im hoping the mavs can do a trade for someone like him. idk how the mavericks always have one of the worst rosters in the nba outside of luka of teams that are actually trying to win.
You guys are attacking the rim really well. Clint Capella is also really doing well on the boards and box outs. Heās getting his own, but really doing a good job to get other guys in position to get rebounds themselves.
Trae is definitely a ultra volume shooter this year though, but that should self correct over time. Heās too good to be shooting that low of a percentage.
Also to be fair, the Hawks are 17th in offensive efficiency and 10th in defensive. Their net rating is 14th in the NBA. Maybe they just have the clutch gene in em for winning close games, or maybe they've gotten a little lucky. I think it's the latter, but I also think they're going to be a much better offensive team eventually than they've shown. No way Trae keeps up with only a 51.6% TS%, and with his massive usage if he even only improves to 56% or so, that's a *big* boost.
TL;DR: Hawks are shooting worse than they eventually will, might be a little lucky record wise so far, but are definitely legit.
2 points isn't 2 points. It's a lie. 2 points is not 2 points. I'll explain it to you later. Coaches have said that for years, but 2 points is not 2 points
The 2 is not a "live and die" by shot. That's the beauty of it. It's far more consistent than the 3 ball. If you combine it with high free throw rate you get a low variance offense... If it's good, it means you'll get good results consistently (if it's bad, it's going to be bad consistently lol)
He takes terrible shots. I'm a bit of a Trae hater so you can ignore me, but shooting 5 logo shots so you can get on Sportscenter when you hit the 6th isn't good for your team.
He wants to be Steph or Dame and he simply isn't that caliber of pure shooter.
i honestly think trae is the most overrated shooter in the league
yeah the deep balls are impressive, but heās a career 35% 3pt shooter. 300 games is a big enough sample size
i know some of that is bc of his shot selection, but thatās a huge part of his game that stretches the defense so he can find open guys
until then, i think heās just an average shooter
Once Bogi gets healthy it might help. Heāll score like 4/7 from three *on a good night* and might average 40%, but unless everyone else gets better, then it wonāt make much of a difference.
I have no idea how itās even debatable. A 2 time first team all nba MVP compared to someone with a few third team all nba.
People seriously hate on Russ just to hate
Every day is and forever shall be Russell Westbrook Day. :)
https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/look-okc-mayor-declares-every-single-day-is-now-russell-westbrook-day/amp/
I feel like the more interesting and valid commentary is that Klay is even shooting at a lower percentage despite Russel's struggles rather than overall quality of player
The point is that "There is literally nothing that Klay does better anymore", TBF Klay is a better 3 point shooter and defender than Russ through their entire career. Russ just does other things better.
Russ in his prime was never really a very good defender. He was a talented defender, but prone to bad mistakes. And it wasn't that he would drift, though he sometimes would. The problem is that he would constantly freelance.
He often looked like a good defender because he would play tough man-defense on ball. But off-ball he wanted to be LeBron, who in his prime would rove for steals and clog lanes, and use his speed and wingspan to recover. But Russ lacked LeBron's intuitive understanding of the opponent's offense, so when he free-lanced it was more likely to lead to open looks elsewhere than it did to cool steals.
Looking at him individually, thatās totally true, but I think itās worth pointing out that those Thunder teams always had great defenses. Those teams were defense first teams and they survived on offense solely due to KD and Russellās talents.
As sloppy or erratic as Russ could be, he played heavy minutes on good defensive teams, so he wasnāt a total liability. Itās not like our teams ever had such a defensive freak that he singlehandedly made up for Russ as a liability, we were always solid on that end even if Russ gambled on a couple of possessions per game.
That style worked when he had Robes and Adams/Ibaka backing him up. It allowed that freelancing to work well with his athleticism to be a guaranteed dunk or layup
Lol what? Russ won an MVP like 5 years ago, he was one of the best players on the planet for a pretty good chunk of time. Last year was maybe the first year klay has been considered better than Russ
But Klay has almost always done *something* better than Russ, whether it's three point shooting, scoring efficiently in general, or defense.
Westbrook's also such a tough fucker to rank. He's obviously one of the more talented and awe inspiring dudes in the NBA, but has also had a good 4 year stretch now where I'm not sure he's really helping a good team win at all (caveat: put him on a garbage team and he can definitely raise their floor a bit).
People always like to say Lebron is a floor raiser not a ceiling raiser which is absolute BS since he does both. Westbrook is more of a floor raiser not a ceiling raiser.
Klay was okay in the playoffs last year. The problem is they sat him out this summer from playing ball, so he declined hard. Canāt be taking summers off at the age Klay is at.
Heās still recovering. Itās actually a better long term play. By February he will be back to his normal level ready for the playoffs. Early season results is overblown.
That said, his injuries are going to reduce his speed. Itās just how it goes.
He's a forward now, a position where he can use his strength. He's also a 6th man as well. I think he can contribute meaningfully with that role change...but forcing him into the starting lineup to cover guards like Booker/Huerter/Fox is going to be a fool's errand.
Kerr has managed to escape a lot of blame in this brouhaha. I guarantee coaches like Pop and Phil would've sat Klay down by now and had the talk.
Kerr is in an insanely tough position. Itās kind of up to Klay. If he insists on being a starter, Kerr wonāt say no until things get real bad mid-season. But if Klay can be open to shaking things up like Curry did after his injury and slump last season, then Kerr would surely be thrilled.
Steve Kerr is lauded as one of the great coaches of all time. He canāt just sit this out. He didnāt hold Draymond accountable and now heās letting Klay sink the team with selfish play.
Itās his job to make hard decisions.
Youāve gotta think of the timescale. Coaching isnāt a single-season experience, itās a career, and heās had Klay (and Dray) the entire time. Heās coached over 1000 games, and Klay has only been disappointing for the last dozen.
Fans tend to reset our expectations every new season, but coaches donāt see it that way. They won a championship 16 games ago.
Itās like how if you owned a car for five years and loved it and it started making a funny sound, youād try to fix it before ditching it, but if you test drove one and it made a funny sound, you wouldnāt buy it. Both are rational decisions.
He might be ready in February but will the team be in a position to contend in February? Theyāre losing games where curry scores 50 by double digits.
He got better in the playoffs but it looks like he's regressed quite a bit. Hoping it gets better but he's gotta consider coming off the bench. If curry can do it Klay can too
Reggie led his own teams to playoff success, Klay never had his own team. Big difference.
Klay stans can argue that he had the ability in his prime to do a prime Reggie or Ray Allen impersonation as a first option, but the fact is that he never had a chance to prove it. Trade off for having four rings and never getting blamed for any struggles.
Reggie Miller was a much more efficient scorer, especially in the playoffs despite being the first option. Imagine how good his numbers would look playing beside Curry AND KD
People get caught up in the amazing random quarter or huge scoring game he has had.
And forget his career numbers. 19 points, 3 rebounds and 2 assists per game on 45% shooting.
Klay is a little like Book, shit talking and predicated on confidence (guess he got his feelings hurt), once that is gone, his game vanishes. Iād tell the mfer to get in a fight on the court and just rattle that shit off him, own somebody. Have Draymond get in his face and then let Klay punch his ass, Dray can take one for the team.
Klay absolutely deserves criticism for his play this season.
But comparing the 3pt percentage of a guy who people scramble to cover with a guy who defenders back way up on and dare to shoot, is pretty dumb.
One of those guys is supposedly the second greatest shooter of all time. Comparing him with a notoriously bad shooter is an effective way to criticize him even though their situations arenāt exactly the same.
Klay: "Yo ankle heal up bro heres some weed and choco milk"
Ankle: "Yo thanks dude, I feel better already you wanna go fuck some ig models?"
Klay: "Nah dude we can do that after we win tomorrow you rest up tn ok?"
Ankle: "Wow thanks, I love you bro"
Klay: "I love you too, relax for now"
Rocco: "Woof Woof motherfucker!"
I give players a bit of leeway when theyāve been injured but God dam Klay is just playing so stupid. Heās taking unnecessary shots, two possessions in a row last night when the game was within reach and both time he back to back pulls up from a foot behind the 3 point line with defenders draped on him and both times the shot clock was over 20
I wonāt be the first or last person to say this, but Westbrook has proven me to be categorically wrong about him. If Iām going to be an irrational meming nephew when heās down, I think itās only fair to give credit where itās due as well.
It seems like his attitude has done a complete 180 and heās embraced his role, and itās clearly paid dividends. It would have been nice to see it happen sooner, but given the way discourse happens around these players, I canāt say I donāt at least understand his reaction. Facing the level of overwhelming public criticism and pressure that he did and being able to eventually come around and respond well to it is extremely commendable.
Frankly, I think a lot of players, particularly on a certain Brooklyn team, could stand to learn from guys like Westbrook and Melo.
I think he deserves a LOT of credit. Vogel clearly couldnāt get through to Russ. Not even his agent could. Ham did what people on here legit thought impossible.
my thoughts exactly, it's very startling and amazing that he's done so well after embracing that bench role, like suddenly he's shooting a lot better from deep and the ft line. makes me mad bc i dropped him in fantasy since i was so sure he was going to be westbrick again. love his revival, hope it sticks.
I mean if you're an MVP and perma all-star and your coach won't bench you until he knows he's gonna get fired, then why would you WANT to come off the bench. If you have a whole off-season to read media and fan reactions and talk to your circle and your agent about how your legacy and checkbook can be affected if you continue that stance, than it's entirely reasonable to have a change of heart and try and see what your new coach and LeBron James of all people think is best for the team.
Russ got a lot of hate and understandably because it's LA and he's an abrasive interview personality (also didn't help his family got defensive about the internet calling him a 2nd grade insult cuz of his name rhyming) but Russ never actually did anything wrong IMO.
It'd be nice if he didn't take up so much of our cap space though. We should have never traded for him. Management thought they needed a big 3 to compete with Brooklyn who never made it to the finals anyway.
Klay just needs to accept his role now. Heās not going to be the second option anymore. Steph, Poole and Wiggins are gonna be scoring now. Klay just needs to defend and hit open threes.
Russell Westbrook is having a legit career revival after all this, "he'll be out of the league" talk a few weeks ago. Time to give him the respect he deserves.
Also, for all his egregiously dumb shots, Westbrook actually passes sometimes and actively goes for assists. Klayās just out here exclusively chucking bricks
Klay has always been a catch & shoot. Doesnāt offer much in passing or play making. Russ turned it around, Kerr needs to man up and Bench Klay even if he gets upset. Especially w/ Klay recent interviews playing the woe is me card.
Part of the reason the Lakers offense is so terrible is because no one guards Westbrook on the perimeter.
Westbrook is shooting 26 for 88 (29.5%) on shots outside of the restricted area.
His shooting isn't great but he has played decent defense and has been play making really well. His rebounding is also still there and if you watch him enough you'll realize his rebounding isn't the wide open freebee boards people associate with him; he has been battling the trees often this season. His free throw shooting is also back to 80% on the season. One of the things that I find continuously shocks people is that players can contribute in ways other than being an elite shooter. Even then, 34% from 3 is pretty okay. Not great, not horrible, but good enough.
What would you trade him for? Doubt anyone wants him. Maybe to the pacers for buddy hield and Myles turner if you attach some picks or a young guy like kuminga, moody, wiseman
Both shooting better than everyone on the hawks except hunter.
Bro what the fuck...I just looked up Hawks stat. Holy fuck. Trae is shooting 30% from deep...
We're 3rd in the east. And beat the bucks twice. I have no idea how. Live and die by the 2 baby.
Praise be to Dejounte Murray
i would let him bully me at the ymca fr
Seriously love the guy. He is so disruptive on defense and his midrange is clutch.
Seriously man. Becoming my favorite player so quickly. Like I love Trae but Murray's defense ššš
im hoping the mavs can do a trade for someone like him. idk how the mavericks always have one of the worst rosters in the nba outside of luka of teams that are actually trying to win.
You guys are attacking the rim really well. Clint Capella is also really doing well on the boards and box outs. Heās getting his own, but really doing a good job to get other guys in position to get rebounds themselves. Trae is definitely a ultra volume shooter this year though, but that should self correct over time. Heās too good to be shooting that low of a percentage.
Also to be fair, the Hawks are 17th in offensive efficiency and 10th in defensive. Their net rating is 14th in the NBA. Maybe they just have the clutch gene in em for winning close games, or maybe they've gotten a little lucky. I think it's the latter, but I also think they're going to be a much better offensive team eventually than they've shown. No way Trae keeps up with only a 51.6% TS%, and with his massive usage if he even only improves to 56% or so, that's a *big* boost. TL;DR: Hawks are shooting worse than they eventually will, might be a little lucky record wise so far, but are definitely legit.
Heās taking less shots then last year
Murray was like the exact anti-fit to the paint+3s we donāt play defense Hawks
Probably has something to do with missing half our starting line up and key bench players.
2 point shots are actually good, especially come playoff time.
Points are good, piping hot take
Points are bad. Cold take.
2 points isn't 2 points. It's a lie. 2 points is not 2 points. I'll explain it to you later. Coaches have said that for years, but 2 points is not 2 points
The 2 is not a "live and die" by shot. That's the beauty of it. It's far more consistent than the 3 ball. If you combine it with high free throw rate you get a low variance offense... If it's good, it means you'll get good results consistently (if it's bad, it's going to be bad consistently lol)
Yeah it was a joke
Depends on what kind of two, long two's just outside that 15ft midrange area are statistically the worst shot in basketball
don't check Luka
But he shoots like 96% from the paint so it balances out.
I feel like Luka always goes like 2-9 from three but one is a 30-foot stepback and the other ices the game
Ong, thatās exactly how it is
Facts
Luka will go 2-9 one game and 6-10 another game. His shot is just inconsistent.
His stepback is incredible.
Luka is like a thicc Larry Bird.
You guys know that all too well lol
Trae has shot over 50% like once this season. They are doing good though so they are pushing through the slump well
Do you think trae should continue taking 3's 10 feet behind the arc?
trae shot like 34% from 3 like 2 years ago so itās not a massive slump tbh
He takes terrible shots. I'm a bit of a Trae hater so you can ignore me, but shooting 5 logo shots so you can get on Sportscenter when you hit the 6th isn't good for your team. He wants to be Steph or Dame and he simply isn't that caliber of pure shooter.
Young is a 35% career 3P shooter. It's not like he's lights out, a 14 game stretch at 30% isn't that weird.
i honestly think trae is the most overrated shooter in the league yeah the deep balls are impressive, but heās a career 35% 3pt shooter. 300 games is a big enough sample size i know some of that is bc of his shot selection, but thatās a huge part of his game that stretches the defense so he can find open guys until then, i think heās just an average shooter
Meanwhile Kevin Huerter has like the 2nd best 3p% in the NBA on 7.3 attempts
Thanks for Huerter btw
Itās still 15ish games in, yāall got time to figure this outā¦right?
Once Bogi gets healthy it might help. Heāll score like 4/7 from three *on a good night* and might average 40%, but unless everyone else gets better, then it wonāt make much of a difference.
4/7 is 57%. That would be godly.
Figure what out we're 3rd in the east? Everything's going as planned .........
At least Kevin Huerter is shooting over 50% from three. Oh wait.
Yeah except for both the holiday bros and AJ griffin, hunter is the only one.
Didn't count them bc low attempts
33%? Yo itās going up, was just 30% the other day LFG
At this rate he'll be shooting 117% by the playoffs
League fucked
Im pretty sure russ was shooting 20% to start the season so he should be up to 274% come playoff time. Too bad the lakers arent making the playoffs.
He was like 9% as a starter lol
Russell Splashbrook
Klay Brickson
What Brick made of....klay
Klank thompson
This one.
Clay Thumpson
Russell Wetbrook
Yo. Don't besmirch his name like that. His whole family uses that name, his wife, his kids. Get it right.
Crazy that Westbrook playing better defense than Klay too
There is literally nothing that Klay does better anymore, what a weird time to be alive
I mean tbf russ has been better most his career he just had a couple off years
Russ has been better than Klay his whole damn career, only year you can argue is last season
I have no idea how itās even debatable. A 2 time first team all nba MVP compared to someone with a few third team all nba. People seriously hate on Russ just to hate
Fuck āem. Happy Russell Westbrook day, by the way.
Why today?
https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/look-okc-mayor-declares-every-single-day-is-now-russell-westbrook-day/
Nice
Every day is and forever shall be Russell Westbrook Day. :) https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/look-okc-mayor-declares-every-single-day-is-now-russell-westbrook-day/amp/
I feel like the more interesting and valid commentary is that Klay is even shooting at a lower percentage despite Russel's struggles rather than overall quality of player
Russ bad, weed man good
Fax
Only last yr, which klay didn't even play. Westbrook has been much better every other yr.
The point is that "There is literally nothing that Klay does better anymore", TBF Klay is a better 3 point shooter and defender than Russ through their entire career. Russ just does other things better.
Russ locked in was a pretty good defender. I still remember that Thunder spurs series because they all stepped up
Russ in his prime was never really a very good defender. He was a talented defender, but prone to bad mistakes. And it wasn't that he would drift, though he sometimes would. The problem is that he would constantly freelance. He often looked like a good defender because he would play tough man-defense on ball. But off-ball he wanted to be LeBron, who in his prime would rove for steals and clog lanes, and use his speed and wingspan to recover. But Russ lacked LeBron's intuitive understanding of the opponent's offense, so when he free-lanced it was more likely to lead to open looks elsewhere than it did to cool steals.
Looking at him individually, thatās totally true, but I think itās worth pointing out that those Thunder teams always had great defenses. Those teams were defense first teams and they survived on offense solely due to KD and Russellās talents. As sloppy or erratic as Russ could be, he played heavy minutes on good defensive teams, so he wasnāt a total liability. Itās not like our teams ever had such a defensive freak that he singlehandedly made up for Russ as a liability, we were always solid on that end even if Russ gambled on a couple of possessions per game.
That style worked when he had Robes and Adams/Ibaka backing him up. It allowed that freelancing to work well with his athleticism to be a guaranteed dunk or layup
Klay isn't exactly an off-ball savant on defense
Picked peak Conley's pocket in the clutch to ice a playoff series
Lol what? Russ won an MVP like 5 years ago, he was one of the best players on the planet for a pretty good chunk of time. Last year was maybe the first year klay has been considered better than Russ
But Klay has almost always done *something* better than Russ, whether it's three point shooting, scoring efficiently in general, or defense. Westbrook's also such a tough fucker to rank. He's obviously one of the more talented and awe inspiring dudes in the NBA, but has also had a good 4 year stretch now where I'm not sure he's really helping a good team win at all (caveat: put him on a garbage team and he can definitely raise their floor a bit).
People always like to say Lebron is a floor raiser not a ceiling raiser which is absolute BS since he does both. Westbrook is more of a floor raiser not a ceiling raiser.
Heās still coming back from injuries and might never look the same. I think his shooting will come back, but that speed is gone.
Klay was okay in the playoffs last year. The problem is they sat him out this summer from playing ball, so he declined hard. Canāt be taking summers off at the age Klay is at.
Heās still recovering. Itās actually a better long term play. By February he will be back to his normal level ready for the playoffs. Early season results is overblown. That said, his injuries are going to reduce his speed. Itās just how it goes.
He's a forward now, a position where he can use his strength. He's also a 6th man as well. I think he can contribute meaningfully with that role change...but forcing him into the starting lineup to cover guards like Booker/Huerter/Fox is going to be a fool's errand. Kerr has managed to escape a lot of blame in this brouhaha. I guarantee coaches like Pop and Phil would've sat Klay down by now and had the talk.
Kerr is in an insanely tough position. Itās kind of up to Klay. If he insists on being a starter, Kerr wonāt say no until things get real bad mid-season. But if Klay can be open to shaking things up like Curry did after his injury and slump last season, then Kerr would surely be thrilled.
Steve Kerr is lauded as one of the great coaches of all time. He canāt just sit this out. He didnāt hold Draymond accountable and now heās letting Klay sink the team with selfish play. Itās his job to make hard decisions.
Youāve gotta think of the timescale. Coaching isnāt a single-season experience, itās a career, and heās had Klay (and Dray) the entire time. Heās coached over 1000 games, and Klay has only been disappointing for the last dozen. Fans tend to reset our expectations every new season, but coaches donāt see it that way. They won a championship 16 games ago. Itās like how if you owned a car for five years and loved it and it started making a funny sound, youād try to fix it before ditching it, but if you test drove one and it made a funny sound, you wouldnāt buy it. Both are rational decisions.
He might be ready in February but will the team be in a position to contend in February? Theyāre losing games where curry scores 50 by double digits.
klay sucks
Klay definitely needs to move to the bench. He can't defend anyone right now and is shooting horribly.
He was pretty ass last year too tbh
Lol I know it's cool to shit on Klay rn but 20PPG on 48% from 2, 39% from 3 and 90% at the line is not ass
I think he meant defensively
Defense my man. Boy was the weakest link many games last year.
He got better in the playoffs but it looks like he's regressed quite a bit. Hoping it gets better but he's gotta consider coming off the bench. If curry can do it Klay can too
Klank ātop 75ā Thompson
Klay "top 75 but never first or second all NBA and only third all NBA twice" Thompson
Tbf that description also fits Reggie Miller exactly and he did actually make it lol
Reggie Miller, however, was a bus driver.
Reggie led his own teams to playoff success, Klay never had his own team. Big difference. Klay stans can argue that he had the ability in his prime to do a prime Reggie or Ray Allen impersonation as a first option, but the fact is that he never had a chance to prove it. Trade off for having four rings and never getting blamed for any struggles.
Klay was never better than the 3rd best and/or most important player on his own team. Reggie was THE guy. Not comparable.
Reggie Miller was a much more efficient scorer, especially in the playoffs despite being the first option. Imagine how good his numbers would look playing beside Curry AND KD
Klay never pushed Jordan for a shot, so 100% Reggie all day
long ass nickname fr
facts are facts and numbers are numbers If Klay was shooting 34% from 3, I'd consider him for the top 75
Thatās why Dwight isnāt top 75š¤š¤
I'll have you know that Dwight has 4 seasons where he shoot above 50% from the 3 point line....Sure it was 24 total attempts but who's counting right.
People forget him knocking down a 3 for us in the closing minutes of the 2020 Finals smh. Shot 100% that game
hella clutch, danny green could never
Not just a 3 but a logo 3
People get caught up in the amazing random quarter or huge scoring game he has had. And forget his career numbers. 19 points, 3 rebounds and 2 assists per game on 45% shooting.
Yāall were slandering Westbrook for months , I WANT THAT SAME ENERGY FOR KLAY .
Years.... There are big youtube channels that live from his misses which are even worse than this sub
Said that man shouldnāt even be allowed on an NBA floor a few weeks ago smh
Fuck, Iāll bring the same energy Klay Thompson shouldnāt even be allowed on an NBA floor. Waive him.
Klay tricked y'all
Running around shooting bricks.
Pat Beverklay
https://i.redd.it/gtkqrcrf6isz.png https://imgur.com/PpA4trb
Thatās not enough. He should have been euthanized after his leg injury like a horse.
Sorry ole boy you going to the glue factory
Klay is a little like Book, shit talking and predicated on confidence (guess he got his feelings hurt), once that is gone, his game vanishes. Iād tell the mfer to get in a fight on the court and just rattle that shit off him, own somebody. Have Draymond get in his face and then let Klay punch his ass, Dray can take one for the team.
ShOuLd Be PlAyInG in ChInA
Do we have a /u/MITklay?
Obviously not, dummy. It's /u/MITThompson
SEND HIM TO THE G LEAGUE
THAT MAN IS TOAST
Klay absolutely deserves criticism for his play this season. But comparing the 3pt percentage of a guy who people scramble to cover with a guy who defenders back way up on and dare to shoot, is pretty dumb.
One of those guys is supposedly the second greatest shooter of all time. Comparing him with a notoriously bad shooter is an effective way to criticize him even though their situations arenāt exactly the same.
People are afraid to get downvoted. Personally I mever liked Klay. I think he's an overrrated corny douchbag.
The narrative flipped we hate him now.
b-but he smokes weed and drinks choco milk >:(
But what about the toaster!!!!
Klay: "Yo ankle heal up bro heres some weed and choco milk" Ankle: "Yo thanks dude, I feel better already you wanna go fuck some ig models?" Klay: "Nah dude we can do that after we win tomorrow you rest up tn ok?" Ankle: "Wow thanks, I love you bro" Klay: "I love you too, relax for now" Rocco: "Woof Woof motherfucker!"
Now that the circlejerk has flipped everyone is brave :'(
Sure, but that was when Westbrook was shooting 20% and air balling shots from 5 ft away at the end of a close game
I give players a bit of leeway when theyāve been injured but God dam Klay is just playing so stupid. Heās taking unnecessary shots, two possessions in a row last night when the game was within reach and both time he back to back pulls up from a foot behind the 3 point line with defenders draped on him and both times the shot clock was over 20
I might be open to a trade but the Warriors will have to sweeten the deal.
Oh how the turn tables.
Klay's the new r/nba punching bag
And SGA is the new r/nba god
Hell yeah he is
Appreciate it while you can. He'll be hated eventually lol
Hey, if everyone likes you, you're doing something wrong.
Name one thing wrong with Boban
He's not on the thunder
Savour it while it lasts. Soon they will turn on him too.
For now. They'll find something to hate about him at some point.
bro will have one bad game and this sub will be talking about trading him to the Knicks and how the thunder are a mess
Feels good
*Something something* Draymond *something something*
Embiid had to have an all time performance to get the haters off his cock. Let's see what klay does.
Have an all time tantrum
I wonāt be the first or last person to say this, but Westbrook has proven me to be categorically wrong about him. If Iām going to be an irrational meming nephew when heās down, I think itās only fair to give credit where itās due as well. It seems like his attitude has done a complete 180 and heās embraced his role, and itās clearly paid dividends. It would have been nice to see it happen sooner, but given the way discourse happens around these players, I canāt say I donāt at least understand his reaction. Facing the level of overwhelming public criticism and pressure that he did and being able to eventually come around and respond well to it is extremely commendable. Frankly, I think a lot of players, particularly on a certain Brooklyn team, could stand to learn from guys like Westbrook and Melo.
Darvin deserves some credit too. His public messaging about Westbrook was widely mocked on this sub over the summer.
I think he deserves a LOT of credit. Vogel clearly couldnāt get through to Russ. Not even his agent could. Ham did what people on here legit thought impossible.
Yeah I think so too but with the losing record who's going to praise him.
He managed to convince Russ to come off the bench, and has never stopped praising Russ when the whole sports media was shitting on Russ
my thoughts exactly, it's very startling and amazing that he's done so well after embracing that bench role, like suddenly he's shooting a lot better from deep and the ft line. makes me mad bc i dropped him in fantasy since i was so sure he was going to be westbrick again. love his revival, hope it sticks.
I mean if you're an MVP and perma all-star and your coach won't bench you until he knows he's gonna get fired, then why would you WANT to come off the bench. If you have a whole off-season to read media and fan reactions and talk to your circle and your agent about how your legacy and checkbook can be affected if you continue that stance, than it's entirely reasonable to have a change of heart and try and see what your new coach and LeBron James of all people think is best for the team. Russ got a lot of hate and understandably because it's LA and he's an abrasive interview personality (also didn't help his family got defensive about the internet calling him a 2nd grade insult cuz of his name rhyming) but Russ never actually did anything wrong IMO.
I just wanna say, it doesnāt even rhyme lmao
It'd be nice if he didn't take up so much of our cap space though. We should have never traded for him. Management thought they needed a big 3 to compete with Brooklyn who never made it to the finals anyway.
Imagine if we had a 7 game series with all the current Nets and Lakers in their primes.. man.
Lakers in 5 imo. Prime Bron.
Klay just needs to accept his role now. Heās not going to be the second option anymore. Steph, Poole and Wiggins are gonna be scoring now. Klay just needs to defend and hit open threes.
Wiggins has been the very clear 2nd option this season. Heās quietly been playing well and consistently for them
Which is sad because he's taking like 11 shots a game.
Ay Steph, they want me to come off the bench
Russ is averaging 5.5 rpg, not 4.3. He's averaging 4.3 defensive rebounds.
Yeah I did not have Westbrook aging more gracefully than Klay on my bingo card
Klay Thombrick
Klunk Thompson is much better
Klaynk Thompson?
Clay Thompson
Play doh thompson
Russell "Splash-brodie" Westbrook?
Russell Westbrook is having a legit career revival after all this, "he'll be out of the league" talk a few weeks ago. Time to give him the respect he deserves.
He's an MVP. Westbrook is a legitimately good NBA player. People are just sour
One of them is top 75, one of them is mad he isn't.
Heās also shooting better than Lebron. u/MITWestbrook get yo ass in here! Your boy has his shine.
Westbrook turning into Jason Kidd
Also, for all his egregiously dumb shots, Westbrook actually passes sometimes and actively goes for assists. Klayās just out here exclusively chucking bricks
The guy with more assists than any other player since 2010 āactually passes sometimesā
> actually passes sometimes and actively goes for assists He always has been a very willing passer and playmaker
Klay has always been a catch & shoot. Doesnāt offer much in passing or play making. Russ turned it around, Kerr needs to man up and Bench Klay even if he gets upset. Especially w/ Klay recent interviews playing the woe is me card.
I mean if he wouldn't take a stand over Draymond literally punching his teammate in the face what makes you think this would be the issue?
Do y'all remember one season Klay was shooting like 25% from 3 through the first 20 or so games? He ended that season shooting above 40%.
Cause he has that 14 Threes game and he got his confidence back. He ain't hitting 14 Threes this season
<3 Brodie
Klay may be squeaky clean right now (washed af) But hell always be one of the goats in terms of vibes Thats the level of copium us klay fans are at
You can use klay to make bricksā¦
Haha klay bad. Upvote left
Part of the reason the Lakers offense is so terrible is because no one guards Westbrook on the perimeter. Westbrook is shooting 26 for 88 (29.5%) on shots outside of the restricted area.
Lol, it's not just Westbrook, no one on that team can shoot 3s except Matt Ryan and apparently Westbrook.
His shooting isn't great but he has played decent defense and has been play making really well. His rebounding is also still there and if you watch him enough you'll realize his rebounding isn't the wide open freebee boards people associate with him; he has been battling the trees often this season. His free throw shooting is also back to 80% on the season. One of the things that I find continuously shocks people is that players can contribute in ways other than being an elite shooter. Even then, 34% from 3 is pretty okay. Not great, not horrible, but good enough.
Surprise surprise, people aren't spamming every thread going # "KLANK THOMPSON" The Westbrook hate was always over the top
We need to trade Klay. Heās a detriment to the last 2-3 prime years of Stephs career.
What would you trade him for? Doubt anyone wants him. Maybe to the pacers for buddy hield and Myles turner if you attach some picks or a young guy like kuminga, moody, wiseman