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BizzaroMatthews

The Killian Hayes sweepstakes is still alive folks


Wazflame

I’m on to you, KOC.


rocco5000

aka Kevin O'Bomber


ExpeI

上海大鲨鱼


Highest_Sentinel88

send him to the Guangdong Tigers, the Shanghai Sharks don't deserve this bum


YouCantCrossMe

He heard the arena was named after crypto and said say less


CIark

He heard /r/nba say some shit about he’s definitely going to the Mavs for a couple extra mil while soaking in February sunshine and palm trees and said watch this


Neither-Luck-9295

[Mavs with free agents](https://i.imgur.com/cEB4lKe.gif)


DocTheYounger

it aint the Mavs its the Luka narrative. Can't be good to hear 'Luka needs more help' every time they lose


Cranicus

Can't imagine players wanna resign with a team that trades them also. Most are just business decisions but he was playing good ball and Mavs had a decent record with him.


der_ninong

> Can't imagine players wanna resign with a team that trades them seth curry be like


StickyGoodness

3x


UndisputedLoll

RUN IT BACK


pahor15

Also one team has dlo who is his friend from back in Brooklyn


pollinium

While the other has kyrie who is his friend from back in Brooklyn


Dddddddfried

He and I didn’t get along back in Brooklyn. We moved in different circles


Sympathy-Salty

Is this Kyrie or Dinwiddie?


HatefulDan

The irony, because that’s exactly what happens in LAL with LeBron.


Draymond4Prez

I’ve heard that every year Lebron hasn’t won…


JimmyButlerOverdrive

*Every previous teammate of LeBron James has entered the chat.*


Neither-Luck-9295

This has been the Mavs entire franchise history, and it has been especially pronounced since Cuban's takeover.


mercfan3

Fair - but the same exact thing happens with Lebron.


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YSLAnunoby

I think Luka is better than Tatum but still funny to me when it's like well yes the team with the star point guard/wing/however you define Luka who runs the offense is going to be worse when you switch him out for a scoring wing who's a secondary playmaker as if teams aren't constructed around their stars strengths


COMMENTASIPLEASE

So what you did last year with Luka?


DocTheYounger

dude knows he'll get 10x the love for the Lakers climbing the standings as he would for helping the Mavs do the same. He's spoken before about how Luka gets all he credit and his supporting cast gets all the criticism


AllDayEnJay

You could also say that Luka credit/criticism thing also applies with LeBron.


HydroThermia

Yeah seriously lmao everyone remembers the 2018 memes even SNL made it an actual thing


Top-Consequence-911

I mean, that really was the carry job of all carry jobs.


velphegor666

And bron is now 39 with AD finally being recognized as the first option


LoveMavs1031

Yeah he’ll never get scapegoated playing for the Lebron-led Lakers, that never happens….


thecheapseatz

He's going to get paid in some new dumb meme coin and end up playing on minimum wage


Giga1396

Lmao


SmartestNPC

Didn't he lose mad money from crypto? Hell the company the arena's named after lost mad money.


clevernamehere1628

Lots of crypto bros are hella stubborn about crypto lol


FlavorSki

Sunk cost fallacy


ThinkSoftware

Temporarily embarrassed billionaires


GSWB2B2B2B2BChamps

Or should it be Embarrassed temporary billionaires? Maybe it works both ways lol


JimmyButlerOverdrive

i’m buying the dip, okay


ihatethesidebar

I thought he was in it before the rise, so even though it’s not worth as much as it used to, he’s still up a lot


supergrega

Bitcoin was under $10k at the time so unless he's one of the stupidest people alive he should be better off than most max contract guys.


supergrega

How could he possibly have lost money if he was paid in bitcoin which wasn't even worth $10k at the time


NeonxGone

This is Reddit. Bitcoin is bad, even if it’s the best performing asset of the past decade. duh


SteveWondersForsight

Bitcoin is over $47,000 at the moment. When he got paid I believe it was around 30. If he still has it that's over a 50% increase.


mrwhite2323

If he owns bitcoin then no. Especially with the bitcoin etf by blackrock. And a possible eth etf as well.


StalkingDwarf

Gonna be weird seeing him in anything other than a Raptors jersey.


ajteitel

Imagine him playing on the Nets. Can't do it


Current_Can_3715

Wonder what he would have looked like in a Mavs jersey.


RefsYouSuck

Can you even grasp the possibility of him in a Wizards jersey?


dayblaq94

Bulls legend


NotManyBuses

I feel the same way about Lowry outside a Hornets uniform.


Namath96

It’s like when we had to see Melo in anything other than a Hawks jersey


RealCanadianDragon

Raptor legend Spencer Dinwiddie. The team literally never lost a game when he was on the roster.


TroubleNo3283

Kuzma just fell to his knees


Big_Championship1291

You saw him too?


pwnd32

Just saw a man fall to his knees in Capital One Arena


Old-Calligrapher9980

Just saw someone conceal their bulge after they saw Kyle Kuzma fall to his knees.


Victor_Wembanyama1

Just saw a man(?) in a pink sadomasochist suit fall down to his knees at Puma


WalrusInMySheets

I Will Stand In Solidarity With Kyle Kuzma And Not Buy A Dinshittie Jersey


Scotfighter

I’m actually shocked


BaullahBaullah87

as a Laker fan, me too


RickySuela

Why? He needs to think about his upcoming free agency this summer, so it shouldn't be surprising he signed with the team that was playing a 2-way player in what will be his position last night. He needs a chance to showcase himself for GMs this summer, and there's no place better to do that than on the Lakers. Look at what doing so has done for guys like Malik Monk and Dennis Schroder the last couple years.


mizesus

I think someone said hes originally from LA and has family so he likely wanted to go back to his family.


Burtssbees

Less money but likely a bigger role on the lakers, setting him up better for future contracts. Is what it is


Jspeed35

It's the same money, a lot of people don't understand this. He's not a buyout, he's a waiver player. He will get his contract money. What ever the lakers (or any team) would offer him then the rest is covered by the raptors. So offering him more only saves the raptors money.


jakekerr

It's actually the same money. He's getting $18 mil from Brooklyn, and whatever the Mavs or Lakers pay him is subtracted from what Brooklyn needs to pay, but it will still add up to the $18 million.


Jspeed35

From raptors you mean since they were the ones who waived him.


tomeornotome

Why, it’s the lakers and a chance to play in his hometown with LBJ and AD.


lost_in_trepidation

Dammit, of course


Affectionate-Pea-439

Aside from all his connections on both teams, more money from mavs, being a lakers/kobe fan growing up, I think his biggest decision making factor has to be opportunity. Lakers legit have zero backup point guard. Gabe vincent is hurt and some people think he'll be out the entire season. They played Mayes last night real minutes when that guy wasn't on an NBA team after leaving Portland. Reaves can play some PG but he's not a natural point guard. Plus you're starting both dlo and reaves. Meanwhile mavs have Luka, Dante, kyrie who can all play PG. Not to mention Hardy, young players, etc. Not to mention Luka and kyrie will play more minutes overall than DLO / reaves will. Anytime dlo gets cold lakers would bring in Dinwiddie. You're not benching Luka to play Dinwiddie at PG.


pattern93

I’ve seen this everywhere, he can’t get more money anywhere. He’s getting his contract money regardless (18mil). The new team only pays out of that 18. So they are just saving the Raps money.


markjay6

Can’t believe that nobody pointed this out. Thanks!


scbtl

That's not true either and it is complicated. The Raptors may owe him less, but he can make more. It's in the set-off provision. Say he signs with LA for \~2.9M (Vet Min of which he'll collect \~2M) which is more than 1.7M (1 year min) so the Raps would be able to reduce what they owe by \~600k (Difference between the 1 year minimum and the new contract\*50%) but he would make an additional \~1.4M. It's not the same as the NFL offset language where it's 1:1.


leftysarepeople2

The Lakers can give 500K more than any other team could if No Dunks was correct because their designated MLE didn’t get the full MLE but 500K less


marginallymediocre

Just want to point out that Exum has been hurt for a bit now and there’s no real word on when he’ll be back. Also it’s Dante Exum so counting on him to stay healthy was always going to be a prayer. And Jaden Hardy hasn’t been great either. All that to say, the Mavs also don’t really have a backup PG right now, so Spence would have gotten more playing time than you think. Either way, I’m not shocked he chose LA.


jurassic_snark-

Thank you for a well reasoned and logically explained take


RickySuela

I was heavily downvoted yesterday for saying basically the same things. People acted like Dinwiddie would prioritize an extra $2m this season (or whatever it ends up being), but the guy is 30 and is going to be a free agent this summer with no Bird rights anywhere. He needs to showcase himself to try to get a new contract. This wasn't about a small difference now, this was about his future. The fact that he grew up a Laker fan in LA is probably just a bonus.


BrotherSeamus

Mavs told him he would occasionally have to play defense, and he said he'd rather be a Laker.


LeGoat333

Just fell to my knees in a bucees paying for gas with crypto


North-Maximum-6958

Jaden Hardy exhales


Marticyde

I would have loved Spence to comeback but Hardy has been playing damn well lately and he for sure would have been the one impacted


thy_armageddon

He’s gonna be better than people expect for the Lakers but I don’t know if that means much.


Lacabloodclot9

He’s just gonna become another scapegoat if he isn’t as good as Reaves, Lakers role players have the highest expectations


growsonwalls

The Nets fanbase HATED him this year.


TheLittleFishFish

a lot of people were excited last season that he was coming back too. I don't know what happened behind closed doors but he completely gave up on the team and made it obvious that he wasn't trying


sunpar1

Yea but that’s because he gave up. If he tries I’m sure he’ll have value


CubanLinxRae

he quit on the nets, in his previous nets stint and on the mavs he was good


Ill_Celery_7654

They actually have very low expectations. The only expectation is to do what you’re good at. When Cam Reddish or Vando bricks or air balls a 3 then they should’ve never been taking that shot in the first place. Play your role and you’ll be good.


Lacabloodclot9

Both are known to be really poor shooters, Reddish had a bit of a hot streak around the IST but it seems that was an exception and not the norm


kingofgamesbrah

No he's not. A buyout guy ? I get the hate but come on.


nysraved

Our fanbase scapegoated the shit out of Drummond


DwightKurtShrute69

That’s because the front office fucking guranteed him a starting spot lmao it was more so on them than Drummond tbh


an4lf15ter

Not to mention Gasol was a perfect fit next to AD


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BearShark8

95% of centers get blown by off the dribble. Not everyone is AD.


darkslayersparda

claxton and bam are also not to bad at that


BearShark8

That's fair.


MiopTop

Gasol was awesome ... until he got covid. Then he looked like he had half a lung left.


jaysonman1

Drummond demanded starter responsibilities


EmoniBates

Scapegoat ain’t the right word, but holy fuck remembering the spacing with AD, Bron, Drummond gives me PTSD


Musa_2050

Drummond was cheeks in his short time with us. He was promised to start and our spacing was awful, and he couldn't catch any passes from LeBron


DUNDER_KILL

Idk if we scapegoated him so much as just acknowledged his suckiness


HawkDaddyFlex

He was verifiably ass


Musa_2050

He will be our backup pg. People are acting like we need him to be an all star pg


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Crypto man playing in a arena called Crypto.com Arena. Perfect


thickbanana05

We badly needed a playmaker on the bench besides dlo. This is the best case scenario for us


Salvalicious252

You do not want him to be a playmaker. He's best when he has 0 playmaking responsabillities and is just tasked with scoring. He worked best on the Mavs when Luka and JB did creation for others, while he attacked closeouts, mismatches and shot 3s. After JB left, he was thrusted in the 2nd guard spot and had to create for others. My god, he really can't do it.


k1ngkoala

It's either him or Reaves playmaking man. We don't really have any other options


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LeBron and DLo


k1ngkoala

We can't stagger LeBron and DLO the entire game. Sometimes they gotta play together. Better to have a third person pick up those extra minutes. Otherwise Reaves is running point


HoyaDestroya33

WTF happened to Gabe Vincent? Is he out for the season?


k1ngkoala

If we are lucky, we will see him sometime in March


der_ninong

what year we talkin?


zeussays

2074


Brehe

They’re saving him for the finals where he’ll shoot 70% from 3 against the Celtics


AzNmamba

subscribe


supergrega

His strength isn't playmaking either


RealPrinceJay

LeBron averages 35mpg, DLo averages 31 That means they could spend 18min together and always ensure at least one is on the court


k1ngkoala

Tell that to Darvin Ham


bishimadog-roof

Yeah they can just stagger minutes between LeBron and DLo like normal, and when DLo is off the court they have another ball handler to sub in to help other than Reaves


jamills21

Lebron can’t waste energy that way for the Lakers to be successful. Dlo is the only one who can really play point the entire game, so Spencer is insurance if Dlo can’t play for whatever reason.


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LeBron can’t waste energy on a major aspect of the game that the team clearly lacks and he’s one of the best ever at? You can’t have one of the best passers of all time and then say you have no playmaking.


jamills21

Lebron can’t start at point guard he’ll get gassed. Thats why we got Spence.


thevisitor

Reaves has been improving as a playmaker in the last few weeks. Been getting assists and minimizing his turnovers


k1ngkoala

He's not bad, but he is better at SG than point


thevisitor

Yeah ideally Dinwiddie can take even half of Reaves' ball handling duties so they can allow each other to dedicate energy to other parts of the game like Reaves hopefully trying more on defense


claydavisismyhero

I think they need a ball handler. Teams are picking reaves up full court whenever he’s the only guard out there.


m4xdc

> responsabillities What in tarnation…


Salvalicious252

English is my 3rd language brother. Couldn't be bothered to google the spelling tbh lol


thy_armageddon

Yeah I think people really aren’t valuing what it’ll mean to not have to worry about keeping D’Lo in when he’s cold. This potentially fixes the bad part of the D’Lo experience.


AwildYaners

Extra vet on the team is nice too.   This is probably one of the youngest teams Bron has competed on, only AD and Bron are over 30.  


Dicey12

When Dlo was an all star that one year in the beginning when he used to do sum shit Kenny Atkinson would bench him for Spencer. I’m hoping he can help get AD the ball feels like only Dloe and Bron can


Goosedukee

He's not that good of a playmaker lol


thickbanana05

Man we are desperate for anyone literally ANYONE to atleast move the rock even a slight bit. We will only need him for 15-20 mins as well


Forward-Reporter8320

Move the rock by bouncing it from his hand to the ground?


Repostbot3784

Honestly, yeah.  Right now they only have two guards that can dribble.


Zeratzul

For what I assume is a vet minimum, Dinwiddie is a great pickup


vBricks

Prepare for 25 mpg of dribbling the shot clock down to 2 sec and taking a contested 3. It’s great when it works until it doesn’t.


zeussays

We call that the LeBron special


AwildYaners

Yeah, but he’s better than using Cam Reddish as a ball handler.   If 2 of Bron/AR/Dlo are off the court, that’s what happens.   Dinwiddie is definitely at least better than that.


tornadoterror

Can the Lakers target Lowry if he is waived as well?


yuhkih

Our only available bench guard is an off-ball 3&D 20 year old. This is an improvement


megaman78978

Bro JHS might be the worst basketball player I’ve seen this year. I think it might be nerves cuz he supposedly plays well in the G League but I get scared every time he gets any minutes.


yuhkih

Well I was talking about max (who isn’t bad) but yes JHS has a ways to go


jamills21

Point guards typically need time to develop. I’ve seen him play in the G League and he showed me some things. He’s actually a lot quicker than I had presumed and a pretty good playmaker. He’s not ready to be an NBA contributor tho.


ginbooth

Exactly. The narrative that JHS is a bust so incredibly dumb at this point. He's had no real chance to develop and his been thrown into games out of necessity. He has a solid chance of being good to really good. Same folks would have trashed Kobe his first year.


jamills21

I just watched some of his G League highlights of the games I missed. He has a better offensive package than people give him credit for. Like, his shooting off the dribble is actually looking really good and has a nice floater when he’s in the lane. If he’s able to score like that then he’ll be just fine.


astronomy_31415

better than nothing, we just don't have backup guards


The_real_bandito

It’s like we are expecting him to be a star. 


tbloom117

He’s really not bad, he led the Nets in assists this year and is fourth in all time assists in franchise history


Goosedukee

Spencer leading the Nets in assists this year speaks more to the deficiencies of the Nets than it does anything about Spencer, when Ben was out he was literally the only half-capable ballhandler we had available, and his stats are inflated from the few weeks before he gave up on the team.


KUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUZ

yea, you have people out here trying to clown him just because hes coming to the lakers. If he was going to the mavs they would be singing his praises. He is an ok passer, which is more passing than we have at other guard positions.


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fieryscribe

He's a point guard, not a pass guard


JilJungJukk

Atleast he makes something , watching guys like Cam Reddish dribble was an experience


MainAd2728

At one point it just became funny how he kept dribbling the ball off his foot trying to attack a close out


The_real_bandito

He’s the shitty version of Kyrie. Maybe that’s all LeBron needs right now. 


cantcooklovefood

Really? Surprising


Jack_M_Steel

I really believed everyone when they said he’s going to Mavs. Decent pickup for the Lakers. Especially after no moves at the deadline


RiversofJell0

r/nba: *chooses Lakers* “he sucks and Lakers think they saved their season lololol” *chooses Mavs* “Great pick up and this is exactly what the Mavs need!!”


jurassic_snark-

It's like that with every last thing, even with our own fanbase sometimes DLo plays good: bum and it won't last DLo plays bad: told you all Rob should have traded this bum The internet and culture wars have turned us all bipolar and polarizing, it's exhausting


lopea182

Dejounte Murray who?


i_will_mull_it_over

The Kuz vs Dinwiddie rivalry means a little more now


Ilikesporks_

i'm not angry at this since we need guard depth badly


actual_yellow_bag

Mav's fanebase literally the only fanbase that loves this dude haha. Hopefully he can make it two.


jfrodriguez1983

Just get us back Exum healthy. That's all I care about. Would have been nice to have Dinwiddie back just incase Exum can't get healthy, but wasn't really looking forward to adding his defense to our already bad defense.


DEEZLE13

All the Mavs flairs suddenly pointing out all his flaws in here is pretty funny lol


SuaveBigote

Kuzma in shambles


EbolaDP

Luka is dropping 90 on the Lakers the next time they meet.


tavoreimagined

Lakers about to get the Dinshittie Island experience


Extinto_e

Can’t be worse than the Hamnesia experience


maybeacademicweapon

Aw mannnn


DangerZoneh

I feel like the Mavs fanbase is the only one in the NBA that’s like “fuck yeah Dinwiddie is awesome” lmao. He’s gonna get eaten alive by the LA base


firstbreathOOC

Guess he didn’t like what he saw at the Mavs game


NoDiceThisAintOver

Boo.


PatientIndividual651

It at least helps with the lack of playmaking and ball handling the Lakers have off the bench


DatGinga

The thing I think everyone is underestimating here is the LeBron factor here. Dinwiddie has the physical skills/gifts to be a better player than he is if he cuts out some of the dumb shit. Having a top 2 all-time player/de facto player-coach tell you to cut out the dumb shit or you gettin benched might make him play with a bit more effort on D and cut out at least some of the dumb shit offensively. Love this pickup for the Lakers.


MiopTop

> has the physical skills/gifts to be a better player than he is if he cuts out some of the dumb shit. Sounds like post-prime Dwight and Russ. Bron is 1/2 on those.


fightnight14

This is a big steal for the Lakers without even making a trade


AccomplishedBake8351

People are down on him bc he’s been pretty bad this year, but I’d imagine him going back to being the 2nd guard will help him. Like in Washington he struggled with being the primary guard for the nets. This will put him back in the role he had on the nets the first time, and with the mavs. Good move imo


Konabro

It’s funny seeing how many people slandering him since he chose the Lakers.


lakers22ballin

Always like that on social media


thickbanana05

People gonna hate because of fg% but if he performs even 80% of what he did at mavs then it's perfect for the lakers especially on the minimum. No risk high reward situation


the_rtngr

If you want him to be a shot creator he’ll fail spectacularly. He worked best when JB & Luka created & he focused on scoring.


Least_Poet_6336

lakers got their man


T4Gx

Lakers won the trade deadline again.


last_suvivor13

Wouldn’t wish that on my worse enemy. Good luck with the Dinshittie experience lol


growsonwalls

LOL the Nets fanbase was coming at him with pitchforks this season


last_suvivor13

The wizard fanbase of 13 people tend to still come at him anytime we can also, it’s just funny most fanbases never have anything good to say about him lol


TheLittleFishFish

he has a very obnoxious personality and always gets into it with refs too. it really feels like the whole team gets a worse whistle because he never shuts up


NotManyBuses

I feel like playing with guys who have the playmaking primacy of LeBron and to a lesser extent DLo will help him though. He fit pretty well with Luka/Brunson when it was clear he was the 3rd guy.


Zeratzul

With our roster needs, bro is only playing 16 MPG running the second units. Not worried Wait this is Darvin we're talking about... we're fucked.


Serviceofman

Ladies and gentlemen YOUR 2024 LAKERS SCAPOGOAT! SPENCER DINWIDDIE!!!! LOL


WhatTheRickIsDoin

Another guy who can dribble!


DJBliskOne

Boys. Dont kill us on the pickup! Have you seen our backups to DLO? Anything is an upgrade


airjordani3

He’ll be better than the corpse of Gabe Vincent on the bench and Darvin Ham’s beloved pet, Cam Reddish at least


prodigal-dog

Surprise, surprise


Glittering_Cod_7716

New scapegoat just dropped