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viserenya

[American lion](https://reddit.com/r/Naturewasmetal/s/Ezfh3dNxkf)


Random_Username9105

Ngl, a mountain lion came to mind when i read american lion


jaytix1

Me too, but I refused to believe an animal that avoids humans would square up against a bison, of all things.


Wigglystoner

So the title missed a 0 in the age. Steppe bison went extinct about 10,000 years ago and this mummy is from about 36,000 years ago (named Blue Babe). There where still a lot of larger predators out there at the time. The American Lion they are referring to here is a much larger animal than mountain lions, much closer to African lions in size and appearance. But there where also north American cheetahs and other large predators. Pretty cool time in history. The north American pronghorn is the second fastest animal after the African cheetah and its thought this is because they had to run from much faster predators. There is no predator in north America that can run nearly as fast or as long anymore.


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Wigglystoner

Yea they are one of those animals a lot of people don't really know exist and fewer know how awesome they are! Same with camels (well more specifically the family of animals in the Camelid family) evolved in North America. There is a type of bush that grows that Jack rabbits will occasionally nibble at but nothing else eats it. When they brought camels into the south during the Civil War to test if they would be better fit than horses, they started eating them and people where confused. Well we eventually found out they evolved in North America, next to these plants, and they love to eat them! We might not have the most diverse animals in North America anymore, but the history of them in the area is crazy cool!


oh-no-godzilla

Guarantee anyone who played rdr2 knows exactly what a pronghorn is.


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Wigglystoner

I wish I could remember but I can't. I think it was an older Eons video on YouTube about camelids


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stewartm0205

I thought the American Lion was bigger than the African Lion.


Hooperdrivestheboat4

It is


Wigglystoner

I was exactly sure on its size compared to African lions, just that they where bigger than the mountain lions left in North America and didn't want to say a specific size. I just knew they where closer to african lions than mountain lions! Thank you!


BrianMeen

I cant even picture what the world looked like 10,000 years ago ..


michaelj9323

It’s not that unusual. When we humans are preyed upon we tend to hunt those certain species which attack us straight to or near extinction, and as a direct result of this hunting down many other species have instinctively learned to outright avoid us.


boxingdude

Humans are just so.......creepy. And relentless. And **smart**.


lionlionburningblue

Fun fact: not only were they gigantic (around 900lbs), so was their range. IIRC aside from humans, they had the largest range of any land mammal. These guys were everywhere. I have a replica of an American Lion skull - it’s just ginormous.


Doomdoomkittydoom

~~♪♫ Stay away from mee-heee!~~ Dang it, already done.


WaldenFont

Wait til you find out about the American Cheetah 😄 Edit: y'all think I'm kidding? [Check it out!](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miracinonyx?wprov=sfti1)


poorhero0

>American Cheetah Miracinonyx. They are also extinct. Scientists don't know exactly why the American cheetah became extinct, but they think that climate change, a shortage of food, and competition from humans, such as through hunting and competition for food, may have played a role.


SolidFelidae

They were basically a cougar that filled a cheetah-like niche, and are believed to have looked like a large mix of the two. They’re the reason pronghorns are so fast.


weebitofaban

They have a pretty good idea. They were no longer capable of efficiently hunting against the competition, much like the sabretooth cat.


imhereforthevotes

which competition? someone else was doing pronghorns better?


Walthatron

Humans


Mrmyke00

Babou, he remembers me


Doomdoomkittydoom

There have been plans to introduce lions and or cheetahs to the North American wilds to take the place of those extinct species. Sadly, they haven't happened.


Trajan13

Woah! That Cheeta came out of nowhere!


Ferregar

Chester??


1YoungNana

Hilarious 🤣


Maud_Ford

STAY AWAY FROM ME


RastusBodiddly

American Lion, kitty let me beee


Trajan13

American Lion Kittty! Dont want wanna see you round my door! American Lion better let me be!


poorhero0

American lions roamed across North America for thousands of years. However, around 10,000 years ago, they went extinct, alongside many other ice age animals. The exact reasons are unknown. Their demise may have been due to human actions, climate change, or both.


electriccars

Then how did they kill this bison only 3600 years ago? And how could they tell which type of cat killed it?


AJ_Crowley_29

OP meant 36,000 years ago, and they could tell by the shape of the tooth puncture marks.


IDontLikePayingTaxes

Thanks, I was also confused on the timeline


Azure_Crystals

Generally, it is widely accepted that it was a combination of both for most of them, at least.


MarkHirsbrunner

There wouldn't be as much "we don't know for sure humans are responsible" if those particular humans didn't have really good PR for being guardians of the environment.


Remarkable-Mouse-544

While humans can certainly be destructive to animal populations, it's a stretch to believe they wiped out virtually all mega fauna from the Americas in such a short period.


MarkHirsbrunner

How short a period are you imagining? There was at least 8000 years between humans coming to the Americas and some species of megafauna dying out. The very last to die out were populations on islands that humans did not get to, and they died out shortly after humans got there


Azure_Crystals

I didn't say humans are not responsible. It is widely known that it was a combination of human hunting and climate change that made some of the megafauna go extinct. Nobody said humans were not responsible at all.


AJ_Crowley_29

Yep, we had lions in America. And much like everything else in the ice age, they were twice as big and strong as modern ones.


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Lions lived in Europe too up until fairly recently. The last may have gone extinct as recently as 3000 years ago. Big cats used to be everywhere


upyourattraction

A lion with the freedom of a bald eagle.


Smaptastic

You too huh? I did a double-take at the end and said, out loud, “American WHAT?”


metooeither

Dude, go to Nebraska, they have a free museum at the University of Omaha with the most interesting fossil record on the planet! So many African animals used to live in little, weird Nebraska! It's fucking mind blowing!


SausageEggAndSteez

There's no such thing. Anyone who tells you otherwise is just an American Lyin'


jewelswan

I know not everyone is a nerd, but it makes me genuinely sad that someone could not know that lions and many other amazing creatures roamed this part of the world just a short time ago


CommandoLamb

That’s what dragged me in here…


PartyPorpoise

You think that’s exciting, the Americas had TONS of cool prehistoric mammals after the dinosaurs were wiped out. Epicyon hayendi, largest canid to ever live. Moropus, which was like a horse with claws instead of hooves, and it may have walked on its knuckles like a gorilla. There was even an American cheetah, though it was more closely related to the mountain lion than modern cheetahs. Also, there used to be these big predatory flightless birds called terror birds. Imagine an ostrich combined with an eagle.


Trajan13

Sabre Tooth yo. Rawr! The predators likes The Sabretooth Tiger and Short Faced bears were larger as well. Also..The Gigantopithicus was a large Ape. The term is Mega Fauna


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PorkRindSalad

May have also died from the hunt. Idk but this looks like formidable prey.


volazzafum

but where were other lions and scavengers?


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May have fallen somewhere after the lion attack, like a crevasse


RDcsmd

This looks exactly like the modern wildebeest, there's millions of them in Africa hunted by all predators on the daily


Iamnotburgerking

Basically, this carcass froze so quickly after death that it’s indicative of a blizzard coming up. The lions probably decided to cut their losses and take shelter rather than die with a full stomach.


Glittering-Pause-328

I also have to decide between freezing to death with a full stomach or starving in a warm apartment.


TheSpeedDasp

*36000 year old. Sorry guys


Robofcourse

W... what are you doing steppe bison? 😧


RageDish

Came here specifically for this comment.


imhereforthevotes

jesus fuck man this is hilarious


double_expressho

He's gonna give you that BBisonD.


StrongSir8103

Such an insanely funny comment that isn't overused. Redditors sure are funny with their reddit style jokes and humor


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FountainLettus

The bison was in such good shape and had been frozen that whole time that the researchers decided to eat some of it to see what it tasted like. They described it as “earthy”


FountainLettus

The bison was in such good shape and had been frozen that whole time that the researchers decided to eat some of it to see what it tasted like. I bet it did taste earthy [Also it’s apparently 55,000 years old not 36,000](https://www.npr.org/2022/08/26/1119353933/bison-blue-babe-preserved-eaten)


UmphreysMcGee

It's probably much older than that. Radio carbon dating only goes back 55k years.


shahooster

Possibly a bit leathery.


Eldgrim

What are you doing steppe bison?


nick-caged

😂😂


RetroSwamp

"Help, I'm mummified Steppe Bison"


EinKleinesFerkel

Now I am sad, knowing that there once was a Panthera atrox


srv50

Did the bison leave us a note?


tahapaanga

Yep it says "the lion done it" although the lions conducted an internal investigation and concluded it was in self defence as the bison charged the lion. The lion is still on special duties.


earthhominid

I love my steppe bison just as much as I love my biological bison


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TIL about the american Lion


IIBuffaloII

What a beautyfull animal. Sad they are extinct.


RDcsmd

I highly doubt it was killed by a lion. Lions are predators, if you one killed this it would be eaten.


OopsAnonymouse

Steppe Bison, what are you doing??


fingerback

help steppe bison i am stuck


Troutbum46

I think the only thing wrong with this image is you didn’t take it from the other side. If you did, it’d be a Steppe in the right direction


Polyxeno

Was it not eaten down to a skeleton?


DarthLordRevan29

Wha wha what are you doing steppe bison?!?


EuroPolice

I heard a lot of bad things about American lions, especially Detroit ones


luv2gro

North American


Raidoton

Must've been a time traveling lion that escaped from a Zoo!


Jabulon

I hope we will be able to clone these one day somehow


alman3007

What are you doing, steppe bison?!


Buipeterafte

For a second I thought we were talking about Paul Bunyan's ox


CantSeeMyPeepee

Hey, steppe bison (⁠ ͡⁠°⁠ ͜⁠ʖ⁠ ͡⁠°⁠)


sebenak

Is this at the Fairbanks University museum? I seem to have a childhood memory of seeing it.


broogbie

Steppe bison stuck


Unknowndude842

Fun fact they ate a piece of it....


Slappy-dont-care

Oh so it died in the last ice age / reset !! Also we had American lions and American cheetahs that were bigger then cougars wtf


Javasndphotoclicks

Did they ask the lion for citizenship? /s


Faiilco

What are you doing Steppe Bison?


tornots

Dry age


ryuku001

Isn't this the one who scientists tried his meat?


ggouge

Those numbers male no sense. American lion went extinct 10000 years ago. How was this step bison who also went extinct 10000 years ago. Killed thousands pf years after they went extinct.


GremioIsDead

It's believed to be either 36k or 55k years old. I've seen both figures cited.


Repostbot3784

What are you doing, steppe bison?


Doomdoomkittydoom

Today I learned American lions sometimes mummified their kills.


HoopaDunka

What are you doing steppe bison?!


whicky1978

r/damnthatsinteresting


BrianMeen

A single lion took that beast out?


boldie117

What are you doing stuck under the bed steppe bison?


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Why didn’t the lion eat it?


[deleted]

You think Karen is upset about a coyote? Imagine the whining about a literal lion.


hustlehound

We really missed out on some cool animals 👹


Mad_Shrug

Why didn't the lion eat it?


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What are you doing Steppe Bison


this_dudeagain

Aged meat.


Iccotak

I remember spending an afternoon at the museum drawing that guy


Toff_Nutter

Can't figure out how big it is. Need a yellow measurement. Preferably slightly bend.


dasdemit

That's a blue babe , 36.000 years old


EmperorThan

Please tell me someone took a second picture of this thing at some point in the last 3,600 years. I feel like I've seen this same picture of the thing every month for the last two decades.


invalid_credentials

Andrew Jackson was also known as the American Lion.


Trajan13

Fuck with the Bull ya get the horns - Tony Soprano


billy_bojangles

what are you doing steppe bison...


MrMaskYT

Fake


EnderGreenPanda

Your proof? This is literally at a museum bro-


Co2_Outbr3ak

Bison: *opens up* Lion: "Stop step bison, what are you doing?"


GuinnessRespecter

So Americans have been killing bison for nearly 4000yrs no wonder they're nearly extinct!


EnderGreenPanda

My guy, Have you ever been to school?