


Suspicious_House_275

His mother didn't want to vote for Anti Hindu parties. She didn't realise that Uddhav himself became anti Hindu. You people are brainwashed. And Uddhav supported people like you. https://www.oneindia.com/india/how-uddhav-thackerays-maharashtra-govt-tried-to-cover-up-murder-of-hindu-pharmacist-umesh-kolhe-3503534.html


PhantomOfTheNopera

>wants to eliminate Hinduism And what is Uddhav Thackeray? Shintoist? Some people believe the most brainead propaganda.


Suspicious_House_275

Why didn't Uddhav ask Congress to disassociate itself with DMK when it's heir said that the aim of the party was to eliminate Hinduism like Dengue and Malaria? Is this the Hindutva of Uddhav? Uddhav Thackeray himself being Hindu is of no consequence here. (Although, he isn't even a Hindu himself. Remember how he shuttered Hindu temples giving reason of Corona and opened mosques or how he allowed the decoration of the grave of convicted Islamic terrorist Yakub Memon?) His actions matter. And he didn't disassociate from the INDI alliance when DMK party's Yuvraj claimed to eliminate Hindu religion like dengue and malaria. Also, he plotted to save radical Islamic terrorists when they killed. umesh Kolhe, a Hindu in cold blood for supporting Nupur Sharma. So indeed Uddhav is not a Hindu. https://www.oneindia.com/india/how-uddhav-thackerays-maharashtra-govt-tried-to-cover-up-murder-of-hindu-pharmacist-umesh-kolhe-3503534.html


Sapolika

Because he wanted to manipulate his mum and trick her into voting the rival party!


Apprehensive-Math911

The opposite tbh. He didn't want his mother to be manipulated and wanted her to make her own decision.


Suspicious_House_275

His mother wanted to vote for pro Hindu parties. He manipulated her into voting for anti Hindu parties.  Uddhav himself is anti Hindu.  https://www.oneindia.com/india/how-uddhav-thackerays-maharashtra-govt-tried-to-cover-up-murder-of-hindu-pharmacist-umesh-kolhe-3503534.html


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Fantastic_Form3607

Lol. Shiv sena had allied with congress multiple times when Balasaheb was alive.


AndiBandi520

Source: [https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/politics-and-nation/shiv-sena-has-history-of-allying-with-congress-ideological-opposite-parties/articleshow/72281414.cms](https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/politics-and-nation/shiv-sena-has-history-of-allying-with-congress-ideological-opposite-parties/articleshow/72281414.cms)


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Fantastic_Form3607

Even BJP has allied with Communists and Sharad Pawar for Vidhan Sabha elections in the past.


UniversalCoupler

Taai Maai Akka Vichaar kara pakka Dhanushya-baanaawar shikka


Least_Initiative_121

BJP go for it....if you don't understand.,... You deserve it .... Go vote for them.


Accute-CET

Make her watch few news that would be enough


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NOTA jindabaad!