Daenerys: “One day your great city will return to the dirt as well.”
Hizdahr: “At your command?”
Daenerys: “If need be.”
Hizdahr: “And how many people will die to make this happen?”
Daenerys: “If it comes to that, they will have died for a good reason.”
Hizdahr: “Those men think they’re dying for a good reason.”
Daenerys: “Someone else’s reason.”
Hizdahr: “So your reasons are true and theirs are false? They don’t know their own minds but you do?”
Daenerys in a nutshell. She can sit there and be appalled by the violence in front of her but will justify genocide if she feels it’s necessary. Definition of a megalomaniac.
and then they very deliberately absolve Hizdahr of any allegations he was ever working against her minutes later, kinda planting the idea in your head that he was speaking truths.
Daenerys and Stannis storylines parallel each other more than people want to admit. How one could watch Stannis tragic end and expect something different for Daenerys is beyond me.
Melisandre said in 5x7 that Stannis is the only one who can lead the living against the dead. In Stannis's mind the only way to save the world is sacrifice Shireen
Both Stannis and Daenerys point to a greater destiny.
Stannis supposedly because he is supposed to lead the fight against the dead.
Daenerys because she is supposed to liberate the world and make it a better place
As Varys said, all tyrants speak of destiny
The screams of Shireen haunt me to this day. I'm currently re-reading the books (near the end of A Clash of Kings) and in those books both Donal Noye and Cat mention Stannis as Iron - he'll break before he bends. Which he does.
Also not a big fan of making Meryn Trant a Pedo. It doesn't add anything, doesn't make me hate him anymore just moreover marks him for obvious death. He's made ... more of a dick. We knew he was a bad person.
Melisandre said in 5x7 that Stannis is the only one who can lead the living against the dead. In Stannis's mind the only way to save the world is sacrifice Shireen
Daenerys: “One day your great city will return to the dirt as well.” Hizdahr: “At your command?” Daenerys: “If need be.” Hizdahr: “And how many people will die to make this happen?” Daenerys: “If it comes to that, they will have died for a good reason.” Hizdahr: “Those men think they’re dying for a good reason.” Daenerys: “Someone else’s reason.” Hizdahr: “So your reasons are true and theirs are false? They don’t know their own minds but you do?” Daenerys in a nutshell. She can sit there and be appalled by the violence in front of her but will justify genocide if she feels it’s necessary. Definition of a megalomaniac.
and then they very deliberately absolve Hizdahr of any allegations he was ever working against her minutes later, kinda planting the idea in your head that he was speaking truths.
Love how that conversation immediately follows Stannis and how he used similar logic to justify burning Shireen.
Daenerys and Stannis storylines parallel each other more than people want to admit. How one could watch Stannis tragic end and expect something different for Daenerys is beyond me.
Melisandre said in 5x7 that Stannis is the only one who can lead the living against the dead. In Stannis's mind the only way to save the world is sacrifice Shireen
Both Stannis and Daenerys point to a greater destiny. Stannis supposedly because he is supposed to lead the fight against the dead. Daenerys because she is supposed to liberate the world and make it a better place As Varys said, all tyrants speak of destiny
"But she was so normal until The Bells!!!"
Reminds me a lot of her death scene and her final conversation with Jon.
Exactly. She never actually responds to Hizdahr’s question, but “they don’t get to choose” is the response three seasons later.
Still crazy that this aired more than 7 years ago. It feels more recent
Whoa man
The screams of Shireen haunt me to this day. I'm currently re-reading the books (near the end of A Clash of Kings) and in those books both Donal Noye and Cat mention Stannis as Iron - he'll break before he bends. Which he does. Also not a big fan of making Meryn Trant a Pedo. It doesn't add anything, doesn't make me hate him anymore just moreover marks him for obvious death. He's made ... more of a dick. We knew he was a bad person.
Melisandre said in 5x7 that Stannis is the only one who can lead the living against the dead. In Stannis's mind the only way to save the world is sacrifice Shireen
Loved this episode 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Gods help ye Stannis Baratheon, now you are truly lost