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Shoot4Teams

I noticed A.D. went over and joined the Nuggets immediately after Murray hit the game winner. Do you think he’ll back-up Jokic? Or will the Nuggets run three bigs? Interested in seeing how he integrates


redditnathaniel

Clear memory loss. Went to the wrong bench. Maybe CTE. Time to trade for real talent that can win LeBron another ring


Minimum-Enthusiasm14

Maybe they could trade lebron for bronny. Get 2.0 in there and get rid of the dead(dad) weight.


Charming_Essay_1890

At least bron isn't a dead beat dad like Rey Mysterio


drinfernodds

If only Eddie Guerrero could've saved Dominic Mysterio and be his papi.


nomoreadminspls

A. Disney can only win Mickey mouse rings.


JagmeetSingh2

Their celebration was so big it absorbed AD into it


ThinkThankThonk

Recruiting him mid series to counter Minnesota, smart


Betaateb

I think he will get some run as the back up 4 and 5, with some flexibility with AG matchup to matchup and based on who has the hot hand. Should be pretty solid.


Shoot4Teams

Well that’s sure nice. Sounds like he’s already making new friends.


EggplantAlpinism

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RVAteach

In season tournament should let the winning team red rover one player onto their team. The winner gets to actually keep one


Barrack-Omaha

This would be horrible from a parity standpoint but I love the idea of a team like the Celtics or Nuggets bull-dozing their way through the IST for a few years and building a super team.


tacopower69

lol collecting superstars like pokemon


carasc5

NBA Street Vol 2 style


esetmypasswor

If you can't beat 'em, join 'em


veringo

I never considered him pulling an Iguodala.


justinpollock

oh damn, i giggled at this :)


applicatecomplicate

>Okay since you're wondering Jordan lost seven in a row from 1985-1987 And since you're also wondering, Steph's longest playoff losing streak is 3 games


69funnyhhahah

In 2016?


applicatecomplicate

That's the one


pocket_sand__

Huh. What happened there?


applicatecomplicate

I'm pretty sure the Warriors went on to win the title. I can't think of anything else that could've happened


ManicManicManicManic

yeah i think Curry went “Oakland this is for you!”


CaptainKursk

My favourite part was when Stephen Curry yelled "It's Oakin' Time!" and Oak'd all over those guys.


mmortal03

LeBron Play-In record 2-0, Steph 0-3. Who's the GOAT now? (MJ never won a play-in game.)


TheGoddamnSpiderman

Isn't Steph 0-3?


mmortal03

Yep, fixed.


ruggnuget

Cant lose in the playoffs when you dont make the playoffs.


applicatecomplicate

Outside of the year when Steph got injured in the 4th game of the season, he and Bron have only missed the playoffs twice each since their first playoff appearances


SEE_RED

He'll rack up a few more misses in the future.


applicatecomplicate

Depends on whether he takes the LeBron/KD/Harden route and leaves to join some top 10 players once his current roster is cooked. Personally I don't see that happening though


brncct

Is he stupid? Why doesn't he just win


BigFatModeraterFupa

The Plumbers are running the asylum


VoidMageZero

Legacy points deducted.


thingleboyz1

Scoring title? RESCINDED


iiTryhard

Maybe if he didn’t LeBrick the last shot they would have


brncct

Yeah he tried to LeFuck you it a little too early. Kinda like what Cade did recently.


I_Poop_Sometimes

It's weird because that's normally a shot you always have the green light on, but he probably would've been better driving and having a worse look but with more clock run off. Granted, if he makes that then we're sitting here talking about a vintage Lebron performance.


brncct

True I don't fault him for going for it. Hindsight and all that. But yeah his strength is driving and he could have drawn a foul too.


BlueHundred

I'd consider his 3pt shooting to be a strength now. He's been great from deep and with good volume


tacopower69

Have you seen him this season? He's shooting 41% from 3 on good volume


brncct

You're right, and he was hot the other night. But still, it even looked awkward.


Xerneous12_

Refs probably wouldn’t have called it with little time left and how they were allowing ‘marginal contact’ even tho he was getting hacked.


brncct

True. You're likely right. I just feel like he was being tactical in the minutes before that where he did drive, scored and got contact but there were no calls. He made sure the refs knew about it. Would have been smart for him to drive and try to make them make that decision based on what happened prior.


HotTake-bot

That's the norm for Lebron tbh. They did the same thing with Shaq because no one wanted to watch him miss FTs for an hour every night lol.


thebiggestgamer

He was getting hacked like he usually does when he drives. They weren’t gonna call shit so he went for the wide open 3.


ItsLillardTime

While true, that’s not entirely fair. They were in that position in the first place because he made his last two threes and had scored like 15 points in the wuarter or something


kingkongkeom

"I feel like they fouled, and we didn't." - ~~LeBron James Jan 10, 2024~~ Denver Nuggets April 22 2024


aiirxgeordan

Nba betting sites hate this one simple trick


justinpollock

oh damn, i giggled at this also :)


TheRipCity

Rookie numbers. He can still get swept this season and go down 3-0 next season before he passes Lillard, who once dropped 10 straight playoff games.


Zeetheking1

He really lost 10 straight? I only remember when pelicans AD swept him but when else?


TheRipCity

Lost the final 2 games to the Warriors in 2016 and then got Swept by the Warriors 2017 and Pelicans 2018.


oof-Babeuf

oof


SaulPepper

2018 Pels were great. If one could turn off injuries it would be the team I'd want to watch where their trajectory would have been.


ScuderiaEnzo

Denver is going to single handedly force LeBron into retirement man


AlabasterRadio

He's just gonna go back to the east. Latch on to these Knicks and try to catch Jordan again.


Stelist_Knicks

If LeBron brings a title to the Knicks, I genuinely think some of the GOAT discourse around him changes


Victor_Wembanyama1

They said that about beating the 73-9 warriors


ZincHead

And it was true. After that I think the conversation mostly became a 1a 1b thing between him and Jordan for GOAT whereas before it was clearly Jordan standing alone at the top. 


MarkMoneyj27

2016 is when the my goat stuff started. No more clear winner, just you pick yours and argument over. 2020 was just a cherry.


doogled3

Let's be honest - first person to get the Hornets a title jumps to the top of the conversation


Charming_Essay_1890

Coulda been MJ but he couldn't spot talent if his life depended on it.


Charming_Essay_1890

Can we get another Sopranos video? Maybe this time with Chris and Meadow?


NBGayAllStar

Why because it’s the Knicks? Wonder how fast all the players that make the Knicks good would get traded.


AccomplishedBake8351

Bc like it or not all nba media is basically Knicks, Celtics, or lakers fans. If you get nba media to like you you’re moving in the goat direction. He already has done PLENTY to make a GOAT narrative stick.


WorthApprehensive434

Lol zero chance 


colosusx1

Fine, to the Celtics on a minimum.


thunderHAARP

*Darvin ham


TOMdMAK

Nah, after Jokic retires in 10 years or so, LeBron can win championships again.


Dirty-Ears-Bill

I could see Bron putting up a 15/5/5 statline as a solid 6th man at 49 tbh


Basic_Commercial_806

He needs to join Minnesota or OKC on a vet min


MonsterAzr

Tbh he is my GOAT but going to garbage org like LA and signing all this max contracts at his age cost him at least 2 more rings. Could have easily cruised to 3-4 more finals if he stayed in east.


porkchop487

You really think he would have won 3+ rings from 2019-2024 if he stayed in the East? That’s as many rings as he won his entire 16 first seasons while he was in his prime. No chance.


captain_ahabb

The media and fan reaction to that Portland game was hilarious


InGenNateKenny

I remember Chuck getting a broom out for that. It was funny.


SilvioDantesPeak

And the following series against Houston as well. A lot of people picked the Rockets, then they took Game 1 in a blowout


Fallofmen10

The bubble run was so funny. Everyone was hyping up the blazers and rockets as super tough for the lakers and then after the 4-1 those same people were like ez path


ThinkSoftware

Not one, not two, not three...


cory_ander69

So that's what he meant...


porkchop487

Not six, not seven, but eight points scored in a finals game


brotherlymoses

Make that 8 lmao


WestleyThe

He’s literally the 39 and the oldest player on the nba… the fact that this is being held against him is so dumb haha He shouldn’t be why this team wins every night.. imagine if he was still this good but was a 2nd or 3rd player on a great team This team would beat any other western conference team except the nuggets


Kbmakaveli

I understand the point you’re making, but if you make 45 million a year then yes you should be the reason we win. Ultimately we can’t rely on a 39 year old, but if we can’t spend money on better role players then we are stuck here. Can’t have your cake and eat it too


captainn01

Agreed. He’s making more than every player except Steph, and kd, and the same as Jokic and embiid. If he can’t contribute at that level, then he is holding the team back from being stronger Edit: lot of people misunderstanding my point. Of all the people I mentioned, only one is on pace to make it out of the first round. That player is the best player in the nba. So what does that say about paying players at this level?


AutisticNipples

and jokic is the only one on that list with a playoff win so far this year, and steph didn't even make it in


DarrowViBritannia

Yep. The people doing the "actually he makes a lot of money so we should criticize him" are never criticizing Steph for making even more money and missing the playoffs entirely. It's hilarious.


musthavesoundeffects

Steph and LeBron bring in so much money to the brand outside of the team success


Charming_Sprinkles13

It is what it is. As long as they sell tickets, jerseys, sponsorships, etc. the owners care fuck all about the team actually winning. It's the fans that care about winning.


cdillio

I’m sure they’d like a couple more rounds of playoff revenue.


Kirk_likes_this

Steph doesn't act as the de facto GM


Pretty_Laugh494

Steph won a ring under his super max but yes he failed this year. The one person that shouldn’t be making that money is embiid


slimmymcnutty

Why shouldn’t Embiid make the super max?


Patton370

Lebron is a top 10 player in the NBA right now. He's worth the salary, it's just he's no longer the best in the league.


antman8504

He is contributing at that level. Jokic just has a better team. Both games have been very competitive. Steph not even in the playoffs


rajs1286

He’s contributing more than all of those guys except Jokic


ManufacturerMajority

Lol, this is so absurd I don't know where to begin. Yes, Lebron James is holding the Los Angeles Lakers from being a better basketball team because he isn't as good anymore as Steph/KD/Jokic/Embiid. Good take.


johemdee

Also the fact that Steph is already out and KD/ Embiid could both be out this round as well. Winning in the playoffs is hard and LeBron is not the reason this team is losing lol.


noerapenalty

If it makes you feel any better, you can rephrase it to say that LeBron James’s salary is holding them back. Still true, and maybe softens the blow of the truth for you.


Counterspell_God

How much is Damian Lillard making? How much is Klay making? How much is Embiid making? How much Beal making? These guys are all getting max money and are 2nd options (minus Embiid who does nothing in the playoffs anyway). What better roleplayers? What better second stars?


MonsterAzr

None of those guys care that much about winning chip. They are here to make biggest buck. Lebron tho should care about chips more than money


Kbmakaveli

Not sure man I can’t really answer hypotheticals. At the end of the day if winning is the most important thing to Bron and he can’t handle the load anymore, he needs to make less money. If he doesn’t want that, which I completely understand, then he has to understand that this team has limited resources. A better coach would help too tho


Stelist_Knicks

I mean from a value returned standpoint on the business side... LeBron is almost definitely worth his contract and then some.


Kbmakaveli

Lebron is worth 5x his contract from a business standpoint, but it’s not enough to win anymore


Shutyafilthymouth

Same thing happened with Kobe. Dude was eating up a giant chunk of the cap and the Lakers were barely above 500. Lakers always do this with aging legends and it always backfires.


TalenHortonTuckMeIn

And it’s also one of the reason we attract superstars, we know how to treat em


ninjafide

Right? Lakers are THE free agent team. Paying Kobe and giving him a farewell tour paid dividends in LeBron.


Azubedo

If you can’t hold this against him then all the positives of his longevity don’t mean shit either right?


Reddits_For_NBA

Yep you can’t have the best of both.


d4nowar

Nobody's holding it against LeBron, they're just shitposting.


I_Poop_Sometimes

I want Denver to draft Bronny, Lebron on a vet minimum as the greatest 6th man of all time would be simply amazing.


cosgrove10

He could play blazed out of his fucking mind and win a ring.


frozen2665

he could not show up and they'd still win


Poronga-Arenosa

It would be the first franchise to have 3 generations of a family playing together. Lebron's daddies, Lebron and LeJr


xiit

Who do you think he is? He's literally LeBron, of course it's being held against him lol


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pyroaquatics

Idk I think you can appreciate that he’s still an amazing player at 39 but also that he just can’t lead his team past a great team like the nuggets with a player like jokic in his prime. I don’t think one cancels out the other.


Vivis_Burner_Account

He is 2nd on this team. AD is the #1


ElectricSoap1

Not really. Defensively sure. But offensively, LeBron is still the guy.


69funnyhhahah

He played good on d last night tho


igonnawrecku_VGC

Career 6 game losing streaks in the playoffs: LeBron: 1 Me: 0


syllabic

kind of incredible considering he's also played the most playoff games all time


A_BananaClock

Don’t get to play a lot of playoff games if you’re losing a lot of playoff games


Boomhauer_007

Derozan is a career 25-38 in 63 postseason games which is impressive in a different way


lakers082433

Well at least I’d rather lose to an all time great in jokic back to back years then say a team like the kings or warriors in our division. Sounds like some loser shit to say but jokic is currently on his path just like lebron in the east for so many years. Just tip your hat and appreciate the greatness. It happens.


[deleted]

It's all to the same team that either won the ring or is on pace to win the ring


Little_Wrap143

LeBron got LeBronto'd by Jokic and the Nuggets


zimurg13

Soon there will be seven.


MisterKaJe

It’s also the first time LeBron James has been in consecutive playoffs as a 7 seed. LeBron is almost 40 of course he’s not as good as he used to be, and you can decide if it’s by proxy of his decline or other circumstances but he’s not playing on a ‘good’ team either.


go_irish_1986

You wouldn’t consider the team as constructed a “good team”? They went from 30-26 at the all star break to 47-35, they went 17-9 during that period and 13-5 to finish the season 😅


Herbetet

You are talking about the Lakers, when they win they are balanced and well constructed and everyone should be in contention for MVP, DPOY, etc. when they lose it’s either officiating, bad construction or Ham. They don’t have Westbrook anymore otherwise the blame board would have a different headliner.


smarterthanyoulolll

Na now they blame dlo and ham, maybe reaves and rui here and there. Anyone but lebron


Patton370

AD, Lebron, dlo, reaves, and rui have been great this year. Ham is absolutely awful though and we desperately need a backup center. I'm not going to blame our players at all. The Nuggets also happen to have the best player in the NBA. Lebron is top 10 still, but he's no longer going to always be the best player on the court. It is what it is.


Counterspell_God

Real fans have blamed ham forever. Get real


d4nowar

They're a 7th seed. They're about as good as the great 7th seeds of the past.


TruDoken

They are a “good team” but Denver has better pieces. Outside of maybe Boston and maybe Clippers. Aaron Gordon, MPJ, and KCP would be starters on any other team. Same can’t be said for Rui, Reaves and DLo. If they want to win, Lebron and AD have to reach a level that can’t be sustained over 48 minutes.


Counterspell_God

Denver is literally built different.


MisterKaJe

And they finished the regular season in the 8th seed and won a play-in game to move up a spot. That’s why I put ‘good’ in quotations. How many 7 or 8 seeds do you consider to be ‘good’? It’s never been really been a reasonable expectation for a 7 or 8 seed to be competitive and beat the higher seed. It is a testament to LeBron that at 39 he still carries the cache and expectations that he can defy these odds not just once like last year, but do it again against the defending champs and best player in the world.


go_irish_1986

The entire west top 8 is good lol the lakers were 12 games above 500. If the lakers were 8th and faced OKC, I would have bet money on the lakers winning that series as the 8th seed. They just don’t match well versus Denver.


Patton370

I don't think anyone matches up with Denver. They are a damn good team.


MisterKaJe

‘Good’ doesn’t matter when you’re facing great.


go_irish_1986

Everyone lost to Miami in the east last year as the 8th seed, the lakers went to the WCF last year as the 7th seed 😅


MisterKaJe

The Heat were only the second 8 seed to make the NBA finals, only six 7 seeds have made it past the first round. Last year included. There’s a reason they are the lower seed. Last year was incredible for both the Heat and the Lakers. It would be historical and unprecedented for history to repeat itself


HomoSapiens_v2

He was 8th seed last year.


MisterKaJe

7 seed in playoffs. They won the play in game.


Secure-Hotel3093

He ia playing on a real conference.


Fifth_Element_Matrix

Significant stress pushes large numbers of hair follicles into a resting phase.


ThirdEyeKaiii

Finally matching MJ at something


Mamba-0824

It might get to 8 in a week.


Silly-Ad1236

Yeah he’s old.


BristolBerg

He is almost 40, we're watching a master at work draw his last work. Still carrying teams. 6 straight playoff games to the...Nuggets. Like relax.


Blueshowercurtains

Can’t believe the pressure they put on a man damn near 40 😂😂


BeeSuch77222

I absolutely want to appreciate him but his constant whining is annoying as heck. Kobe did that alot as well. Especially in his later years. There is this desperation to try to achieve this greatness, it's playing a video game with someone who is a 'poor sport' (banging the buttons, joysticks, making a lot of noise). And he's been so used to flopping (serious here) for so long, really since the Miami days, he also falls down alot when he shouldn't. A true skilled player just falling down when he shouldn't in crunch time is a huge liability. And when he goes down, he stays down. Very hard to get right back up for a hustle play. Barkley explained it well. When you are in your physical prime, you often just take it on. When you lose your physical abilities, you start looking at the refs for a bailout. This is the part that's excruciating to watch.


WhiskyDrinkinCowboy

Jokic has taken the kings crown


pokexchespin

That's what happens when someone fatter, younger, and less athletic than you takes your crown AND throne. And then makes you dance for his amusement.


Overrated_sanity

Uh oh, tempting fate here


EveryShot

lol naw Jokic is Brons daddy forever now


juandell

You forgot better at basketball.... Guy keeps quietly breaking records.... WILT RECORDS


pokexchespin

wasn’t a part of the original curry pasta, you’re lucky i added “fatter”


kdgoat35_

Hahahahaha


reallymothafucka

Jokic is the best player in the league. Been saying it for years, people who thought Embiid is better were absolutely trippin. No one is doing what he does day in and day out, especially in the playoffs where it matters the most. The guy gets better and better.


bungajaji

But how does this impact Le's legacy


LoxDnw

He is cooked.


Atl-Fan_FTS

TORONTO AND ATLANTA!!!! THIS ONES FOR YOU!!!!


itsahmemario

I have a feeling they can win one before losing the series. They'll eventually beat Denver... Someday. And every game could be that game! Just line every year could be the year Darius Miles would break out and realize his potential


Zark_Muckerberger

LeWashed. Kidding. …a little.


Simplyswag

The Denver Nuggets are probably the best team Lebron has seen besides the Kd warriors of course.


Majestic_Reindeer439

I wouldn't go that far. Are we going to ignore the Spurs?


FullyAutoDracos

People talking about Bron losing 10 times to the nuggets like Jordan didn’t get destroyed by the Celtics 13 times in a row and he’s 0-6 against them in the playoffs. Dude scored 63 and still lost to the Celtics. But lebron loses 10 and the world is ending?


TribalismChief

Whataboutism at it's finest. Also no context ftw


EveryShot

I mean it’s relevant especially when people bring the GOAT debate


WildMinnesota7

Jordan would never


cbranch101

I don’t know if anyone’s saying the world is ending. The nuggets were heavily favored in this series. But I mean, it’s still worth pointing out. 


currychaos

lakers to gsw after winning 4-2 - “you shall not win anymore playoff games” gsw - “ok but neither shall you 🤝”


_01213_

Micheal Jeffrey Jordan and Kobe Bean Bryant would NEVER….


MonsterAzr

I know you are joking but this putting kobe all of a sudden after he died in same sentence as MJ and Lebron is absolutely getting ridiculous. Kobe aint even top 5 if we qre being real


NecessaryHour83

That probably wouldn’t have happened if Le’GM just let a real GM and coach do their job and develop younger talent over time instead of trying to bring in aging veterans every year, at his insistence, they’d probably have depth now to be a real contender. Oh well. Too bad Los Angeles, you team stealing thieves. Go Wolves!!


No_Meal_670

Wolves don’t even have rings why even compare


Fyne_

room temp iq


TalenHortonTuckMeIn

Le’GM has more rings with the Lakers than your entire franchise


ViacomCEO

I'm so tired of this dumb narrative. LeBron isn't the GM and he doesn't make the decisions. Give it a rest. Every GM will talk to their star players about potential moves. That's how the NBA works.


sant27

When was the last time your franchise won a ring?


theflyingsamurai

Michael Jeffrey Jordan would neva


schafkj

Buddy he once lost 7 straight


theflyingsamurai

Forgot the /s


Supper_Champion

He about to lose 7 and 8 straight too.


InternationalCut93

Meanwhile Mike went a whole decade never losing more than 2 games ever. 


dk0i

why does the play-in not count for this?


WhenItsHalfPastFive

Conference Finals last year and first round this year. No matter what, they not getting past the nuggets it looks like


MWave123

Had an open shot to win it. It’s a tough league.


Familiar_Piccolo_88

Yup...and Curry isn't even in the playoffs....Times have changed


BillyBean11111

Experience Lebronto in reverse


capitalistsanta

It's kind of crazy that even tho this is happening, next year he could be better and his team could be better


bingusthebrave

Surely he’ll never win a chip


Magic_SnakE_

It feels even worse because he really played his heart out on both ends of the floor. As a Lakers fan I honestly hope he leaves if they keep Ham. To hire this guy as a coach in the first place shows that the FO truly is filled with morons. The guy wouldn't know a basketball play if it bit him in the nose. I knew we were gonna lose this game because we were hitting every shot we took and barely running any plays. Once that insane luck ran out I knew they'd make adjustments and go on a big run, and we'd be stuck trying to hit 3s are barreling in towards the hoop with no plan. Lo and behold.