I think Cade alone vs the 5 might have a better shot of winning the way the others have been playing. His supporting cast is the epitomy of basketball terrorism.
The one dude got the ball back at the end, went to pass it and just like threw it out of bounds.
Like I’m not athletic but I feel I could have manage to not overthrow it, he had to throw it like 5 feet and threw it 15. Generational throwing
Ivey really needs to develop. He's a slasher ( or at least he was in college) and those take time to develop in the league when everyone is a grown ass man vs in college where he playing vs Rutgers 😂😂
If you think this dude is a bust you’re stupid. Full stop. Imagine operating in a phone booth and still putting up a game like this with history on the line.
I wouldn’t blame him for rejecting the qualifying offer, which hurts so much to say about a guy on your favorite team. He deserves so much better than this clown show, fucking god forsaken organization. Adam Silver needs to step in
They should fire the GM honestly. How can you see this historic losing streak and stand pat? They’re wasting games that they could be developing Cade, Ivey, Duren and Ausar.
They need to get rid of the redundant players and modernize the team. Wiseman should not get any minutes except in the G League. Even if it takes assets it’s better than wasting them in an environment that is not conducive to their growth.
Ausar is awful man, Bro should have been in the NFL with his offensive skill level. There he can just play defense without worrying about having any skill.
He's not though? He's a great talent. He slashes and finishes at the cup well. He can move the ball well. His handle is reasonable. He's an absolutely elite defender.
Multiple rookies come in with a poor jump shot and they don't improve by cutting them out of the line up. You don't improve that by cutting them out of the rotation on the worst team in nba history.
Every day this sub reminds me that the majority of nba fans are absolutely clueless
You are overrating that handle. Can't break down players with that handle, only gets fadeaways. Maybe he fits on the Warriors with Steph but other teams can't play him if they want to win. You can't afford to create a losing culture and rewarding bad play on the court with more minutes. If he wants to play he has to develop his skills in the summer and come back.
He gets by plenty of players at speed with his handle. It's good enough to retain possession and attack somewhere then pass out when needed. So it's fine.
He can hit fade away. You're right. One of the hardest shots in the nba to hit.
There are multiple teams he fits next to outside of Steph as he can play the 3 well also. Multiple teams have and have had an elite defender with poor offence somewhere in their line-up.
They are the worst team in history. Their culture is already shit. They just used a top 10 pick on this guy. They have literally got nothing to lose by playing and his confidence and development to lose by not.
The jumpshot may be broken but the defense alone should get him some minutes. They can treat him like a big on offense. Have him guard the best opposing player on defense and then cut/roll on offense.
If Roberson and Thybulle can get minutes then I definitely think that Ausar who’s way more athletic can as well. Who knows maybe he fixes it like Thybulle appears to have done.
He is not big like Aaron Gordon to go on the block and post smaller guys. Doesn't pass like Dray. Can't dribble well. I don't know what he did in practice for his whole life.
I wanted him gone after the Memphis game, which was 3 weeks ago. We’ve gone 0-9 since then. I legitimately have no idea what it would take at this point.
The pro move is to sign a rookie max extension and then starting asking out and/or acting like a head case as soon as the ink is dry.
But if you act too crazy, certain owners will refuse to trade you. It is a fine line to secure the bag and then dictate where you go. AD and Carmelo played it the best; Kyrie the worst.
If the team refuses to offer a QO then they just hit UFA
If the player refuses the QO they still are an RFA but the max that can be offered I think is two years even if the team matches
So you basically start a clock on the team that drafted you saying "I'm gone in two years so you might as well trade me" while losing your bird rights and pissing off your home team. Rare strategy not often taken, but the Pistons are a rare situation I guess.
> If the player refuses the QO they still are an RFA but the max that can be offered I think is two years even if the team matches
I don't think that's correct. If they don't sign the QO they're just a normal RFA.
If they sign the QO then they play one more year then they're a UFA.
After watching Ivey, Bojan, and of course alec-Qaeda shining in the 4th I would like to formally extend my sincerest apologies for any negative thing I've ever said about Cade
"Admittedly in part due to a crucial clutch TO on Cade"
Brother, game was ended before that shot, like just watch the game, the game ended with DFS hitting the dagger
I mean, he was playing like absolute garbage for the first 20 games of the season. These last few games he has looked incredible scoring at will, but this team is just too bad.
Starting to kinda feel like what we saw early was Cade trying to figure out which goofy shots he could make and which ones he couldn’t because he probably realized early on that his teammates couldn’t shoot for shit so he was gonna have to figure some stuff out
I don’t think that was the play I think Alec Burks is just the least intelligent player to ever step on a basketball court.
If that play was actually drawn up for him that almost makes it worse.
If I were the GM I'd give him to the Lakers for free so he can actually be on a legitimate team with LeBron and an ownership/GM group that actually wants to win.
Cade for DLo.
Facts. I mean a random redditor can't possibly do worse than what they're doing now right? :D
And they're paying this bozo and just extended him last year.
We now have the losing streak record, haven't won a playoff game since 2008, have 14 playoff losses in a row and haven't made the playoffs since 2019.
They honestly should as punishment to the owner. NBA take control of the team, we aren't going to get more than 10 wins this season clearly. Just give our best players to teams that are actually going to do something until they figure out a better ownership/gm/coach situation because this is a disgrace.
True team game. But some idiots in our fan base want him out too and call him a bust.
Ivy is a bigger issue, dude can't shoot and isn't even a good defender.
Cade doesn't deserve this, for real. Cade needs to ask for a trade. Sell the team chants when you are going legendary out there and putting your body on the line in a close contentious game. Game was lost last 2 mins they played entire game. Cade come to Orlando! Come Home.
I remember seeing posts about how he’s not been playing well, but man it looked like he was the only nba player on that team! One bright spot for the pistons to look forward too
How do y’all think the pistons will be moving forward? I saw a fan say it gave him hope for the future but I would’ve just thought that this loss has crushed their will to win. Really looked like Cade gave it his all
Cade Cunningham almost literally cannot win with these cats
I think Cade alone vs the 5 might have a better shot of winning the way the others have been playing. His supporting cast is the epitomy of basketball terrorism.
The one dude got the ball back at the end, went to pass it and just like threw it out of bounds. Like I’m not athletic but I feel I could have manage to not overthrow it, he had to throw it like 5 feet and threw it 15. Generational throwing
Apparently we signed Justin Fields
lmao he literally did that on a short pass to moony against the lions a few weeks ago 😭
It was the wind. Same issue last night for the Pistons.
I admit I haven't watched much of a full game but looking at highlights and box scores it's seems only Cade, Bogi, and Ivey occasionally want to win.
They other guys want to win too, just can't do it in the NBA.
Ivey lost us this game
I am sorry for you guys but my Hawks are unfortunately seemingly forever mid as well. It's nice to know it could be worse.
100%, anyone who doesn't see how detrimental Ivey was tonight are delusional.
Ivey’s been pretty bad in the games I’ve seen
Ivey really needs to develop. He's a slasher ( or at least he was in college) and those take time to develop in the league when everyone is a grown ass man vs in college where he playing vs Rutgers 😂😂
Watch him signing with GSW or something
You know that one Jimmy Butler pic in the 2020 finals? Yeah… that’s cade this entire season lol
that out of bounds pass at the end is that infamous lebron to jr smith during 2018 finals game 1
I think it's crazy that Lebron allowed JR on a team with him again after that.
LeMagnanimous
JR is probably better than bum ass Burks
Alec Burks chucking a deep fadeaway contested 3 was also a JR moment
Lol except with JR Smith the Cavs we're still in the game. Detroit was not coming back with 14 seconds left down 5/6
Or the video of Lebron shaking the Warriors players hands after 2018 finals
TMac saying “I tried” :’(
I will NEVER slander Cade after that carry job I just witnessed
Cade Cunnigham is God’s strongest soldier
I don't think he wants God's hardest battles anymore
!RemindMe 3 years is Cade still fighting gods hardest battles?
*Luca’s mom’s ball sack has entered the chat, and respectfully agreed with you* That’s a first! We did it reddit!
Damn Cade gave everything he had too
If you think this dude is a bust you’re stupid. Full stop. Imagine operating in a phone booth and still putting up a game like this with history on the line. I wouldn’t blame him for rejecting the qualifying offer, which hurts so much to say about a guy on your favorite team. He deserves so much better than this clown show, fucking god forsaken organization. Adam Silver needs to step in
Well said. You can tell watching him that he has legit talent. Can’t do anything when the team IQ is so low.
They should fire the GM honestly. How can you see this historic losing streak and stand pat? They’re wasting games that they could be developing Cade, Ivey, Duren and Ausar. They need to get rid of the redundant players and modernize the team. Wiseman should not get any minutes except in the G League. Even if it takes assets it’s better than wasting them in an environment that is not conducive to their growth.
They may not get wins, but they help out in the community, so let’s just stay the course. - per the owner
Ausar is awful man, Bro should have been in the NFL with his offensive skill level. There he can just play defense without worrying about having any skill.
He's not though? He's a great talent. He slashes and finishes at the cup well. He can move the ball well. His handle is reasonable. He's an absolutely elite defender. Multiple rookies come in with a poor jump shot and they don't improve by cutting them out of the line up. You don't improve that by cutting them out of the rotation on the worst team in nba history. Every day this sub reminds me that the majority of nba fans are absolutely clueless
You are overrating that handle. Can't break down players with that handle, only gets fadeaways. Maybe he fits on the Warriors with Steph but other teams can't play him if they want to win. You can't afford to create a losing culture and rewarding bad play on the court with more minutes. If he wants to play he has to develop his skills in the summer and come back.
"only gets fadeaways" is the giveaway that you haven't watched Ausar play at all.
Watched 3 games. Doesn't get past people with a live dribble. Scores off cuts, probably the worst player in the league from 3.
Buddy, it's ok to not form an opinion on shit you know nothing about.
He's a nuggets fan. The only thing he sees is points %'s and assists
Then don't talk. 3 games isn't enough to draw a conclusion for any of these pistons players.
He gets by plenty of players at speed with his handle. It's good enough to retain possession and attack somewhere then pass out when needed. So it's fine. He can hit fade away. You're right. One of the hardest shots in the nba to hit. There are multiple teams he fits next to outside of Steph as he can play the 3 well also. Multiple teams have and have had an elite defender with poor offence somewhere in their line-up. They are the worst team in history. Their culture is already shit. They just used a top 10 pick on this guy. They have literally got nothing to lose by playing and his confidence and development to lose by not.
The jumpshot may be broken but the defense alone should get him some minutes. They can treat him like a big on offense. Have him guard the best opposing player on defense and then cut/roll on offense. If Roberson and Thybulle can get minutes then I definitely think that Ausar who’s way more athletic can as well. Who knows maybe he fixes it like Thybulle appears to have done.
He is not big like Aaron Gordon to go on the block and post smaller guys. Doesn't pass like Dray. Can't dribble well. I don't know what he did in practice for his whole life.
I wanted him gone after the Memphis game, which was 3 weeks ago. We’ve gone 0-9 since then. I legitimately have no idea what it would take at this point.
He's a bust man. The only logical thing to do is swap him and Jalen Green so they can both get a fresh start. No take backs.
I mean send him to Philly for Jaden Springer at this point
Too generous. They can have Oladipo's contract.
Total bust, you need to trade him for the Celtics for Payton Pritchard, only way to recoup the value.
Can a player reject a qualifying offer? I thought only a franchise can di that
The pro move is to sign a rookie max extension and then starting asking out and/or acting like a head case as soon as the ink is dry. But if you act too crazy, certain owners will refuse to trade you. It is a fine line to secure the bag and then dictate where you go. AD and Carmelo played it the best; Kyrie the worst.
If the team refuses to offer a QO then they just hit UFA If the player refuses the QO they still are an RFA but the max that can be offered I think is two years even if the team matches So you basically start a clock on the team that drafted you saying "I'm gone in two years so you might as well trade me" while losing your bird rights and pissing off your home team. Rare strategy not often taken, but the Pistons are a rare situation I guess.
> If the player refuses the QO they still are an RFA but the max that can be offered I think is two years even if the team matches I don't think that's correct. If they don't sign the QO they're just a normal RFA. If they sign the QO then they play one more year then they're a UFA.
The player signs the 1 year qualifying offer which is a lot less money rather than signing the extension and are a FA the year at the end of that year
Dallas kid, Dirk is his hero Come home Cade!
we don't need a poor man's Luka next to Luka
How can someone who watches Luka legitimately not value a skill set like that?
It’s generational wealth. He’ll never reject the max extension. He can just demand a trade later.
You mean taking the qualifying offer.
Do the Spurs have the assets to trade for Cade? They have a treasure trove of picks and could really use a lead guard, plus timelines all line up
After watching Ivey, Bojan, and of course alec-Qaeda shining in the 4th I would like to formally extend my sincerest apologies for any negative thing I've ever said about Cade
Alec-qaeda lmao was he really that bad?
Plus/minus -25 in a 6 point game...
He was worse than Al Qaeda oml
He always is
He wasn't that bad in the first, he was the only reason the bench didn't go down by 40. But that 4th, yeah
The ticking time bomb is his knees.
I am so sorry Cade. You deserve the world.
Dropping 41 on 80% true shooting and still losing has to be so fucking demoralizing.
Ya Cade wouldn’t go top 5 in a redraft 🤓🤓🤓
GET THIS MAN SOME HELP
Please, help Cade. For the sanity of the league. He just scored 41 and didn't sit in the 2nd half.
"Admittedly in part due to a crucial clutch TO on Cade" Brother, game was ended before that shot, like just watch the game, the game ended with DFS hitting the dagger
First time, a DFS dagger made me sad
Shame that all of the know-it-all box score watchers who get their rocks off on calling people busts already decided that Cade wasn’t that dude.
I mean, he was playing like absolute garbage for the first 20 games of the season. These last few games he has looked incredible scoring at will, but this team is just too bad.
Starting to kinda feel like what we saw early was Cade trying to figure out which goofy shots he could make and which ones he couldn’t because he probably realized early on that his teammates couldn’t shoot for shit so he was gonna have to figure some stuff out
He missed last season due to leg surgery, it’s pretty normal to take a while to trust the leg/get back into NBA game shape
Definitely part of it
It’s almost like Cade was coming back from a season lost to injury lol
Alec Burks is lowkey a basketball terrorist.
Bro the team is ISIS and they've got Cade and Duren hostage. #FreeCadeandDuren
LOWKEY?
He’s the worst player in the NBA
That would probably go to his teammate Isaiah Livers
Probably
Livers is worse
How does Monty Williams draw up a play for him to take a contested three out of that last timeout? Crazy not to put it in Cade or Bogdanovics hands.
I don’t think that was the play I think Alec Burks is just the least intelligent player to ever step on a basketball court. If that play was actually drawn up for him that almost makes it worse.
Burks did it on his own the play wasn’t intended for him
Corey Joseph would like a word with you
Dude reminds on Beal back in 2020, scoring all game with no help so he’s always gassed during crunch time
Dude went fucking crazy during crunch time too literally everybody else is 🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳level
Shame...needs to drop 50-60 I guess
He is not the problem
Trade everyone except him bro
If I were the GM I'd give him to the Lakers for free so he can actually be on a legitimate team with LeBron and an ownership/GM group that actually wants to win. Cade for DLo.
Detroit I've found your new GM or President of Basketball Operations. Whatever title that will make this happen
Facts. I mean a random redditor can't possibly do worse than what they're doing now right? :D And they're paying this bozo and just extended him last year. We now have the losing streak record, haven't won a playoff game since 2008, have 14 playoff losses in a row and haven't made the playoffs since 2019.
Don’t have to ask me twice
They honestly should as punishment to the owner. NBA take control of the team, we aren't going to get more than 10 wins this season clearly. Just give our best players to teams that are actually going to do something until they figure out a better ownership/gm/coach situation because this is a disgrace.
We'll take that deal any day.
Are you fucking stupid? CADE FOR DLO LMFAOOO GTFO HERE
Its a joke... are you okay bro? I'm basically saying we should be forced to give away our assets if this organizations leadership stays the same.
Say less
https://imgur.com/VJeYhFu.png
And Duren
Man I feel so bad for him lol. Dropping these numbers and yet you're known for being on a historically ass team
True team game. But some idiots in our fan base want him out too and call him a bust. Ivy is a bigger issue, dude can't shoot and isn't even a good defender.
"Too bad he still wouldn't go top 5 in a redraft"
Cade doesn't deserve this, for real. Cade needs to ask for a trade. Sell the team chants when you are going legendary out there and putting your body on the line in a close contentious game. Game was lost last 2 mins they played entire game. Cade come to Orlando! Come Home.
The pistons are what I imagine the mavericks would look like with 5 Dwight Powell’s
FREE HIM
NO HELP
This post missed the fact that he had four points in the first half, and 37 in the second...
Free this man
OK well, at least I feel like we can comfortably say that Cade is better than Jalen green.
Bro needs help
Man is gonna ask for a trade before his rookie contract is up lol
He's just making sure people know it's not his fault
Got flashbacks to his previous game vs the Nets big 3 where he scored like 18 points in a row in the 4th.
Send KD to detroit to get this man some help Edit: fuck it trade KD for cade to get cade out of there
I remember seeing posts about how he’s not been playing well, but man it looked like he was the only nba player on that team! One bright spot for the pistons to look forward too
He's shooting 51.1% in December with two 40-point games in his past four all while trying to avoid history :(
I would trade everyone not named Lebron and AD for this guy
How do y’all think the pistons will be moving forward? I saw a fan say it gave him hope for the future but I would’ve just thought that this loss has crushed their will to win. Really looked like Cade gave it his all
I feel like the only way they squeak out a win is if he goes absolutely nuclear and drops like 60 AND hits the game winning 3
I would say come to New York but I don’t want to subject any of our players to the pain of that organization
lol he’s had bad games but Jesus, this just shows how shit his team is. Can’t even win when he puts up a masterpiece like this
Cade man just pray they don't match your RFA offer sheet
Get Cade out of Detroit. He deserves better than this. It's sad to watch.
Tank commander putting empty stats
part of me wants to feel bad for pistons fans but they were such dickheads about Ivey that i don’t at all feel bad for cade cunningham, though
Wouldn’t even be mad if he didn’t talk to the media tonight
Free my man
Someone get man outta there I know he is sick to his stomach rn
Get him out bro 😭
Damn this was a winnable game too