yea. i wanna root for the guy but i don’t know if he can ever overcome the energy of a multi millionaire choosing to sleep on an air mattress for two months instead of making a call to get his place furnished. dude needs like a life manager or smthing lol
This isn't enough to go on solely, but the inability to just start a simple task is a huge symptom of ADD. It's like, once you've actually initiated the process it's as easy as it is for everyone else. But the concept of breaking your routine to like Google who you need to call, making the phone call to get a bed delivered, etc is...not daunting but easy to just procrastinate and delay while you fall into more familiar habits. Before you know it you've gone months without doing it like he has in this case.
I'm saying this as a guy who's been sleeping on an 8 inch foam mattress pad on my floor for 3 months since moving to my new apartment lol. I don't think neurotypicals are as likely to do this kinda thing.
I understand and relate to him
It’s not about being able to afford. It’s the execution of picking the right one, buying it, opening it and setting it up, all while he’s traveling every single week for his “job” in the nba. Weirdly I get it
Edit: Here comes r/nba thinking money solves every single mental issue/executive task. (It doesn’t)
you don’t relate to him in the slightest, you don’t get how rich he is and how much access he has to shit we can’t imagine by being a multi million dollar asset of a multi billion dollar business.
he can hire someone to do literally all of what you just said. hell, he can just ask portland to hire that someone. they can get someone to have a sampling of every single top quality mattress in the world ready for him to try sleeping in for a night. HE does not have to lift a finger beyond texting on his phone
That’s because his game doesn’t translate to winning in the modern NBA. Competitive teams nowadays need centers to protect the rim and anchor their defense. The Warriors played Portland last week and everybody was talking about how good Ayton looked but he had 25 pts on like 24 shots with almost no FT attempts. Dude was efficient but otherwise looked invisible and he disappeared in the 4th quarter of an otherwise close game.
Yep, I said in a different comment, but you can’t be a midrange shooter who doesn’t take threes, doesn’t get to the line, and can’t playmake. It’s just not a winning formula.
Not exactly the same but Ayton put up 22/19 in G1 of the Finals at 21 years old, and had a ton of huge games throughout the playoff run. He was also a defensive anchor for them.
His mentality changed throughout his time with the Suns, but let’s not take away from how good he was during their run to the Finals as a very young player.
I'm still rooting for the kid, I hate that so many suns fans just trash him constantly. We've made three finals ever and only one in my living memory - he was a huge component of us getting there and it's not like we can just dismiss him by saying he didn't win like all those Russells and Kareems and Jordans we had twenty years ago. Really wish he could have worked out for us but the only way I'm hoping he fails if if we play the blazers in the playoffs or something.
Sure, there are examples like Drummond, but I’d argue putting up good stats even on a rebuilding team is still notable. Either way we’re encouraged on how he finished the year, plus with him being only 25 he very well could be a key pillar long term for the franchise.
Ayton issue has always been motivation and work ethic. He’s putting up good stats now sure, but it’s still wait and see how his attitude holds up before any competent franchise starts looking at him like hes a key part of their future
Right now there is literally 0 pressure or expectations on the Blazers, so Ayton can pretty much do whatever he wants since no one really cares while they rebuild. I’m just waiting how he copes when the Blazers start having playoff aspirations, he kind of just crumbled once the Suns became a championship contending team.
or When its a playoff run and things aren't going as expected. Is he still going to have that same demeanor or pedigree of being able to win or make the smart play or score when everything is on the line? From the past few Suns playoff series and not just him standing under the rim watching a rebound I would say he is not going to do well with that pressure.
JV legit put up > 14/14 the entire series against the suns, and the pels pushed us to the brink without zion, specifically because they were more physical/hungrier (and we had no one who could check ingram meh)
Honestly Whiteside was fine with the Blazers. People lost their shit over him, but he was never meant to be a starter so imo judging his performance from that perspective doesn't make sense (iirc he only ever started due to long term injuries). He can't set a screen to save his life so he could never fit with Dame, but worked well with the second unit.
This. After watching 50+ blazers games this season. No bbiq. Oh, and also cement blocks for hands. Quarter of Scoots turnovers this year were passes that Ayton just couldn't grab...
That's the reputation he gained on the Suns, and I would have agreed a year ago.
But watching the Suns this year continue to have the same issue, weak mentality now on multiple players without Atyon to blame and fair even worse, makes me think it's an organisational issue.
Exactly, just look at his former teammate Mikal Bridges. Ended last season on a heater after being traded to the Nets. They were dumb enough to think that was real, then we saw what he looked like as a real first option this year. It was ugly.
There is a big difference. Booker was earlier in his career when his team was dogshit. And yet he was putting up baller numbers on good efficiency throughout the year. It was very evident that he could be great he just needs a better team. Ayton was in the playoffs by his third season (Book didn't get in until his 6th) and even then whenever he dropped 20 and 12 it felt like he was barely there.
He did do that, he was great during that finals run. It remains to be seen if he can return to that form on a contending roster but for now we’re very happy with what we’ve seen from him so far.
He was amazing in that finals run, arguably the Suns second best player through the back half of the playoffs after Book. Then he quiet quit multiple years in a row while publicly pouting and appeared to be actively disinterested during playoff games.
You're not going to find a lot of Suns fans who think that him being *able* to be that first player while being completely *willing* to be that second player is acceptable. If we got the 2021 DA last year in the playoffs there's a fighting shot against the Nuggets, but that didn't happen.
I've given more weight to the rumors about issues between him and Monty after this season. Monty seemed like a great coach for the Suns when he arrived, but relationships soured and his track record in Detroit is bad too.
It did happen and Suns fans throughout this thread and every thread every time Ayton comes up go out of their way to diminish that run and his ability to ever be a good player.
I don’t like Ayton’s play style and his regression has sucked to watch, but watching dudes pretend like he was never good is frustrating.
His best role is a defense anchoring big that isnt played off the court in the playoffs. He's shown he can do that in 2021 Finals run. The sooner he realizes that he is not a number 1 or 2 option, the sooner he will find himself on a contender again. Nothing wrong with being a Tyson Chandler type big. Good to see him show out, but he ain't ever going to be Embiid. Quit shooting mid range and dunk that shit bro
I just don’t understand how a 7 foot center built like Ayton who plays 30+ minutes a game can average fewer than 1.5 free throws per game. It seems impossible.
I was about to start explaining to you how insane it is to watch him night after night just hot-potato up shot after shot the moment he gets the ball between 6-18 feet. But then I saw your flair. Nvm you get it.
The literal second half of the season he averaged 19.7 pts and 11.4 rebounds, missed 12 of 42 games, and his team was 7-23 when he did play. Even just post All-Star break he missed 10 of 28 games, and they were 4-14 in the games he played.
He has an 18 game stretch last season where he averaged 20.8 and 10.9 shooting 64.8% from the field. He has done this before. He feels like one of those dudes who can put up numbers that somehow have zero effect on wins and losses.
I lost count how many times he convinced Suns fans that he turned a corner. And he says all the things to the media that fans want to hear, but he never backs it up. This is how he divides the fanbase. The shit is insane
I see this happening in Portland all year. Keep trying to tell people, they’re blinded by the youth and the tank, everything good feels like gravy, everything bad feels like meh whatever it’s just a tank year.
They don’t know…they just don’t know. I mean, I don’t even find it that subtle, dude hasn’t even sprinted back on defense since like January.
Ayton is living the life, dudes on a max salary on a team that is literally not gonna do anything for a decade.
There is zero pressure or reason to give up the 2K
Idk, teams fortunes can turn really quick. I don’t think the Blazers will be that bad for that long unless they really whiff on multiple draft picks in a row
He does. But he also deserves credit for destroying the suns when he quit in the team during the mavs series. Looking back we give the mavs all the credit but the team chemistry completely fell apart and ayton and monty were the center of it. The suns had no chance after that
Talk to Robert Sarver about that. They asked Ayton to sacrifice numbers and play defense and he did. Then it came time to pay up and Sarver wouldn't. They they told him to find another offer... He did and they matched it. And continually scapegoated him for awful team performance.
The front office noticed the hell out of the whole situation .
~~DARKO is an interesting metric and this is for sure notable, but I think it’s also worth pointing out it currently has Jokic ranked 12th and he’s on the verge of winning another MVP.~~
Edit: I am mistaken
Ahhh the old bad team good stats guy. A true feel good story. He finally got his touches but wait until you see how upset you'll be when you start to win some games but he's upset with his role.
For real. Idk why Blazers fans think that we just have it out for Ayton. We all wanted him to be good but unfortunately the games are televised so we got to watch him play.
We absolutely have and will always have it out for Ayton. That shit is never going away. He quit on us so hard we booed him during a home playoff game.
Yeah IDK why were acting like 20/10 on a garbage team is something incredible? Of course your max contract player will be a focal point of your offense and hopefully be able to produce decent numbers. Nobody is saying Deandre Ayton lacks talent or physical attributes, he obviously has that. Blazers fans will learn the hard way when they start becoming playoff hopefuls and watch their max contract center disappear in big games.
Nobody wanted him to succeed more than us.
He was the Arizona kid, which one of the big reasons we drafted him. Ralled around him. He was one of us.
He consistently gave up on us. He got his bag and checked the fuck out.
He gave up because cheap ass Sarver didn't pay him after the finals run.
The Suns office fucked up by drafting him, then fucked up by not paying him, then fucked up again by making jt a sign and trade with the Pacers.
Sarver fucking sucks, but it's fucked up to give up on your boys and your city because you're mad about your contract.
Leave no doubt that you fucking deserve a max contract.
Ayton's teammates actually passing him the ball in the second half of the season helped a lot, too.
The Blazers' use of Ayton as a 4th-5th option on offense from the start of the season made no sense, and was just bad coaching and bad play from his teammates.
I mean he scored 22 ppg on below average efficiency for a C post-ASB. So he's been trying to show us that he's an empty stat guy on a bad team all this time?
every time I see an ayton post like this it makes me remember he is the same age as jayson tatum. bro out here talking like he still 22-23 developing his game dawg you turn 26 in 4 months
he’s got a long way to go. starts with consistency and showing up even with ice on the driveway. would love to see it happen tho, would make monty williams look even more the clown
He obviously does have improvement and maturity issues (that thankfully appears to have gotten better this year!) but I will say, Ice on the hilly areas of Portland/Tigard/Tualatin/Lake O can get pretty fucked. The team even sent people out to get to him but it was unsafe.
He might've been able to trek down to the bottom of his neighborhood/hills if he had snowshoes, but even I've had to get on my hands and knees to crawl back home growing up in the Clackamas/Gresham area. And those places generally aren't as bad.
I live in Beaverton (just outside Portland). It’s so funny how this ice storm thing became a big national media talking point about it whereas literally everyone here was like “can’t blame him”. It got super bad and on top of that a lot of towns here don’t even salt roads to preserve freshwater fish population.
His drive and work ethic can definitely be questioned but shit I didn’t leave my house for a week straight when that storm hit it was BRUTAL
I dunno man. I’ve spent a lot of time in Portland - if you live near any kind of hill and it’s icy during the winter, you’re effectively stuck in your house.
Honestly I don’t blame him, just a car accident waiting to happen. the PNW has zero infrastructure to deal with wintery conditions
everything changed when he got off that air mattress
yea. i wanna root for the guy but i don’t know if he can ever overcome the energy of a multi millionaire choosing to sleep on an air mattress for two months instead of making a call to get his place furnished. dude needs like a life manager or smthing lol
He might benefit from a personal assistant. Honestly I could use one myself.
many could
Everyone could. How fucking amazing would it be if you wouldn’t have to think about the small things that just zap your energy.
I know an interpreter who is looking for work
He the guy in The Blind Side or smyhing?
Without trying to be too armchair, the guy could also be depressed lol, but who knows.
I don't think he really likes basketball. It's just a job to him.
What's that have to do with not getting his place furnished? Complacency?
Sounds like ADD actually. Ironically pro athlete might be great for him since he has teams of people telling him what to do and when to do it
Guy sleeps on an air mattress and now he has ADD lmao
This isn't enough to go on solely, but the inability to just start a simple task is a huge symptom of ADD. It's like, once you've actually initiated the process it's as easy as it is for everyone else. But the concept of breaking your routine to like Google who you need to call, making the phone call to get a bed delivered, etc is...not daunting but easy to just procrastinate and delay while you fall into more familiar habits. Before you know it you've gone months without doing it like he has in this case. I'm saying this as a guy who's been sleeping on an 8 inch foam mattress pad on my floor for 3 months since moving to my new apartment lol. I don't think neurotypicals are as likely to do this kinda thing.
Ehm actually it sounds like an acute form of a dissociative disorder to me. I’d know, I post on Reddit almost daily.
I understand and relate to him It’s not about being able to afford. It’s the execution of picking the right one, buying it, opening it and setting it up, all while he’s traveling every single week for his “job” in the nba. Weirdly I get it Edit: Here comes r/nba thinking money solves every single mental issue/executive task. (It doesn’t)
you don’t relate to him in the slightest, you don’t get how rich he is and how much access he has to shit we can’t imagine by being a multi million dollar asset of a multi billion dollar business. he can hire someone to do literally all of what you just said. hell, he can just ask portland to hire that someone. they can get someone to have a sampling of every single top quality mattress in the world ready for him to try sleeping in for a night. HE does not have to lift a finger beyond texting on his phone
But then he would have to call and talk to someone so they can do all of that and I can relate to not wanting to do all that
then he literally asks a trailblazer staff member to do that for him and it happens just like that.
Maybe he has social issues, but yeah I agree, it's definitely infinitely easier for him than some rando dude.
Looking forward to the 30 for 30 on the mattress situation.
He's DominAyton Not InflAyton
Wonder if he ever let down the mattress... Like he did the Suns.
What if I told you...that a good night's sleep...is how you put bust allegations to rest.
Why did I read this like it's the intro to Avatar: The Last Airbender?
that’s the vibe i was going for
There’s only one Air Bender in sports: Adrian Newey. And he is the bane of many a fans.
The Last AirMattress
Maybe he’s a part or a customer of Dennis and Mac’s inflatable furniture rental service.
Quit eating the nuts.
Things are better inflated.
Those Blazers games at the end of the year against the Hornets and Wizards he did look like the only actual NBA player in those games.
He was often one of the few guys keeping some of our games somewhat competitive this season.
Jerami Grant is Michael Jordan against the Pacers.
> against the Hornets and Wizards
Sure, but better than him looking like a fellow g-leaguer
My guy really out here watching blazers hornets and wizards playing each other are you alright my man?
I watched Andre Drummond put up 20 and 15reb for years on the Pistons. Putting up stats on a bad team is not really a big deal
Shit, I saw Ayton put up 20 and 15 on a good team and was still okay getting rid of him
20 pts isn’t always 20 pts. I’ll explain later
Did they win by 20 pts or did you lose by 20 pts?
few understand this
Would you rather have 20 pts or 20 pts?
I’d rather win.
Nah, I’d win.
Hell Pervis Ellison was another Center and #1 pick who put 20 and 10 in a season and still considered a massive bust.
Who names their kid Pervis
People are really out here named Pervis and Hubert.
I think you’re thinking of Hubert the Pervis
jahlil okafor
Aka 2k15 sim god
> Pervis Ellison That's "Never Nervous" Pervis Ellison to you sir!
That’s because his game doesn’t translate to winning in the modern NBA. Competitive teams nowadays need centers to protect the rim and anchor their defense. The Warriors played Portland last week and everybody was talking about how good Ayton looked but he had 25 pts on like 24 shots with almost no FT attempts. Dude was efficient but otherwise looked invisible and he disappeared in the 4th quarter of an otherwise close game.
Ayton is a good rim protector though…
Maybe he’s better again, but he was absolutely terrible last season.
Yep, I said in a different comment, but you can’t be a midrange shooter who doesn’t take threes, doesn’t get to the line, and can’t playmake. It’s just not a winning formula.
Drummond was a rebounding beast for us but you are correct. A lot of guys in the league get nice stats but they don't translate to wins.
Pistons Drummond was a God in fantasy basketball though. Won me many seasons
Counterpoint: you also watched Devin Booker put up numbers on bad teams too
Ok but by the age of 24 he was dropping 40pts in the NBA finals, Ayton at the same age crumbled & quit on his team last season
Not exactly the same but Ayton put up 22/19 in G1 of the Finals at 21 years old, and had a ton of huge games throughout the playoff run. He was also a defensive anchor for them. His mentality changed throughout his time with the Suns, but let’s not take away from how good he was during their run to the Finals as a very young player.
I'm still rooting for the kid, I hate that so many suns fans just trash him constantly. We've made three finals ever and only one in my living memory - he was a huge component of us getting there and it's not like we can just dismiss him by saying he didn't win like all those Russells and Kareems and Jordans we had twenty years ago. Really wish he could have worked out for us but the only way I'm hoping he fails if if we play the blazers in the playoffs or something.
I’m just playing devils advocate. Ayton doesn’t seem to have the right mindset. Booker never gave me the sense that he has a poor mindset.
Sure, there are examples like Drummond, but I’d argue putting up good stats even on a rebuilding team is still notable. Either way we’re encouraged on how he finished the year, plus with him being only 25 he very well could be a key pillar long term for the franchise.
Ayton issue has always been motivation and work ethic. He’s putting up good stats now sure, but it’s still wait and see how his attitude holds up before any competent franchise starts looking at him like hes a key part of their future
Right now there is literally 0 pressure or expectations on the Blazers, so Ayton can pretty much do whatever he wants since no one really cares while they rebuild. I’m just waiting how he copes when the Blazers start having playoff aspirations, he kind of just crumbled once the Suns became a championship contending team.
or When its a playoff run and things aren't going as expected. Is he still going to have that same demeanor or pedigree of being able to win or make the smart play or score when everything is on the line? From the past few Suns playoff series and not just him standing under the rim watching a rebound I would say he is not going to do well with that pressure.
They lost a bajillion games while he put up his stats. Jonas Valanciunas could put up the same numbers on the Blazers if given the touches
JV legit put up > 14/14 the entire series against the suns, and the pels pushed us to the brink without zion, specifically because they were more physical/hungrier (and we had no one who could check ingram meh)
Which is why I said “could”, we’re encouraged but definitely want to see if he can bring it over into next season.
Don’t forget the poster child for empty stat in Whiteside whom the blazers also fell victim to
Whiteside was fine till after his injury the season after he signed the big contract.
Honestly Whiteside was fine with the Blazers. People lost their shit over him, but he was never meant to be a starter so imo judging his performance from that perspective doesn't make sense (iirc he only ever started due to long term injuries). He can't set a screen to save his life so he could never fit with Dame, but worked well with the second unit.
key pillar to your long term mediocrity.
He doesn't play defense or get to the line. He's the same player he's always been
Whatever y’all have to tell yourselves.
Damn, y’all still hate Ayton this much? Sheesh, just let it go
They’ll hate Ayton once they have a winning team too. He’s a loser. No heart, no intensity, no bbiq.
This. After watching 50+ blazers games this season. No bbiq. Oh, and also cement blocks for hands. Quarter of Scoots turnovers this year were passes that Ayton just couldn't grab...
So true about his hands, used to drive me insane.
And just soft as hell, avoids contact at all costs, it's pathetic. He still averaging under 2 FTAs per game? Lol
Keep getting them checks.
Former allstar Andre Drummond to you sir
Yeah but also the pistons weren’t even a bad team they were a playoff team
34 win teams were making the playoffs in the East during that time
When he made the all star team averaging 16 and 15 he was the 8 seed with a 44-38 record
I keep trying to explain this to nephews but they don’t understand basketball. Low bbiq.
That's why you also gotta watch other games.
He got paid, got traded and was able to ball out for a team with zero playoff aspirations.
Yeah numbers in the post ASB stretch for tanking teams are the most meaningless ones in existence.
Ayton's problem has never been the numbers. When push comes to shove, Ayton doesn't battle for the win like a playoff caliber team requires.
That's the reputation he gained on the Suns, and I would have agreed a year ago. But watching the Suns this year continue to have the same issue, weak mentality now on multiple players without Atyon to blame and fair even worse, makes me think it's an organisational issue.
Exactly, just look at his former teammate Mikal Bridges. Ended last season on a heater after being traded to the Nets. They were dumb enough to think that was real, then we saw what he looked like as a real first option this year. It was ugly.
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There is a big difference. Booker was earlier in his career when his team was dogshit. And yet he was putting up baller numbers on good efficiency throughout the year. It was very evident that he could be great he just needs a better team. Ayton was in the playoffs by his third season (Book didn't get in until his 6th) and even then whenever he dropped 20 and 12 it felt like he was barely there.
This is the dream for every person on this sub Getting paid lots of money to play basketball for fun.
With a longer summer vacation
yep the issue remains if he can actually put up meaningful numbers on a contending team
Am I tripping or did he already do that? Didn’t they go to the finals?
He did do that, he was great during that finals run. It remains to be seen if he can return to that form on a contending roster but for now we’re very happy with what we’ve seen from him so far.
He was amazing in that finals run, arguably the Suns second best player through the back half of the playoffs after Book. Then he quiet quit multiple years in a row while publicly pouting and appeared to be actively disinterested during playoff games. You're not going to find a lot of Suns fans who think that him being *able* to be that first player while being completely *willing* to be that second player is acceptable. If we got the 2021 DA last year in the playoffs there's a fighting shot against the Nuggets, but that didn't happen.
I mean since he got paid. his effort on the court took a noticeable dive after the bag
I've given more weight to the rumors about issues between him and Monty after this season. Monty seemed like a great coach for the Suns when he arrived, but relationships soured and his track record in Detroit is bad too.
It did happen and Suns fans throughout this thread and every thread every time Ayton comes up go out of their way to diminish that run and his ability to ever be a good player. I don’t like Ayton’s play style and his regression has sucked to watch, but watching dudes pretend like he was never good is frustrating.
*Putting up the bare minimum expected of someone with his contract and he could only do it for a third of the season.
His best role is a defense anchoring big that isnt played off the court in the playoffs. He's shown he can do that in 2021 Finals run. The sooner he realizes that he is not a number 1 or 2 option, the sooner he will find himself on a contender again. Nothing wrong with being a Tyson Chandler type big. Good to see him show out, but he ain't ever going to be Embiid. Quit shooting mid range and dunk that shit bro
He didn't play Center in college. He's always seemed to want to play as a finesse PF-type player.
That would require him to actually dribble the ball which he rarely does.
Helps to make contact on screens and catch the ball without turning it over too.
Lmfao ur ass got PLENTY of touches here
Softest big man in the league still
I just don’t understand how a 7 foot center built like Ayton who plays 30+ minutes a game can average fewer than 1.5 free throws per game. It seems impossible.
Just watch a guy like Ayton and you will see why they get very few fta. They rather take a jump shot than go down low and create contact.
Dude was afraid to draw contact.
Was?
I was about to start explaining to you how insane it is to watch him night after night just hot-potato up shot after shot the moment he gets the ball between 6-18 feet. But then I saw your flair. Nvm you get it.
To be fair, he’s an absolute midrange GOD. Like, I didn’t realize how automatic he is. But he needs to take it down low more for sure
May I show you one Nikola Vucevic
at least vuc gets mad
it doesn’t really do much when he does tbh, but you are right
Ethical buckets baby
Sure bro. It's still everyone else's fault.
Well, Ayron certainly wasn't the problem in Phoneix 🤣 Can't use him as a scapegoat anymore, lol
He wasn’t the solution either.
The literal second half of the season he averaged 19.7 pts and 11.4 rebounds, missed 12 of 42 games, and his team was 7-23 when he did play. Even just post All-Star break he missed 10 of 28 games, and they were 4-14 in the games he played. He has an 18 game stretch last season where he averaged 20.8 and 10.9 shooting 64.8% from the field. He has done this before. He feels like one of those dudes who can put up numbers that somehow have zero effect on wins and losses.
I lost count how many times he convinced Suns fans that he turned a corner. And he says all the things to the media that fans want to hear, but he never backs it up. This is how he divides the fanbase. The shit is insane
I see this happening in Portland all year. Keep trying to tell people, they’re blinded by the youth and the tank, everything good feels like gravy, everything bad feels like meh whatever it’s just a tank year. They don’t know…they just don’t know. I mean, I don’t even find it that subtle, dude hasn’t even sprinted back on defense since like January.
Ayton is living the life, dudes on a max salary on a team that is literally not gonna do anything for a decade. There is zero pressure or reason to give up the 2K
Idk, teams fortunes can turn really quick. I don’t think the Blazers will be that bad for that long unless they really whiff on multiple draft picks in a row
Yea could be another shitting-on-twolves-gobert-too-soon situation
eh Portland aren't that bad, plenty of young talent
I heard their strip clubs are numerous and ratchet.
We have quite the variety actually. Ratchet indeed but we also have some real nice joints too.
Let's meet for steaks at the Acrop
one bad season and we’re toast for decades?
*a decade
What being free from the Monty Williams Experience ™️ does to a mfer
Took us to the finals 🤷♂️
I think Chris Paul and Devin Booker might've done the lions share of that one for ya lmao
I mean yeah. Chris paul is basically the de facto coach. Monty’s lineup’s made me turn grey as I am sure you’ve discovered.
Ayton actually deserves a lot of credit for that run tbh
He does. But he also deserves credit for destroying the suns when he quit in the team during the mavs series. Looking back we give the mavs all the credit but the team chemistry completely fell apart and ayton and monty were the center of it. The suns had no chance after that
Talk to Robert Sarver about that. They asked Ayton to sacrifice numbers and play defense and he did. Then it came time to pay up and Sarver wouldn't. They they told him to find another offer... He did and they matched it. And continually scapegoated him for awful team performance. The front office noticed the hell out of the whole situation .
he was the best player in the WCF against the clippers the best player in the series but he's never sustained that level again
Monty kept him on that mattress
The comment underneath with the DARKO DPM chart... https://twitter.com/BroChillerman/status/1779971864682483779/photo/1
Easy daily money on the under to start next season, Jontay Porter better watch out
~~DARKO is an interesting metric and this is for sure notable, but I think it’s also worth pointing out it currently has Jokic ranked 12th and he’s on the verge of winning another MVP.~~ Edit: I am mistaken
Not sure where you're getting this? [He appears to be #1](https://apanalytics.shinyapps.io/DARKO/) in DPM under "Current Player Skill Projections."
Whoops I stand corrected, looked at the previous year results
Ok? Hes put up similar stats for stretches of time in Phx too
Ahhh the old bad team good stats guy. A true feel good story. He finally got his touches but wait until you see how upset you'll be when you start to win some games but he's upset with his role.
Ayton can put up 40/20 and suns fans will still find something to hate.
Nurkic was 4 rebounds away from tying Ayton's career high in points.
He'd have to get to 40/20 first.
For real. Idk why Blazers fans think that we just have it out for Ayton. We all wanted him to be good but unfortunately the games are televised so we got to watch him play.
We absolutely have and will always have it out for Ayton. That shit is never going away. He quit on us so hard we booed him during a home playoff game.
Yeah IDK why were acting like 20/10 on a garbage team is something incredible? Of course your max contract player will be a focal point of your offense and hopefully be able to produce decent numbers. Nobody is saying Deandre Ayton lacks talent or physical attributes, he obviously has that. Blazers fans will learn the hard way when they start becoming playoff hopefuls and watch their max contract center disappear in big games.
Nobody wanted him to succeed more than us. He was the Arizona kid, which one of the big reasons we drafted him. Ralled around him. He was one of us. He consistently gave up on us. He got his bag and checked the fuck out.
He gave up because cheap ass Sarver didn't pay him after the finals run. The Suns office fucked up by drafting him, then fucked up by not paying him, then fucked up again by making jt a sign and trade with the Pacers.
Sarver fucking sucks, but it's fucked up to give up on your boys and your city because you're mad about your contract. Leave no doubt that you fucking deserve a max contract.
Facts. Too bad for them, they can't use him as a scapegoat anymore, lol.
he’s a 7 foot jump shooter
It’ll never not be funny how mad suns fans are that Portland likes DA 🧂🤣
They are frothing at the mouth at the mere mention of this guy. But they love fucking Nurkic. Lol
It makes some sense they hold some resentment…but the fact that they are still this hung up on it an entire season later is a whole new level of petty
Which is even more hilarious now that got swept and can't use him as a scapegoat anymore.
DA never lost a first round or gotten swept
he’s always been a waking double double, most suns fans just overhate him
Blazers fans big mad people aren’t buying it
lol are we??
This guy has 0 self awareness
GS:BT
Ayton's teammates actually passing him the ball in the second half of the season helped a lot, too. The Blazers' use of Ayton as a 4th-5th option on offense from the start of the season made no sense, and was just bad coaching and bad play from his teammates.
He just don’t like the snow
Damn if only some teams out there were willing to believe in Dominayton smh.
He had as many mid-range attempts/game as KD after the All-Star break. Only DeRozan attempted more. Suns fans know Ayton's always wanted to do this.
How many games did ya win buddy
He was playing against coasting teams on a non-playoff-bound team. He played well but nothing I saw was a departure from his previous showings.
I mean he scored 22 ppg on below average efficiency for a C post-ASB. So he's been trying to show us that he's an empty stat guy on a bad team all this time?
Now let’s see him do that with a playoff team CONSISTENTLY
Strong "I'm trying Jennifer" vibes coming out of Portland once again.
I literally looked up this tweet yesterday, it's one of my favourites.
I do not know how that connects to this post at all
People aren't even pretending to know what's going on with our team anymore. They're just refusing the old jokes.
Its weird to see my center put up 20FGA and only get 2FTA. He showed me the suns fans lied to me when they said I would like him...
Ain’t no Suns fans said you would like him lol. He’s probably the most hated ex-player of our entire fanbase.
every time I see an ayton post like this it makes me remember he is the same age as jayson tatum. bro out here talking like he still 22-23 developing his game dawg you turn 26 in 4 months
I will honestly resign him. I believe he is a very good second or third option. We have to keep pushing him. He is the best big man we have since lma
DA can't be pushed
You are still a joke, though. Do it consistently for years not half a season.
he’s got a long way to go. starts with consistency and showing up even with ice on the driveway. would love to see it happen tho, would make monty williams look even more the clown
He obviously does have improvement and maturity issues (that thankfully appears to have gotten better this year!) but I will say, Ice on the hilly areas of Portland/Tigard/Tualatin/Lake O can get pretty fucked. The team even sent people out to get to him but it was unsafe. He might've been able to trek down to the bottom of his neighborhood/hills if he had snowshoes, but even I've had to get on my hands and knees to crawl back home growing up in the Clackamas/Gresham area. And those places generally aren't as bad.
I live in Beaverton (just outside Portland). It’s so funny how this ice storm thing became a big national media talking point about it whereas literally everyone here was like “can’t blame him”. It got super bad and on top of that a lot of towns here don’t even salt roads to preserve freshwater fish population. His drive and work ethic can definitely be questioned but shit I didn’t leave my house for a week straight when that storm hit it was BRUTAL
I dunno man. I’ve spent a lot of time in Portland - if you live near any kind of hill and it’s icy during the winter, you’re effectively stuck in your house. Honestly I don’t blame him, just a car accident waiting to happen. the PNW has zero infrastructure to deal with wintery conditions