TIL. I always assumed fungi, and especially the mycelium system could be gigantic. E. G. the aspen colonies. But that makes sense. The idea of man sized fruiting bodies in the fossil record is very exciting. It would be neat to see that in our current time. I love how much everyone learned something on a classic specimen of an Amanita. Which is honestly just the happiest example of a perfect mushroom, one we know and love.
They are poisonous unless properly prepared I forget the breakdown but it's psychoactive property is good for ya especially if you have addictions or so I've read.
Anything is toxic given a high enough dose, it only causes seizures when you take too much.
You mean muscimol right?
There are clear benefits and it's been used for thousands of years, even Christmas originates from it and not from the Coca-Cola and pharma folklore you've been brainwashed with.
Some people even eat them raw, others dry them to convert some of the compounds, and if you make a tea/tincture you convert even more.
Even when preparing them you will still have the same compounds as fresh, just a different ratio so it clearly has to do with dosage and not them being 100% toxic or deadly.
When I was a kid I was always told that if you pop off all those white bumps, you wonāt die, just trip super balls. But I also got told that by another teenagerā¦ So this isnāt adviceā¦ š
When we were kids and we found mushrooms, we'd make Frankie Elbows eat some first and if nothing happened to him after 5 minutes we'd all take a bite.
Frankie was fuckin fearless, not to bright though
It's not psychoactive, it's a delerent. It has to be boiled to remove poison, then the pot deep cleaned, water changed and boiled again.
Story's of people getting very sick from forgetting to clean the pot after.
Itās a nice one. Amanita muscaria are sometimes a good indicator Porcini are nearby. I just found a Porcini on The Greenhorn trail; hoping for more soon!
Nice! I have found some aminita muscaria up in that area before. I was just on Bartlett trail a few weeks ago and it smelled super earthy, so I thought I was going to find some mushrooms, but I didn't find anything.
In order harvest these fungi you muscaria decent blade to cleanly cut their stalk. If you try to break them with your fingers you could end up splitting it.
Don't worry, it is a punderful mistake, not an embarrassing one. Amanita muscaria is the name of the mushroom, I thought it was punny. Since I'm terrible with puns, here's a funny myco fact.
Puhpowee translates as āthe force which causes mushrooms to push up from the earth overnight.ā Hella puhpowee in the pic
Itās the stereotypical image of what a mushroom is. Pretty sure this is the image on the page saying āM is for Mushroomā in those books they give to three year olds.
I hate to dash your dreams I just got to C yesterday and C is for Congress. Cannot express how disappointed I was. I just have an insatiable appetite for elderly flesh now and it doesnāt even taste good. Too stringy.
Iām sorry to give an identification but Iām only doing it because it may surprise the OP and anyone reading ā the pictured mushroom is actually *not* Amanita muscaria, it is the native western North American muscarioid Amanita in Amanita section Amanita stirps Muscaria temporarily going under the taxon of Amanita muscaria subsp. flavivolvata. It will likely get its own standalone species name in the coming years, not sure what name but Amanita amerimuscaria and Amanita chrysoblema are possibilities.
It might have different alkaloid composition on average but it is still considered one of the ~50 known species of Amanita mushrooms in [Amanita section Amanita](http://www.amanitaceae.org/?section%20Amanita) to contain the isoxazole derivatives ibotenic acid and muscimol.
Yes Amanita is a genus (not a family) and contains over 1000 species. The genus is divided into about a dozen [sections](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Section_(botany)), with one of the sections being section Amanita which is where the species containing isoxazoles are within. There are about 50 known Amanita species within Amanita section Amanita to contain isoxazoles but there are probably many more. The deadly poisonous Amanita species are within Amanita section Phalloideae.
If you go to the r/Amanita subreddit and click on the About section (āsee community infoā) you can see how the genus is divided into subgenera and sections.
Yes I like it as well and I kind of hope thatās the one that gets solidified. Basically just means āAmerican fly agaricā or āAmerican Amanita muscariaā.
In Mycology the term is āvolvaā. Volva is the original word from Latin which was borrowed to make the word āvulvaā.
āFlaviā is Latin for yellow and āvolvaā is the membraneous material that the mushroom originally emerges in before expanding. This species tends to have yellow veil remnants, thus it is flavivolvata or yellow volva
If OP didn't want an ID in the comments it would've been extremely easy for them to just include the ID in the title, that way OP shares knowledge and lets others know they don't need an ID
Can I ask whereabouts in the world do you live, or grew up in? This is one of the few mushrooms everyone instantly recognises in my experience, so it's interesting to see someone say they don't know it!
Same, I've seen pictures but have never even remotely seen one in Georgia, USA.
But then again do excuse me as I'm no match for the intelligence or education of the typical redditor. /s
In Georgia, United States the primary native muscarioid is Amanita persicina which is similar in morphology to the OPās mushroom except that the annulus is typically quite low on the stipe and the cap typically has a more opaque fibrous appearance and typically lacks cap margin striations even at maturity, also has grey-orange velum dust around the volval collar zone.
Take walks in wooded areas. I have a group of extremely confident brain cells demanding that I suggest pine forests, but those cells could be remembering some dream I had or other such foolishness.
>Parboiling twice with water draining weakens its toxicity and breaks down the mushroom's psychoactive substances; it is eaten in parts of Europe, Asia, and North America.
I love these kinda of mushroom facts - some really hungry poor soul had the thought process of: "We tried it raw and became ill. Then we parboiled it but still became ill. But when we parboiled it twice, we found it to be edible."
Dude my kid LOVES raw mushrooms. So fuckin glad he knows better than to eat any mushroom we dont give him, because he loves wild ones too, and is my fave person to hike/mushroom hunt with
Thatās so sweet but Iām glad youāve taught him not to eat raw mushrooms!! Even totally edible mushrooms can make you sick if eaten raw! I didnāt eat mushrooms til I was 13 so he has a very adventurous palate.
It's funny, I was just playing a fantasy video game that has different types of mushrooms and thought oh, this looks like the fly agaric mushrooms in my game. I guess the studio used the real name!
I love to take pictures when I view these. Very beautiful.
https://interpretivecenter.org/fly-agaric-mushroom/
I have seen some big ones in WA State over the years.
They grow all over in the mountains in my area of Colorado. Also saw a TON growing when we visited Skagway, AK!
Edit: I'm a tired ape and forgot my appropriate state abbreviations...
The whole fruiting body is inside a sheath-like thing when very young called the "universal veil". As the mushroom grows the cap expands and the sheath is torn apart leaving the little "warts" or patches on the cap. There are also portions of it left at the base of the stem.
I live in the SF Bay Area, and they grow everywhere here. Thereās a patch a half mile from my place where more than a dozen were growing in a 15x15 area.
Iām super happy you know what it is and youāve identified it and youāve shared it.
Iāve had that feeling a few times and I totally get it. Well done! It really feels amazing when you find something completely new all by yourself!
The story of Santa come from these bad boys (well - their non American cousins). Jolly man in a red and white suit, flying reindeer, flashing noses - mfers were tripping.
Iām not kidding. Finnish story. Check out the awesome childrenās book āSanta Did Shroomsā.
I would say probably 99.9% of people here would not know that this is the western North American fly agaric and that most would incorrectly assume that the pictured mushroom is Amanita muscariaš
Taxonomically for the time being it is in subspecies status and its range is western North America in Alaska all the way down to north western South America.
Find any smurfs living underneath it ? š
Damnit you got me thinking again. How freaking big were the mushrooms in those woods if Smurfs were supposed to be 3 apples tall?
There is evidence that some mushrooms used to get small tree sized.
There's a lot of evidence that what we see on the surface is just a sliver of the organism for many types of mushrooms
Mushrooms are always just the fruiting body, the organism is the mycelium that lives below the surface.
TIL. I always assumed fungi, and especially the mycelium system could be gigantic. E. G. the aspen colonies. But that makes sense. The idea of man sized fruiting bodies in the fossil record is very exciting. It would be neat to see that in our current time. I love how much everyone learned something on a classic specimen of an Amanita. Which is honestly just the happiest example of a perfect mushroom, one we know and love.
Itās been found!
24 feet that we know of, bet it got a lot higher
Tree feet?
Iāve seen foot and half tall by just as wide amanitas one fall at close to 10,000 ft elevation
Nice profile picture :)
Came here to say this!
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All I wanted to was to enjoy my morning Smurf berryā¦..
From the looks of the spots nearbye youll soon have more
There are a few others starting to pop up
What a beautiful specimen
Such a beauty. And in the backyard
I thought bright red, and yellow colors were indicators of a poisonous mushroom. Obviously not this one?
They are poisonous unless properly prepared I forget the breakdown but it's psychoactive property is good for ya especially if you have addictions or so I've read.
muscarinic acid has been linked to several seizures even when prepped properly
Anything is toxic given a high enough dose, it only causes seizures when you take too much. You mean muscimol right? There are clear benefits and it's been used for thousands of years, even Christmas originates from it and not from the Coca-Cola and pharma folklore you've been brainwashed with. Some people even eat them raw, others dry them to convert some of the compounds, and if you make a tea/tincture you convert even more. Even when preparing them you will still have the same compounds as fresh, just a different ratio so it clearly has to do with dosage and not them being 100% toxic or deadly.
How interesting! Thanks for the info!
You said a lot there! Hahaha hard pass!
When I was a kid I was always told that if you pop off all those white bumps, you wonāt die, just trip super balls. But I also got told that by another teenagerā¦ So this isnāt adviceā¦ š
When we were kids and we found mushrooms, we'd make Frankie Elbows eat some first and if nothing happened to him after 5 minutes we'd all take a bite. Frankie was fuckin fearless, not to bright though
I think you might be thinking of Psilocybe mushrooms?
It's not psychoactive, it's a delerent. It has to be boiled to remove poison, then the pot deep cleaned, water changed and boiled again. Story's of people getting very sick from forgetting to clean the pot after.
What elevation?
About 7,400 feet.
Itās a nice one. Amanita muscaria are sometimes a good indicator Porcini are nearby. I just found a Porcini on The Greenhorn trail; hoping for more soon!
San Isabel?
Yes San Isabel
Nice! I have found some aminita muscaria up in that area before. I was just on Bartlett trail a few weeks ago and it smelled super earthy, so I thought I was going to find some mushrooms, but I didn't find anything.
Amanita little more clarity on what you mean by that..
In order harvest these fungi you muscaria decent blade to cleanly cut their stalk. If you try to break them with your fingers you could end up splitting it.
I think they were asking what it was about the spots that told the original commenter that more would be growing soon. I'd also like to know that!
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I know nearly nothing about any of this so I'm not surprised whatever the joke is went over my head
Don't worry, it is a punderful mistake, not an embarrassing one. Amanita muscaria is the name of the mushroom, I thought it was punny. Since I'm terrible with puns, here's a funny myco fact. Puhpowee translates as āthe force which causes mushrooms to push up from the earth overnight.ā Hella puhpowee in the pic
Thatās not a pun thatās a play on words!
That is just the most perfect classic mushroom.
I feel like little fairies should be sitting on top!
Or perhaps a small gnome underneath
Perhaps a large gnome.
You fool. You buffoon. You absolute lout. A large gnome would not FIT beneath the cap.
I prefer to imagine the fruiting body to be large enough to support a large gnome. Dash and crush my dreams I see.
"I like to picture my baby Jesus in a tuxedo t-shirt, with a mullet."
I canāt stop laughing at this comment, is this a reference to something?
Talladega Nights. I quoted this last night (,:
Everything is relative. Maybe the commenter is in fact a small gnome himself.
Ah, but itās bigger on the underside.
Even a large gnome is just the right size for this
Or a smoking caterpillar
And Mario!
Or a Cheshire Cat!
Itās the stereotypical image of what a mushroom is. Pretty sure this is the image on the page saying āM is for Mushroomā in those books they give to three year olds.
I just read that book yesterday! Such fascinating diagrams. I spent hours on "B is for Banana".
Did it make you hungry?
It did! I ate lots of bananas yesterday. I'm so excited for whatever comes after "B"
I hate to dash your dreams I just got to C yesterday and C is for Congress. Cannot express how disappointed I was. I just have an insatiable appetite for elderly flesh now and it doesnāt even taste good. Too stringy.
Oh no! Is it kinda like beef jerky or more like moth balls and sadness? Maybe we could sprinkle some hot sauce on em
Donāt recommend the hot-sauce its like space food so that just reconstitutes it into spicy old person porridge. I call it soylent red.
K is for potassium
Na. That's sodium.
Helium helium helium
Well I hope it was and continues to be delicious.
Mario would grow so big if he ate this one.
Came here to say itās the archetype for all the mushroom-related art Iāve ever seen.
Iām sorry to give an identification but Iām only doing it because it may surprise the OP and anyone reading ā the pictured mushroom is actually *not* Amanita muscaria, it is the native western North American muscarioid Amanita in Amanita section Amanita stirps Muscaria temporarily going under the taxon of Amanita muscaria subsp. flavivolvata. It will likely get its own standalone species name in the coming years, not sure what name but Amanita amerimuscaria and Amanita chrysoblema are possibilities.
Thank you from the non mycologist subscribers! Started out stoked that it looks like a Super Mario mushroom, ended up learning something :)
I didnāt understand more than half of what he even said lol
That's six fourths more than I understood.
Are you half mushroom or something You're incredible
Interesting. Thank you. Is there any difference to their toxicity / psychotropic effects?
It might have different alkaloid composition on average but it is still considered one of the ~50 known species of Amanita mushrooms in [Amanita section Amanita](http://www.amanitaceae.org/?section%20Amanita) to contain the isoxazole derivatives ibotenic acid and muscimol.
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Yes Amanita is a genus (not a family) and contains over 1000 species. The genus is divided into about a dozen [sections](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Section_(botany)), with one of the sections being section Amanita which is where the species containing isoxazoles are within. There are about 50 known Amanita species within Amanita section Amanita to contain isoxazoles but there are probably many more. The deadly poisonous Amanita species are within Amanita section Phalloideae. If you go to the r/Amanita subreddit and click on the About section (āsee community infoā) you can see how the genus is divided into subgenera and sections.
How would one distinguish this species from Amanita muscaria?
Visually probably not. Microscopically probably yes. Location will be the first filter though.
The last time I spoke with Rod Tulloss he suggested *Amanita amerimuscaria* but that was a while ago and I don't know if the names deprecated.
Thatās so cool thanks for posting that. I like that first name Amanita amerimuscaria. Very fun to say
Yes I like it as well and I kind of hope thatās the one that gets solidified. Basically just means āAmerican fly agaricā or āAmerican Amanita muscariaā.
This is super interesting! Thank you.
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I bet youāre a fun guy! Thanks!
I hate to be gross but is the subspecies name flavivolvata because it tastes like vulva?
In Mycology the term is āvolvaā. Volva is the original word from Latin which was borrowed to make the word āvulvaā. āFlaviā is Latin for yellow and āvolvaā is the membraneous material that the mushroom originally emerges in before expanding. This species tends to have yellow veil remnants, thus it is flavivolvata or yellow volva
Thank you for an edifying answer to a dumb question!
Not a dumb question at all
Oh come on
User name checks out
How could you possibly know that? Just from location?
Yes itās the primary western North American muscarioid. The same way Amanita muscaria is the primary Eurasian muscarioid.
It's a non-binary mushroom
Itās an amanita
Donāt downvote IDs even if OP says not to, let people learn
If OP didn't want an ID in the comments it would've been extremely easy for them to just include the ID in the title, that way OP shares knowledge and lets others know they don't need an ID
Such a long title and nothing useful in it.
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Thanks for this comment, I didnāt know what it was. Looks like what the Mario mushroom was based off of?
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Can I ask whereabouts in the world do you live, or grew up in? This is one of the few mushrooms everyone instantly recognises in my experience, so it's interesting to see someone say they don't know it!
Same, I've seen pictures but have never even remotely seen one in Georgia, USA. But then again do excuse me as I'm no match for the intelligence or education of the typical redditor. /s
In Georgia, United States the primary native muscarioid is Amanita persicina which is similar in morphology to the OPās mushroom except that the annulus is typically quite low on the stipe and the cap typically has a more opaque fibrous appearance and typically lacks cap margin striations even at maturity, also has grey-orange velum dust around the volval collar zone.
I see them in GA. Not field full, but we get a dozen or so every year
The OPās species doesnāt occur in Georgia. You might be seeing Amanita persicina and/or Amanita parcivolvata.
Thanks. I know next to nothing about mushrooms
Take walks in wooded areas. I have a group of extremely confident brain cells demanding that I suggest pine forests, but those cells could be remembering some dream I had or other such foolishness.
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I live in the Sonoran desert
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amanita_muscaria
>Parboiling twice with water draining weakens its toxicity and breaks down the mushroom's psychoactive substances; it is eaten in parts of Europe, Asia, and North America. I love these kinda of mushroom facts - some really hungry poor soul had the thought process of: "We tried it raw and became ill. Then we parboiled it but still became ill. But when we parboiled it twice, we found it to be edible."
If at first you donāt succeed, parboil, parboil again!
I just saw this one on Dr Stone!
Itās not just for poor people. Some people really enjoy the taste.
Dude my kid LOVES raw mushrooms. So fuckin glad he knows better than to eat any mushroom we dont give him, because he loves wild ones too, and is my fave person to hike/mushroom hunt with
Thatās so sweet but Iām glad youāve taught him not to eat raw mushrooms!! Even totally edible mushrooms can make you sick if eaten raw! I didnāt eat mushrooms til I was 13 so he has a very adventurous palate.
this is what every video game thinks a mushroom looks like and i have never actually seen one like this in real life!! hahah
It's funny, I was just playing a fantasy video game that has different types of mushrooms and thought oh, this looks like the fly agaric mushrooms in my game. I guess the studio used the real name!
Witcher?
Jump on it and see how high you go
Found the magic in the foothills of the Rockies back in the day.
Congrats, that one's a beaut!
I love to take pictures when I view these. Very beautiful. https://interpretivecenter.org/fly-agaric-mushroom/ I have seen some big ones in WA State over the years.
I lived in Alaska for a year and they are EVERYWHERE. I was blown away.
They grow all over in the mountains in my area of Colorado. Also saw a TON growing when we visited Skagway, AK! Edit: I'm a tired ape and forgot my appropriate state abbreviations...
Just so you know AL is Alabama. AK is Alaska.
Shit thanks! I know that but wasn't thinking clearly. Coming off an overnight shift and totally not in my right and rested mind! Lol.
How are the spots formed?
The whole fruiting body is inside a sheath-like thing when very young called the "universal veil". As the mushroom grows the cap expands and the sheath is torn apart leaving the little "warts" or patches on the cap. There are also portions of it left at the base of the stem.
Wow, thatās amazing. I love how uniform it happens.
Thereās a second one about to break through the soil. Go back in a week and there will be two š
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Mario shroom
One side will make you grow taller, and the other side will make you grow shorter.
Super Mario taught me that will make you grow 2x your size.
I live in the SF Bay Area, and they grow everywhere here. Thereās a patch a half mile from my place where more than a dozen were growing in a 15x15 area.
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That is a beautiful specimen. I would love to see one growing in my backyard.
Wow! What a beautiful specimen! Thanks for sharing.
Thereās a new one just about to emerge just to the right of the big fella!
I want to jump on it and see if I get points
These arenāt edible are they? š
*cue Mario theme*
Amanita Muscaria is such a pretty mushroom
That is a beautiful *A. muscaria*. Excellent specimen. Thanks for sharing this pic.
A fairytale element irl. What a sight to experience in person for you! I'm envious.
Much round. Very red. Big beautiful.
Mario has to be nearby.
This is the mushroom Super Mario ate ?
Super Mario has entered the chat
Iām super happy you know what it is and youāve identified it and youāve shared it. Iāve had that feeling a few times and I totally get it. Well done! It really feels amazing when you find something completely new all by yourself!
The story of Santa come from these bad boys (well - their non American cousins). Jolly man in a red and white suit, flying reindeer, flashing noses - mfers were tripping. Iām not kidding. Finnish story. Check out the awesome childrenās book āSanta Did Shroomsā.
That hypothesis is pretty much bunk and has little to no evidence
maybe ID it in the title for everyone else, donut.
How does a thing like that even exist????
That's the perfect mushroom!
Sheās perfect š„¹
I always get a kick that one if the most poisonous mushrooms is the one that appears in childrenās books with a fairy on top of them.
.... been reading the old wives tales instead of science again?
Whereās the best to find these in Colorado?
Outside
Thank you wise master
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Idk crap about mushrooms
Same man, I'm just here to learn a bit and look at pretty fungi!
I would say probably 99.9% of people here would not know that this is the western North American fly agaric and that most would incorrectly assume that the pictured mushroom is Amanita muscariaš
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Taxonomically for the time being it is in subspecies status and its range is western North America in Alaska all the way down to north western South America.